Bay Area Stations picked up In Hawaii

[travisl5678]

You Can See The thrad on the DX board but the list of stations picked up is below

KCBS-Lots of Fadeouts
KTRB-Strong
KFAX-Strong
KDIA-?

 

[Michael Rivers Kramer]

You Can See The thrad on the DX board but the list of stations picked up is below

KCBS-Lots of Fadeouts
KTRB-Strong
KFAX-Strong
KDIA-?

I picked up KABL 960 back in 2000 on Kauai

 

[DanStrassberg]

You Can See The thrad on the DX board but the list of stations picked up is below

KCBS-Lots of Fadeouts
KTRB-Strong
KFAX-Strong
KDIA-?

For skywave reception at that distance, I suspect that KTRB has the strongest signal in the general direction of HAWAII of any Bay area AM. And KFAX may be second. OTOH, although the FCC's formulas don't take this into account, there appears to be a stong advantage to having a site where the groundwave starts out over a high-conductivity ground (and salt water is the best such ground found in nature). KFAX has that, but KTRB (at night) does not. But KTRB's narrower pattern may compensate--especially if you are pretty much directly in front of the pattern. Anyone know whether KTRB's pattern maximum (at roughly 270 degrees) falls along the great circle that joins SF and Honolulu?

 

[travisl5678]

new stations logged last night
KGO-very weak
KMKY 1310

 

[kenrayc]

I've heard from a friend that they picked up KNBR in Hilo.

 

[SML]

KNBR in Hilo is a tough catch, due to KPUA on 670 khz. Same with KNX, as KIPA is on 1060 khz. KTRB comes in fairly well nearly every night over here. I hear KSFO many nights, but it is weak. AM 1200 in the Monterey Bay is fairly good here, and I can hear KRXA 540 khz in Camel Valley after local sunrise in California when they ramp up to daytime power.

 

[EastBay]

On the flipside, has anyone in the BA picked up any HI stations? I never have, though I've tried repeatedly. No luck with Alaska stations, either.

 

[DanStrassberg]

On the flipside, has anyone in the BA picked up any HI stations? I never have, though I've tried repeatedly. No luck with Alaska stations, either.

There used to be one exception--on 870--but I believe that is now gone (moved to 880 maybe and with lower power), but HI has no AMs more powerful than 10 kW, AFAIK, and no directional AMs. And while the AM dial is pretty crowded in HI--especially around Honolulu--it probably isn't quite as crowded as it is in the Bay Area. So the odds very much favor picking up mainland stations in HI but not being able to pick up HI stations on the mainland.

 

[only1deejayman]

while it's not really close to Hawaii, but I used to pick KMEL 106.1 FM in South Lake Tahoe, this of course was on a old dial tuner radio in my RV.

 

[MWLX]

Some 50+ years ago, I picked up two Honolulu stations utilizing my parents' big Magnavox AM radio in our Oakland living room. If memory serves, the signals were at 760AM and either 590AM or 650AM. The fascination of picking up these stations was tempered by knowledge that Japanese pilots also used Honolulu AMs as a homing beacon on a fateful day in 1941.

 

[DanStrassberg]

Some 50+ years ago, I picked up two Honolulu stations utilizing my parents' big Magnavox AM radio in our Oakland living room. If memory serves, the signals were at 760AM and either 590AM or 650AM. The fascination of picking up these stations was tempered by knowledge that Japanese pilots also used Honolulu AMs as a homing beacon on a fateful day in 1941.

Weren't 590 and 760 the only radio stations licensed to Honolulu until WWII ended? And during that period, wasn't Hilo the only other city in Hawaii that had a radio station? And what year did the FCC suddenly awaken to the fact that mainland AMs could cause nighttime co-channel interference to AMs in HI? That realization clearly did not come until after KFMB was allowed to increase to 50 kW-N directionalized to the west. And does anyone know (or have a clue about) KGU's NIF?

 

[travisl5678]

while it's not really close to Hawaii, but I used to pick KMEL 106.1 FM in South Lake Tahoe, this of course was on a old dial tuner radio in my RV.

I picked up KFRC 106.9 and KQED 88.5 on a recent trip to Colfax, KQED comes in better then KQEI up there

 

[kenrayc]

while it's not really close to Hawaii, but I used to pick KMEL 106.1 FM in South Lake Tahoe, this of course was on a old dial tuner radio in my RV.

I picked up KFRC 106.9 and KQED 88.5 on a recent trip to Colfax, KQED comes in better then KQEI up there

Back in the 80s before KSEQ 97.1 went on the air and KABX 97.5 moved there transmitter to the Sierras I used to get KROQ (KLLC now) 97.3 in Clovis. also before 94.3 Killer oldies and 94.5 KGEN I go KWSS 94.5 from Gilroy and 100.3 KBAY from SJ.

 

[Michael Rivers Kramer]

while it's not really close to Hawaii, but I used to pick KMEL 106.1 FM in South Lake Tahoe, this of course was on a old dial tuner radio in my RV.

I picked up KFRC 106.9 and KQED 88.5 on a recent trip to Colfax, KQED comes in better then KQEI up there

Back in the 80s before KSEQ 97.1 went on the air and KABX 97.5 moved there transmitter to the Sierras I used to get KROQ (KLLC now) 97.3 in Clovis. also before 94.3 Killer oldies and 94.5 KGEN I go KWSS 94.5 from Gilroy and 100.3 KBAY from SJ.

I'm sorry, but when I'm in Hawaii, I cannot even imagine being in Colfax or Clovis. :

 

[DaveBayArea]

Back in the 80s before KSEQ 97.1 went on the air and KABX 97.5 moved there transmitter to the Sierras I used to get KROQ (KLLC now) 97.3 in Clovis. also before 94.3 Killer oldies and 94.5 KGEN I go KWSS 94.5 from Gilroy and 100.3 KBAY from SJ.

In the early 1980's I installed a set of microwave relay stations in Southern CA. We staged our gear at a Motorola office in Santa Barbara, and I was surprised to hear KFAT (predecessor to KWSS) from Gilroy playing in their shop. Turns out they had an FM receiver on Frazier Peak that was picking up 94.5 from Loma Prieta. It got to the shop on Light Route microwave radio. Needless to say, the guys working there were FATheads.

Dave B.