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BBC Radio 1 = World's Best Station?

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I know there are a lot of supporters of BBC Radio 1, but I am going to have to say that their Pop product is brutal. I always knew that R1 was not a full out dance channel, but for the last several days, I havent heard any dance on there (at least in the afternoons and early evenings).

Some say that R1 is the world's best radio station (and I do agree on that statement as far as EDM goes), but the pop part of that station is one of the absolute worst I have heard. - just a weird, lame, boring mix of music.. and the jocks sound like they are going to start eating the mic.

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> I know there are a lot of supporters of BBC Radio 1, but I
> am going to have to say that their Pop product is brutal. I
> always knew that R1 was not a full out dance channel, but
> for the last several days, I havent heard any dance on there
> (at least in the afternoons and early evenings).

Radio 1's dance output is mostly Fri/Sat nights, like most pop stations in the UK. There is relatively little dance these days in mainstream pop, so very little gets played on Radio 1 outside the specific 'dance' hours these days, which have been cut back substantially because it's less popular these days.

London has 25 or so dance pirates for a reason.

> Some say that R1 is the world's best radio station (and I do
> agree on that statement as far as EDM goes), but the pop
> part of that station is one of the absolute worst I have
> heard. - just a weird, lame, boring mix of music.. and the
> jocks sound like they are going to start eating the mic.

I have to disagree (though I wouldn't go so far to say it's the "world's best radio station"), the music and presentation doesn't sound bad at all from here but maybe it's just a different style.
 
If all you're looking for is DANCE DANCE DANCE, then Radio 1 is not the best choice.

However, I think as a pop music station, Radio 1 has some of the best CHR presentation out there. I find myself listening a lot these days, no matter what's on.

I need to start hitting up more Radio 2, as it's said that's the most popular of the BBC stable.
 
> If all you're looking for is DANCE DANCE DANCE, then Radio 1
> is not the best choice.
>
> However, I think as a pop music station, Radio 1 has some of
> the best CHR presentation out there. I find myself
> listening a lot these days, no matter what's on.
>
> I need to start hitting up more Radio 2, as it's said that's
> the most popular of the BBC stable.
>

I drove around town from 7am - noon today while listening to R1... just not my cup of tea.

Way too much talking.. way too many skits (like karaoke)... and i heard one dance song all morning ("Pretty Green Eyes" song). Their hip-hop is on par.. but the rest was junk. Yea their sweepers are cool and all that.. but I want music.

I remember around 11 (i think)... they said it was 7:00... Im not sure if that was AM or PM... I do know the station's feedback is way off from being live.

Dont think im trying to bash the station on purpose... just a little disappointed that their non EDM shows are a little weak... and of course this is only my opinion.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > If all you're looking for is DANCE DANCE DANCE, then Radio
> 1
> > is not the best choice.
> >
> > However, I think as a pop music station, Radio 1 has some
> of
> > the best CHR presentation out there. I find myself
> > listening a lot these days, no matter what's on.
> >
> > I need to start hitting up more Radio 2, as it's said
> that's
> > the most popular of the BBC stable.
> >
>
> I drove around town from 7am - noon today while listening to
> R1... just not my cup of tea.
>
> Way too much talking.. way too many skits (like karaoke)...
> and i heard one dance song all morning ("Pretty Green Eyes"
> song). Their hip-hop is on par.. but the rest was junk. Yea
> their sweepers are cool and all that.. but I want music.
>
> I remember around 11 (i think)... they said it was 7:00...
> Im not sure if that was AM or PM... I do know the station's
> feedback is way off from being live.
>
> Dont think im trying to bash the station on purpose... just
> a little disappointed that their non EDM shows are a little
> weak... and of course this is only my opinion.
>
You must have caught it at a bad time. I always hear at least one, sometimes two dance songs an hour, during normal daytime rotation I agree that they talk more than I would prefer. However I have heard them mix in some Dance, and some Drum and Bass during their nighttime shows. The station pretty much sounds like Beat 106, in Scottland during normal rotation, and like R1, beat 106 airs specialty and Indie shows at night, and is very heavy on Dance on the weekends. What I think would be cool, if BBC aired Dance Programing every single night, starting at about 6.oo p.m WhaT do ya think? Thats what Beat 106 used to do. Rock leaned chr by day, and all dance at night.
 
>
> I remember around 11 (i think)... they said it was 7:00...
> Im not sure if that was AM or PM... I do know the station's
> feedback is way off from being live.
>
> Dont think im trying to bash the station on purpose...

Hey, I know you weren't bashing R1 on purpose. We're just talking about the station in general.

Speaking of that time check, I think that was a great idea of Sirius to timeshift the programming to match our times, so that when the dance programming comes on here, it will be at the right time: weekend. Neither here nor there, also a nice nod putting R1 on channel 97.
 
> > > If all you're looking for is DANCE DANCE DANCE, then
> Radio
> > 1
> > > is not the best choice.
> > >
> > > However, I think as a pop music station, Radio 1 has
> some
> > of
> > > the best CHR presentation out there. I find myself
> > > listening a lot these days, no matter what's on.
> > >
> > > I need to start hitting up more Radio 2, as it's said
> > that's
> > > the most popular of the BBC stable.
> > >
> >
> > I drove around town from 7am - noon today while listening
> to
> > R1... just not my cup of tea.
> >
> > Way too much talking.. way too many skits (like
> karaoke)...
> > and i heard one dance song all morning ("Pretty Green
> Eyes"
> > song). Their hip-hop is on par.. but the rest was junk.
> Yea
> > their sweepers are cool and all that.. but I want music.
> >
> > I remember around 11 (i think)... they said it was 7:00...
>
> > Im not sure if that was AM or PM... I do know the
> station's
> > feedback is way off from being live.
> >
> > Dont think im trying to bash the station on purpose...
> just
> > a little disappointed that their non EDM shows are a
> little
> > weak... and of course this is only my opinion.
> >
> You must have caught it at a bad time. I always hear at
> least one, sometimes two dance songs an hour, during normal
> daytime rotation I agree that they talk more than I would
> prefer. However I have heard them mix in some Dance, and
> some Drum and Bass during their nighttime shows. The
> station pretty much sounds like Beat 106, in Scottland
> during normal rotation, and like R1, beat 106 airs specialty
> and Indie shows at night, and is very heavy on Dance on the
> weekends. What I think would be cool, if BBC aired Dance
> Programing every single night, starting at about 6.oo p.m
> WhaT do ya think? Thats what Beat 106 used to do. Rock
> leaned chr by day, and all dance at night.
>

I definetely think there is way too much talking, but every time I listen there is about 2-3 dance songs per hour.
 
>
> I definetely think there is way too much talking, but every
> time I listen there is about 2-3 dance songs per hour.
>

Ah, but here I think we need to get a clear indication of how each of us is listening to Radio 1.

If you're listening online, you're getting a live broadcast from across the pond that's ahead a couple of hours. Might mean that you're getting more of a mix of music at night there, which is afternoon here.

If you're listening via Sirius, you're getting the time shifted version, which means you 're getting a different sounding R1 for your ride into work and your ride home, which might not dip into the dance pile as often.

Just a thought.
 
Why? Because there isn't any mainstream dance product that's out at the moment in the UK that fits the "hit" ratio. R1 plays all styles of music, usually the biggest and the best GEARED to a UK populace. If they aren't playing dance hits, it's because...there isn't any dance hits to play.


Right now, there are not alot of big dance hits in the UK. HMV.co.uk will confirm that....and what was around, well it's burned out.

I realize I'll get flamed for this, as I again challenge dance music and what it's producing as hits. But don't bash me, bash the BBC. What would they know? The biggest most influential FM signal in the English speaking world staffed with some of the best musical minds in the world (and the best if you include the late John Peel). A single station with a CUME of 13 million in a country of 66 million.

R1 plays what's big, whats about to be released and what works in the UK. If they aren't playing dance, don't blame the station, blame the labels that aren't releasing any quality dance music (or blame the artists). It's part of the fabric of the UK and R1 IS the fabric of the UK. It's a cultural institution.


I know there are a lot of supporters of BBC Radio 1, but I
> am going to have to say that their Pop product is brutal. I
> always knew that R1 was not a full out dance channel, but
> for the last several days, I havent heard any dance on there
> (at least in the afternoons and early evenings).
>
> Some say that R1 is the world's best radio station (and I do
> agree on that statement as far as EDM goes), but the pop
> part of that station is one of the absolute worst I have
> heard. - just a weird, lame, boring mix of music.. and the
> jocks sound like they are going to start eating the mic.
>
> just an oberservation.
>
 
> I know there are a lot of supporters of BBC Radio 1, but I
> am going to have to say that their Pop product is brutal. I
> always knew that R1 was not a full out dance channel, but
> for the last several days, I havent heard any dance on there
> (at least in the afternoons and early evenings).
>
> Some say that R1 is the world's best radio station (and I do
> agree on that statement as far as EDM goes), but the pop
> part of that station is one of the absolute worst I have
> heard. - just a weird, lame, boring mix of music.. and the
> jocks sound like they are going to start eating the mic.
>
> just an oberservation.
>
 
> >
> > I definetely think there is way too much talking, but
> every
> > time I listen there is about 2-3 dance songs per hour.
> >
>
> Ah, but here I think we need to get a clear indication of
> how each of us is listening to Radio 1.
>
> If you're listening online, you're getting a live broadcast
> from across the pond that's ahead a couple of hours. Might
> mean that you're getting more of a mix of music at night
> there, which is afternoon here.
>
> If you're listening via Sirius, you're getting the time
> shifted version, which means you 're getting a different
> sounding R1 for your ride into work and your ride home,
> which might not dip into the dance pile as often.
>
> Just a thought.
>

I listen on Sirius. I was talking about during the afternoon. At night, it's actually harder to hear dance music, unless they are playing an actual dance mix which I don't believe they have every night.
 
Why R1 doesn't play much dance at night.

Evenings on R1 have always been rock leaning....partially due to John Peel being on the air.

John Peel is a legendary DJ, and in my opinion, the best musicolgist of the 20th century. John played every style of music, even DnB, and much of his program was about discovery. When John died, some of the worlds most influential and popular artists thanked him for playing their record and breaking them out. If you read a biography on John Peel, you'll discover much of the new sounds over the past 25 years were played first by him. Not in one format, but in many. Even the UK's Prime Minister publicly acknowledged the impact John Peel had on the United Kingdom.

So that might explain why there isn't alot of mainstream dance hits in the evening. It just wasn't about playing Mynt.
 
Wrong! Wrong ! WRONG! :)

There's been more Dance hits inside the UK Top 20 lately then there were 6 months ago. There have also been more inside the Top 10.
BBC Radio 1, like many other CHRs in Europe and America, will play more Dance music in rotation AFTER 12 PM. Even 103.5 KTU does that!
So, if you were to listen to BBC Radio 1 between 5 AM to 7 AM online, which means 11 PM-1 AM East Coast time, or if you were listen to Sirius after we hit the noon hour, then you'll notice more Dance music.
What's wrong with a station where there's more Talk? Especially in the morning? Especially on a station that plays NO COMMERCIALS!? :) God forbid you actually listen to "personalities" who know a thing or two about what's going on in the world outside of music.
The BBC Jocks are good, the music mix is very good, and the bits of information, as well as the top of the hour news, is great.

Dance is also making a comeback on one of Europe's other leading CHRs. I'm talking about Radio Deejay from Italy, which cumes over 5 million listeners DAILY. They were very Dance friendly, or even Dance heavy, from the late 70s to the mid 90s. Then they decided to become a bit more Talk-intensive, and go with a more Mainstream Pop approach. Well, now it seems like Radio Deejay is playing MORe current and Recurrent Dance, and focusing primarily on the music. This again holds true especially after 12 PM (Central European Time zone).
 
> Why? Because there isn't any mainstream dance product
> that's out at the moment in the UK that fits the "hit"
> ratio.

Dude,

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Re: Wrong! Wrong ! WRONG! :)

> There's been more Dance hits inside the UK Top 20 lately
> then there were 6 months ago. There have also been more
> inside the Top 10.
> BBC Radio 1, like many other CHRs in Europe and America,
> will play more Dance music in rotation AFTER 12 PM. Even
> 103.5 KTU does that!
> So, if you were to listen to BBC Radio 1 between 5 AM to 7
> AM online, which means 11 PM-1 AM East Coast time, or if you
> were listen to Sirius after we hit the noon hour, then
> you'll notice more Dance music.
> What's wrong with a station where there's more Talk?
> Especially in the morning? Especially on a station that
> plays NO COMMERCIALS!? :) God forbid you actually listen to
> "personalities" who know a thing or two about what's going
> on in the world outside of music.
> The BBC Jocks are good, the music mix is very good, and the
> bits of information, as well as the top of the hour news, is
> great.
>
> Dance is also making a comeback on one of Europe's other
> leading CHRs. I'm talking about Radio Deejay from Italy,
> which cumes over 5 million listeners DAILY. They were very
> Dance friendly, or even Dance heavy, from the late 70s to
> the mid 90s. Then they decided to become a bit more
> Talk-intensive, and go with a more Mainstream Pop approach.
> Well, now it seems like Radio Deejay is playing MORe current
> and Recurrent Dance, and focusing primarily on the music.
> This again holds true especially after 12 PM (Central
> European Time zone).
>

What's wrong with a station where there's more Talk? Especially in the morning? Especially on a station that plays NO COMMERCIALS!? :) God forbid you actually listen to "personalities" who know a thing or two about what's going on in the world outside of music.
The BBC Jocks are good, the music mix is very good, and the bits of information, as well as the top of the hour news, is great.

CHRles, the whole time difference thing is screwing me up (I have no idea if it's afternoon, morning, night.. I simply don't know)... but honestly man, I don’t mind hearing quality jocks, but the chick on there today talked about "dog poo" for 30 solid minutes. I even parked the car, ran into the post office, came back to my car.. and they were still talking about "dog poo", with the same call-in chick on the phone.

Have you ever heard the MJ Morning show on FLZ where MJ will get on some lame topic for 15 minutes and will ramble on and on and on until he beats it into the ground? That’s what I feel like (times 2) every time I tune into this station during the afternoon. They get on lame topics and they don’t stop. It is just "bloody" boring. They'll play one or 2 songs.. then talk forever... and I know whatever I was listening to was their AFTERNOON show because she said a few times about "sorry if anybody is eating their lunch while we talk about dog poo... unles lunch is at 10am over there I have no idea.

Today during a 2 hour "errand run" around town, I heard ONE dance song.. It was Lee Cabrera - "Shake It".. Then I heard like 8 awful songs that I have never heard of.. Then the rest was talk. AM I LISTENING TO A DIFFERENT TOP 40 SHOW THAT EVERYBODY IS RAVING ABOUT? Perhaps Im hearing a UK Music only type show or something?

There's no denying that R1 is on top of their dance product at night and on the weekends. Hands down, it's the best out there... but during the daytime.. The station is weak... That was the whole point of my post... it just disappointed me that's all.

During the daytimes, I expected to hear quality rhythmic Top 40, with a lot of dance flavor thrown in... I always thought that was R1, but I thought wrong (In my opinion).
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When I listen to BBC

I start at 6 15AM, I listen all morning, all afternoon, and on the way home I drive home to Zane Lowe (Hew this week). When I get home, I sometimes throw it on.

I work every other weekend and have BBC on because I sit in front of a bunch of computers (and a whole lot more monitors).

I know what's on BBC CHRles. Since getting Sirius, I rarely change the station even. My online listening (outside of BBC at work on Sirius) has dropped dramatically. Weeks since I've tuned in the usual regulars (97, Metro, 98.1).

So mate, I know what's on BBC. "lock it on and rip the knob off" as they used to say.
 
Re: When I listen to BBC

Including commuting and weekend rollouts, 75 hours of week = 75 hours of BBC (give or take a few minutes when I go pee or stop to eat).


I start at 6 15AM, I listen all morning, all afternoon, and
> on the way home I drive home to Zane Lowe (Hew this week).
> When I get home, I sometimes throw it on.
>
> I work every other weekend and have BBC on because I sit in
> front of a bunch of computers (and a whole lot more
> monitors).
>
> I know what's on BBC CHRles. Since getting Sirius, I rarely
> change the station even. My online listening (outside of
> BBC at work on Sirius) has dropped dramatically. Weeks
> since I've tuned in the usual regulars (97, Metro, 98.1).
>
> So mate, I know what's on BBC. "lock it on and rip the knob
> off" as they used to say.
>
 
Re: Wrong! Wrong ! WRONG! :)

Well mate, life is more than dance music, and the bbc is a MUSIC station. It's not a dance station. The beeb never has been. Where did you get that idea?

As for the rubbish you heard, well that's your opinion. Most of what the UK plays is quality music of all formats. It's certainly superior to the non stop voiceless beatbox with 100 songs that most American radio is.

As the Moyles liner says "We're in the USA, so put down your hot dogs & your guns and say hip hip hooray"




> Today during a 2 hour "errand run" around town, I heard ONE
> dance song.. It was Lee Cabrera - "Shake It".. Then I heard
> like 8 awful songs that I have never heard of.. Then the
> rest was talk. AM I LISTENING TO A DIFFERENT TOP 40 SHOW
> THAT EVERYBODY IS RAVING ABOUT? Perhaps Im hearing a UK
> Music only type show or something?
>
> There's no denying that R1 is on top of their dance product
> at night and on the weekends. Hands down, it's the best out
> there... but during the daytime.. The station is weak...
> That was the whole point of my post... it just disappointed
> me that's all.
>
> During the daytimes, I expected to hear quality rhythmic Top
> 40, with a lot of dance flavor thrown in... I always thought
> that was R1, but I thought wrong (In my opinion).
>
 
Re: Wrong! Wrong ! WRONG! :)

> Well mate, life is more than dance music, and the bbc is a
> MUSIC station. It's not a dance station. The beeb never
> has been. Where did you get that idea?
>
> As for the rubbish you heard, well that's your opinion.
> Most of what the UK plays is quality music of all formats.
> It's certainly superior to the non stop voiceless beatbox
> with 100 songs that most American radio is.
>
> As the Moyles liner says "We're in the USA, so put down your
> hot dogs & your guns and say hip hip hooray"

Where did you get that idea?

Well considering they have been Dance Radio Station of the Year for the past 4 years at DanceStar and WMC.. ummm, i sort of kind of thought that. I mean, if a Country Radio Station won Country Radio Station of the Year, I would think that the country station picked would probably lean very heavily on Country Music. Sorry, I dont sit there on the BBC website all day listening to their stream so I really dont know what they play. I was just making an observation about their POP/TOP 40 shows... I was hoping that the station would be more RHY leaning with a heavy dose of dance music... which is totally not the case in the afternoons. Thats the whole point of my first post.

Well mate, life is more than dance music

Life maybe more than Dance music, but this board is about dance music. So, how about taking your negative dance comments to another board. For the past 6-8 months, you have done nothing but bash this music.. and this is a great year for dance music. For someone who thinks that Milky's song is one of the best out there right now... tells me that you really dont know much about dance music.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Wrong! Wrong ! WRONG! :)

Well mate, WMC is American, right? So perhaps the Americans don't get what the BBC is about? It has never been a dance station, it never will be. It's a music station that is block programming. If you take the time to go back in this forum, way back, you'll see how I made the point that BBC is not dance station, regardless of them winning this "award".

> Well considering they have been Dance Radio Station of the
> Year for the past 4 years at DanceStar and WMC.. ummm, i
> sort of kind of thought that. I mean, if a Country Radio
> Station won Country Radio Station of the Year, I would think
> that the country station picked would probably lean very
> heavily on Country Music. Sorry, I dont sit there on the BBC
> website all day listening to their stream so I really dont
> know what they play. I was just making an observation about
> their POP/TOP 40 shows... I was hoping that the station
> would be more RHY leaning with a heavy dose of dance
> music... which is totally not the case in the afternoons.
>
> Well mate, life is more than dance music

No, I said I liked Milky. If you step outside your little hate for me and read what I write, you might see I was commenting on the state of dance pop. No where have I commented on the state of deep house, hard trance, goa or anything else for that matter. FM radio doesn't play that music, and in case you aren't aware, the American audience isn't open to it and hasn't been for half a decade.

As for your snitty little comment about my knowledge of "dance" music based on the fact I said I liked Milky, well it rings of your arrogance, not mine. Let me toss a barb your way mate. You're likely nothing more than some aging clubster that can't get over the fact that not a bloody soul gives a rats ass about your "electronic" music, regardless of your massive ego fueled by 1Club FM.

If you don't like what I write, don't read it. If you don't like the BBC, then don't listen to it. Problem is, just like far to many ravers you believe that if you don't like it, it's rubbish.

I'm quite aware that this forum is about dance music. The entire genre, not your narrow snitty opinion of it.




> Life maybe more than Dance music, but this board is about
> dance music. So, how about taking your negative, clueless
> dance comments to another board. For the past 6-8 months,
> you have done nothing but bash this music.. and the entire
> time you are completley clueless about the music. For
> someone who thinks that Milky's song is one of the best out
> there right now... tells me you dont know much about
> anything that has to do with dance music.
>
 
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