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B104 about to be challenged!

106.9 filed for the license to cover and program test authority on the new B1 signal.

So expect it to fire up as soon as it gets PTA authorization from the FCC.
 
Wolf get's a poor grade in my book in part because a "new" country station should not be playing 20 year old Garth singles! Regardless of what they forced others to do it is still poorly executed. I will say this comparing them side by side...

105.1 ...Personality, unpolished
106.9 ...No personality, polished
 
wow..you really dont know anything about radio. My guess they are playing familiar hits to attract listeners. It sounds like a smaller tighter rotation too. Thats how you start a radio station. it is called "buliding cume". Again they have the best imaging package that i have heard in the market EVER, I am very impressed. Also 106 actually sounds aweful. It should though, they put it together in 1 hr. The imaging is very poor. I cant wait to watch this battle between WOLF and B...very exciting. Say goodbye to "YC" soon. Rich had his fun this weekend
 
I can't see CC flanking itself for very long. A well-executed and well-imaged country format will slice away a few folks from B. That's not in CC's longterm interests.

CC recently let go the PD on Power, and, as someone else noted, is getting more power for 106.9.

The only reason to invest in more signal for 106.9 is to reach a wider audience with a broader format (again, all the caveats apply -- never been a PD, normally have my head up my rectum, etc...). CC got to pull a two-fer here: They were going to have to stunt the station anyway to get to a new format. They used the stunt, set up in stealth mode, to earn themselves some publicity and mess with the new kid on the block.

If that's what this is (again, apply all caveats), it's damned smart.
 
"wow..you really dont know anything about radio. My guess they are playing familiar hits to attract listeners. It sounds like a smaller tighter rotation too. Thats how you start a radio station. it is called "buliding cume". Again they have the best imaging package that i have heard in the market EVER, I am very impressed. Also 106 actually sounds aweful. It should though, they put it together in 1 hr. The imaging is very poor. I cant wait to watch this battle between WOLF and B...very exciting. Say goodbye to "YC" soon. Rich had his fun this weekend"

Your a fool! Familiar hits yes, they are playing way too many titles to start with and again, a hot NEW country station does not and should not play 20 year old Garth songs! The imaging is decent, I guess they assembled the Chuck Geiger written imaging in house. Today I heard four sweepers connected to make one un focused waste of in between song space! Best imaging you've heard ever? Wow...You don't know good! Yes the imaging for 106.9 lacks zest but it is a heck of a lot more polished that WOLF's by a country mile!
 
Ahhh, the Syracuse board, back to form with a good throw down. All that's missing is Biggus and Genius going mano a mano. By the way guys, the (former) East German judges take points off for spelling and syntactical errors and the mods have been known to step in from time to time, so make sure those ad hominem attacks don't involve mothers and sisters. Party on, dudes (and dudettes)!
 
TheBigA said:
bartstar said:
What's Professor Rick Wright to do?

That's funny. I think Lauber was a student of Wright's. Not a fun meeting to inform one's former professor that his gig is over.

Let met get this straight.... Professor Rick Wright was on-the-air on WPHR? Anyone have an aircheck of him... he was one of my favorite professors at Newhouse.
 
taylorjsdad said:
Professor Rick Wright was on-the-air on WPHR? Anyone have an aircheck of him... he was one of my favorite professors at Newhouse.

He did Sunday afternoons. Old skool, baby.
 
Haven't seen any mentions of this on here yet, but Power 106.9 was back in place as of 8 this morning.

http://www.cnyradio.com/2009/08/31/clear-channel-restores-urban-format-on-106-9/

Even the website is finally back to normal. Joel Delmonico was on Reith today explaining they were just "having some fun" to see how many people noticed as they get ready to countdown to the new tower. Yeah, I'm sure that was THE reason... just as sure as the moon's made of cheese.

I think it was a pretty dumb move on CC's part. As Dave Bullard noted, it's stupid for CC to steal from its own candy store. Sure, I can agree there's the thinking, "if people are going to check out a new station, it might as well be one in the same family." But it's not like Foxfur did a ton of outside promotion telling people about the switch. Chances are the only people who knew about Wolf were those who were listening to Radio Disney, those who heard by word of mouth, or from reading about it online or in the paper. CC flipping to Power only drew MORE attention to the entire situation, very counterintuitive. And it made them look a bit desperate, smashing it all together less than 2 hours after 105.1 launched. Probably helped Wolf more than it protected B104.

What else doesn't make sense? 106.9 is NOT between 104.7 and 105.1 on the dial, so it's not like people were going to find 106.9 by accident and think they found the right station. Next, why Power? I'm guessing the urban community was thrilled to see their station was considered the "expendable" one for CC's little radio experiments. Last but not least, why just a weekend? As if CC didn't already show it's concerned about the competition, it's like they suddenly realized how bad it looks and decided to sober up. If they were hoping to intimidate Foxfur by launching YC on Friday, chances are they only had Foxfur laughing at them this morning.

ROCKTHEMIC said:
a hot NEW country station does not and should not play 20 year old Garth songs!

I don't think Wolf's name necessarily means it's all "new" as in, new songs... but new as in a new approach, a new station. When there's only one country station in the market, usually the only complaint from listeners is that they don't play enough "classic" country because they're just concentrating on current hits, like a CHR. But since they're the only country station, they don't really have to budge, because people will still listen anyway. WFRG in Utica took notice when Clear Channel launched Bob 102.5 years ago -- they saw Bob playing more classics, so Frog started playing more classics. Now that Bob is long gone, Frog's classics are basically limited to a 2-song feature in the midday show.

Basically, any newcomer in a market with one country station will HAVE to play a significant amount of older titles, for that "wow" factor listeners get when they hear a good song they haven't heard in forever... some of the same appeal that comes with listening to Movin (just in the concept in general, not getting into the fact Movin plays certain oldies way too often).

In the end, I think CC's best strategy would be to simply tweak the playlist on B. They should have never done anything with 106.9. It just made no sense at all. Even if they were going to keep YC going long-term, it would erode B more than Wolf. While they look sheepish by taking YC back off the air, it was a good move to discontinue it sooner rather than later. If CC simply plays more classic titles on B, that's the best they can do to keep curious listeners from tuning away.

CC needs to remember, that B is the "king of the mountain" when it comes to country radio in Syracuse. Defense requires less effort than offense, but it has to be done properly. Gotta keep the poker face intact, and resist the urge to make sudden kneejerk reactions or to produce liners comparing yourself to the competition.

Wolf, on the other hand, has its work cut out for itself. Wolf needs to get its name out there, to make loyal B listeners aware that it exists. Then, it needs to make sure listeners who sample have a reason to keep coming back. The minute-long narrative with the history of Syracuse back when it was just Native Americans and wolves, is not necessary. It's a nice effort, something different... but when you're trying to hook listeners, you need to have high-testing songs going as often as possible. Minimize the liners, minimize the commercials.

On the plus side, Wolf's newness means it doesn't have many clients, so the stopsets will be shorter and less frequent for now. They also have Skip Clark, the former music director from B, so he has some insight into the Clear Channel playbook. But (granted, I'm not an engineer), B still has a 50,000-watt tower compared to Wolf's 33,000 watts. Even though Wolf's transmission height is 35 meters higher, there are parts of Madison County (the county where Wolf's transmitter is located) where the station gets fuzzy, but B104 still comes in crystal clear from Oswego County.

Still, it seems a worthy competitor, and we'll see what happens when they add personalities. It could take awhile to get even a 5 or 6 share, but if they aim well at B's weaknesses, they could get some modest numbers. Being live and local at times when B is not (basically anytime outside of AM drive) will help, along with the usual suite of local contesting, frequent remotes and appearances at other big (non-remote) events. It's just a matter of how much Foxfur is willing spend to fight this war. Simply being a competitor where there was formerly no competition will get you a certain degree of success -- but it takes cash to be a "real" threat. And, considering the financial headlines, it's probably the best time to try to compete with CC... the big guys can play a strong defense, but those once-bottomless pockets aren't so deep anymore. For example, I doubt they'd go as far as putting live/local jocks back in the air on middays and afternoons just because Wolf is doing it.
 
Nice commentary BobRoss...how ever I disagree...on one front!

I don't think Wolf's name necessarily means it's all "new" as in, new songs... but new as in a new approach, a new station. When there's only one country station in the market, usually the only complaint from listeners is that they don't play enough "classic" country because they're just concentrating on current hits, like a CHR.

They are attacking the younger end of the taget demo...at least they want to but don't know how to (source inside).

I think they should be hammering the New country songs, like a new chr, like 80-100 titles for a short while to reveal their tempo/ attitude and desire to attrack this younger life group. Once you've hooked them them loosen things up a bit and then hit them over the head with solid content and fresh new personalities!


The last comment: for now; the people involved are the same folks involved with Movin and that hasn't exactly taken Syracuse by storm so wait and see...it head down that same road...type it in your gps or look for it on your radio road map...it's called "Lame Blvd"!
 
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