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I never do. Usually I will turn it off or mute the audio, do something else, then come back, and unmuted after a few minutes. Sometimes I've come back after several minutes and it's still ads then I completely turn it off.
I never tried that. I can just start it up and then add another window in my browser. Thanks for the idea.
In my experience, when listening directly to a station's stream (i.e. not via TuneIn), long trains of pre-roll ads strike when the station in question is in a commercial break on its OTA signal. For me, re-starting the stream during such periods restarts the same pre-roll ad from its very beginning, or starts a different pre-roll ad from its very beginning, proving that I'm not actually hearing the OTA signal's commercials. Try this using an OTA radio for simultaneous comparisons. Meanwhile, when stations are airing music, that's when I either get no pre-roll ad whatsoever, or only one. And often, that one ad, if it does begin playing upon starting the stream, can be aborted just by re-starting the stream.

Various streaming CDNs behave differently, of course, so this won't be the behavior found everywhere. But it seems to be the pattern I experience with stations using the two huge playerservices.streamtheworld.com and stream.abacast.net CDNs. E.g., for David (these are Los Angeles stations that I presume he can hear from his location):

http://stream.abacast.net/direct/audacy-ktwvfmaac-imc
http://stream.abacast.net/direct/audacy-kroqfmaac-imc
http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KDAYFMAAC_SC
http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KLOSFMAAC_SC
http://playerservices.streamtheworld.com/api/livestream-redirect/KPWRAAC_SC

Try comparing those to your OTA reception. On two occasions while writing this post, I was able to abort a pre-roll ad just by clicking [reload] in my browser after hitting one of these URLs while the OTA signal was in music. On other occasions, while the OTA signal was in break, the pre-roll ads just kept restarting, no matter how many reloads I did.
 
If one is somewhat savvy with the Web Developer Tools that are built into Firefox (and I presume Chrome), one can find the actual stream URL, which usually doesn't have any of the ads associated with it (most of which are overlaid onto the stream via some sort of javascript or other magic incantation).

It doesn't always work, particularly with more sophisticated services, but I find that it works more often than not.

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IMHO: This is like the AM skywave sales issue back before FM took over. There are a few exceptions (WLAC had great per inquiry business) but for the most part it was difficult to sell non sports advertising after 9pm. Some stations had listeners in 20 or 40 states but the advertising was / is sold to businesses in that station's day time coverage who don't care about folks that will never buy from them 3 states away.
 
In the summer of 2001, a lot of over-the-air Internet simulcast streams went offline and didn't come back for a year or two. The long term reason for this was the issue of paying record companies and recording artists what they wanted, but there was a short term issue as well. That summer, the union representing the people who voiced national advertising campaigns went on strike for more money for any of their advertisements that appeared on the Internet at the same time as they appeared on the air. While the union essentially won the protest, it forced broadcasters to seek new advertisers to be heard on Internet streams at the same time they were airing over-the-air advertisements. While this does not explain the preroll ad issue (that's a separate issue), it does explain why Internet streams continue to have different commercials than the same stations over the air during commercial breaks.
 
. While the union essentially won the protest, it forced broadcasters to seek new advertisers to be heard on Internet streams at the same time they were airing over-the-air advertisements. While this does not explain the preroll ad issue (that's a separate issue), it does explain why Internet streams continue to have different commercials than the same stations over the air during commercial breaks.
It was not radio stations that recorded the ads in question. This was an issue with ad agencies that did not want to pay extra fees if their recorded union member voiced spots also ran on simulcast streams.

So lots of agency orders... the majority in fact... said "no streaming" or words to that effect.

Some stations suspended or modified their streaming, particularly in larger markets where their own staff announcers were union members.

I do not remember "lots" of streams being suspended but there were some. Most stations worked around that by separating the stopsets and running mostly different content on the streams.
 
It was not radio stations that recorded the ads in question. This was an issue with ad agencies that did not want to pay extra fees if their recorded union member voiced spots also ran on simulcast streams.

So lots of agency orders... the majority in fact... said "no streaming" or words to that effect.

Some stations suspended or modified their streaming, particularly in larger markets where their own staff announcers were union members.

I do not remember "lots" of streams being suspended but there were some. Most stations worked around that by separating the stopsets and running mostly different content on the streams.

Actually, a lot of radio stations did, citing the advertising issues, though the question of the possible music charges was the more likely culprit. Clear Channel turned all of their stations' streams at that time; so did ABC (those stations hadn't been sold to Disney yet) and Citadel. Outside of the noncommercial stations, the only groups I know of that didn't turn off their streams during that time period (though they stopped playing over-the-air ads during station breaks) were Susquehanna, a small group that was later purchased by Cumulus, and Cox.

I remember all of this very well for it was when all of this was happening that I was getting into Internet radio. I began investigating the issues surrounding the stream stoppages on Kurt Hanson's site, and I contacted NPR about the situation. (NPR ran a feature story based on that contact using my voice as part of its introduction in early September of 2001.)

The streams did come back, slowly at first, but later with increased speed, especially after mobile cell phones became popular.
 
Sorry, Ted, but David's correct. I remember that very clearly. It really was an issue with AFTRA.
 
Actually, a lot of radio stations did, citing the advertising issues, though the question of the possible music charges was the more likely culprit. Clear Channel turned all of their stations' streams at that time; so did ABC (those stations hadn't been sold to Disney yet) and Citadel. Outside of the noncommercial stations, the only groups I know of that didn't turn off their streams during that time period (though they stopped playing over-the-air ads during station breaks) were Susquehanna, a small group that was later purchased by Cumulus, and Cox.

I don't know that it was a lot of stations, but it was definitely a noticeable number. Most of the ones owned by the big operators, including Clear Channel and Citadel, were back online, or at least gave local markets the option of going back online, by the end of the year. The AFTRA spot issue was fairly easy to solve if you didn't run network programming or syndication. Most operators, including my employer, were already experimenting with ad insertion anyway. You just set the encoder to not encode the "cart numbers" of the spots that couldn't be streamed. If you still used cart machines, all you had to do was disconnect a machine or two from the stream and mark the AFTRA spots on the log. Then, you only played the AFTRA spots on the disconnected machines.

Something else to keep in mind is that bandwidth was expensive 25 years ago, especially if you weren't in a large city or major metropolitan area. When one of our streaming providers went out of business, we moved our streaming to Warp Radio. The previous provider covered our bandwith; Warp didn't. Once we saw the cost of the bandwidth was $1,000/month per station (7 total), we went from streaming all seven stations to only streaming the two most popular. That company was our only potential bandwidth provider. We looked in vain for a competitor but couldn't find anybody else in our area. Later, we struck a deal with SurferNetwork that paid most, if not all, of the bandwidth costs and got all of our stations back online. I believe we had to pay the SoundExchange royalties, but, at the time, those were a pittance compared to almost $100,000/year in bandwidth. When I was working what turned out to be my last radio job a little more than five years later, that company resumed streaming after it was able to trade out its bandwidth. That was definitely something we couldn't have done in the year 2000!

The streams did come back, slowly at first, but later with increased speed, especially after mobile cell phones became popular.

Something else to keep in mind is that some of the "old guard" of radio, if you will, left the industry. Mel Karmazin was among the most vocal and well-known, but he was far from the only one who considered internet audio competition rather than a complimentary service that could be sold on top of the over-the-air product. Some will probably still argue he was right and can make a convincing case for that, but he wasn't right in the manner he thought he was.

Cumulus also had a group-wide prohibition on streaming in 2001. A few Cumulus properties streamed in the years before, but it decided streaming wasn't worth the hassle by the time. The company I talked about in the first and second paragraphs sold to Cumulus in 2004, and I believe we had the only music (if not the only, period) stations in the entire company that were streaming. We kept expecting to be told to take the streams down, but corporate never said a word. Not sure when it made the change, but, by the end of 2008, Cumulus had its own streaming portal. I was long gone from the company by that time. I barely lasted 100 days after the Cumulus takeover.
 
It was not radio stations that recorded the ads in question. This was an issue with ad agencies that did not want to pay extra fees if their recorded union member voiced spots also ran on simulcast streams.

So lots of agency orders... the majority in fact... said "no streaming" or words to that effect.

Some stations suspended or modified their streaming, particularly in larger markets where their own staff announcers were union members.

I do not remember "lots" of streams being suspended but there were some. Most stations worked around that by separating the stopsets and running mostly different content on the streams.

YES! I remember this, i was in 7th or 8th grade, visiting my grandparents in Florida and wanted to listen to WDRC from Hartford but couldnt even though I used to be able to stream them! and i very much remember it was talent being paid extra!
 
If one is somewhat savvy with the Web Developer Tools that are built into Firefox (and I presume Chrome), one can find the actual stream URL, which usually doesn't have any of the ads associated with it (most of which are overlaid onto the stream via some sort of javascript or other magic incantation).
This is how I find direct stream links as well. Although the maintainers of radio-locator.com usually have the direct links for most stations, so I check there first to save time.
It doesn't always work, particularly with more sophisticated services, but I find that it works more often than not.
Most stations that stream in non-ICY formats, like HLS, HDS, or even using crap like web sockets, also configure their servers to output standard ICY streams. The links for those streams are handed out to platforms who want them for their simplicity of implementation. Perfect example: the makers of hardware internet radios that lack the horsepower to run the giant JavaScript blobs required to parse complex formats like HDS. Aggregator platforms like TuneIn and MyTuner also prefer getting ICY links since, as aggregators, they would otherwise have to write and maintain multiple JavaScript libs for every possible format their indexed stations streamed in.

Bottom line, ICY is so established and simple a format that even when stations opt for newer formats for their main streams, they virtually always furnish ICY streams for use "off site" that you can find and plop into good old VLC, mplayer, WinAmp, or the web browser of your choice. Most stations' ICY streams even still answer on HTTP port 80, along with HTTPS port 443, for the sake of legacy software and hardware players! For example, I believe that the iHeart platform delivers its streams via HLS, but here are the ICY links for KFI on both ports 80 (http://stream.revma.ihrhls.com/zc177) and 443 (https://stream.revma.ihrhls.com/zc177).
 
I never do. Usually I will turn it off or mute the audio, do something else, then come back, and unmuted after a few minutes. Sometimes I've come back after several minutes and it's still ads then I completely turn it off.
Yes I listen to them - isn't that what I am supposed to do?
 
There has been some activity at Radio.com. The domain name was "updated" on September 30, 2025, and the identity of the new owner is now masked. When you go to the site, it talks about being a "music discovery" site, where artists can present their music. There is a lengthy statement at the site saying they have $10 million to spend on acquiring music from artists. There's a quote from someone named Paul Josephsen. There is such a person at something called UpRoxx, a division of Warner Music.


"We're investing in artist careers - starting with their catalogs to drive their promotion, get them heard by millions of more potential fans and to grow true fandom," said Paul Josephsen, Chief Operating Officer at Radio.com. "Our model recognizes that artists deserve to participate in the upside of their own success. When our promotion helps them grow, they continue to earn from that growth. It's a true partnership that starts with them getting paid for their streaming potential and helps them grow fan bases that they monetize directly through live shows and merchandise.

The date on the announcement is 12/15/25, which of course is two weeks from now. I did a search for a press release and didn't find one.

From what I can tell, UpRoxx is no longer owned by Warner Music. It's independently owned. It doesn't appear as though Paul Josephsen still works for them. However, there are similarities between UpRoxx and Radio.com in terms of their interest to work with artists to promote their music.
 
There has been some activity at Radio.com. The domain name was "updated" on September 30, 2025, and the identity of the new owner is now masked. When you go to the site, it talks about being a "music discovery" site, where artists can present their music. There is a lengthy statement at the site saying they have $10 million to spend on acquiring music from artists. There's a quote from someone named Paul Josephsen. There is such a person at something called UpRoxx, a division of Warner Music.


The date on the announcement is 12/15/25, which of course is two weeks from now. I did a search for a press release and didn't find one.

From what I can tell, UpRoxx is no longer owned by Warner Music. It's independently owned. It doesn't appear as though Paul Josephsen still works for them. However, there are similarities between UpRoxx and Radio.com in terms of their interest to work with artists to promote their music.
The phone number at the bottom of Radio.com gives it all away...

It's for audio ad tech company Consumable... Where Paul Josephsen happens to be Chief Operating Officer. They appear to be the new owners of the brand.

Separately, Uproxx was sold back to its founders last year. It doesn't appear to have any direct connection to Consumable/Radio.com.
 
It's for audio ad tech company Consumable... Where Paul Josephsen happens to be Chief Operating Officer. They appear to be the new owners of the brand.

Feels very fake. Like a scam site, offering to buy music and do what with it? Put it on a site with no traffic?

In any case, it's not owned by a traditional radio company or anything having to do with radio. Probably got the domain cheap.
 
Feels very fake. Like a scam site, offering to buy music and do what with it? Put it on a site with no traffic?

In any case, it's not owned by a traditional radio company or anything having to do with radio. Probably got the domain cheap.
Consumable is one of the big players in streaming audio ad tech. This looks like their attempt to create their own public facing platform.
 
Consumable is one of the big players in streaming audio ad tech. This looks like their attempt to create their own public facing platform.

So here we are, two months later, and Inside Radio gets around to reporting to the story you had in November:

 
So here we are, two months later, and Inside Radio gets around to reporting to the story you had in November:

Because the sale only finally closed last week.

ChatGPT already previewed what AI Radio might become. Hard to predict what Consumable might be able to do with this.
 


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