AudioVault Question

[radioactiv911]

Hello,

Everytime that we copy .wav files using AV FTP to import wave files, they import really hot. Is there a way to lower the import levels? I didn't see anything in the AV manual. The original wav file is about 75% of the import level.

Thanks,

Jeff

 

[OKCRadioGuy]

We actually just have a shared out folder and import them into our system via that. Anytime it sees something in that folder that's mp3 it ingests it right in. Chuck Hurley is the one that rigged it up for us. You might give him a buzz...

 

[radioactiv911]

Thanks for the reply. That is actually how we do it, and drop the wav file right in as a cut #. Do they go in as normal levels, or do they go in pretty hot, almost clipping?

 

[RadeoEngineer]

It's my understanding that Audiovault has a few places where normalization can be turned on. You're going to need to call for support on where to find this.

 

[Jay77]

Hello,

Everytime that we copy .wav files using AV FTP to import wave files, they import really hot. Is there a way to lower the import levels? I didn't see anything in the AV manual. The original wav file is about 75% of the import level.

Thanks,

Jeff

This can be accomplished using AVImport!

1) File
2) Configure
3) Rules
4) Select The Rule you want to modify
5) Audio Adjust Box at the bottom-check it then click the ... box to open the "Adjust Audio Settings" configuration.

In the "Adjust Audio Settings" configuration there is a setting for "Adjust Gain". Tweak the settings to your liking.

 

[RadeoEngineer]

Hello,

Everytime that we copy .wav files using AV FTP to import wave files, they import really hot. Is there a way to lower the import levels? I didn't see anything in the AV manual. The original wav file is about 75% of the import level.

Thanks,

Jeff

This can be accomplished using AVImport!

1) File
2) Configure
3) Rules
4) Select The Rule you want to modify
5) Audio Adjust Box at the bottom-check it then click the ... box to open the "Adjust Audio Settings" configuration.

In the "Adjust Audio Settings" configuration there is a setting for "Adjust Gain". Tweak the settings to your liking.

Could this be any less intuitive or complicated? Just sayin'.....

 

[Jay77]

Radeo, are you suggesting I should have just kept my mouth shut? :-\

Those are the steps and its simple. What's so complicated about it? I use it on my 4-year old Vault system. I've been using AV since 2000 - AV100 system before the upgrade in 2005.

 

[RadeoEngineer]

Radeo, are you suggesting I should have just kept my mouth shut? :-\

Those are the steps and its simple. What's so complicated about it? I use it on my 4-year old Vault system. I've been using AV since 2000 - AV100 system before the upgrade in 2005.

Absolutely not saying you should have kept your mouth shut. It's commendable that you offered such good assistance. It just strikes me that to have to go through that many steps in a system is too complicated for the average user. I've had a little experience with Audiovault, and I mean a little, and I found it to be very user unfriendly. It requires a lot of time, knowledge and dedication to make it work right, and most people don't have that these days. I've personally seen AV destroy pristine music libraries because of the "processing" parameters in the system. That you understand it and help someone having a problem with it is to be appreciated and respected. No foul intended.

 

[Jay77]

It is a few steps but once it is set up for each rule you're done.

I actually checked out a few other systems and was totally lost. Nexgen looked really difficult. I could not figure out alot of things on my own. AV is intensive but if, you're like me, once you're shown its not big deal. I'm the type that does like to get in and learn, but that Nexgen demo wore me out.

AV works well with the "old skoolers". I have an employee who would never be able to comprehend editing programs like Adobe Audition, Sound Forge, etc. She loves AV because of its simple record feature(s) ala Triple Deck where we can record 3 cassettes, multitrack cds, etc in real time where as with AA, SF, would have to have 3 different instances open thus everything would not be all one screen like with AV.

 

[RadeoEngineer]

Like I said, I have very little experience with AV. I have more with DAD and some with Nexgen. DAD was to me the most straightforward and user friendly. Nexgen was pretty good. My very little experience with AV was that it took a lot of effort to get it to play right, but was pretty solid once everything was locked in. It did damage an otherwise pristine library in transfer because there was some instance of normalization turned on in the system which the person doing the transfer was unaware of. It manifested as midrange clipping distortion. I think we all have our preferences depending on our past experiences and what we know and are comfortable with. I don't doubt that any of the major systems will run fine if programmed by someone that understands them. The AV system I refer to has been solved and runs solidly now.

 

[radioactiv911]

Thanks a lot for the info. I'll give it a try on Monday. We used to run Enco, and it was much easier to configure. Vault Express has more redundancy and once you get it configured and working properly, it really is superior to Enco in my opinion. My only gripe is that you cant edit files once they are in AV, like you used to be able to do in Enco, plus no arrays or touch screen.

 

[Jay77]

I think the touch screen capabilities are coming with Flex. I could be wrong. From what I've seen of Flex it is not built like the dos-type current versions. I too miss a full fledge built-in editor.

I admit I have never used any other automation system outside AudioVault...I take that back...I did use a go-cart/reel to reel/ IGM system. I did demo a few before Av and recently demo the latest versions of Scott/wideorbit, Nexgen, and Citidal's system (I'm drAwing a blank to it's name and it's not Simian). Even after all my research AV is the best for my operation. I have one employee who does not even own a computer...email "what's that?". After some training and step by step instructions this employee knows exactly what to do and has no problems recording long form programs into the system, ripping CDs using AVrip, the trimming and placing sec tones on said programs as well as simple production using AVRps. Anything with downloading and importing files into the system forget it, that's what I do plus maintain and manage the system as well as 4 other systems across the country.

With the systems I researched none of them had a simple recording interface like AV. The way to record long form programs into the system was with editing software like Audition, Sound Forge,etc. No way would I be able to get this employee to understand how to use one of those. Those packages are for computer literate people.

Oops. I didn't mean to go into all of that but that goes to show you that you have to go with systems that integrate into your processes seamlessly.

 

[dx7]

Just my 2-cents -- We run music on hard drive 24/7 on our AudioVault, plus all the spots, liners and promos with some shows live-assist and others voice-tracked -- never had a problem loading stuff in via FTP, and it runs flawlessly for us -- great support from BE, too.

 

[Jay77]

BSI OpX (Cumulus) was the 3rd I researched, not Citidal. Forgive me it was late when I wrote that.

 

[theharleyshow]

AVImport is the way to go to import files directly into the AudioVAULT. You can also adjust your audio using AVFixup if you're on a pre 9.0 version. And there's always the old school way of just loading each cut into AVRPS and going into Trim and Tones to adjust the audio. That's my favorite concept since I find it hard to believe anyone would just put audio on the air without actually listening to it first. I know, it takes time. Most worthwhile things do.