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- Thread starter MarquisP4
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> Their research probably suggested that it would be best to
> hold-off on it until it was a TOP 10 smash nationwide. I
> don't know. I don't do research for Y-100. I was merely
> comparing the Y-100 of the late-1990s versus the Y-100 of
> today and then using the Cascada song as an example of what
> the old Y-100 would have done versus what the new Y-100 has
> done.
That sounds to me more like consultancy than research. "Hold off on it until it hits big, then skyrocket it to power rotation"... only a consultant would attempt to make that make sense. If they're doing research, they certainly aren't doing it on South Floridians.
> I still consider Y-100 to be my favourite South Florida
> radio station. In fact it's the only terrestrial station
> that I listen to here.
Y-100 is definitely still my favorite SoFla station. Power 96 lost that title when they pulled dance altogether, though I still listened for a while after that. But you're absolutely right, Major... they're not at all the Y we used to know and love. If they still were, they'd probably be killing in the books right now.<P ID="signature">______________
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> hold-off on it until it was a TOP 10 smash nationwide. I
> don't know. I don't do research for Y-100. I was merely
> comparing the Y-100 of the late-1990s versus the Y-100 of
> today and then using the Cascada song as an example of what
> the old Y-100 would have done versus what the new Y-100 has
> done.
That sounds to me more like consultancy than research. "Hold off on it until it hits big, then skyrocket it to power rotation"... only a consultant would attempt to make that make sense. If they're doing research, they certainly aren't doing it on South Floridians.
> I still consider Y-100 to be my favourite South Florida
> radio station. In fact it's the only terrestrial station
> that I listen to here.
Y-100 is definitely still my favorite SoFla station. Power 96 lost that title when they pulled dance altogether, though I still listened for a while after that. But you're absolutely right, Major... they're not at all the Y we used to know and love. If they still were, they'd probably be killing in the books right now.<P ID="signature">______________
http://theradioblog.blogspot.com</P>
> That sounds to me more like consultancy than research.
> "Hold off on it until it hits big, then skyrocket it to
> power rotation"... only a consultant would attempt to make
> that make sense. If they're doing research, they certainly
> aren't doing it on South Floridians.
Yeah, I am sure Y100 is basing their music moves on a consultant and not on research...I don't think so.
> "Hold off on it until it hits big, then skyrocket it to
> power rotation"... only a consultant would attempt to make
> that make sense. If they're doing research, they certainly
> aren't doing it on South Floridians.
Yeah, I am sure Y100 is basing their music moves on a consultant and not on research...I don't think so.
C
Cheddar
Guest
> WYOK/ Mobile
It's not going to be CHR for long, according to All Access.
Also, it wasn't a bad CHR when Ted Striker was the PD.
"Cheddar"
Former P/T WYOK
It's not going to be CHR for long, according to All Access.
Also, it wasn't a bad CHR when Ted Striker was the PD.
"Cheddar"
Former P/T WYOK
> That sounds to me more like consultancy than research.
> "Hold off on it until it hits big, then skyrocket it to
> power rotation"... only a consultant would attempt to make
> that make sense. If they're doing research, they certainly
> aren't doing it on South Floridians.
After a few months of receiving only about 40 to 50 spins per week (Cascada's "Everytime We Touch") suddenly skyrocketed all the way up to 110+ spins this past week. Nationwide the track has already peaked. Go figure.
> Y-100 is definitely still my favorite SoFla station. Power
> 96 lost that title when they pulled dance altogether, though
> I still listened for a while after that. But you're
> absolutely right, Major... they're not at all the Y we used
> to know and love. If they still were, they'd probably be
> killing in the books right now.
Hey J.C. - Did you ever listen to PARTY-93.1 while it was on-the-air (December 31st 2001 - February 14th 2005) ? If so then what did you think of it ?
THE MAJOR
> "Hold off on it until it hits big, then skyrocket it to
> power rotation"... only a consultant would attempt to make
> that make sense. If they're doing research, they certainly
> aren't doing it on South Floridians.
After a few months of receiving only about 40 to 50 spins per week (Cascada's "Everytime We Touch") suddenly skyrocketed all the way up to 110+ spins this past week. Nationwide the track has already peaked. Go figure.
> Y-100 is definitely still my favorite SoFla station. Power
> 96 lost that title when they pulled dance altogether, though
> I still listened for a while after that. But you're
> absolutely right, Major... they're not at all the Y we used
> to know and love. If they still were, they'd probably be
> killing in the books right now.
Hey J.C. - Did you ever listen to PARTY-93.1 while it was on-the-air (December 31st 2001 - February 14th 2005) ? If so then what did you think of it ?
THE MAJOR
Re: The answer to this question is, "it all depends"
> OK it's my turn to LOL now. There's no need to get too
> serious in here. When you replied to my hypothetical
> scenario with a serious response I just had to respond. But
> I actually like that too. It's good to have a nice potpourri
> of viewpoints in here from those of us who are fans of the
> biz and those of you who are the biz. Please feel free to
> act like a radio guy at any time !
>
> THE MAJOR
Well I MUST respond too. There is an actual formula, that is dead on perfect when trying to calculate the speed of your records in all categories. And much to my amazement, very few PDs actually use this formula to determine spins.
It's called OES = Optimum Effective Scheduling, if I were to try and explain the WHOLE thing I would write a novel of a post. But look it up, you can Google it and find all you would need to know. It was devloped years ago to determine the amount of spots an advertiser would have to run in order to get his message out to the whole cume of the radio station they were buying. Pretty interesting stuff.
> OK it's my turn to LOL now. There's no need to get too
> serious in here. When you replied to my hypothetical
> scenario with a serious response I just had to respond. But
> I actually like that too. It's good to have a nice potpourri
> of viewpoints in here from those of us who are fans of the
> biz and those of you who are the biz. Please feel free to
> act like a radio guy at any time !
>
> THE MAJOR
Well I MUST respond too. There is an actual formula, that is dead on perfect when trying to calculate the speed of your records in all categories. And much to my amazement, very few PDs actually use this formula to determine spins.
It's called OES = Optimum Effective Scheduling, if I were to try and explain the WHOLE thing I would write a novel of a post. But look it up, you can Google it and find all you would need to know. It was devloped years ago to determine the amount of spots an advertiser would have to run in order to get his message out to the whole cume of the radio station they were buying. Pretty interesting stuff.
> > What do you think is the worst CHRs in the US?? I choose
> > Channel 955 in Detroit and Kiss-FM in Milwaukee.
> >
>
>
> WHOT/ Youngstown
(EDIT: I'll note this was one of the best CHR's in the country, with some of the best jocks in the 90's, when Cumulus got their hands on it, it all went downhill)
(Kasper (KISS/Cleveland), Jagger (Z100/KC101), Chase (BEAT/Tulsa), Johnny Hartwell (STAR/Pittsburgh) all passed thru here)
I second that and throw the other CHR about 40 miles down the road under the bus as well.
WZKL - Alliance/Canton/Akron/Youngstown (their legal...the signal doesn't reach half of Akron, who could give 2 sh**s about them anyway) and Youngstown already has 2 CHR's
Known on air as Q92. They have a HORRIBLE night jock turned morning host who they promote LITERALLY every second they can (it's in every promo, I swear)
It's not so much the music (albeit, scheduled horribly) but the airstaff is simply autrocious and the processing is dreadful as well.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by peanutgallery on 04/06/06 06:27 AM.</FONT></P>
> > Channel 955 in Detroit and Kiss-FM in Milwaukee.
> >
>
>
> WHOT/ Youngstown
(EDIT: I'll note this was one of the best CHR's in the country, with some of the best jocks in the 90's, when Cumulus got their hands on it, it all went downhill)
(Kasper (KISS/Cleveland), Jagger (Z100/KC101), Chase (BEAT/Tulsa), Johnny Hartwell (STAR/Pittsburgh) all passed thru here)
I second that and throw the other CHR about 40 miles down the road under the bus as well.
WZKL - Alliance/Canton/Akron/Youngstown (their legal...the signal doesn't reach half of Akron, who could give 2 sh**s about them anyway) and Youngstown already has 2 CHR's
Known on air as Q92. They have a HORRIBLE night jock turned morning host who they promote LITERALLY every second they can (it's in every promo, I swear)
It's not so much the music (albeit, scheduled horribly) but the airstaff is simply autrocious and the processing is dreadful as well.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by peanutgallery on 04/06/06 06:27 AM.</FONT></P>
B
BHolmes
Guest
> What do you think is the worst CHRs in the US?? I choose
> Channel 955 in Detroit and Kiss-FM in Milwaukee.
>
Midwest11, PLEASE explain why Channel 955 is the WORST CHR in the entire US in your opinion. I HAVE to hear this. PLEASE back up your words with something.
I didn't see anyone else agreeing with you so I have to assume you are in that boat by yourself. 955 is one of the top five CHR's in the country, if not top three.
I look forward to reading your reasons.<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/nights - 104.5 WSNX Grand Rapids
weekends - 92.5 KISS FM Toledo
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P>
> Channel 955 in Detroit and Kiss-FM in Milwaukee.
>
Midwest11, PLEASE explain why Channel 955 is the WORST CHR in the entire US in your opinion. I HAVE to hear this. PLEASE back up your words with something.
I didn't see anyone else agreeing with you so I have to assume you are in that boat by yourself. 955 is one of the top five CHR's in the country, if not top three.
I look forward to reading your reasons.<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/nights - 104.5 WSNX Grand Rapids
weekends - 92.5 KISS FM Toledo
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P>
>
> Midwest11, PLEASE explain why Channel 955 is the WORST CHR
> in the entire US in your opinion. I HAVE to hear this.
> PLEASE back up your words with something.
>
It might have something to do with Channel 955's Rhythmic leaning tendancies.
I'm guessing he was a bigger fan of the DRQ sound, which was more musically balanced. Maybe if WKQI wasn't the only game in town his feelings wouldn't be so strong on the subject.
I think Channel 955 has some great personalities, and a good staff in general. While it would be nice to see Detroit have a more Z-100 sounding CHR, one can't deny the following:
1) WKQI is filling both the CHR/Pop and CHR/Rhythmic holes in the market
2) WKQI's ratings are good, and were almost always better then those of former rival 93.1 DRQ.
> Midwest11, PLEASE explain why Channel 955 is the WORST CHR
> in the entire US in your opinion. I HAVE to hear this.
> PLEASE back up your words with something.
>
It might have something to do with Channel 955's Rhythmic leaning tendancies.
I'm guessing he was a bigger fan of the DRQ sound, which was more musically balanced. Maybe if WKQI wasn't the only game in town his feelings wouldn't be so strong on the subject.
I think Channel 955 has some great personalities, and a good staff in general. While it would be nice to see Detroit have a more Z-100 sounding CHR, one can't deny the following:
1) WKQI is filling both the CHR/Pop and CHR/Rhythmic holes in the market
2) WKQI's ratings are good, and were almost always better then those of former rival 93.1 DRQ.
B
BHolmes
Guest
> >
> > Midwest11, PLEASE explain why Channel 955 is the WORST CHR
>
> > in the entire US in your opinion. I HAVE to hear this.
> > PLEASE back up your words with something.
> >
>
> It might have something to do with Channel 955's Rhythmic
> leaning tendancies.
> I'm guessing he was a bigger fan of the DRQ sound, which was
> more musically balanced. Maybe if WKQI wasn't the only game
> in town his feelings wouldn't be so strong on the subject.
>
> I think Channel 955 has some great personalities, and a good
> staff in general. While it would be nice to see Detroit have
> a more Z-100 sounding CHR, one can't deny the following:
> 1) WKQI is filling both the CHR/Pop and CHR/Rhythmic holes
> in the market
> 2) WKQI's ratings are good, and were almost always better
> then those of former rival 93.1 DRQ.
>
Just because WKQI may lean rhythmic doesn't make it one of "the WORST CHR's in the US" as Midwest stated. The definition of "CHR" differs from market to market and in Detroit, WKQI with it's rhythmic lean IS that definition.
My station, WSNX/Grand Rapids also has that same rhythmic lean because that's this market's definition of CHR.
WKQI should be applauded for understanding it's market and programming to it.
And while Midwest may have been a fan of the "DRQ sound", that "sound" played a LOT of stiff records. Musically it was a horrible radio station hence it's demise.
I could go on and on. i still really want to hear Midwest's reasons for calling Channel the WORST CHR in the US. The W O R S T?<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/nights - 104.5 WSNX Grand Rapids
weekends - 92.5 KISS FM Toledo
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P>
> > Midwest11, PLEASE explain why Channel 955 is the WORST CHR
>
> > in the entire US in your opinion. I HAVE to hear this.
> > PLEASE back up your words with something.
> >
>
> It might have something to do with Channel 955's Rhythmic
> leaning tendancies.
> I'm guessing he was a bigger fan of the DRQ sound, which was
> more musically balanced. Maybe if WKQI wasn't the only game
> in town his feelings wouldn't be so strong on the subject.
>
> I think Channel 955 has some great personalities, and a good
> staff in general. While it would be nice to see Detroit have
> a more Z-100 sounding CHR, one can't deny the following:
> 1) WKQI is filling both the CHR/Pop and CHR/Rhythmic holes
> in the market
> 2) WKQI's ratings are good, and were almost always better
> then those of former rival 93.1 DRQ.
>
Just because WKQI may lean rhythmic doesn't make it one of "the WORST CHR's in the US" as Midwest stated. The definition of "CHR" differs from market to market and in Detroit, WKQI with it's rhythmic lean IS that definition.
My station, WSNX/Grand Rapids also has that same rhythmic lean because that's this market's definition of CHR.
WKQI should be applauded for understanding it's market and programming to it.
And while Midwest may have been a fan of the "DRQ sound", that "sound" played a LOT of stiff records. Musically it was a horrible radio station hence it's demise.
I could go on and on. i still really want to hear Midwest's reasons for calling Channel the WORST CHR in the US. The W O R S T?<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/nights - 104.5 WSNX Grand Rapids
weekends - 92.5 KISS FM Toledo
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P>
> > >
> > > Midwest11, PLEASE explain why Channel 955 is the WORST
> CHR
> >
> > > in the entire US in your opinion. I HAVE to hear this.
> > > PLEASE back up your words with something.
> > >
> >
> > It might have something to do with Channel 955's Rhythmic
> > leaning tendancies.
> > I'm guessing he was a bigger fan of the DRQ sound, which
> was
> > more musically balanced. Maybe if WKQI wasn't the only
> game
> > in town his feelings wouldn't be so strong on the subject.
>
> >
> > I think Channel 955 has some great personalities, and a
> good
> > staff in general. While it would be nice to see Detroit
> have
> > a more Z-100 sounding CHR, one can't deny the following:
> > 1) WKQI is filling both the CHR/Pop and CHR/Rhythmic holes
>
> > in the market
> > 2) WKQI's ratings are good, and were almost always better
> > then those of former rival 93.1 DRQ.
> >
>
> Just because WKQI may lean rhythmic doesn't make it one of
> "the WORST CHR's in the US" as Midwest stated. The
> definition of "CHR" differs from market to market and in
> Detroit, WKQI with it's rhythmic lean IS that definition.
> My station, WSNX/Grand Rapids also has that same rhythmic
> lean because that's this market's definition of CHR.
> WKQI should be applauded for understanding it's market and
> programming to it.
>
> And while Midwest may have been a fan of the "DRQ sound",
> that "sound" played a LOT of stiff records. Musically it was
> a horrible radio station hence it's demise.
>
> I could go on and on. i still really want to hear Midwest's
> reasons for calling Channel the WORST CHR in the US. The W O
> R S T?
>
Between you and me Brian, I'm sure he just wishes that Channel 955 sounded (musically) more like 93.3 FLZ Tampa Or perhaps 92.5 Kiss FM Toledo.
> > > Midwest11, PLEASE explain why Channel 955 is the WORST
> CHR
> >
> > > in the entire US in your opinion. I HAVE to hear this.
> > > PLEASE back up your words with something.
> > >
> >
> > It might have something to do with Channel 955's Rhythmic
> > leaning tendancies.
> > I'm guessing he was a bigger fan of the DRQ sound, which
> was
> > more musically balanced. Maybe if WKQI wasn't the only
> game
> > in town his feelings wouldn't be so strong on the subject.
>
> >
> > I think Channel 955 has some great personalities, and a
> good
> > staff in general. While it would be nice to see Detroit
> have
> > a more Z-100 sounding CHR, one can't deny the following:
> > 1) WKQI is filling both the CHR/Pop and CHR/Rhythmic holes
>
> > in the market
> > 2) WKQI's ratings are good, and were almost always better
> > then those of former rival 93.1 DRQ.
> >
>
> Just because WKQI may lean rhythmic doesn't make it one of
> "the WORST CHR's in the US" as Midwest stated. The
> definition of "CHR" differs from market to market and in
> Detroit, WKQI with it's rhythmic lean IS that definition.
> My station, WSNX/Grand Rapids also has that same rhythmic
> lean because that's this market's definition of CHR.
> WKQI should be applauded for understanding it's market and
> programming to it.
>
> And while Midwest may have been a fan of the "DRQ sound",
> that "sound" played a LOT of stiff records. Musically it was
> a horrible radio station hence it's demise.
>
> I could go on and on. i still really want to hear Midwest's
> reasons for calling Channel the WORST CHR in the US. The W O
> R S T?
>
Between you and me Brian, I'm sure he just wishes that Channel 955 sounded (musically) more like 93.3 FLZ Tampa
Or perhaps 92.5 Kiss FM Toledo.> > >
> > > Midwest11, PLEASE explain why Channel 955 is the WORST
> CHR
> >
> > > in the entire US in your opinion. I HAVE to hear this.
> > > PLEASE back up your words with something.
> > >
> >
> > It might have something to do with Channel 955's Rhythmic
> > leaning tendancies.
> > I'm guessing he was a bigger fan of the DRQ sound, which
> was
> > more musically balanced. Maybe if WKQI wasn't the only
> game
> > in town his feelings wouldn't be so strong on the subject.
>
> >
> > I think Channel 955 has some great personalities, and a
> good
> > staff in general. While it would be nice to see Detroit
> have
> > a more Z-100 sounding CHR, one can't deny the following:
> > 1) WKQI is filling both the CHR/Pop and CHR/Rhythmic holes
>
> > in the market
> > 2) WKQI's ratings are good, and were almost always better
> > then those of former rival 93.1 DRQ.
> >
>
> Just because WKQI may lean rhythmic doesn't make it one of
> "the WORST CHR's in the US" as Midwest stated. The
> definition of "CHR" differs from market to market and in
> Detroit, WKQI with it's rhythmic lean IS that definition.
> My station, WSNX/Grand Rapids also has that same rhythmic
> lean because that's this market's definition of CHR.
> WKQI should be applauded for understanding it's market and
> programming to it.
>
> And while Midwest may have been a fan of the "DRQ sound",
> that "sound" played a LOT of stiff records. Musically it was
> a horrible radio station hence it's demise.
>
> I could go on and on. i still really want to hear Midwest's
> reasons for calling Channel the WORST CHR in the US. The W O
> R S T?
>
WXSS is what I consider the worse. They don't even play Nickelback - Savin Me and Staind - Right Here. Both Top-20 hits. I bet WSNX plays them overnight.
As for WSNX, WSNX was a rhythmic CHR until CC bought it and WVTI in 2000. WVTI was Adult CHR. They changed WVTI to Hot AC and added some rock to WSNX. I EXPECT WSNX to be rhythmic leaning as thats the WSNX I've known for about 10 years.
WXSS was MAINSTREAM full forced CHR from June 1998 until February 2003 when they just suddenly decided to make WXSS 99% rhythmic CHR and put some CHR/Modern tracks on their sister Hot AC WMYX. That plan fell through. WMYX went back to full blown Hot AC (a stale one at that) and we're stuck with a borderline Rhythmic CHR.
But of course, there are even worse stations in other parts of the country.
<P ID="signature">______________
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> > > Midwest11, PLEASE explain why Channel 955 is the WORST
> CHR
> >
> > > in the entire US in your opinion. I HAVE to hear this.
> > > PLEASE back up your words with something.
> > >
> >
> > It might have something to do with Channel 955's Rhythmic
> > leaning tendancies.
> > I'm guessing he was a bigger fan of the DRQ sound, which
> was
> > more musically balanced. Maybe if WKQI wasn't the only
> game
> > in town his feelings wouldn't be so strong on the subject.
>
> >
> > I think Channel 955 has some great personalities, and a
> good
> > staff in general. While it would be nice to see Detroit
> have
> > a more Z-100 sounding CHR, one can't deny the following:
> > 1) WKQI is filling both the CHR/Pop and CHR/Rhythmic holes
>
> > in the market
> > 2) WKQI's ratings are good, and were almost always better
> > then those of former rival 93.1 DRQ.
> >
>
> Just because WKQI may lean rhythmic doesn't make it one of
> "the WORST CHR's in the US" as Midwest stated. The
> definition of "CHR" differs from market to market and in
> Detroit, WKQI with it's rhythmic lean IS that definition.
> My station, WSNX/Grand Rapids also has that same rhythmic
> lean because that's this market's definition of CHR.
> WKQI should be applauded for understanding it's market and
> programming to it.
>
> And while Midwest may have been a fan of the "DRQ sound",
> that "sound" played a LOT of stiff records. Musically it was
> a horrible radio station hence it's demise.
>
> I could go on and on. i still really want to hear Midwest's
> reasons for calling Channel the WORST CHR in the US. The W O
> R S T?
>
WXSS is what I consider the worse. They don't even play Nickelback - Savin Me and Staind - Right Here. Both Top-20 hits. I bet WSNX plays them overnight.
As for WSNX, WSNX was a rhythmic CHR until CC bought it and WVTI in 2000. WVTI was Adult CHR. They changed WVTI to Hot AC and added some rock to WSNX. I EXPECT WSNX to be rhythmic leaning as thats the WSNX I've known for about 10 years.
WXSS was MAINSTREAM full forced CHR from June 1998 until February 2003 when they just suddenly decided to make WXSS 99% rhythmic CHR and put some CHR/Modern tracks on their sister Hot AC WMYX. That plan fell through. WMYX went back to full blown Hot AC (a stale one at that) and we're stuck with a borderline Rhythmic CHR.
But of course, there are even worse stations in other parts of the country.
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> What do you think is the worst CHRs in the US?? I choose
> Channel 955 in Detroit and Kiss-FM in Milwaukee.
>
Heres what i think:
Channel 955 is bad 'cause 99% of it is Rhythmic and theit DJs are too hyper.In my opinion as much does Detroit radio needs an VH station,it ALSO needs a good,well-balcaned CHR.
And also i forgot...
WSOY-FM Decatur,Ill. Everything about that station is totally horrible.And the number one reason it stinks is becaude of CADI-WHACK JACK!!<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Midwest11 on 04/10/06 12:02 AM.</FONT></P>
> Channel 955 in Detroit and Kiss-FM in Milwaukee.
>
Heres what i think:
Channel 955 is bad 'cause 99% of it is Rhythmic and theit DJs are too hyper.In my opinion as much does Detroit radio needs an VH station,it ALSO needs a good,well-balcaned CHR.
And also i forgot...
WSOY-FM Decatur,Ill. Everything about that station is totally horrible.And the number one reason it stinks is becaude of CADI-WHACK JACK!!<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Midwest11 on 04/10/06 12:02 AM.</FONT></P>
It appears to me that my posts were eaten by the crash.
> After a few months of receiving only about 40 to 50 spins
> per week (Cascada's "Everytime We Touch") suddenly
> skyrocketed all the way up to 110+ spins this past week.
> Nationwide the track has already peaked. Go figure.
You figure that Miami is one of the most dance-leaning markets in the country, and yet Y waits to jump on Cascada until the rest of the country has already gotten over it? Oy vey.
> Hey J.C. - Did you ever listen to PARTY-93.1 while it was
> on-the-air (December 31st 2001 - February 14th 2005) ? If
> so then what did you think of it ?
I did, and I loved it, at least for the first year or so. One thing I always wondered, though, was when they were going to get live jocks into the studio. It never happened, and I think that was about half of their downfall. The other half was the decision to play more recurrents and golds than anything else. Honestly: just how many times can one fit "As The Rush Comes" into 24 hours? Towards the end, it just got worse. More golds, less recurrents, and very few, if any, currents. I was sad to hear it leave the air, but it was their own doing that caused it. Miami was willing to listen... if only WPYM had listened to Miami.<P ID="signature">______________
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> After a few months of receiving only about 40 to 50 spins
> per week (Cascada's "Everytime We Touch") suddenly
> skyrocketed all the way up to 110+ spins this past week.
> Nationwide the track has already peaked. Go figure.
You figure that Miami is one of the most dance-leaning markets in the country, and yet Y waits to jump on Cascada until the rest of the country has already gotten over it? Oy vey.
> Hey J.C. - Did you ever listen to PARTY-93.1 while it was
> on-the-air (December 31st 2001 - February 14th 2005) ? If
> so then what did you think of it ?
I did, and I loved it, at least for the first year or so. One thing I always wondered, though, was when they were going to get live jocks into the studio. It never happened, and I think that was about half of their downfall. The other half was the decision to play more recurrents and golds than anything else. Honestly: just how many times can one fit "As The Rush Comes" into 24 hours? Towards the end, it just got worse. More golds, less recurrents, and very few, if any, currents. I was sad to hear it leave the air, but it was their own doing that caused it. Miami was willing to listen... if only WPYM had listened to Miami.<P ID="signature">______________
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> Yeah, I am sure Y100 is basing their music moves on a
> consultant and not on research...I don't think so.
Well, then, please explain to me why they've lost touch with the market? Today's mainstream tracks don't exactly speak to South Florida (with the exception of Shakira's latest), and yet that's all Y is playing these days... which likely explains their lousy 2.7 12+ showing in the recent trend. Or, if you want a solid quarterly number, the 2.4 12+ this past Fall certainly doesn't help make the case for a straight mainstream CHR in the market either. So what makes you so sure research has anything to do with their music decisions? Because if they are doing research, they certainly aren't doing it in South Florida!<P ID="signature">______________
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> consultant and not on research...I don't think so.
Well, then, please explain to me why they've lost touch with the market? Today's mainstream tracks don't exactly speak to South Florida (with the exception of Shakira's latest), and yet that's all Y is playing these days... which likely explains their lousy 2.7 12+ showing in the recent trend. Or, if you want a solid quarterly number, the 2.4 12+ this past Fall certainly doesn't help make the case for a straight mainstream CHR in the market either. So what makes you so sure research has anything to do with their music decisions? Because if they are doing research, they certainly aren't doing it in South Florida!<P ID="signature">______________
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> It appears to me that my posts were eaten by the crash.
I know the feeling. It's like two days last week on here never existed !
> You figure that Miami is one of the most dance-leaning
> markets in the country, and yet Y waits to jump on Cascada
> until the rest of the country has already gotten over it?
> Oy vey.
Long live the late-1990s when Y-100 literally pulled in those European trance, techno, and house jams from across the Atlantic, made them mainstream, and made the other CHR-POP stations in Florida and the rest of the nation take notice. Rob Roberts was a programming genius back then.
> I did, and I loved it, at least for the first year or so.
> One thing I always wondered, though, was when they were
> going to get live jocks into the studio. It never happened,
> and I think that was about half of their downfall. The
> other half was the decision to play more recurrents and
> golds than anything else. Honestly: just how many times can
> one fit "As The Rush Comes" into 24 hours? Towards the end,
> it just got worse. More golds, less recurrents, and very
> few, if any, currents. I was sad to hear it leave the air,
> but it was their own doing that caused it. Miami was
> willing to listen... if only WPYM had listened to Miami.
Allow me to repeat what got deleted last week in the horrible server crash. PARTY-93.1 was brilliant in 2002. There was nothing else like it. 2003 sounded just like 2002. I gave up early on in 2004 when it still sounded just like 2002. The PARTY died on Valentine's Day in 2005. Not a creature was stirring. Not even a mouse.
I could go on and on about PARTY-93.1. Let me know J.C. if you're interested (maybe in a new thread). I tried this a few months ago in the Miami board and nobody cared. A few of them are still bitter that the PARTY crashed their precious WTMI.
THE MAJOR
I know the feeling. It's like two days last week on here never existed !
> You figure that Miami is one of the most dance-leaning
> markets in the country, and yet Y waits to jump on Cascada
> until the rest of the country has already gotten over it?
> Oy vey.
Long live the late-1990s when Y-100 literally pulled in those European trance, techno, and house jams from across the Atlantic, made them mainstream, and made the other CHR-POP stations in Florida and the rest of the nation take notice. Rob Roberts was a programming genius back then.
> I did, and I loved it, at least for the first year or so.
> One thing I always wondered, though, was when they were
> going to get live jocks into the studio. It never happened,
> and I think that was about half of their downfall. The
> other half was the decision to play more recurrents and
> golds than anything else. Honestly: just how many times can
> one fit "As The Rush Comes" into 24 hours? Towards the end,
> it just got worse. More golds, less recurrents, and very
> few, if any, currents. I was sad to hear it leave the air,
> but it was their own doing that caused it. Miami was
> willing to listen... if only WPYM had listened to Miami.
Allow me to repeat what got deleted last week in the horrible server crash. PARTY-93.1 was brilliant in 2002. There was nothing else like it. 2003 sounded just like 2002. I gave up early on in 2004 when it still sounded just like 2002. The PARTY died on Valentine's Day in 2005. Not a creature was stirring. Not even a mouse.
I could go on and on about PARTY-93.1. Let me know J.C. if you're interested (maybe in a new thread). I tried this a few months ago in the Miami board and nobody cared. A few of them are still bitter that the PARTY crashed their precious WTMI.
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> > What do you think is the worst CHRs in the US?? I choose
> > Channel 955 in Detroit and Kiss-FM in Milwaukee.
> >
>
>
> WHOT/ Youngstown
> WYOK/ Mobile
> WDDJ/ Paducah, KY
> WREZ/ Paducah, KY
> KSMA/ Mason City, IA
> KLRS/ Chico, CA
>
>
> Just a few that come to mind..
>
I can't believe I didn't mention this already, but WZKL (Q92) / Canton, Ohio is another AWFUL CHR.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > What do you think is the worst CHRs in the US?? I choose
> > Channel 955 in Detroit and Kiss-FM in Milwaukee.
> >
>
>
> WHOT/ Youngstown
> WYOK/ Mobile
> WDDJ/ Paducah, KY
> WREZ/ Paducah, KY
> KSMA/ Mason City, IA
> KLRS/ Chico, CA
>
>
> Just a few that come to mind..
>
I can't believe I didn't mention this already, but WZKL (Q92) / Canton, Ohio is another AWFUL CHR.<P ID="signature">______________
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