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August 25: This Day in TV History

Just a few random TV related events that happened on August 25. Discuss or comment as you please……

1921: Game show host Monty Hall (Let’s Make a Deal) is born (as Monte Halparin) in Winnipeg, Manitoba.

1931: TV host Regis Philbin is born in New York City.

1934: Philo Farnsworth gives the world's first public demonstration of a complete all-electronic television system at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia.

1948: KFI-TV (later KHJ-TV, now KCAL-TV) debuts in Los Angeles on channel 9. Originally an NBC affiliate, it lost that affiliation just 5 months later when O&O KNBW (now KNBC) signed on. Apart from airing some DuMont shows in the mid-50’s, it remains an independent to this day.

1949: The RCA Dot-Sequential Color System -- a new all-electronic, high-definition, fully compatible color television system -- is announced by RCA to the FCC. The proposed system, which would both fit into existing 6-mHz wide TV channels and not render black-and-white sets obsolete, would be tweaked and adjusted to become the NTSC color system, which ultimately doomed CBS’ competing non-compatible system to the scrap heap of TV history.

1958: The venerable game show Concentration premieres on NBC.

1963: Actress/producer Christine “Moose” McGlade (You Can’t Do That on Television) is born in Canada.

1964: Actor Blair Underwood is born in Tacoma, Washington.

1968: Cook and TV host Rachael Ray is born in Glens Falls, New York.

2003: DTV “on the cheap!” KYES-TV (analog channel 5) becomes the Anchorage, Alaska market’s first DTV signal, broadcasting on UHF channel 22 with just 20 watts. The entire setup costs a paltry $5000: a 100-watt analog translator and a digital exciter purchased on eBay are fed into a temporary 30-foot tower on the roof of the hillside home of the station’s president. Despite the low ERP, the hillside location and the compact geography of greater Anchorage enables the “El Cheapo” setup to produce a viewable digital signal throughout the city.

(Just a little featurette I hope to do as time permits…..don’t expect it every single day. It’s an entirely random selection based on a quick Net search, and is not meant to be comprehensive. So, don’t post nasty messages about “you forgot THIS” or “how could you not mention THAT?” Do so, and I’ll just take my keyboard and go home…..) ;)
 
Stanislav said:
1948: KFI-TV (later KHJ-TV, now KCAL-TV) debuts in Los Angeles on channel 9. Originally an NBC affiliate, it lost that affiliation just 5 months later when O&O KNBW (now KNBC) signed on. Apart from airing some DuMont shows in the mid-50’s, it remains an independent to this day.
Wasn't KNBC's original callsign KNBH, or did it have four total since signing on in 1949 (the other being KRCA from 1954 to 1962)?
 
wbhist said:
Stanislav said:
1948: KFI-TV (later KHJ-TV, now KCAL-TV) debuts in Los Angeles on channel 9. Originally an NBC affiliate, it lost that affiliation just 5 months later when O&O KNBW (now KNBC) signed on. Apart from airing some DuMont shows in the mid-50’s, it remains an independent to this day.
Wasn't KNBC's original callsign KNBH, or did it have four total since signing on in 1949 (the other being KRCA from 1954 to 1962)?

You are correct -- another typo on my part.
 
KCAL-TV is CBS O&O but operates most of the time as an indie. However, they share local news and other studios with KCBS-TV and newcasts on both channels are done with the same anchors and staff. Occasionally, during the regular TV season, KCAL will take KCBS network shows when the latter is doing local sporting events.
 
ercjncpr said:
KCAL-TV is CBS O&O but operates most of the time as an indie. However, they share local news and other studios with KCBS-TV and newcasts on both channels are done with the same anchors and staff. Occasionally, during the regular TV season, KCAL will take KCBS network shows when the latter is doing local sporting events.

I think Stanislav meant KCAL was an "indie" in terms of programming. Before being owned by CBS, it was owned by Disney; prior to that it was KHJ-TV, owned by RKO General for many years

Prior to relaxation of the station ownership limits, it was not unusual for network O&Os or affiliates to have reciprocal arrangements with local indies (that they did not own) to run network programming when the O&O had pre-empted network programming to run something local -off network sports or coverage of local events, etc.

In the Bay Area, as far back as the 1970s, KBHK-44 (then an indie owned by Kaiser) would run CBS prime-time programming when CBS affiliate KPIX was pre-empting it. Now, both stations are owned by CBS, though KBCW-44 (as its now called), runs the CW.
 
About LA's KHJ-TV....of course everyone knows about the fanous KHJ radio...besides the Real Don Steele and Robert W. Morgan how often was KHJ radio promoted on KHJ-TV or vice versa ?

Despite the fact that many well known radio stations had TV sisters, I have heard a lot of them for one reason or another didn't allow one to promote the other. Why is that?

For example..Buffalo's WKBW-TV would often be promoted on WKBW radio yet in NYC I don't think ( I could be wrong ) "Musicradio 77" WABC , rare did they get a mention on WABC-TV? A friend of mine who lives on Long Island...she was saying that other an a commerical here or there, WNBC-TV didn't do a whole lot to promote WNBC radio either.
 
mleach said:
About LA's KHJ-TV....of course everyone knows about the fanous KHJ radio...besides the Real Don Steele and Robert W. Morgan how often was KHJ radio promoted on KHJ-TV or vice versa ?

...quite frequently in the earlier years of "Boss Radio," in fact. I seem to recall the 5:00 P.M. program on KHJ-TV for years was hosted by Sam Riddle, the nighttime jock at KHJ radio (Kam Nelson was his TV co-host for a while, IIRC)...
 
mleach said:
Despite the fact that many well known radio stations had TV sisters, I have heard a lot of them for one reason or another didn't allow one to promote the other. Why is that?

For example..Buffalo's WKBW-TV would often be promoted on WKBW radio yet in NYC I don't think ( I could be wrong ) "Musicradio 77" WABC , rare did they get a mention on WABC-TV? A friend of mine who lives on Long Island...she was saying that other an a commerical here or there, WNBC-TV didn't do a whole lot to promote WNBC radio either.
There was also a spotty record of promoting radio sister stations on TV sign-offs. Take New York City. (Please.) WNBC-TV, for example, up to the late 1960's, sometimes promoted its AM and FM outlets and sometimes didn't. WOR-TV had a nightly blurb for WOR Radio, 710 on your dial, during its sign-offs. WNEW-TV promoted "1130 on your radio" before, but not on, their sign-offs. And in the 1970's, WPIX's promotion of its FM outlet still sticks in my head: "May we suggest if you'd like to spend some time listening to the best in contemporary music, you tune to WPIX-FM, 102 on your FM dial." Which, from what I could tell, never changed, even as the FM station seemed to change its format every few minutes, especially in the latter half of the '70's. (Apparently, announcer Bill Biery's sign-off was pre-recorded, as it sounded the same night after night.)

However, neither WCBS-TV nor WABC-TV made mention of their radio sisters in their sign-offs.

As for older stations . . . during Channel 13's run as WNTA-TV, they mentioned its AM sister station (970 kHz, or kc. as it was worded then) on their sign-offs.

Probably they didn't want to call attention to the radio stations because of their music format (i.e. WKBW and WABC radio were both Top 40 powerhouses "in the day"); or in WCBS-TV's case, it may've been due to their only being off the air for anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour, and they never "cut the carrier." Even though, since 1967, WCBS-AM has been an all-news competitor to 1010 WINS.
 
A few months ago, I received on CD a number of audio clips from a friend who is/has been a voiceover announcer for various TV stations over the years,,Among the clips he sent was an old WLWC-TV 4 sign-off from the 1950's or 60's..They suggested listening to WLW 700 Cincinnati..Both Crosley/Avco stations.

From about 1956-61 "Big" Wilson (and he was) was used constantly on KYW-TV 3/AM 1100. He did a Morning radio show (6-10 I thonk) hosted the afternoon movie on Channel 3 (1-2:50PM) and Weather reports (6:40/11:10)..He was the most popular personmality in Cleveland at the time..
 
Tim L said:
From about 1956-61 "Big" Wilson (and he was) was used constantly on KYW-TV 3/AM 1100. He did a Morning radio show (6-10 I thonk) hosted the afternoon movie on Channel 3 (1-2:50PM) and Weather reports (6:40/11:10)..He was the most popular personmality in Cleveland at the time..

...and, of course, Big eventually went to WNBC in New York, where he was the top-rated midday program host for several early '70s Arbitron books. NBC Radio also had him host Monitor; in fact, he was one of the two hosts for that program the weekend it left the air in early 1975 (John Bartholomew Tucker was the host of the last three hours of that day). Big eventually went to Miami, did something called The BIG Movie for one of the local TV stations there, and eventually got the job as voice-over announcer for Jack Horkheimer: STAR HUSTLER. Big had that gig for several years after he died, thanks to digital technology...
 
Ultimajock said:
Tim L said:
From about 1956-61 "Big" Wilson (and he was) was used constantly on KYW-TV 3/AM 1100. He did a Morning radio show (6-10 I thonk) hosted the afternoon movie on Channel 3 (1-2:50PM) and Weather reports (6:40/11:10)..He was the most popular personmality in Cleveland at the time..

...and, of course, Big eventually went to WNBC in New York, where he was the top-rated midday program host for several early '70s Arbitron books. NBC Radio also had him host Monitor; in fact, he was one of the two hosts for that program the weekend it left the air in early 1975 (John Bartholomew Tucker was the host of the last three hours of that day). Big eventually went to Miami, did something called The BIG Movie for one of the local TV stations there, and eventually got the job as voice-over announcer for Jack Horkheimer: STAR HUSTLER. Big had that gig for several years after he died, thanks to digital technology...

Hmmm...the things you learn about people on this Board...:) I used to check out that "...Star Hustler..." thing every "once in a while" ;) I didn't even KNOW that Big was involved in that - up until now, I just thought that Big was a NAME DJ in NYC Radio (and he WAS....)

Andrea
 
wbhist said:
mleach said:
Despite the fact that many well known radio stations had TV sisters, I have heard a lot of them for one reason or another didn't allow one to promote the other. Why is that?

For example..Buffalo's WKBW-TV would often be promoted on WKBW radio yet in NYC I don't think ( I could be wrong ) "Musicradio 77" WABC , rare did they get a mention on WABC-TV? A friend of mine who lives on Long Island...she was saying that other an a commerical here or there, WNBC-TV didn't do a whole lot to promote WNBC radio either.
There was also a spotty record of promoting radio sister stations on TV sign-offs. Take New York City. (Please.) WNBC-TV, for example, up to the late 1960's, sometimes promoted its AM and FM outlets and sometimes didn't. WOR-TV had a nightly blurb for WOR Radio, 710 on your dial, during its sign-offs. WNEW-TV promoted "1130 on your radio" before, but not on, their sign-offs. And in the 1970's, WPIX's promotion of its FM outlet still sticks in my head: "May we suggest if you'd like to spend some time listening to the best in contemporary music, you tune to WPIX-FM, 102 on your FM dial." Which, from what I could tell, never changed, even as the FM station seemed to change its format every few minutes, especially in the latter half of the '70's. (Apparently, announcer Bill Biery's sign-off was pre-recorded, as it sounded the same night after night.)

However, neither WCBS-TV nor WABC-TV made mention of their radio sisters in their sign-offs.

As for older stations . . . during Channel 13's run as WNTA-TV, they mentioned its AM sister station (970 kHz, or kc. as it was worded then) on their sign-offs.

Probably they didn't want to call attention to the radio stations because of their music format (i.e. WKBW and WABC radio were both Top 40 powerhouses "in the day"); or in WCBS-TV's case, it may've been due to their only being off the air for anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour, and they never "cut the carrier." Even though, since 1967, WCBS-AM has been an all-news competitor to 1010 WINS.

Very interesting about those sign-offs. I wonder if Buffalo's WKBW-TV did the same with WKBW radio or WGR and WBEN for that matter since those stations had radio sisters as well that shared the same calls?

Back in the late 70s/early 80s when I was listening to WKBW radio, WKBW-TV was promoted a LOT on KB ( not sure if it was the other way around even though I do seem to recall reading elsewhere that KB's morning jock Danny Naverth did weather for WKBW's Eyewitness News for a time ).

Another interesting thing about WKBW..I can remember a few times when the jock would play a song they would tie that with a show that aired on WKBW-TV such as "..Blondie on KB Radio 15..oh BTW..you can check her out later on today on The John Davidson Show at 4 (?) on channel 7 !!"

The fuuny thing about hearing all of those ads for WKBW-TV on WKBW radio...Even though I lived in maryland at the time I knew what WKBW-TV's Fall line-up would be long before I knew the same with the local DC and Baltimore stations.
 
andreajesus said:
Ultimajock said:
Tim L said:
From about 1956-61 "Big" Wilson (and he was) was used constantly on KYW-TV 3/AM 1100. He did a Morning radio show (6-10 I thonk) hosted the afternoon movie on Channel 3 (1-2:50PM) and Weather reports (6:40/11:10)..He was the most popular personmality in Cleveland at the time..

...and, of course, Big eventually went to WNBC in New York, where he was the top-rated midday program host for several early '70s Arbitron books. NBC Radio also had him host Monitor; in fact, he was one of the two hosts for that program the weekend it left the air in early 1975 (John Bartholomew Tucker was the host of the last three hours of that day). Big eventually went to Miami, did something called The BIG Movie for one of the local TV stations there, and eventually got the job as voice-over announcer for Jack Horkheimer: STAR HUSTLER. Big had that gig for several years after he died, thanks to digital technology...

Hmmm...the things you learn about people on this Board...:) I used to check out that "...Star Hustler..." thing every "once in a while" ;) I didn't even KNOW that Big was involved in that - up until now, I just thought that Big was a NAME DJ in NYC Radio (and he WAS....)

Andrea

I see in this morning's paper that Jack Horkheimer has just passed away.
 
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