Is anyone aware of a way to automate an internet stream with Audio Vault? Is there a way to have the software try to reconnect if the stream drops?
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Automation
- Thread starter ajhenderson
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Not sure if this is at all helpful, but if it's not specifically an AudioVault question, Prophet NexGen has what they call "virtual" stations that take their cues from whatever hardware you wish that is associated with the actual station server. Usually it's a job on NexGen that's relegated to a Recording Server or random workstation depending on where you are. The other option is to "trick" a workstation into thinking it's an audio server on Prophet.
I know this is useless on advice for Audio Vault. Hope this helps!
I know this is useless on advice for Audio Vault. Hope this helps!
I'm still unclear of the original question. You can originate any programming with any automation system... however if a stream drops, that's not the job of the automation system. That's like asking Audio Vault to restart the transmitter if something happens.
Can't automate engineering...or IT, for that matter. Still need a human, thank god.
Can't automate engineering...or IT, for that matter. Still need a human, thank god.
It seems a lot of engineers have no idea how to set it up with automation. You're right about it dropping, although you could set it up to restart every few minutes or so. Of course, you would only do it on a nothing station at 2 in the morning.
First, what is this for?
Is it "just" a stream or is it a feed to a real station?
The critical part is where is the stream and what are they receiving it with?
If a Barix box at the end of the road then use it's function of looking for 3 streaming ports if one drops.
Redundancy brother....
At the studio you can place several encoding streams with your programming.
One way to make sure the stream is always there.
1) Windows Media Encoder (our original stream) fed to dyndns.org Dyndns also has a function to replace a stream with another when your main stream dies and checks the stream every 5 minutes. IP 1 for your receiver (dyndns.org)
2) Ogg Vorbis mp3 shout at me.com is fed to multiple connections through shoutatme.
IP 2 for your receiver (shoutatme.com)
3) Another Barix at the transmitter site available for multiple connections. IP 3 for your receiver. (also a dyndns fed stream)
Other redundant issues :
Stream 1 Comcast Cable
Stream 2 Indiana Bell DSL
Stream 3 Verizon DSL
Originally we ran everything point to point until we lost IP a few times (even with static).
Added dyndns and this helped but we also ran into an every now and then problem. Added backup computer for a second dyndns stream.
Lost cable, added a second encoder on AT&T. Have lost shout at me once and had a comcast error once (after a storm).
Indiana Bell offers the 6g connection and at 600 feet from the CO we are hoping the wiring of every home with fiber making incredible speeds available will relate to higher syncronous speeds.
Two discrete comcast connections. (Different addresses) Don't know why but this hasn't been the godsend we thought.
Verizon is as reliable as anything and at the transmitter site no goobers touch it.
Each decoder from barix will search for a working stream. Now the confusion comes when we are adding another network. Big red lables with the IP on all the barix decoders.
One weekend weekend jocks kid loaded aim and was blogging on myspace. (Stopped the stream cause it slowed down her avatar or something). Notes don't mean anything. Computers have to be vailable for you to check but not available for kids to touch.
All computers are belkin ups connected so glitches don't cause problems.
Experimenting with a new netgear dual gigabit router. Switches traffic between two wans - Indiana Bell and Comcast.
Jim at DJB has the stlware. Works well but our computer keeps getting hit by lightning.
Anyone using Hughes on their remote (no dsl or cable ) sites? What is the cost? Thanks Howard, Hughes. Made nationwide Walter Cronkite possible.
Is it "just" a stream or is it a feed to a real station?
The critical part is where is the stream and what are they receiving it with?
If a Barix box at the end of the road then use it's function of looking for 3 streaming ports if one drops.
Redundancy brother....
At the studio you can place several encoding streams with your programming.
One way to make sure the stream is always there.
1) Windows Media Encoder (our original stream) fed to dyndns.org Dyndns also has a function to replace a stream with another when your main stream dies and checks the stream every 5 minutes. IP 1 for your receiver (dyndns.org)
2) Ogg Vorbis mp3 shout at me.com is fed to multiple connections through shoutatme.
IP 2 for your receiver (shoutatme.com)
3) Another Barix at the transmitter site available for multiple connections. IP 3 for your receiver. (also a dyndns fed stream)
Other redundant issues :
Stream 1 Comcast Cable
Stream 2 Indiana Bell DSL
Stream 3 Verizon DSL
Originally we ran everything point to point until we lost IP a few times (even with static).
Added dyndns and this helped but we also ran into an every now and then problem. Added backup computer for a second dyndns stream.
Lost cable, added a second encoder on AT&T. Have lost shout at me once and had a comcast error once (after a storm).
Indiana Bell offers the 6g connection and at 600 feet from the CO we are hoping the wiring of every home with fiber making incredible speeds available will relate to higher syncronous speeds.
Two discrete comcast connections. (Different addresses) Don't know why but this hasn't been the godsend we thought.
Verizon is as reliable as anything and at the transmitter site no goobers touch it.
Each decoder from barix will search for a working stream. Now the confusion comes when we are adding another network. Big red lables with the IP on all the barix decoders.
One weekend weekend jocks kid loaded aim and was blogging on myspace. (Stopped the stream cause it slowed down her avatar or something). Notes don't mean anything. Computers have to be vailable for you to check but not available for kids to touch.
All computers are belkin ups connected so glitches don't cause problems.
Experimenting with a new netgear dual gigabit router. Switches traffic between two wans - Indiana Bell and Comcast.
Jim at DJB has the stlware. Works well but our computer keeps getting hit by lightning.
Anyone using Hughes on their remote (no dsl or cable ) sites? What is the cost? Thanks Howard, Hughes. Made nationwide Walter Cronkite possible.
KJCB:
You've got two different systems.
AudioVault = Content Generation and Playout
Streaming Encoders/Distribution Servers = Program Distribution
The systems should be independent. I know some automation programs offer a feature of sourcing an audio datastream directly from an encoder embedded in the playout system. Mediatouch permits you to create a wma stream. However, I don't know of anyone using that or any other feature. The reason being that you want redundancy and you want to keep a failure isolated so that you can troubleshoot and fix it more easily.
Barix box Instreamers (and shoutcast encoders, too) will automatically reconnect to the distribution (shoutcast/icecast) servers if the connection is lost.
You've got two different systems.
AudioVault = Content Generation and Playout
Streaming Encoders/Distribution Servers = Program Distribution
The systems should be independent. I know some automation programs offer a feature of sourcing an audio datastream directly from an encoder embedded in the playout system. Mediatouch permits you to create a wma stream. However, I don't know of anyone using that or any other feature. The reason being that you want redundancy and you want to keep a failure isolated so that you can troubleshoot and fix it more easily.
Barix box Instreamers (and shoutcast encoders, too) will automatically reconnect to the distribution (shoutcast/icecast) servers if the connection is lost.
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Sgeirk said:Can't automate engineering...or IT, for that matter. Still need a human, thank god.
Actually you can automate some aspects of engineering. Whether or not it can be done in the original poster's method, I don't know. But as far as terrestrial radio goes, you can automate pretty much all of the basic transmitter operations. Probably not with AV though, but then again I've never worked with that program. ;D
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