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Attn DLR: You Have Two Weeks...

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FMQB is reporting this morning (4/20) that David Lee Roth MIGHT have MAYBE two weeks left in Philly, NYC and Boston. It's not known whether WNCX/Cleveland will be one of them replaced by Opie and Anthony.

Here's the link to this morning's story:
http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=203624

Anybody hear this morning's DLR show?
 
So CBS/Viacom is hiring Opie and Anthony? Wow. Not sure if that's a good business decision since they were fired from the same company 4 years ago. I wonder if CBS will get heat from their "church" antics a few years back...
Thoughts anyone?





> FMQB is reporting this morning (4/20) that David Lee Roth
> MIGHT have MAYBE two weeks left in Philly, NYC and Boston.
> It's not known whether WNCX/Cleveland will be one of them
> replaced by Opie and Anthony.
>
> Here's the link to this morning's story:
> http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=203624
>
> Anybody hear this morning's DLR show?
>
 
O&A addressed the church issue early on w/ their XM show. At some point during their 2 years off, they had a sit down with both the Catholic League people and someone from St. Pats, where they apologized. However, all agreed it was best not to make a big show out of it. I think the Catholic League people eventually confirmed it.
 
> O&A addressed the church issue early on w/ their XM show.
> At some point during their 2 years off, they had a sit down
> with both the Catholic League people and someone from St.
> Pats, where they apologized. However, all agreed it was
> best not to make a big show out of it. I think the Catholic
> League people eventually confirmed it.

That's not the issue. The issue is whether it could happen again.

The answer to that is "yes," especailly after Opie and Anthony have tasted "freedom" on XM. If they're predisposed to test the limits--or have no limits, as the church thing showed--what makes anyone think they won't do it again?

Of course, this is all assuming that O&A would do a live show on CBS stations. If it's merely a day-old edit of their XM show, how boring are we getting? It's not live, it's not syndicated, it's not even voicetracked--it's previously recorded and edited to fit in the time alotted and for content. The only thing missing is formatted to fit this screen.

How boring are our programming executives?

[n.b. At least they're radio veterans, as opposed to Roth, who is a has-been rock star and sometime-EMT.]
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Johnny Morgan on 04/20/06 03:04 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Gimme a freakin' break!

Opie & Anthony?

The poster children of exactly why radio is viewed as a juvenile medium with little or no credibility. Know what? We rank right up there with used car salesmen in the public opinion respect surveys. And we're shocked, right?

This is sad and it really sucks.

You mean to tell me, they cannot find anybody to do a creative, and listener repsonsive LOCAL show? Sad.

All of this crap just confirms what I have been saying for the past five years, radio is officially the buggy whip industry of the new millennium.



> > O&A addressed the church issue early on w/ their XM show.
>
> > At some point during their 2 years off, they had a sit
> down
> > with both the Catholic League people and someone from St.
> > Pats, where they apologized. However, all agreed it was
> > best not to make a big show out of it. I think the
> Catholic
> > League people eventually confirmed it.
>
> That's not the issue. The issue is whether it could happen
> again.
>
>
 
> Gimme a freakin' break!
>
> Opie & Anthony?
>
> The poster children of exactly why radio is viewed as a
> juvenile medium with little or no credibility.
> This is sad and it really sucks.

Thank you, XA....I believe the term is "nail on the head".
There IS plenty of talent out there....unfortunately, it's easier to slide in a syndicated show or, worse yet, a voicetracker (sorry, make them sound local all you want, they take jobs away from jocks) that some consultant 2,000 miles away told them to do.
Glad I'm not the only one REALLY tired of the pee-pee jokes that pass as "outrageous humor" on radio.
-Brady
 
I think what you're seeing is an 'unravelling' of their radio division since Stern left; Even if you're a critic of Stern you have to hand it to the guy-He successfully built that radio division for the past 20+ years. Not sure what they were thinking placing DLR, Roth, and Corrola on the payroll. Perhaps DLR was right; CBS attempting to 'lower the bar' by hiring rookies, firing them after a short period, then bringing on seasoned announcers...or....maybe DLR's just a delusional out-of-date spandex rocker....lol



> > O&A addressed the church issue early on w/ their XM show.
>
> > At some point during their 2 years off, they had a sit
> down
> > with both the Catholic League people and someone from St.
> > Pats, where they apologized. However, all agreed it was
> > best not to make a big show out of it. I think the
> Catholic
> > League people eventually confirmed it.
>
> That's not the issue. The issue is whether it could happen
> again.
>
> The answer to that is "yes," especailly after Opie and
> Anthony have tasted "freedom" on XM. If they're predisposed
> to test the limits--or have no limits, as the church thing
> showed--what makes anyone think they won't do it again?
>
> Of course, this is all assuming that O&A would do a live
> show on CBS stations. If it's merely a day-old edit of
> their XM show, how boring are we getting? It's not live,
> it's not syndicated, it's not even voicetracked--it's
> previously recorded and edited to fit in the time alotted
> and for content. The only thing missing is formatted to fit
> this screen.
>
> How boring are our programming executives?
>
> [n.b. At least they're radio veterans, as opposed to Roth,
> who is a has-been rock star and sometime-EMT.]
>
 
Let's be honest, based on things that have occurred on Mancow, Howard Stern, Bubba and thousands of others how really outrageous is it to have a couple having sex in a church. Plus, I think we all would have to admit, even though we may personally have not liked the segment, that it does make pretty good radio. Probably the ones that were most outraged by the segment are those that don't and wouldn't listen to O&A.

From what I see in radio world O&A is the only viable alternative to increased ratings and revenue for CBS. The publicity attached to CBS rehiring these guys, etc. will sure drive up sampling and cume.

Let's NOT confuse our own personal preferences with this "solution". O&A delivers an audience, ratings and reveune. It's all about the bottom line.

CBS' only regret will be not putting this solution in place last January or before!
 
> Thank you, XA....I believe the term is "nail on the head".
> There IS plenty of talent out there....unfortunately, it's
> easier to slide in a syndicated show or, worse yet, a
> voicetracker (sorry, make them sound local all you want,
> they take jobs away from jocks) that some consultant 2,000
> miles away told them to do.
> Glad I'm not the only one REALLY tired of the pee-pee jokes
> that pass as "outrageous humor" on radio.

While it may be sad that people are losing jobs, it doesn't necessarily mean radio is dying, as posters here would imply. Just like I'd rather see WPGB/Pittsburgh have its own newsstaff rather than poaching whoever's standing around in WTAM's newsroom, the casts on both stations sound very professional. So the fact that theoretical local morning show hosts that existed 15 years ago pre-Stern aren't getting jobs is irrelevent.
 
> From what I see in radio world O&A is the only viable
> alternative to increased ratings and revenue for CBS. The
> publicity attached to CBS rehiring these guys, etc. will
> sure drive up sampling and cume.

CBS said the same thing about Roth. How'd that pan out? From day one, Roth's sample and cume have been in the basement.

> Let's NOT confuse our own personal preferences with this
> "solution". O&A delivers an audience, ratings and reveune.

No, O&A *delivered* (past tense) an audience, ratings and revenue. They haven't had to do a commercial radio show in nearly 4 years. What audience they had was in PM drive--on a station that doesn't exist anymore. That audience, to the extent it would come back, has already settled elsewhere in AM drive (and probably had been there already when O&A were on PM).

There's nothing about this that makes the situation any better--especially for WNCX. O&A's audience from 2001-2002, making the big assumption they come back, are not staying with WNCX after 10am. How does that help them at all? And it's highly doubtful that WNCX's post-10 audience has any interest in hearing a couple of guys old enough to be their kids.
 
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