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Radio people--what we have here with atlantachristmas is what we have run into for our entire careers. He or she is not one of us. He or she however IS a listener who has a passion for our business. Let's cut some slack to atlantachristmas, OK?

This brings up a point that has always bothered me about boards like this one. Why can't we separate the listeners from the pros? I personally want to be in discussions with my peers. At the same time, I am very interested in what the listeners have to say. It's just that the two groups should not share the same frequency.
 
I just clicked that link and my computer went [EDIT] launching about 20 internet explorer windows!!

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>Why can't we separate the listeners from the pros? I personally want to be in
>discussions with my peers. At the same time, I am very interested in what the
>listeners have to say. It's just that the two groups should not share the same
>frequency.

An interesting take. If I may ask, why?
 
this may be shocking to you but I am definitely not a pro (I'm a passionate listener) and I beleive there should be a seperate place for the pros to discuss issues. So I agree 100 percent.
 
>I beleive there should be a seperate place for the pros to discuss issues.

Then I'm still missing something here. There are seperate boards on here for pretty much every aspect of the business, under the Radio Pros heading (Scroll waaaaaay down from the top 20)
I had assumed that was where the pros went to discuss things presumeably of interest to a narrow segment, like what transmitter had the nicest blinky lights on it, or which consultant was the best at motivating time and temp out of the pronouncers. Was I in error?
Help me out..,.
 
Where would you draw the line if you did segment the board? Full-timers on major stations, or part-time board ops on smaller ones? In my experience the former have vastly different views than the latter. Or how about people who understand how Arbitron really works, or those who don't? People who think playlists should be bigger vs. those who get why tight is right (see "how Arbitron really works", previous sentence)?

Frankly I'm not sure how you'd police it, nor do I think it's necessary. I've been in this business fulltime and non-stop since 1977, worked/programmed/sold in 4 top 10 markets--yet with all that, it's still fun to read or hear from people who are just passionate about radio.
 
I would recommend keeping the same format as right now, but maybe the member's name could be in blue if they are a listener and red if they are a pro? That way it would be easy to tell who the response or thread title is from.
 
CTNYRADIO said:
I would recommend keeping the same format as right now, but maybe the member's name could be in blue if they are a listener and red if they are a pro? That way it would be easy to tell who the response or thread title is from.

That definitely sounds fair to me. Good idea!
 
Ok, but then who gets to decide who's a pro and who isnt? What happens if someone is just a volunteer/college jock and someone has been in the business10 years? Who makes the decision, how do we verify this?

I am NOT against this in anyway, just raising some questions.
 
I fail to see where it makes any difference at all how one makes one's living, which was my original premise. A set of opinions is a set of opinions, pretty much regardless the source. One may decide what credence to grant them based on content. It appears to me that the only place they seem to matter is in ad hominem attacks, which have no place here anyway.
 
I'm reading a great deal of interesting suggestions and opinions on this thread. Thanks to all for letting us know what you're thinking about the site.

Paul Walker and ck dexter both raise a good point...How do we sort the professionals from the enthusiasts? We'd have to hire staff to do just that and then we'd have to set some sort criteria for doing so. It's not like we charge to use our site. Unfortunately, sorting out the two groups raises an endless number of questions.

Radio-Info was created to let people interested in radio have a place to discuss the medium. Our goal all along was not to discriminate between the two groups. Both are welcome here.

While someone who's never worked in the industry may not know as much about certain things, they definitely challenge a professional's preconceived notions about how the public perceives them. What's wrong with that?

With that said, a radio enthusiast has a wonderful opportunity to be educated about all the considerations within the industry. Professionals are in a unique position to do so. What's wrong with a discussion between the two groups?

Our boards are broken up enough to where professionals can go and delve into the nuts and bolts of the business. Thanks to DashRipRock (love the name, BTW) for providing a URL to that part of our site. The radio enthusiast doesn't largely travel those boards because of their specificity.

In the end, I think there's room for both groups. A little tolerance and understanding goes a long way on these boards.
 
I started this topic because it became obvious that atlantachristmas's comments were those of a listener. Someone that deserves to be heard.

However, some of the pros who come to this location to interact with their peers took an offensive approach to this listener's continued posts.

I just think it would be helpful if each board member were to identify him or her self as EITHER someone who make their living from working/performing in the business... or if they are a fan. I wouldn't ask anybody to make judgements. Simply let it be a box to click when they sign up.

Then have a very subtle check mark, color code or whatever icon would identify the individual to others responding--or ignoring--the thread.
 
You bring up a lot of good points MBE. I've chosen not to dive into the radio field (perhaps part time someday, if I'm lucky), but as a fan, I've learned a lot from the professionals and always love to hear their input and share their knowledge with those of us not in this field.
 
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