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> Is this rockin country on 1067 in nola just one bad dream
>
unfortuneately for you...NOPE
and No one else in NOLA seems to wanna step up with any new rock newer than 2003 right now.... (unless you like trying to listen through the static to stations in Thibodaux,Donaldsonville, or Biloxi)
>
unfortuneately for you...NOPE
and No one else in NOLA seems to wanna step up with any new rock newer than 2003 right now.... (unless you like trying to listen through the static to stations in Thibodaux,Donaldsonville, or Biloxi)
> > Is this rockin country on 1067 in nola just one bad dream
> >
> unfortuneately for you...NOPE
>
> and No one else in NOLA seems to wanna step up with any new
> rock newer than 2003 right now.... (unless you like trying
> to listen through the static to stations in
> Thibodaux,Donaldsonville, or Biloxi)
>
i like rockin country...try xm 48 squizz..<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
> >
> unfortuneately for you...NOPE
>
> and No one else in NOLA seems to wanna step up with any new
> rock newer than 2003 right now.... (unless you like trying
> to listen through the static to stations in
> Thibodaux,Donaldsonville, or Biloxi)
>
i like rockin country...try xm 48 squizz..<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
> > > Is this rockin country on 1067 in nola just one bad
> dream
What's happened at 1067 is exactly why satellite radio will make most terrestrial radio stations irrelevant. Decisions are made with little regard to what listeners actually think because radio companies outside of the top 10 markets can't afford research. So they guess.
> dream
What's happened at 1067 is exactly why satellite radio will make most terrestrial radio stations irrelevant. Decisions are made with little regard to what listeners actually think because radio companies outside of the top 10 markets can't afford research. So they guess.
> > > > Is this rockin country on 1067 in nola just one bad
> > dream
>
> What's happened at 1067 is exactly why satellite radio will
> make most terrestrial radio stations irrelevant. Decisions
> are made with little regard to what listeners actually think
> because radio companies outside of the top 10 markets can't
> afford research. So they guess.
>
the format of 106.7 is the #1 country format in nashville right now. see the nashville board. <P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
> > dream
>
> What's happened at 1067 is exactly why satellite radio will
> make most terrestrial radio stations irrelevant. Decisions
> are made with little regard to what listeners actually think
> because radio companies outside of the top 10 markets can't
> afford research. So they guess.
>
the format of 106.7 is the #1 country format in nashville right now. see the nashville board. <P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
My point exactly. We're not in Nashville, so how do we know what will work here? Maybe 106.7 will work in N.O., maybe it won't. Your guess is as good as mine, which is as good as Citadel's. They may be educated guesses but in the end they are just that... Guesses.
> > What's happened at 1067 is exactly why satellite radio
> will
> > make most terrestrial radio stations irrelevant. Decisions
>
> > are made with little regard to what listeners actually
> think
> > because radio companies outside of the top 10 markets
> can't
> > afford research. So they guess.
> >
> the format of 106.7 is the #1 country format in nashville
> right now. see the nashville board.
>
> > What's happened at 1067 is exactly why satellite radio
> will
> > make most terrestrial radio stations irrelevant. Decisions
>
> > are made with little regard to what listeners actually
> think
> > because radio companies outside of the top 10 markets
> can't
> > afford research. So they guess.
> >
> the format of 106.7 is the #1 country format in nashville
> right now. see the nashville board.
>
clever marketing..
well you are right BUT..modern rocks audience is turning off the radio. i personally know of no one that even cares its gone (outside of this board)..the responce i get about the loss is usually. i dont listen to the radio anyway i just listen to my mp3 player. rock radio is dead..but bubba in picayune still listens to garth brooks and he still listens to the radio when chugging that case of bud with his 3 buddys on the fishing trip...citadel saw that and decided to flip accordingly. a lot of country fans dont have mp3 players..hell a lot of them dont know what it is..they dont sell it at the bass pro shop...
> My point exactly. We're not in Nashville, so how do we know
> what will work here? Maybe 106.7 will work in N.O., maybe it
> won't. Your guess is as good as mine, which is as good as
> Citadel's. They may be educated guesses but in the end they
> are just that... Guesses.
>
>
> > > What's happened at 1067 is exactly why satellite radio
> > will
> > > make most terrestrial radio stations irrelevant.
> Decisions
> >
> > > are made with little regard to what listeners actually
> > think
> > > because radio companies outside of the top 10 markets
> > can't
> > > afford research. So they guess.
> > >
> > the format of 106.7 is the #1 country format in nashville
> > right now. see the nashville board.
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
well you are right BUT..modern rocks audience is turning off the radio. i personally know of no one that even cares its gone (outside of this board)..the responce i get about the loss is usually. i dont listen to the radio anyway i just listen to my mp3 player. rock radio is dead..but bubba in picayune still listens to garth brooks and he still listens to the radio when chugging that case of bud with his 3 buddys on the fishing trip...citadel saw that and decided to flip accordingly. a lot of country fans dont have mp3 players..hell a lot of them dont know what it is..they dont sell it at the bass pro shop...
> My point exactly. We're not in Nashville, so how do we know
> what will work here? Maybe 106.7 will work in N.O., maybe it
> won't. Your guess is as good as mine, which is as good as
> Citadel's. They may be educated guesses but in the end they
> are just that... Guesses.
>
>
> > > What's happened at 1067 is exactly why satellite radio
> > will
> > > make most terrestrial radio stations irrelevant.
> Decisions
> >
> > > are made with little regard to what listeners actually
> > think
> > > because radio companies outside of the top 10 markets
> > can't
> > > afford research. So they guess.
> > >
> > the format of 106.7 is the #1 country format in nashville
> > right now. see the nashville board.
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
> > > > > Is this rockin country on 1067 in nola just one bad
> > > dream
> >
> > What's happened at 1067 is exactly why satellite radio
> will
> > make most terrestrial radio stations irrelevant. Decisions
>
> > are made with little regard to what listeners actually
> think
> > because radio companies outside of the top 10 markets
> can't
> > afford research. So they guess.
> >
> the format of 106.7 is the #1 country format in nashville
> right now. see the nashville board.
>
Uh Look again...WSIX is number 3 which is Nashville Pop as you call it....
WSM-FM is number 5 and is MD closer to what a rocking country should sound like... Classic country, all the new country (even stuff 106.7 says it won't play) as well as classic hits (opposed to hard classic rock)
Some of the rock that WSM is playing is stuff that some interprising southern stations (before 1996) played on their playlist in the 80s
RFLA
> > > dream
> >
> > What's happened at 1067 is exactly why satellite radio
> will
> > make most terrestrial radio stations irrelevant. Decisions
>
> > are made with little regard to what listeners actually
> think
> > because radio companies outside of the top 10 markets
> can't
> > afford research. So they guess.
> >
> the format of 106.7 is the #1 country format in nashville
> right now. see the nashville board.
>
Uh Look again...WSIX is number 3 which is Nashville Pop as you call it....
WSM-FM is number 5 and is MD closer to what a rocking country should sound like... Classic country, all the new country (even stuff 106.7 says it won't play) as well as classic hits (opposed to hard classic rock)
Some of the rock that WSM is playing is stuff that some interprising southern stations (before 1996) played on their playlist in the 80s
RFLA
> > > > > > Is this rockin country on 1067 in nola just one
> bad
> > > > dream
> > >
> > > What's happened at 1067 is exactly why satellite radio
> > will
> > > make most terrestrial radio stations irrelevant.
> Decisions
> >
> > > are made with little regard to what listeners actually
> > think
> > > because radio companies outside of the top 10 markets
> > can't
> > > afford research. So they guess.
> > >
> > the format of 106.7 is the #1 country format in nashville
> > right now. see the nashville board.
> >
>
>
> Uh Look again...WSIX is number 3 which is Nashville Pop as
> you call it....
>
> WSM-FM is number 5 and is MD closer to what a rocking
> country should sound like... Classic country, all the new
> country (even stuff 106.7 says it won't play) as well as
> classic hits (opposed to hard classic rock)
>
> Some of the rock that WSM is playing is stuff that some
> interprising southern stations (before 1996) played on their
> playlist in the 80s
>
> RFLA
quote :The Wolf was in fact #1 25-54 adults in January.>
not 12+ ..the target demo..read the whole nashville thread about the wolf..12+ doesnt count anyway.<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
> bad
> > > > dream
> > >
> > > What's happened at 1067 is exactly why satellite radio
> > will
> > > make most terrestrial radio stations irrelevant.
> Decisions
> >
> > > are made with little regard to what listeners actually
> > think
> > > because radio companies outside of the top 10 markets
> > can't
> > > afford research. So they guess.
> > >
> > the format of 106.7 is the #1 country format in nashville
> > right now. see the nashville board.
> >
>
>
> Uh Look again...WSIX is number 3 which is Nashville Pop as
> you call it....
>
> WSM-FM is number 5 and is MD closer to what a rocking
> country should sound like... Classic country, all the new
> country (even stuff 106.7 says it won't play) as well as
> classic hits (opposed to hard classic rock)
>
> Some of the rock that WSM is playing is stuff that some
> interprising southern stations (before 1996) played on their
> playlist in the 80s
>
> RFLA
quote :The Wolf was in fact #1 25-54 adults in January.>
not 12+ ..the target demo..read the whole nashville thread about the wolf..12+ doesnt count anyway.<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
> quote :The Wolf was in fact #1 25-54 adults in January.>
> not 12+ ..the target demo..read the whole nashville thread
> about the wolf..12+ doesnt count anyway.
>
Ok I read it..One book at number 1 and the person who put them there is gone according to what I see.
But the biggest difference between WSM-FM and KKND is the playlist!
WSM-FM plays ALL country music including those supposedly "not played by KKND" if you listen to their promos and on air content. Shania Twain and Faith Hill among others (the sappy stuff but not to the extent of other stations)
WSM's rock playlist is mainly Creedance, Eagles, England Dan (better known in the 1980's as Dan Seals)and John Ford Corley, James taylor.. The hardest I found was Bryan Adams (summer of 69) which is about as hard as some Montgomery Gentry songs.... But the key is they are either country rock or have a soft flow that while they may have played on AOR in the 1970s, they are now right in line with today's beats.
Stations such as WKJN (now known as WCDV) 103.3 in Baton Rouge which reaches into the western edges of the New Orleans metro was playing Bruce springsteen, John Cougar Mellencamp and others in its playlist in the early 90s roughly.
Rock that has the same beats of country such as those named above, as well as newer groups like 3 Doors down I can see being played on country radio today in a Wolf style format and winning.... as it appeals to many demographics and genders...Male and female , as well as 18-60+ can listen in and enjoy IMO
KKND does play some of the rock that WSM plays such as Lynyrd Skynyrd but also plays rock artists that wouldn't normally cross over too well such as Edgar Winter, The Guess Who, ZZ Top, and AC/DC .
Yes, It's aimed at men but I find it's aimed at a specific male demo and winning in this town is going to be hard with the demo they seem to be after is ones that may either occasionally listen to country or trying country once again after leaving for Rock during country's soft a/c movement in the early part of the decade.
I find the playlist also contains a few songs that I figure won't go over so well with the crowd they are aiming for. Such as some of the older songs by Jerry Reed among others.
I think personally, Rockin' country 106.7 is another one of the stations that is a great basic idea but on the whole has holes. I want to be proven wrong in the numbers, but my guess is same numbers as 106.7 the end at max as you have hardly no women listening, the younger demo staying with the pop country, so youre going after a demo that youre fighting two classic rock stations for listeners.. and both of them don't have a mornign show trying to "ya'll" it up by trying to take the former games and complete feel of a show styled for modern rock and rework it for country radio... Sorry
I'm not connected to Citadel so I wouldn't know but my guess is this format was headed for 100.3 and when 100.3 deal went south, with them probably already signed for Nascar among other things,decided to flip it (plus Citadel's apparent dislike of modern rock in this area)
I don't know about you, but they do have listeners of new rock still. I find some of the whites who were big into rap sometimes are going back to rock somewhat with rap becoming some what stale recently, I find other markets are seeing rock stations come up in numbers....
106.7 the end I find was getting a little stale due to being the sole new rock station for 7 out of almost 10 years... And if done right in a post Katrina Chocolate City, will see numbers go up for a new rock station if projections I have seen stay true with some New Orleanians not coming back, espcially if the 9th ward isn't rebuilt and the feet dragging that is still apparent in New Orleans East (Two of the major African American centers in NOLA).
I would be surprised not to hear new rock sometome soon in the city even if on a rimshot.... I know with 104.5 in deep red, someone could probably pick this station up for a song and flip it to new rock and get the same numbers as KKND on a worst rimshot than KKND (as most of the listeners were Jeff Parish and areas south of the city for the most part... areas hit by 104.5)
RFLA
> not 12+ ..the target demo..read the whole nashville thread
> about the wolf..12+ doesnt count anyway.
>
Ok I read it..One book at number 1 and the person who put them there is gone according to what I see.
But the biggest difference between WSM-FM and KKND is the playlist!
WSM-FM plays ALL country music including those supposedly "not played by KKND" if you listen to their promos and on air content. Shania Twain and Faith Hill among others (the sappy stuff but not to the extent of other stations)
WSM's rock playlist is mainly Creedance, Eagles, England Dan (better known in the 1980's as Dan Seals)and John Ford Corley, James taylor.. The hardest I found was Bryan Adams (summer of 69) which is about as hard as some Montgomery Gentry songs.... But the key is they are either country rock or have a soft flow that while they may have played on AOR in the 1970s, they are now right in line with today's beats.
Stations such as WKJN (now known as WCDV) 103.3 in Baton Rouge which reaches into the western edges of the New Orleans metro was playing Bruce springsteen, John Cougar Mellencamp and others in its playlist in the early 90s roughly.
Rock that has the same beats of country such as those named above, as well as newer groups like 3 Doors down I can see being played on country radio today in a Wolf style format and winning.... as it appeals to many demographics and genders...Male and female , as well as 18-60+ can listen in and enjoy IMO
KKND does play some of the rock that WSM plays such as Lynyrd Skynyrd but also plays rock artists that wouldn't normally cross over too well such as Edgar Winter, The Guess Who, ZZ Top, and AC/DC .
Yes, It's aimed at men but I find it's aimed at a specific male demo and winning in this town is going to be hard with the demo they seem to be after is ones that may either occasionally listen to country or trying country once again after leaving for Rock during country's soft a/c movement in the early part of the decade.
I find the playlist also contains a few songs that I figure won't go over so well with the crowd they are aiming for. Such as some of the older songs by Jerry Reed among others.
I think personally, Rockin' country 106.7 is another one of the stations that is a great basic idea but on the whole has holes. I want to be proven wrong in the numbers, but my guess is same numbers as 106.7 the end at max as you have hardly no women listening, the younger demo staying with the pop country, so youre going after a demo that youre fighting two classic rock stations for listeners.. and both of them don't have a mornign show trying to "ya'll" it up by trying to take the former games and complete feel of a show styled for modern rock and rework it for country radio... Sorry
I'm not connected to Citadel so I wouldn't know but my guess is this format was headed for 100.3 and when 100.3 deal went south, with them probably already signed for Nascar among other things,decided to flip it (plus Citadel's apparent dislike of modern rock in this area)
I don't know about you, but they do have listeners of new rock still. I find some of the whites who were big into rap sometimes are going back to rock somewhat with rap becoming some what stale recently, I find other markets are seeing rock stations come up in numbers....
106.7 the end I find was getting a little stale due to being the sole new rock station for 7 out of almost 10 years... And if done right in a post Katrina Chocolate City, will see numbers go up for a new rock station if projections I have seen stay true with some New Orleanians not coming back, espcially if the 9th ward isn't rebuilt and the feet dragging that is still apparent in New Orleans East (Two of the major African American centers in NOLA).
I would be surprised not to hear new rock sometome soon in the city even if on a rimshot.... I know with 104.5 in deep red, someone could probably pick this station up for a song and flip it to new rock and get the same numbers as KKND on a worst rimshot than KKND (as most of the listeners were Jeff Parish and areas south of the city for the most part... areas hit by 104.5)
RFLA
I find the playlist also contains a few songs that I figure won't go over so well with the crowd they are aiming for. Such as some of the older songs by Jerry Reed among others.
?????
i aint sure about that..as a country fan i love jerry reed..as well as hank jr, waylon, willie, cdb..those are the artists i never get tired of. but all that 80s pop country..like diamond rio type stuff would make me turn off the radio. i could hear east bound and down 3 times a day and never turn off the radio..just like waylon jennings good hearted woman..hank jr born to boogie..elvis..guitar man..those songs i will never get tired of..and those are the songs 1067 likes to play..
i didnt say no one listens to new rock..i did say however they dont listen to it on the radio..not teens..and 20 somethings..the target of the stations. at work in the past few days i have asked every one o know that listens to modern rock what radio station they listen to..they all say i dont listen to the radio..and we have a modern rock station here in baton rouge..actually 2 if you count klsu..and 3 if you have a good antenna 965 the planet comes in where i work in baton rouge in the parking lot..<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
?????
i aint sure about that..as a country fan i love jerry reed..as well as hank jr, waylon, willie, cdb..those are the artists i never get tired of. but all that 80s pop country..like diamond rio type stuff would make me turn off the radio. i could hear east bound and down 3 times a day and never turn off the radio..just like waylon jennings good hearted woman..hank jr born to boogie..elvis..guitar man..those songs i will never get tired of..and those are the songs 1067 likes to play..
i didnt say no one listens to new rock..i did say however they dont listen to it on the radio..not teens..and 20 somethings..the target of the stations. at work in the past few days i have asked every one o know that listens to modern rock what radio station they listen to..they all say i dont listen to the radio..and we have a modern rock station here in baton rouge..actually 2 if you count klsu..and 3 if you have a good antenna 965 the planet comes in where i work in baton rouge in the parking lot..<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
> I find the playlist also contains a few songs that I figure
> won't go over so well with the crowd they are aiming for.
> Such as some of the older songs by Jerry Reed among others.
>
>
> ?????
>
> i aint sure about that..as a country fan i love jerry
> reed..as well as hank jr, waylon, willie, cdb..those are the
> artists i never get tired of. but all that 80s pop
> country..like diamond rio type stuff would make me turn off
> the radio. i could hear east bound and down 3 times a day
> and never turn off the radio..just like waylon jennings good
> hearted woman..hank jr born to boogie..elvis..guitar
> man..those songs i will never get tired of..and those are
> the songs 1067 likes to play..
I'm not denying your loves. It's just in my personal opinion that they don't know who they want to go after sometimes it seems. Diamond Rio and richochet (country pop) mixed with true country mixed with classic rock staples... Just my opinion as it seems that is what is making me kind of stay away as of late.
For example:
Clint Black- A better Man
ZZ top - Legs
Emerson Drive - Fall into me
Johnny Cash- A boy named sue
From what I have read about other Rocking countrys, they have either stayed to the harder side of the format (such as not playing the Emerson Drive) or stayed with softer rock classics (substituing say Bob Seger for the ZZ top)
This is a Jack style for country that is taken to the extremes IMO.
I have no doubt they have listeners as yourself, I'm just wondering just how many feel the same as yourself in the listening area, that's all I'm asking.
>
> i didnt say no one listens to new rock..i did say however
> they dont listen to it on the radio..not teens..and 20
> somethings..the target of the stations. at work in the past
> few days i have asked every one o know that listens to
> modern rock what radio station they listen to..they all say
> i dont listen to the radio..and we have a modern rock
> station here in baton rouge..actually 2 if you count
> klsu..and 3 if you have a good antenna 965 the planet comes
> in where i work in baton rouge in the parking lot..
>
I apologize, I thought you might have taken the point as some have in the past on here that new rock is dead....
But all formats seem to be having this problem of it's listeners using different media to listen, but with this, it also shows that the stations must not be doing something to keep them there. But I will admit,I get my fix from the net at times due to my personal tastes in rock stations not found in this area. But I do need the radio to show me the newer stuff I might not find if I didn't know about it. ..And people older than 25 do listen to new rock who aren't into Ipods and mp3 recorders but rock stations in New orleans seem to ignore that fact
RFLA
> won't go over so well with the crowd they are aiming for.
> Such as some of the older songs by Jerry Reed among others.
>
>
> ?????
>
> i aint sure about that..as a country fan i love jerry
> reed..as well as hank jr, waylon, willie, cdb..those are the
> artists i never get tired of. but all that 80s pop
> country..like diamond rio type stuff would make me turn off
> the radio. i could hear east bound and down 3 times a day
> and never turn off the radio..just like waylon jennings good
> hearted woman..hank jr born to boogie..elvis..guitar
> man..those songs i will never get tired of..and those are
> the songs 1067 likes to play..
I'm not denying your loves. It's just in my personal opinion that they don't know who they want to go after sometimes it seems. Diamond Rio and richochet (country pop) mixed with true country mixed with classic rock staples... Just my opinion as it seems that is what is making me kind of stay away as of late.
For example:
Clint Black- A better Man
ZZ top - Legs
Emerson Drive - Fall into me
Johnny Cash- A boy named sue
From what I have read about other Rocking countrys, they have either stayed to the harder side of the format (such as not playing the Emerson Drive) or stayed with softer rock classics (substituing say Bob Seger for the ZZ top)
This is a Jack style for country that is taken to the extremes IMO.
I have no doubt they have listeners as yourself, I'm just wondering just how many feel the same as yourself in the listening area, that's all I'm asking.
>
> i didnt say no one listens to new rock..i did say however
> they dont listen to it on the radio..not teens..and 20
> somethings..the target of the stations. at work in the past
> few days i have asked every one o know that listens to
> modern rock what radio station they listen to..they all say
> i dont listen to the radio..and we have a modern rock
> station here in baton rouge..actually 2 if you count
> klsu..and 3 if you have a good antenna 965 the planet comes
> in where i work in baton rouge in the parking lot..
>
I apologize, I thought you might have taken the point as some have in the past on here that new rock is dead....
But all formats seem to be having this problem of it's listeners using different media to listen, but with this, it also shows that the stations must not be doing something to keep them there. But I will admit,I get my fix from the net at times due to my personal tastes in rock stations not found in this area. But I do need the radio to show me the newer stuff I might not find if I didn't know about it. ..And people older than 25 do listen to new rock who aren't into Ipods and mp3 recorders but rock stations in New orleans seem to ignore that fact
RFLA
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