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Audio: Angry woman calls up local CBS affiliate for tornado coverage
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SHE called in...I'm sure there's SOME legalese proclamation that states by your calling in, you agree that your voice can be used. As for the topic here....I live in Dallas...I have no problem with them breaking into programming for Tarrant or Denton counties. I thought the Oklahoma tornado coverage a few weeks back wa sa tad excessive for DFW stations. But the weathercast has turned into LOTS of doom and gloom fear-mongering in the last few years.
fredcantu said:
she should feel humiliated for making that call.
Boy, is all this alleged legal chatter a non-starter.
1. Texas is a "One party" state...meaning as long as ONE party to a phone call knows it is being recorded, there is no violation of the law.
2. Once you make that call...you don't have any "privacy rights." See "1.", above.
3. "Invasion of Privacy"? Seriously? SHE called THEIR station. Nobody invaded her privacy. Sheesh.
3. As always, truth is the best defense. Did she say it? Yes, she did. Suing for slander? Excuse me? Again, its not a private call. You should hear the idiotic bullsh*t that people call in and say on "Tell It To Tim" [Ryan] on FOX-4 in Dallas on Fridays.
1. Texas is a "One party" state...meaning as long as ONE party to a phone call knows it is being recorded, there is no violation of the law.
2. Once you make that call...you don't have any "privacy rights." See "1.", above.
3. "Invasion of Privacy"? Seriously? SHE called THEIR station. Nobody invaded her privacy. Sheesh.
3. As always, truth is the best defense. Did she say it? Yes, she did. Suing for slander? Excuse me? Again, its not a private call. You should hear the idiotic bullsh*t that people call in and say on "Tell It To Tim" [Ryan] on FOX-4 in Dallas on Fridays.
You're mixing laws. You are free to record your phone conversations, but posting them or otherwise broadcasting them in a public forum is quite another matter. Callers to "Tell it to Tim" call in with the expectation that their call will be used on the air. In fact they hope will be used. A private person calling a non-studio or non-air number at a station has no expectation that the call will be shared beyond the staff and management of the station. You are invading the caller's privacy by broadcasting a private communication on the web.
All that's missing for a lawsuit is for one person to recognize the caller's voice and tell that person that she's making the rounds on youtube and that the TV station can't be trusted to keep a private call... well... private.
All that's missing for a lawsuit is for one person to recognize the caller's voice and tell that person that she's making the rounds on youtube and that the TV station can't be trusted to keep a private call... well... private.
I did a poll of my facebook friends, mostly viewers, and was surprised to find out that many believe that a voice mail message becomes the property of the perosn who receives it for them to do as they please. But many also though it would be courteous to warn in your voicemail greeting that any message may be used on-air or on-line. One went as far as suggesting you could ask the caller to "Press 1" to give permission to broadcast the call thus removing any doubt.
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[EDIT]What if a tornado had blown her trailer into the next county? Would she be found in the rubble still clinging to her DTV hoping to catch the spine tingling conclusion to her weekly electromagnetic soma? Know future.
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So long as a wire, oral, or electronic communication—including the radio portion of any cordless telephone call—is not recorded for a criminal or tortious purpose, anyone who is a party to the communication, or who has the consent of a party, can lawfully record the communication and disclose its contents. Texas Penal Code § 16.02.
Source: Reporter's Committee for Freedom of the Press
http://www.rcfp.org
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Okla. Stat. tit. 13, § 176.4: Anyone who is a party to a wire, oral or electronic communication or who has obtained consent from a party can lawfully record or disclose the contents of that communication, so long as he does not do so in furtherance of a criminal act.
Source: FOI Oklahoma Inc.
http://www.foioklahoma.org
Source: Reporter's Committee for Freedom of the Press
http://www.rcfp.org
Similar in Oklahoma
Okla. Stat. tit. 13, § 176.4: Anyone who is a party to a wire, oral or electronic communication or who has obtained consent from a party can lawfully record or disclose the contents of that communication, so long as he does not do so in furtherance of a criminal act.
Source: FOI Oklahoma Inc.
http://www.foioklahoma.org
Wynnewood is a neighborhood in Dallas, so she was knocking on KTVT's door.
Well, back to the topic at hand...
When I worked in Wichita Falls, KAUZ broke into afternoon programming to report the space shuttle Challenger disaster (none of the broadcast networks carried the launch live - CNN was the only news outlet to do so). The switchboard at the station literally exploded with calls from old women who were irate that "As The World Turns" was being interrupted for - <gasp> - NEWS! God forbid we should have to hear about the deaths of seven astronauts and the destruction of one of America's space shuttles, when there's a soap opera to watch!
Electromagnetic soma, indeed. That's only one of the myriad reasons I got out of that biz.
When I worked in Wichita Falls, KAUZ broke into afternoon programming to report the space shuttle Challenger disaster (none of the broadcast networks carried the launch live - CNN was the only news outlet to do so). The switchboard at the station literally exploded with calls from old women who were irate that "As The World Turns" was being interrupted for - <gasp> - NEWS! God forbid we should have to hear about the deaths of seven astronauts and the destruction of one of America's space shuttles, when there's a soap opera to watch!
Electromagnetic soma, indeed. That's only one of the myriad reasons I got out of that biz.
OK, I just spotted this thread and listened to this voice mail. Have to admit, the YouTube footage in sync with it did crack me up.
However, on the whole, I am absolutely disgusted by it. Her voice is that of the average American idiot in 2010 and it's sad. Narcissistic, selfish, undereducated and spoiled. Frankly, her voice is the voice of far too many people that you see in the mall, at Wal-Mart, at the airport and it sums up the attitudes of our (admittedly more polished) politicians. That a tornado may be killing kids across town is not HER problem, it's theirs. So f**** them and put my show back on! How dare you inconvenience ME!?!
Sad and scary, if you think about it.
It's also a bit appalling to see posts here worrying about HER feelings that the vm was posted! Huh? ???
Tell me, what did the outgoing message (from the station) say when she was forwarded to voice mail? Because a pretty decent percentage of radio and TV stations (and other companies) note that your message is recorded and some iteration of how that recording becomes THEIR property. Our local station in Chicago has just such a message, in other words, by leaving a message you are giving permission for its' use.
Whoever posted this on YouTube deserves a medal. And I hope that the slimebag, ignorant b**ch who left that message somehow learns a lesson from it.
However, on the whole, I am absolutely disgusted by it. Her voice is that of the average American idiot in 2010 and it's sad. Narcissistic, selfish, undereducated and spoiled. Frankly, her voice is the voice of far too many people that you see in the mall, at Wal-Mart, at the airport and it sums up the attitudes of our (admittedly more polished) politicians. That a tornado may be killing kids across town is not HER problem, it's theirs. So f**** them and put my show back on! How dare you inconvenience ME!?!
Sad and scary, if you think about it.
It's also a bit appalling to see posts here worrying about HER feelings that the vm was posted! Huh? ???
Tell me, what did the outgoing message (from the station) say when she was forwarded to voice mail? Because a pretty decent percentage of radio and TV stations (and other companies) note that your message is recorded and some iteration of how that recording becomes THEIR property. Our local station in Chicago has just such a message, in other words, by leaving a message you are giving permission for its' use.
Whoever posted this on YouTube deserves a medal. And I hope that the slimebag, ignorant b**ch who left that message somehow learns a lesson from it.
BRNout said:
I'm with you on this one, BRNout. TV and radio stations are licensed "to serve the public interest, convenience, and necessity." But far too many in the "biz" these days seem to have forgotten about all of that except for "convenience."
Guys, this business isn't just selling soap. It's a public trust, and each individual viewer isn't always right. In this case, the viewer was so horribly wrong, I think it was worthwhile to point it out publicly.
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