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Audio processing for Winamp

Re: A better choice: Energize II

> I listen to your stream but there a is lot low in your
> stream. A little bit high tones would be nice.
>

Thanks for your comments - I just tweaked it and took out some bass and put back some trebel...<P ID="signature">______________

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Re: A better choice: Energize II

> > I listen to your stream but there a is lot low in your
> > stream. A little bit high tones would be nice.
> >
>
> Thanks for your comments - I just tweaked it and took out
> some bass and put back some trebel...
>

That's lot better. Where can you tweak treble and base in the energizeII.ini file?
 
Re: SAM's Sound Solution

> The built in processing doesn't work correctly.
>
> Also, DON'T disable the 5 band processor. Run the expander
> and run the compressor (the limiter just causes
> overmodulation in the clipping stage). Only the mid and low
> bands on the compressor should be aggressive (in order to
> prevent ducking in the LF for the dual band compressor
> stage). +10dB overdrive, -3dB density = optimod/omnia
> emulation.
>

Oh my! This IS a good one! Energize rocks! (certainly not for the average idiot in the setup dept. though)<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: A better choice: Energize II

> > Thanks & I do agree with you 100% on that. This is
> probably
> > one of the best plugins i have ever seen for producing the
>
> > same fantastic sound cbsfm had before they destroyed their
>
> > sound qaulity in august 2004. If you ever get the right
> > exact settings for cbsfms sound let me know my email
> address
> > is [email protected]
> > this plugin makes mixmeister with the reverb sound really
> > good like cbsfm.
>
> Try these settings... cut and paste this into Notepad and
> save it as c:EnergizeII.in
>
> The high end might sound a little mellow, but I designed it
> to be compatible with the pre-emphasis used in FM
> broadcasting (change PreEmpUS = 0 to PreEmpUS = 75 if you're
> using it with an FM transmitter which does not have built-in
> pre-emphasis).
>
>
> AGC_release = 0.1
> AGC_threshold = -5.0
> AGC_threshold_gate = -40.0
> AGC_attack = 0.5
> AGC_maxamp = 15.0
> AGC_detect_time = 1.000
> StFilter = 1
> stereo_b2 = 1.00
> stereo_b3 = 1.00
> stereo_b4 = 1.00
> stereo_b5 = 1.00
> in_drive = 12.0
> b1_detect_time = 0.050
> b2_detect_time = 0.050
> b3_detect_time = 0.050
> b4_detect_time = 0.050
> b5_detect_time = 0.050
> Coupling21 = 0.50
> Coupling23 = 0.00
> Coupling24 = 0.00
> Coupling25 = 0.00
> Coupling31 = 0.00
> Coupling32 = 0.30
> Coupling34 = 0.30
> Coupling35 = 0.00
> Coupling41 = 0.00
> Coupling42 = 0.00
> Coupling43 = 0.30
> Coupling45 = 0.30
> b1_threshold = -14.0
> b2_threshold = -13.0
> b3_threshold = -17.1
> b4_threshold = -21.1
> b5_threshold = -27.1
> bx_threshold_gate = -40.0
> bx_release_gate = 30.0
> GateLevelDetector_detecttime = 0.050
> b1_release = 10.000
> b2_release = 10.000
> b3_release = 10.000
> b4_release = 10.000
> b5_release = 10.000
> Compressor1Hold = 11025
> Compressor2Hold = 11025
> Compressor3Hold = 11025
> Compressor4Hold = 11025
> Compressor5Hold = 11025
> b3_gain_average_t = 0.500
> b4_gain_average_t = 0.500
> b5_gain_average_t = 0.500
> b1_limiter_threshold = -14.0
> b2_limiter_threshold = -12.0
> b3_limiter_threshold = -13.0
> b4_limiter_threshold = -15.0
> b5_limiter_threshold = -20.0
> b1_output_mix = 0.0
> b2_output_mix = 0.0
> b3_output_mix = 0.0
> b4_output_mix = 0.0
> b5_output_mix = 0.0
> OutSwitchB1 = 1
> OutSwitchB2 = 1
> OutSwitchB3 = 1
> OutSwitchB4 = 1
> OutSwitchB5 = 1
> PreEmpUS = 0
> FinalGain = 6.0
> final_threshold = -0.2
> final_average_t = 0.050
> final_slowrelease = 0.5
>



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Here's my version of it, with a bit more of the open sound..

AGC_release = 0.26
AGC_threshold = -3.5
AGC_threshold_gate = -20.0
AGC_attack = 0.032
AGC_maxamp = 08.0
AGC_detect_time = 0.890
StFilter = 0
stereo_b2 = 1.00
stereo_b3 = 1.00
stereo_b4 = 1.00
stereo_b5 = 1.00
in_drive = 15.0
b1_detect_time = 0.030
b2_detect_time = 0.030
b3_detect_time = 0.030
b4_detect_time = 0.020
b5_detect_time = 0.010
Coupling21 = 0.40
Coupling23 = 0.32
Coupling24 = 0.10
Coupling25 = 0.08
Coupling31 = 0.35
Coupling32 = 0.79
Coupling34 = 0.40
Coupling35 = 0.20
Coupling41 = 0.25
Coupling42 = 0.50
Coupling43 = 0.62
Coupling45 = 0.35
b1_threshold = -14.0
b2_threshold = -13.0
b3_threshold = -17.0
b4_threshold = -19.0
b5_threshold = -19.0
bx_threshold_gate = -40.0
bx_release_gate = 30.0
GateLevelDetector_detecttime = 0.050
b1_release = 0.500
b2_release = 0.500
b3_release = 0.700
b4_release = 0.700
b5_release = 0.700
Compressor1Hold = 11025
Compressor2Hold = 11025
Compressor3Hold = 11025
Compressor4Hold = 11025
Compressor5Hold = 11025
b3_gain_average_t = 0.100
b4_gain_average_t = 0.100
b5_gain_average_t = 0.100
b1_limiter_threshold = -14.0
b2_limiter_threshold = -11.0
b3_limiter_threshold = -12.0
b4_limiter_threshold = -12.0
b5_limiter_threshold = -12.0
b1_output_mix = 0.0
b2_output_mix = 0.0
b3_output_mix = 0.0
b4_output_mix = 0.0
b5_output_mix = 0.0
OutSwitchB1 = 1
OutSwitchB2 = 1
OutSwitchB3 = 1
OutSwitchB4 = 1
OutSwitchB5 = 1
PreEmpUS = 0
FinalGain = 4.0
final_threshold = -0.2
final_average_t = 0.050
final_slowrelease = 0.5


I'm still dinking with it a bit.. I would like to see it a bit more less pumpy. Any suggestions on how to do that?

Thanks!
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Re: A better choice: Energize II

> I'm still dinking with it a bit.. I would like to see it a
> bit more less pumpy. Any suggestions on how to do that?

Massively increase the compressor release times ("b1_release" through "b5_release"). The default is 700 ms for each band, or 0.7 seconds, while I changed my preset to use release times of 10000 ms (10 seconds)!<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: SAM's Sound Solution

> Oh my! This IS a good one! Energize rocks! (certainly not
> for the average idiot in the setup dept. though)

The only important thing Energize II lacks is clipping, which makes it great to put in front of a basic analog limi-clipper box, like a cheapo Inovonics or Hnat-Hindes.

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Re: SAM's Sound Solution

> > Oh my! This IS a good one! Energize rocks! (certainly
> not
> > for the average idiot in the setup dept. though)
>
> The only important thing Energize II lacks is clipping,
> which makes it great to put in front of a basic analog
> limi-clipper box, like a cheapo Inovonics or Hnat-Hindes.
>

Yeah..... I do notice it doesn't seem to have any HF limiting... That would be a vast improvement for FM use.

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--- THE Insultant ---</P>
 
Re: SAM's Sound Solution

I agree, I Love Energize II. This is definitly what have been looking for a real long time to duplicate the great 1 and only WCBS-FM 101.1 Sound Quality on my computer for winamp and mixmeister. I highly recommend this product if anyone wants the same exact sound quality as WCBS-FM had before upper management at 101.1 destroyed this great sound in august 2004.
> > Oh my! This IS a good one! Energize rocks! (certainly
> not
> > for the average idiot in the setup dept. though)
>
> The only important thing Energize II lacks is clipping,
> which makes it great to put in front of a basic analog
> limi-clipper box, like a cheapo Inovonics or Hnat-Hindes.
>
 
Re: SAM's Sound Solution

> I agree, I Love Energize II. This is definitly what have
> been looking for a real long time to duplicate the great 1
> and only WCBS-FM 101.1 Sound Quality on my computer for
> winamp and mixmeister. I highly recommend this product if
> anyone wants the same exact sound quality as WCBS-FM had
> before upper management at 101.1 destroyed this great sound
> in august 2004.
> > > Oh my! This IS a good one! Energize rocks! (certainly
> > not
> > > for the average idiot in the setup dept. though)
> >
> > The only important thing Energize II lacks is clipping,
> > which makes it great to put in front of a basic analog
> > limi-clipper box, like a cheapo Inovonics or Hnat-Hindes.
> >
>

What soundprocessor are CBS FM using before the Omnia? I thought it was an old 8100 Optimod, is that correct??
 
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