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ATLANTA RADIO IS EMBARASSING

Radio companies are now in a pissing match between CC and Cumulus. At this point as far as I am concerned they are not serving the public interest anymore. This could be grounds for a petition to the FCC because they are not serving the public interest, in my opinion they would be providing various formats, yet they have all morphed in to the same format.
 
BRENT said:
This could be grounds for a petition to the FCC because they are not serving the public interest, in my opinion they would be providing various formats, yet they have all morphed in to the same format.

FYI The FCC doesn't get involved in program formats, and doesn't see the playing of music as serving the public interest.

In addition, TTBOMK, the FCC has never fined or threatened a radio station because it wasn't playing a certain kind of music. Or, for that matter, because, in someone's opinion, they weren't "serving the public interest," whatever that means.
 
Brent,

The FCC doesn't give two shits about public interest. If they did, the Telecom Act would have disappeared faster than Monica did from the White House after the Blue dress debacle. Or other shenanigans like 800MHz rebanding would have been laughed off the table instead of spending billions to move and replace perfectly functional mission critical 800MHz radio systems like I use so Sprint can have their way. But the bottom line is the FCC serves THEIR constituents, which happen to be the following, in no particular order:

The Telecommunications/Wireless Industry (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, etc)
The broadcast conglomerates (Clear Channel, Cumulus, Cox, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc)
The consumer electronics manufacturers and associated industries

They don't serve YOU or I, the citizen. So go ahead, write your email/letter and entertain some gov't mule. That's about the only effect it will have.
 
Cumulus and CC have done nothing but pi$$ off the listeners with their games and squabbling amongst each other acting like a couple of spoiled brats.

I'm sorry but Cumulus has done nothing but ruin all the stations they have gotten their hands on. Q100 was a great station when they were owned by Susquehana then they took it over and ever since then I haven't been able to listen to them. They truly did play all the hits back then. Cumulus turned AGH into a joke before they blew it up and all of the Cumulus stations across the country are crap.

CC in Atlanta isn't much better and that I don't understand when they have so many stations that perform really well in other parts of the country.

We can thank the deregulation of 1996 for this mess and I think we as listeners would be better off if it had never happened.
 
IT_Guru said:
We can thank the deregulation of 1996 for this mess and I think we as listeners would be better off if it had never happened.

Has absolutely nothing to do with it. If these companies didn't own these stations, you'd have other owners doing the exact same thing.
 
TheBigA said:
IT_Guru said:
We can thank the deregulation of 1996 for this mess and I think we as listeners would be better off if it had never happened.

Has absolutely nothing to do with it. If these companies didn't own these stations, you'd have other owners doing the exact same thing.

It has everything to do with it. you can't tell me with a straight face that conglomeration in any industry is a win-win for consumers.

We have less choice, less quality when only a handful of players own the courts.

but who cares, radio is killing itself anyway.
 
TheBigA said:
IT_Guru said:
We can thank the deregulation of 1996 for this mess and I think we as listeners would be better off if it had never happened.

Has absolutely nothing to do with it. If these companies didn't own these stations, you'd have other owners doing the exact same thing.

That's total 100% BS. Other owners would be giving us a choice besides the same music on every station. Think back on what all was offered on Atlanta radio back before 1996.
 
IT_Guru said:
That's total 100% BS. Other owners would be giving us a choice besides the same music on every station. Think back on what all was offered on Atlanta radio back before 1996.

Doesn't matter. Think back on the media marketplace before 1996. A lot has changed.

Back in the 60s, every station wanted to play the most Beatles. It's the same game. Stations play the same music because that's what gets the listeners. More owners mean more stations playing the same music. That's how it's always been. The only way to eliminate it is to have all stations owned by one company, the way Sirius owns all of satellite. No duplication there.
 
TheBigA said:
IT_Guru said:
We can thank the deregulation of 1996 for this mess and I think we as listeners would be better off if it had never happened.

Has absolutely nothing to do with it. If these companies didn't own these stations, you'd have other owners doing the exact same thing.
Again, go back to the early-mid 1980s when we had six stations fighting over AC, each with their own owner:

94.1 94Q (Jefferson-Pilot)
94.9 Peach (Meredith)
97.1 Fox 97 (Shamrock)
98.5 99FM/B98.5 (Cox)
99.7 Warm 100/99.7 (Susquehanna)
106.7 Lite 106 (Jacobs)

Yes, Peach was still the softest of the bunch and still playing BM overnights, and Fox was "soft rock from the 60s, 70s, and 80s" presaging their "good times and eight oldies" format, but I would say they were more similar than Q100, Q100 20, Star, Power, and Wild are.

And, yes, eventually this logjam would shake out with only Peach, 94Q/Star, and B remaining in the AC format at the end of the decade (Fox going oldies, Warm 100 becoming Power 99 CHR, and Lite 106 becoming Y106 country).
 
jabba17 said:
TheBigA said:
IT_Guru said:
We can thank the deregulation of 1996 for this mess and I think we as listeners would be better off if it had never happened.

Has absolutely nothing to do with it. If these companies didn't own these stations, you'd have other owners doing the exact same thing.
Again, go back to the early-mid 1980s when we had six stations fighting over AC, each with their own owner:

94.1 94Q (Jefferson-Pilot)
94.9 Peach (Meredith)
97.1 Fox 97 (Shamrock)
98.5 99FM/B98.5 (Cox)
99.7 Warm 100/99.7 (Susquehanna)
106.7 Lite 106 (Jacobs)

Yes, Peach was still the softest of the bunch and still playing BM overnights, and Fox was "soft rock from the 60s, 70s, and 80s" presaging their "good times and eight oldies" format, but I would say they were more similar than Q100, Q100 20, Star, Power, and Wild are.

And, yes, eventually this logjam would shake out with only Peach, 94Q/Star, and B remaining in the AC format at the end of the decade (Fox going oldies, Warm 100 becoming Power 99 CHR, and Lite 106 becoming Y106 country).


The music was just better back then (PERIOD).....
 
TheBigA said:
Maybe, but you were also younger. People tend to think the music of their generation is the best.

You got that right! I am really bummed out today. I tuned around and NO ONE is playing "San Antonio Rose" by Bob Wills.
 
Goat Rodeo Cowboy said:
TheBigA said:
Maybe, but you were also younger. People tend to think the music of their generation is the best.

You got that right! I am really bummed out today. I tuned around and NO ONE is playing "San Antonio Rose" by Bob Wills.

Or Red Sovine. What's up with that?
 
Well I, for one, completely miss the days where everything was all on one station and you could hear "9 to 5" sandwiched "Dirty Deeds (Done Dirt Cheap)" and "Super Freak"

:::end sarcasm:::
 
agentUrge said:
Well I, for one, completely miss the days where everything was all on one station and you could hear "9 to 5" sandwiched "Dirty Deeds (Done Dirt Cheap)" and "Super Freak"

:::end sarcasm:::

I don't know why but I hit the XM button in my car this morning and noticed they are giving a free preview of their channels so screw Atlanta radio. When the free preview is over ill be resubscribing. Been enjoying the decades channels, 1st wave, BPM etc.
 
IT_Guru said:
agentUrge said:
Well I, for one, completely miss the days where everything was all on one station and you could hear "9 to 5" sandwiched "Dirty Deeds (Done Dirt Cheap)" and "Super Freak"

:::end sarcasm:::

I don't know why but I hit the XM button in my car this morning and noticed they are giving a free preview of their channels so screw Atlanta radio. When the free preview is over ill be resubscribing. Been enjoying the decades channels, 1st wave, BPM etc.
As you might surmise, some of my favorite XM channels are First Wave, Hair Nation, and Boneyard, plus 70s on 7 and 80s on 8.
 
TheBigA said:
IT_Guru said:
That's total 100% BS. Other owners would be giving us a choice besides the same music on every station. Think back on what all was offered on Atlanta radio back before 1996.

Doesn't matter. Think back on the media marketplace before 1996. A lot has changed.

Back in the 60s, every station wanted to play the most Beatles. It's the same game. Stations play the same music because that's what gets the listeners. More owners mean more stations playing the same music. That's how it's always been. The only way to eliminate it is to have all stations owned by one company, the way Sirius owns all of satellite. No duplication there.

A lot of that has to do with most advertising being targeted to the same audiences, 18-49 and 25-54.
 
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