Baseball Playoffs

[lionbk]

With the Phillies out of the Playoffs does anyone know of any radio station that will be pick up the Playoffs in the Philadelphia area?

 

[fred flintstone]

OK, now it's two people who want to listen to play-off games on the radio involving only out-of-town teams.
This means the audience for radio play-offs has doubled.

I'm sure Julius will let us all know either (1) Which station or (2) That Philly is a bad radio market (which is true) and that the number six market deserves better.

In the meantime, XM Radio and MLB.com will have the play-offs.

 

[mjdecastro]

Despite me not being Julius or the guy who began this spread, I will speculate. Since WPHT has no announced replacement for Severin, and since Severin's last day of syndication by WW1 was 9/29/06, wouldn't it make sense for WPHT to pick up whatever game is being played in the night slot the remainder of the week?

Not sure what they would do on Monday - no baseball scheduled for that day. There are no needs for 1-game playoffs, and the StL-SF makeup game would be a day game if it even needs to be played at all.

 

[RayDio]

920 ESPN Radio always carries most of the postseason games.

 

[fred flintstone]

920 ESPN Radio always carries most of the postseason games.

Which brings us to point number (3): 920 ESPN has a bad signal. They should increase power.

 

[odomski]

It's not acceptable for the baseball playoffs to air on 920 AM because it's a Trenton station, and it has a bad signal in Philadelphia. Write to or call your local congressman and the FCC and DEMAND the baseball playoffs be aired on a Philadelphia station with a good signal that can be heard clearly all day and all night. We have to take a stand here. What does you think? Why or why not?

**I don't really mean a word of what I wrote. I could care less if out-of-town baseball games are aired in the Philadelphia market or not. I'm poking fun towards our favorite annoying R-I friend who loves out-of-market playoff games and Penn football play-by-play.**

 

[Jul]

I really hope is that WPEN or its sister stations or WPHT and its sister stations carry all the playoff games this year. If not then Philly is really a bad radio market.

 

[fred flintstone]

I really hope is that WPEN or its sister stations or WPHT and its sister stations carry all the playoff games this year. If not then Philly is really a bad radio market.

I thought you had already decided Philly is a bad radio market.
I just checked the WPHT, WNTP and Philly.com websites. No mention of play-off games being scheduled.

 

[Jul]

I thought you had already decided Philly is a bad radio market.
I just checked the WPHT, WNTP and Philly.com websites. No mention of play-off games being scheduled.

i don't think they will post that info on the sites

 

[odomski]

Julius: what is your response to Fred's comment that you stated in the past that Philadelphia is a bad radio market? What does you think?

Why does you think the newspaper site would not post sports play-by-play schedules? Why or why not?

 

[DERadio]

I'm sitting here smiling at the last few postings here...(I know it doesn't matter to you Shawn) but I think you're being a very good sport here (as opposed to the comments I made last week).

I am a BIG baseball fan. During the season, I'll watch any two teams play, simply because I love the game. The fact that I played through high school probably has something to do with it. However, once the post-season comes, if I want to stay on top of everything, I'm watching on TV, not listening on the radio. I can see the point some people make about the magic of baseball on the radio (old time memories, America's pasttime, etc.), but when you're talking playoffs and World Series, especially with out of town teams, the magic is what you can see!

Only my opinion, but as a big time baseball fan, I won't miss it on the radio at all.

 

[Jul]

Julius: what is your response to Fred's comment that you stated in the past that Philadelphia is a bad radio market? What does you think?

Why does you think the newspaper site would not post sports play-by-play schedules? Why or why not?

Becuase radio here is not a big thing like it once was. I should know that but being Philly as a top 10 radio market, we should be able to hear the games plus the media here is not good because they don't even post that play by play info anyway and don't get it right in the newspaper.

 

[fred flintstone]

Becuase radio here is not a big thing like it once was. I should know that but being Philly as a top 10 radio market, we should be able to hear the games plus the media here is not good because they don't even post that play by play info anyway and don't get it right in the newspaper.

Maybe they don't post info about play by play broadcasts of the play offs because there won't be any - at least not here.

Besides, there is a lot we don't get hear in Philadelphia (always has been). Philadelphia was the last major or large market to clear Rush Limbaugh. Philadelphia is the only major or large market not to clear Paul Harvey. Several formats are not heard in Philadelphia (but are heard in other large and major markets) including progressive talk. Part of the problem is lack of bandwidth: The radio band is pretty crowded in the Northeast corridor and Philly has fewer stations per capita than other large and major markets. And much of the problem is Philadelphia is Philadelphia.

All that said, you keep saying various sporting events SHOULD be on the radio. OK, why? Clearly, there is no longer much of an audience (or much advertiser interest). You never give a reason. Even you are watching the games on TV (along with everybody else). The only "reason" you ever give is "Philadelphia is the number six market," which makes absolutely no sense as a "reason" for airing play-offs in which no local team is involved. In fact, those broadcasts are more likely to be cleared in smaller markets than in large ones (less competition for listeners, local advertisers like to buy sports, small stations don't have much else to do).
So, please Julius: WHY? ("Philadelphia is a major market" and any reason involving the word "should" are not acceptable). Given lack of audience and advertiser interest - and the availability of games on TV - WHY?

ps: Just to show how little interest there is, I notice when the Radio Racket has had sports talk figures on, they somehow never got around to question of why no play-offs on either WIP or WPEN.

 

[odomski]

I have no reason to not be a good sport. It's not my fault that Julius refuses to accept what we say to him. Not everyone else likes what Julius is interested in. I was being a good sport when I offered to buy him blank audio tapes so he can roll airchecks on stations. I made the offer publicly in this very forum...and e-mailed Julius privately with my offer. He refused to accept my offer, but yet, he still came on here and demanded that people roll on the stations for him. He was posting the same demands on the Brand X Board also. He later told me his mother had enough money to get him tapes, then posted on this board two days later his family is broke and can't afford any extra-curricular materials. A fund drive was supposed to start so we could buy Julius an XM or Sirrius radio so he could listen to his out-of-market ball games. He refused to accept that offer too. There is no pleasing this kid. And people wonder why we supposedly "pick on" him.

What comments made last week? In what topic?

 

[fred flintstone]

Julius,

I just noticed that MLB.com charges $7.95 for the entire season for online audio of every game - both the home team and visiting team broadcasts - in English and Spanish (where they do that). Julius, you may still be the last person to use AOL dial-up. You could switch to Verizon DSL and save enough to pay for MLB game day audio.

Unfortunately, no partial rate just for the play-offs and the series.

Heck, at those prices, I'd sign up just hear Vin Scully - the last real play by play announcer left. And I have not - and will not ever - forgive the Dodgers for leaving Brooklyn. But Vin Scully shows how baseball should be done on the radio. More like him, and maybe people would listen to games on the radio.

 

[JimWilliams]

Flinstone...Mr. Flintstone?

While I agree with you that Vin Scully is hands down the greatest play by play man in baseball history, I disagree that he's the last "real play by play announcer left".

I know he's past his prime, but Harry Kalas still is a solid play by play voice (those years of drinking with Richie Ashburn are catching up with him fast though). Jon Miller is excellent too. Anything against Marty Brennaman in Cincinnati or Pat Hughes in Chicago (and Hughes gets bonus points for having to put up with Ron Santo)?

As to the whole Philadelphia radio airing baseball playoffs thing, it's just a medium that people aren't as interested in. TV has far eclipsed radio for baseball coverage. The only calls that we remember these days are those of either a) FOX's Joe Buck or b) the winning World Series' team's radio play by play man.

 

[Jul]

Maybe they don't post info about play by play broadcasts of the play offs because there won't be any - at least not here.

Besides, there is a lot we don't get hear in Philadelphia (always has been). Philadelphia was the last major or large market to clear Rush Limbaugh. Philadelphia is the only major or large market not to clear Paul Harvey. Several formats are not heard in Philadelphia (but are heard in other large and major markets) including progressive talk. Part of the problem is lack of bandwidth: The radio band is pretty crowded in the Northeast corridor and Philly has fewer stations per capita than other large and major markets. And much of the problem is Philadelphia is Philadelphia.

All that said, you keep saying various sporting events SHOULD be on the radio. OK, why? Clearly, there is no longer much of an audience (or much advertiser interest). You never give a reason. Even you are watching the games on TV (along with everybody else). The only "reason" you ever give is "Philadelphia is the number six market," which makes absolutely no sense as a "reason" for airing play-offs in which no local team is involved. In fact, those broadcasts are more likely to be cleared in smaller markets than in large ones (less competition for listeners, local advertisers like to buy sports, small stations don't have much else to do).
So, please Julius: WHY? ("Philadelphia is a major market" and any reason involving the word "should" are not acceptable). Given lack of audience and advertiser interest - and the availability of games on TV - WHY?

ps: Just to show how little interest there is, I notice when the Radio Racket has had sports talk figures on, they somehow never got around to question of why no play-offs on either WIP or WPEN.

Because I want to hear these games and everyone that is interested in the playoff should also be able to hear the games on radio if they are not near a Tv in this area. Yes I know that Philly doesn't care about these broadcasts but I DO and I want to hear them. I can't get Satellite radio because for one Westwoond One doesn't allow their national NFL games to be aired. As for the other things you mentioned, yes they should be heard here like Paul Harvey, etc. the Philliy stations are at fault for not clearing everything because they don't know how for some reason to porgram the stations the right way. WPHT would be a great place to put Harvey on but that's not going to happen because the PD at 1210 AM doesn't know how to program a station. Like Brusstar said on the Radio Racket show this week, the station sounds stale because of it. Back to the topic, I hope the games will air on the Philly stations starting Tuesday.

 

[Jul]

ESPN Radio Schedule of Baseball Playoffs so far

Tue Oct 3 A's @ Twins 12:35 pm
Tue Oct 3 Cardinals @ Padres 3:35 pm
Tue Oct 3 Tigers @ Yankees 7:35 pm
Wed Oct 4 A's @ Twins 12:35 pm
Wed Oct 4 Dodgers @ Mets 3:35 pm
Wed Oct 4 Tigers @ Yankees 7:35 pm
Thu Oct 5 Cardinals @ Padres 3:35 pm
Thu Oct 5 Dodgers @ Mets 7:35 pm
Fri Oct 6 Twins @ A's 3:35 pm
Fri Oct 6 Yankees @ Tigers 7:35 pm

All Times Eastern

 

[fred flintstone]

Because I want to hear these games and everyone that is interested in the playoff should also be able to hear the games on radio if they are not near a Tv in this area. Yes I know that Philly doesn't care about these broadcasts but I DO and I want to hear them. I can't get Satellite radio because for one Westwoond One doesn't allow their national NFL games to be aired. As for the other things you mentioned, yes they should be heard here like Paul Harvey, etc. the Philliy stations are at fault for not clearing everything because they don't know how for some reason to porgram the stations the right way. WPHT would be a great place to put Harvey on but that's not going to happen because the PD at 1210 AM doesn't know how to program a station. Like Brusstar said on the Radio Racket show this week, the station sounds stale because of it. Back to the topic, I hope the games will air on the Philly stations starting Tuesday.

So what I hear you saying is:
You want to hear the games so they should be on the radio.
As George said in another post, radio is not your private jukebox.
I'm fine that you want to hear the games. Everybody is entitled to want what they want.
Where I check out is when you start saying the games should be on the radio - because it's what you want.
And when you start telling people to call or write stations for you - because it's what you want.
And you admit you watch the games on TV anyway.
That's when you start sounding like a spoiled kid.

And NFL games are carried on Sirius Satellite Radio. Both the home and visiting team broadcasts and any national broadcasts, too (take your pick).

There's a lot of things more worthwhile in radio for you to worry about.

 

[Jul]

And when you start telling people to call or write stations for you - because it's what you want.
And you admit you watch the games on TV anyway.
That's when you start sounding like a spoiled kid.


There's a lot of things more worthwhile in radio for you to worry about.

You are right I'm a spolied kid. I said what I said to help this market get better. We all agree its crap right now but I wanted to do my part to fix it for everyone, not just me.