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truthsayer

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Want to hear excellence in voice tracking listen to Sirius XM 7. Brother JJWalker 6pm - midnight. It most likely does not take him two hours to do but listen to his delivery. Why it's even better than my sometimes poor grammeror lack of all the facts.

Let's see any of you do some of that boogie radio jive talking delivery. He is doing trivia while voice tracking and hits every post. He comes back in 15 or 20 and answers his trivia. No phone bit just a talent in keeping you listening.

Dan Gallo would even be amazed. I do not ever recall meeting or speaking to him but Dan sounds like a fun DJ.
Does anyone on this board know Dan Gallo?
 
Were you sober when you typed this? Trying to figure out if you're for real or if this is satire.
 
I know Gallo. He's been a bud of mine since I arrived in Houston. He was one of the first big supporters of mine, and the person probably most instrumental in my moving from KIKK to KILT. When my contract expired at KIKK, and I knew I was not going to do the 'Young Country' thing, I had confided in Gallo and a few others that I had accepted the PD/Morning show job in San Antonio. Hours later Debbie Brazier was offering me the job at KILT. I never asked, but I expected that Gallo, RB and a few others went to bat to get me the gig and stay in Houston. I have been here 14 years. Gallo is a big reason why.

JJ Walker is awesome. You can also hear him on Sirius 20. He uses the name Spyder Harrison there. Mo Bounce who is the incredibly talented night guy at Hot 95.7 told me that it was JJ that gave him his first big break.
 
Thanks brotha!!  Yea, Spyder (AKA JJ Walker) is my mentor.  I still talk to him weekly.  When I was 17 and an intern at FLZ in Tampa...he was doing late nights and I was his intern.  That dude is pure talent.  I've learned so much from that guy its unreal.  If you can dig them up, listen to airchecks from when he did nights at Z100 back in the day, or when he did nights at Eagle 106 in Philly...it will inspire you.  Whenever i need a "pick me up" I listen to airchecks of Spyder.

---
Mo' Bounce
HOT 95.7
 
jpcgonebig said:
Thanks brotha!! Yea, Spyder (AKA JJ Walker) is my mentor. I still talk to him weekly. When I was 17 and an intern at FLZ in Tampa...he was doing late nights and I was his intern. That dude is pure talent. I've learned so much from that guy its unreal. If you can dig them up, listen to airchecks from when he did nights at Z100 back in the day, or when he did nights at Eagle 106 in Philly...it will inspire you. Whenever i need a "pick me up" I listen to airchecks of Spyder.

---
Mo' Bounce
HOT 95.7

There isn't a bad jock on that channel, but Spyder/JJ is quickly becoming my favorite.
 
you sure are stuck on voice track. i guess you still havent figured out that hitting a post doesnt require talent when tracking.

and you guys that think listeners can figure it out are giving them too much credix. i remember tracking and everyone i knew thought i was at work when i wasnt. that seems to be the norm with other jocks, too.

or maybe im just that dang talented. ;)

tooner
 
fmtooner said:
you sure are stuck on voice track. i guess you still havent figured out that hitting a post doesnt require talent when tracking.

and you guys that think listeners can figure it out are giving them too much credix. i remember tracking and everyone i knew thought i was at work when i wasnt. that seems to be the norm with other jocks, too.

or maybe im just that dang talented. ;)

tooner

Okay, it's time for Michael V to hang me from the rafters...

...but if you put on a good show, does it matter if you stand in the studio for 4 hours and crack a mic live, or if you go knock it out in production (or from home)?

The key is doing a good, entertaining show. I don't listen to the radio for where it comes from. I listen to the radio for entertainment.

The problems I have with most stations in this town aren't that they're tracked (other than my fundamental belief that people should be paid a living wage in exchange for the station selling the fruits of their labor) it's that the powers that be have removed any semblance of entertainment and fun from the station.

So, yes, the Sirius/XM 70's channel is 24/7 pukers with corny jokes... but they keep the music moving (always on a ramp, the music never stops), they have something to say when they open the mic, and I can't sit in the car and recite the liner along with the jock because they always find a new way to say it even when they're saying the same thing.

Read the same liners the same way every hour and the only difference between you and wallpaper is paste.
 
I was feeling good when I wrote this since you asked.




I need a cigarette
 
truthsayer said:
Want to hear excellence in voice tracking
"Excellence in VT." You're killing me.
Yes, I know Gallo. Super nice to nobodies like me, which says volumes in the radio biz.
johndavis said:
Read (I altered it for you) liners (more altering) and the only difference between you and wallpaper is paste.
I love it. Huaaah! Lets tattoo that to somebody's head.
johndavis said:
Okay, it's time ...to hang me from the rafters...
naa... we'll just sit you in the corner & duck tape you to a stool for my rant. (btw, barge in the house and have a beer one night)

I'm reminded of a scene from my favorite movie, Real Genius. (V. Kilmer/1984?) The professor is out. His students sit politely listening to a rolling reel-to-reel recorder. A few frames later the same classroom. Instructor's reel to reel again rolling--- then you see all the seats filled with recording devices in lieu of students. Pretty much what's happening today?
If we're not gonna show up, they're not either. Yeah, we got all these numbers spinning shares of the pie, (terrestrially speaking) but I question the size of the pie.

I need to know: -if Pasadena is burning.
-what freeway is completely freakin closed for no good reason.
-what Brangelina is doing right now.
-if the Texans just traded for Reggie Bush.
-who's having a party in Waller County.

How are you going to give me tickets to see Lovin Spoonful? I've got this terrific winner's scream waiting for your VoxPro. Weeeowwwwwieeee! OhmyGodIcantbelieveitiveneverwonanything!

And if you're really up there live in your glass tower overlooking the city, rocking to the record you just selected by color-dot, and you dont tell me any of the above, then I can safely know that Pasadena is not burning.

If its 9pm, and you went on mic when the traffic department girls (who are hard-working & wonderful) were still at work, you cant tell me whats happening now. You cant know the mood of the city, or in my case, the country. You dont have the feel, the vibe for the now, ...oh no, now I'm getting all artsy--- damn, The Change is happening to me. No one is immune... Run away everybody!

I'll admit I, the king of the phones, overdid the phoners, (You heard it here first.) but we've gotta have at least some human contact in there, and you know and I know the entertainment value of a good call. You're already sterilized by the corporate rules, and then you're further sterilized in what you can actually say in your VT, because you dont know whats going to be happening when your program airs.

Ethical employment practices and Death of Radio issues aside, it just doesnt work for me to voice-track radio any more than it works to VT Monday Night Football. Imagine. Down & distance--computer generated, random comments in, "Man, this crowd is really into it tonight." "Brett Favre is amazing." (My kids game does this!) 70's flashback: "We have a virtual plethora of human drama on display tonight." ---Yeah, you could have voice-tracked Howard Cosell.

You could voice-track a wedding reception. "We're celebrating tonight with Brad & Jennifer. Lets hear it for our bride and groom.... woooooooo."

Sara Palin, I admit, could have voice-tracked her debate with Joe Biden, and no one would have known.

You can pretty much go on a computer & voice-track sex now. But should you? Sure, it'd save budget in some cases.

I am, seriously, requesting a CB radio for Christmas. Not kidding. That is how committed I am to "live & local." Ok, there's the small speeding ticket thing too, plus thinking maybe I can gently convince the truckers to not drive side-by-side on I-10 en route to New Orleans. I speak their language. They're in my demo, you know.
johndavis said:
So, yes, the Sirius/XM 70's channel is 24/7 pukers with corny jokes...
Holy cow, I want to be on 70s XM and puke and be corny! (door wide open! ha....) btw, during one out-of-work stint, I auditioned to dj at a number of strip joints? Effectively, got a free look at naked ladies, but I really was just trying to get a job. They all were very impressed with the resume, but wouldnt hire because I couldnt puke properly.

The naked ladies on display nowadays arent really all that. They're covered with tattoos and earrings that arent in their ears, and they look like they're about to carjack somebody. There were no Nicole Kidman's or Demi Moores. whoops, sidetracked.....anyway:

Cue music (Argent: Hold Your Head Up) Its a flashback. ' 73, I think? "The Big 610!" ... K- I- L- T, HOUSTOOOON! Rockin tha Bayou City!" (hits the post!) "DA NA NA NAAAAA!"

I'm so glad my memory of that isnt voicetracked.
 
Sounds like the above is your typical out of work DJ walking around town with his bad airchecks that no PD will listen to. Maybe he pukes too much!



RGM
 
RADIOGM said:
Sounds like the above is your typical out of work DJ walking around town with his bad airchecks that no PD will listen to. Maybe he pukes too much!
RGM
Who are you and what great gig do you posess? If you'd like to discuss pro's and con's of the topic, feel free to join in, but dont come in here just so you can troll. Go out and confront somebody on the freeway if you have frustration issues.

Sorry to disappoint, but I'm quite gainfully employed. Havent needed an aircheck in years, actually. Why dont you send me yours, and I'llsee what I can do for you.
 
--whoops... double post

oh, while I'm here, "radiogm," a little reading comprehension will show why your post really doesnt make sense as a response to mine.

I'm ready to be nice any time you are.
 
I like Mike. I like Argent. -hence my conflict.

True talent always prevails. Mike has talent. I stake my reputation on it (such as it is.)
 
Oh, and Mike, the famous Big 610 jingle was 'Da na na, na na naaaahhh'-followed by a softer decaying 'nuuuhhhh'

I am sure all of you can hear it in your heads now :)
 
its time w (your name) said:
I need to know: -if Pasadena is burning.
-what freeway is completely freakin closed for no good reason.
-what Brangelina is doing right now.
-if the Texans just traded for Reggie Bush.
-who's having a party in Waller County.

How are you going to give me tickets to see Lovin Spoonful? I've got this terrific winner's scream waiting for your VoxPro. Weeeowwwwwieeee! OhmyGodIcantbelieveitiveneverwonanything!

And if you're really up there live in your glass tower overlooking the city, rocking to the record you just selected by color-dot, and you dont tell me any of the above, then I can safely know that Pasadena is not burning.

Well, then there's reality:

If you live in Pasadena and you see smoke, do you keep it at the home of the hits, or do you turn off the radio and flip on the TV so you can watch the chopper circle the blaze while Ken & Barbie repeat speculation over and over because they haven't been given any official information yet?

Of what you list, about the only thing that really stands out is "what freeway is completely freakin closed for no good reason" and you know about as well as I do that half the time you can't answer that live or tracked because Transtar hasn't updated the website...

Ticket giveaways are great for clients and prize pigs. I don't care who's having a party in Waller County because nobody invited me. I don't need radio for my Brangelina fix; Perez Hilton does it better and funnier online, complete with pictures (with extra editorial graffiti).

I go back and forth on how important we really are behind the mic. On the one hand, life experience tells me that if any of us leave any given radio station, the audience stays because they listen to the *station* and not *you*. You're part of the entire listening experience, but you're not the only draw.

On the other hand, I wonder if I wanted to take down Sunny (which still strikes me as the lowest of the low hanging ratings fruit out there) if a way to do it would be to return to being a Full Service AC. Do news with actual sound bites at the top of the hour (to hear this done right in a current music format, give BBC Radio 1 a listen) and put personalities in all the dayparts. KESZ did this in Phoenix about 10 years ago - strong morning show, with a team in the afternoon who could be a morning show in their own right... and a well loved local in the middays who kept the music going but always had something to say...

...then again, after the family that owned KEZ sold it to Clear Channel, they voicetracked everything but the morning show and grew the ratings and revenue...

But if I had several million dollars and a full power stick in Missouri City, I'd pick off KODA with strong talent and current music. (Is it me, or does Sunny have the Bee Gees in power rotation? Every time I walk into the dentist or chiropractor, I'm guaranteed to hear Night Fever.)
 
johndavis said:
its time w (your name) said:
I need to know: -if Pasadena is burning.
-what freeway is completely freakin closed for no good reason.
-what Brangelina is doing right now.
-if the Texans just traded for Reggie Bush.
-who's having a party in Waller County.

How are you going to give me tickets to see Lovin Spoonful? I've got this terrific winner's scream waiting for your VoxPro. Weeeowwwwwieeee! OhmyGodIcantbelieveitiveneverwonanything!

And if you're really up there live in your glass tower overlooking the city, rocking to the record you just selected by color-dot, and you dont tell me any of the above, then I can safely know that Pasadena is not burning.

Well, then there's reality:

If you live in Pasadena and you see smoke, do you keep it at the home of the hits, or do you turn off the radio and flip on the TV so you can watch the chopper circle the blaze while Ken & Barbie repeat speculation over and over because they haven't been given any official information yet?

Of what you list, about the only thing that really stands out is "what freeway is completely freakin closed for no good reason" and you know about as well as I do that half the time you can't answer that live or tracked because Transtar hasn't updated the website...

Ticket giveaways are great for clients and prize pigs. I don't care who's having a party in Waller County because nobody invited me. I don't need radio for my Brangelina fix; Perez Hilton does it better and funnier online, complete with pictures (with extra editorial graffiti).

I go back and forth on how important we really are behind the mic. On the one hand, life experience tells me that if any of us leave any given radio station, the audience stays because they listen to the *station* and not *you*. You're part of the entire listening experience, but you're not the only draw.

On the other hand, I wonder if I wanted to take down Sunny (which still strikes me as the lowest of the low hanging ratings fruit out there) if a way to do it would be to return to being a Full Service AC. Do news with actual sound bites at the top of the hour (to hear this done right in a current music format, give BBC Radio 1 a listen) and put personalities in all the dayparts. KESZ did this in Phoenix about 10 years ago - strong morning show, with a team in the afternoon who could be a morning show in their own right... and a well loved local in the middays who kept the music going but always had something to say...

...then again, after the family that owned KEZ sold it to Clear Channel, they voicetracked everything but the morning show and grew the ratings and revenue...

But if I had several million dollars and a full power stick in Missouri City, I'd pick off KODA with strong talent and current music. (Is it me, or does Sunny have the Bee Gees in power rotation? Every time I walk into the dentist or chiropractor, I'm guaranteed to hear Night Fever.)

Yeah. And bring back Zoey Bonet.

Dang you, Kevin, for restoring sanity and orderly discussion. If there was going to be a fight, I had a great idea for a promotion. It was going to be like the radio reunion, but with a Texas cage and stretchy pants.
 
Michael V - where art thou in radioland?



its time w (your name) said:
truthsayer said:
Want to hear excellence in voice tracking
"Excellence in VT." You're killing me.
Yes, I know Gallo. Super nice to nobodies like me, which says volumes in the radio biz.
johndavis said:
Read (I altered it for you) liners (more altering) and the only difference between you and wallpaper is paste.
I love it. Huaaah! Lets tattoo that to somebody's head.
johndavis said:
Okay, it's time ...to hang me from the rafters...
naa... we'll just sit you in the corner & duck tape you to a stool for my rant. (btw, barge in the house and have a beer one night)

I'm reminded of a scene from my favorite movie, Real Genius. (V. Kilmer/1984?) The professor is out. His students sit politely listening to a rolling reel-to-reel recorder. A few frames later the same classroom. Instructor's reel to reel again rolling--- then you see all the seats filled with recording devices in lieu of students. Pretty much what's happening today?
If we're not gonna show up, they're not either. Yeah, we got all these numbers spinning shares of the pie, (terrestrially speaking) but I question the size of the pie.

I need to know: -if Pasadena is burning.
-what freeway is completely freakin closed for no good reason.
-what Brangelina is doing right now.
-if the Texans just traded for Reggie Bush.
-who's having a party in Waller County.

How are you going to give me tickets to see Lovin Spoonful? I've got this terrific winner's scream waiting for your VoxPro. Weeeowwwwwieeee! OhmyGodIcantbelieveitiveneverwonanything!

And if you're really up there live in your glass tower overlooking the city, rocking to the record you just selected by color-dot, and you dont tell me any of the above, then I can safely know that Pasadena is not burning.

If its 9pm, and you went on mic when the traffic department girls (who are hard-working & wonderful) were still at work, you cant tell me whats happening now. You cant know the mood of the city, or in my case, the country. You dont have the feel, the vibe for the now, ...oh no, now I'm getting all artsy--- damn, The Change is happening to me. No one is immune... Run away everybody!

I'll admit I, the king of the phones, overdid the phoners, (You heard it here first.) but we've gotta have at least some human contact in there, and you know and I know the entertainment value of a good call. You're already sterilized by the corporate rules, and then you're further sterilized in what you can actually say in your VT, because you dont know whats going to be happening when your program airs.

Ethical employment practices and Death of Radio issues aside, it just doesnt work for me to voice-track radio any more than it works to VT Monday Night Football. Imagine. Down & distance--computer generated, random comments in, "Man, this crowd is really into it tonight." "Brett Favre is amazing." (My kids game does this!) 70's flashback: "We have a virtual plethora of human drama on display tonight." ---Yeah, you could have voice-tracked Howard Cosell.

You could voice-track a wedding reception. "We're celebrating tonight with Brad & Jennifer. Lets hear it for our bride and groom.... woooooooo."

Sara Palin, I admit, could have voice-tracked her debate with Joe Biden, and no one would have known.

You can pretty much go on a computer & voice-track sex now. But should you? Sure, it'd save budget in some cases.

I am, seriously, requesting a CB radio for Christmas. Not kidding. That is how committed I am to "live & local." Ok, there's the small speeding ticket thing too, plus thinking maybe I can gently convince the truckers to not drive side-by-side on I-10 en route to New Orleans. I speak their language. They're in my demo, you know.
johndavis said:
So, yes, the Sirius/XM 70's channel is 24/7 pukers with corny jokes...
Holy cow, I want to be on 70s XM and puke and be corny! (door wide open! ha....) btw, during one out-of-work stint, I auditioned to dj at a number of strip joints? Effectively, got a free look at naked ladies, but I really was just trying to get a job. They all were very impressed with the resume, but wouldnt hire because I couldnt puke properly.

The naked ladies on display nowadays arent really all that. They're covered with tattoos and earrings that arent in their ears, and they look like they're about to carjack somebody. There were no Nicole Kidman's or Demi Moores. whoops, sidetracked.....anyway:

Cue music (Argent: Hold Your Head Up) Its a flashback. ' 73, I think? "The Big 610!" ... K- I- L- T, HOUSTOOOON! Rockin tha Bayou City!" (hits the post!) "DA NA NA NAAAAA!"

I'm so glad my memory of that isnt voicetracked.
 
Speaking in strictly general terms, I think we can all agree that there's often a wide chasm between talent and temperament.
 
My reunion is not to be sullied with Lycra and Cyclone Fence thank you very much-and get ready for December 2009-that's all I'm sayin'.

Rowdylicious
 
That's a Spandex-Lycra combination. It's breathable, stain-resistant, and quite fetching. Very tasteful!

Will you at least try on the mask? :) :eek:
 
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