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B 96 now adds DHT??

BrianThaB

BrianThaB

Why now? The song peaked in August. Does not make any sense but this is what I am talking about. Music presentation is all over the board.

Next they will probably add Weezer to confuse the audience and Kelly Clarkson new song a month after it probably drops from #1 to not sound so "urban."

I don't understand why they add a hit well after it peaks rather than break a new hit. Adding DHT now just makes the station sound foolish. Comments?
 
> Why now? The song peaked in August. Does not make any sense
> but this is what I am talking about. Music presentation is
> all over the board.
>
> Next they will probably add Weezer to confuse the audience
> and Kelly Clarkson new song a month after it probably drops
> from #1 to not sound so "urban."
>
> I don't understand why they add a hit well after it peaks
> rather than break a new hit. Adding DHT now just makes the
> station sound foolish. Comments?
>
They did that with Green Day earlier this year.<P ID="signature">______________

AIM: JeremyA1069</P>
 
> Why now? The song peaked in August. Does not make any sense
> but this is what I am talking about. Music presentation is
> all over the board.
>
> Next they will probably add Weezer to confuse the audience
> and Kelly Clarkson new song a month after it probably drops
> from #1 to not sound so "urban."
>
> I don't understand why they add a hit well after it peaks
> rather than break a new hit. Adding DHT now just makes the
> station sound foolish. Comments?
>


BrianThaB.....haven't seen ya post here in a long time. How ya been??
 
> > Why now? The song peaked in August. Does not make any
> sense
> > but this is what I am talking about. Music presentation is
>
> > all over the board.
> >
> > Next they will probably add Weezer to confuse the audience
>
> > and Kelly Clarkson new song a month after it probably
> drops
> > from #1 to not sound so "urban."
> >
> > I don't understand why they add a hit well after it peaks
> > rather than break a new hit. Adding DHT now just makes the
>
> > station sound foolish. Comments?
> >
> They did that with Green Day earlier this year.
>

B96 hasn't broken a song in ages. They are always behind. They did the same thing with DJ Sammy.
 
And that is why Kiss will catch them. If they're smart they'll realize those Hispanics aren't coming back and it would be wise to add some uptempo tracks to draw distinctions between them and Kiss. As it stands, B96 isn't flat, it's falling and Kiss isn't rising, they're flat but it's that flatness that's allowing them to stay where they are as B96 falls.

> > > Why now? The song peaked in August. Does not make any
> > sense
> > > but this is what I am talking about. Music presentation
> is
> >
> > > all over the board.
> > >
> > > Next they will probably add Weezer to confuse the
> audience
> >
> > > and Kelly Clarkson new song a month after it probably
> > drops
> > > from #1 to not sound so "urban."
> > >
> > > I don't understand why they add a hit well after it
> peaks
> > > rather than break a new hit. Adding DHT now just makes
> the
> >
> > > station sound foolish. Comments?
> > >
> > They did that with Green Day earlier this year.
> >
>
> B96 hasn't broken a song in ages. They are always behind.
> They did the same thing with DJ Sammy.
>
 
> Which version are they playing
>
I was thinking the same thing. I kinda like the version they play on xm. The one kiss fm plays is waaay to slow. It's ok, but not as good as the dance one.
 
Re: Who cares if is it Urban or CHR...

> Are they moving in a more top 40/chr direction?
>

I can just imagine a couple of listeners debating what the format of B-96 is.

"Oh, it is really uban."

"No it's CHR."

"Get outta here. It's urban."

Listeners don't care what or how insiders label a format. Either a station does something they like, or not. Period. Who cares what the format is called.
 
> > They did that with Green Day earlier this year.
> >
>
> B96 hasn't broken a song in ages. They are always behind.
> They did the same thing with DJ Sammy.
>
I remember them playing Nickelback...and back quite aways they played Iris from the goo goo dolls
 
Re: Who cares if is it Urban or CHR...

> Who cares what the format is called.
>

Advertisers.
 
Its RHYTHMIC CHR, CHR/Rhythmic, Rhythmic Hit

> Are they moving in a more top 40/chr direction?
>
with an occational rock or pop song thrown in whenever it becomes a huge hit.<P ID="signature">______________

AIM: JeremyA1069</P>
 
> > Which version are they playing
> >
> I was thinking the same thing. I kinda like the version they
> play on xm. The one kiss fm plays is waaay to slow. It's ok,
> but not as good as the dance one.
>
If its the dance version (I believe the dance one is the original) then it fits their format perfectly. Rhythmic CHR can include dance. WLYD "Wild 99-7" in Green Bay occationally mixed in Dirty Vegas, Da Rude, DJ Sammy, etc back in 2002 when they started.

But if its the Edmee's Unplugged Vocal Edit, it may be a different story.<P ID="signature">______________

AIM: JeremyA1069</P>
 
And your point is what?

> I don't understand why they add a hit well after it peaks
> rather than break a new hit. Adding DHT now just makes the
> station sound foolish. Comments?

It "peaked" in Chicago or nationally?

What you're suggesting is that Chicago follow the national charts
and thats it.

A good friend of mine was a PD in a market, that back in the 80s,
broke a record - off his gut feel - played it to death - became
number one in the market way ahead of the national charts.

By the time it broke nationally and became top ten, he was barely
playing it anymore. The record: Walk Like An Egyptian by The Bangles.
It didn't matter. He wasn't programming to the country, just to his
market. He was early, B96 is late. But their listeners wouldn't know
the difference.

If its a great song, it will do good. And the DHT song is pretty good!





>
 
Re: Who cares if is it Urban or CHR...

> > Who cares what the format is called.
> >
>
> Advertisers.

Not really. Advertisers go by the very broad definitions Arbitron gives for stations themselves to pick. Advertisers mostly tell what station they will use based on ratings. If they are after a specific quality, such as ethnicity, sex or income levels, they will do the necessary sorts for thier version of the Arbitron software.

Nere is no "National Format Review Board" that officializes what format a station has. Advertisers get the format data either out of Arbitron or from the station or its reps. They really don/'t spend _any_ time splitting hairs about lines of demarcation.
 
Re: Who cares if is it Urban or CHR...

OK David. Thanks

> > Are they moving in a more top 40/chr direction?
> >
>
> I can just imagine a couple of listeners debating what the
> format of B-96 is.
>
> "Oh, it is really uban."
>
> "No it's CHR."
>
> "Get outta here. It's urban."
>
> Listeners don't care what or how insiders label a format.
> Either a station does something they like, or not. Period.
> Who cares what the format is called.
>
 
Re: And your point is what?

Your analogy only applies if no one else in the market is playing the song or if no one is aware of it. If that's the case we can barf up hit records that were never played in chicago for the last 15 years, claim they're new and break them too. In this case, Kiss is playing DHT and many people are aware of it so your analogy is off.

> > I don't understand why they add a hit well after it peaks
> > rather than break a new hit. Adding DHT now just makes the
>
> > station sound foolish. Comments?
>
> It "peaked" in Chicago or nationally?
>
> What you're suggesting is that Chicago follow the national
> charts
> and thats it.
>
> A good friend of mine was a PD in a market, that back in the
> 80s,
> broke a record - off his gut feel - played it to death -
> became
> number one in the market way ahead of the national charts.
>
>
> By the time it broke nationally and became top ten, he was
> barely
> playing it anymore. The record: Walk Like An Egyptian by
> The Bangles.
> It didn't matter. He wasn't programming to the country,
> just to his
> market. He was early, B96 is late. But their listeners
> wouldn't know
> the difference.
>
> If its a great song, it will do good. And the DHT song is
> pretty good!
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
 
Re: And your point is what?

You missed a key sentence in my response, ahead of my analogy:

> > It "peaked" in Chicago or nationally?

Even with that said, there's still no issue. So 103.5 had already
been on it. BFD. A good song is a good song.

Since you brought it up, there have been a handful of cases of songs
rising from the dead months - or years later after originally being
declared a "stiff". These were great recorded originally overlooked
that inovative programmers (Guy Zapoleon being one such programmer)
found, tried on the air - and made a hit out of. Not every old song
qualifies - it has to hold up musically to the current chart product
to work (among other things)...
 
Re: Who cares if is it Urban or CHR...

> Not really. Advertisers go by the very broad definitions
> Arbitron gives for stations themselves to pick. Advertisers
> mostly tell what station they will use based on ratings. If
> they are after a specific quality, such as ethnicity, sex or
> income levels, they will do the necessary sorts for thier
> version of the Arbitron software.
>
> Nere is no "National Format Review Board" that officializes
> what format a station has. Advertisers get the format data
> either out of Arbitron or from the station or its reps. They
> really don/'t spend _any_ time splitting hairs about lines
> of demarcation.
>
so does that make B96 more urban or chr?
 
Re: Who cares if is it Urban or CHR...

> > Not really. Advertisers go by the very broad definitions
> > Arbitron gives for stations themselves to pick.
> Advertisers
> > mostly tell what station they will use based on ratings.
> If
> > they are after a specific quality, such as ethnicity, sex
> or
> > income levels, they will do the necessary sorts for thier
> > version of the Arbitron software.
> >
> > Nere is no "National Format Review Board" that
> officializes
> > what format a station has. Advertisers get the format data
>
> > either out of Arbitron or from the station or its reps.
> They
> > really don/'t spend _any_ time splitting hairs about
> lines
> > of demarcation.
> >
> so does that make B96 more urban or chr?

Who the hell cares?
>
 
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