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Baltimore Ravens Fans & The Replacement Refs' Manure

stationless listener said:
Al Michaels even had to make a note of the chanting since everyone watching could hear them.

NBC quite rightly let the crowd vent its collective spleen. What could they do, anyway? Run bars and tone for three minutes or so?

Like it or not, Goodell and his Greedy Gusses, all loaded with NBC's & others' cash, need to get their heads out of their you know wheres and bring back the regular zebras. It's only going to get worse.

Besides, I miss seeing Ed Hochuli handle a game. He's a good communicator.
 
Between the fans in Baltimore on NBC and Jon Stewart during the Emmys telecast on ABC, it was a banner night for the PTC. ;D
 
I found the moment with the chant sad, embarrassing, unfunny, and uncool (I did not hear the chanting live). The folks who chanted did not care for other members of the crowd and members of the TV audience who would never use such language. I wish the person who started the chant had used a better phrase had he or she had known other members of the crowd would start saying the same thing.
 
stationless listener said:
Roger Goodell has to be aware of this latest pr disaster.

he is, and they don't care. Look, the NFL is a multi-BILLION dollar a year industry. What he is going through now is just considered the cost of doing business. They have already taken the PR hit...now it's just waiting out the officials' union.
 
Joe_Capitano said:
Like it or not, Goodell and his Greedy Gusses, all loaded with NBC's & others' cash, need to get their heads out of their you know wheres and bring back the regular zebras. It's only going to get worse.

This is now all about Goodell's ego and his place as dictator of the NFL. The real refs won't be back until he says so. Then they'll settle.

Notice that Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth chose their words very carefully last night when they talked about these alleged refs. The teams have already been threatened with fines over criticizing the refs. I'll be willing to bet that the networks were warned as well.
 
Bengalsfan said:
stationless listener said:
Roger Goodell has to be aware of this latest pr disaster.

he is, and they don't care. Look, the NFL is a multi-BILLION dollar a year industry. What he is going through now is just considered the cost of doing business. They have already taken the PR hit...now it's just waiting out the officials' union.

Exactly right. There was a big discussion about this on Mike & Mike one morning. Nobody is going to stop watching football because of replacement refs, so ultimately it makes no difference. They could have a bunch of high school kids out there playing referee and people would still watch.
 
Mario-500 said:
I found the moment with the chant sad, embarrassing, unfunny, and uncool (I did not hear the chanting live). The folks who chanted did not care for other members of the crowd and members of the TV audience who would never use such language. I wish the person who started the chant had used a better phrase had he or she had known other members of the crowd would start saying the same thing.

Have you ever attended an NFL game? This is the norm when a bad call is made. If you want clean stick with college football.
 
JayR said:
Mario-500 said:
I found the moment with the chant sad, embarrassing, unfunny, and uncool (I did not hear the chanting live). The folks who chanted did not care for other members of the crowd and members of the TV audience who would never use such language. I wish the person who started the chant had used a better phrase had he or she had known other members of the crowd would start saying the same thing.

Have you ever attended an NFL game? This is the norm when a bad call is made. If you want clean stick with college football.

Then for Mario's sake, I would suggest not to watch the most installment of HBO
 
JayR said:
Mario-500 said:
I found the moment with the chant sad, embarrassing, unfunny, and uncool (I did not hear the chanting live). The folks who chanted did not care for other members of the crowd and members of the TV audience who would never use such language. I wish the person who started the chant had used a better phrase had he or she had known other members of the crowd would start saying the same thing.

Have you ever attended an NFL game? This is the norm when a bad call is made. If you want clean stick with college football.

No, middle school football might be safer for him.

ShawnHill1 said:
Then for Mario's sake, I would suggest not to watch the most installment of HBO

Or TV in general.
 
E-Dawg asked: said:
How would FCC handle this? For the viewers of the west coast, it's outside the Safe Harbor Hour (10PM to 6AM).

I could see the FCC taking action against NBC if:

(1) It would have been possible to turn off the microphones relaying sound from the fans on the field, and,

(2) The anchor booth in which Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth worked in was completely soundproofed and thus, the sounds of the fans could not be heard.

Of course, if it were an open-air broadcast booth, there was little NBC could have done.

I suspect the FCC is investigating, and if the commission funds that NBC could have eliminated the crowd mikes while keeping the mikes in a totally soundproofed broadcast booth on, then I think you'll see a fine, especially as this incident was just after 8 P.M. PDT.
 
JayR said:
Have you ever attended an NFL game? This is the norm when a bad call is made. If you want clean stick with college football.

The only football games I have personally witnessed were between college teams and I have never heard any chants of expletives during those games.
 
The point was making before I accidentially hit "post", was that HBO's Real Sports had a segment in its recent episode about fan violence at sporting events. One of the interviews in the piece featured the mother and sister of San Francisco Giants fan Brian Stow, who may know was beaten nearly to death by supposed Dodger fans at a Giants-Dodgers game in Los Angeles last year. Another interview featured an Oakland Raiders fan and his sister, who themselves were targets of 49ers fans at preseason game last year between the two teams at Candlestick Park. Because of that and several other incidents occuring at the same game, the 49ers suspended their annual preseason game with the Raiders for the time being, and have majorly beefed-up security in and around the stadium, including suspending tailgating activities at least a hour before each game.

As to the Patriots-Ravens game, I didn't watch the full game, but I saw highlights later last night, and Bill Belichick was very angry because the replacement refs called was really a missed field goal good. From what I saw of the replay, the ball veered-off to the right just as it was approaching the crossbar. The intial camera angle may have showed otherwise, but when they showed a zoomed-in angle, the ball was slightly-above and to the right of the crossbar. Belichick, after the conclusion of the game, ran up to one of the replacement officials and grabbed his arm...he's certainly to be fined, even if he was somewhat-justified in his actions.
 
I've attended several pro games in Buffalo and Phoenix, and while you'll get the occasional trash from individual fans, I never heard it from such a large number of fans in games I've attended, even when the officials made horrible calls.
 
One of the games I had witnessed was actually between students from different high schools while the other was between college teams. Sorry about the error in my previous post.
 
Tony Dungy's response to Bob Costas was classy (as Tony usually is).

Seems as if Costas was trying to get TD to accuse the officials, by asking his question, along the lines of "Will all this make the talks move along quicker and get things settled between the officials and the NFL?"

Dungy answered something like "It's better for the coaches to just get their teams to play better, to the point where these things won't happen." Thumbs up.

BTW I've seen bad calls from the regular officials.....

It's part of the game. And I do not believe that this is a ruse by the replacement guys.

cd
 
KeithE4 said:
Notice that Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth chose their words very carefully last night when they talked about these alleged refs. .... I'll be willing to bet that the networks were warned as well.

Al & Chris are not employees of the NFL. They can speak their minds if they wish, though discretion is the better part of valor.

Joseph_Gallant said:
I suspect the FCC is investigating, and if the commission (finds) that NBC could have eliminated the crowd mikes while keeping the mikes in a totally soundproofed broadcast booth on, then I think you'll see a fine, especially as this incident was just after 8 P.M. PDT.

No, no, no. The FCC has better things to worry about than a huge crowd at an NFL game chanting "Bull$#!+" en masse, and there's little NBC could do about it anyway. This is why "whomever" invented the Mute Button.
 
^I don't believe Eugene Polley (a former Zenith engineer) predicted last night's televised chant in 1955 when he created the Flash-matic and its ability to lower the volume of a TV set after the press of a button.
 
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