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BBN dropping a program

This morning on the Bible Broadcasting Network, Lowell Davey mentioned the network dropping one of the ministries it carries, but didn't say which one was dropped. I know they dropped Focus on the Family a few weeks ago, saying its content had grown too political. Does anyone know if another program has been dropped or if this was residual discussion of Focus? I tuned in during the middle of the commentary. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by RadioDaze on 01/11/06 03:24 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> This morning on the Bible Broadcasting Network, Lowell Davey
> mentioned the network dropping one of the ministries it
> carries, but didn't say which one was dropped. I know they
> dropped Focus on the Family a few weeks ago, saying its
> content had grown too political. Does anyone know if
> another program has been dropped or if this was residual
> discussion of Focus? I tuned in during the middle of the
> commentary.
>
I think Family Radio dropped FotF some years ago for the same reason.
 
Re: BBN dropping a program & SALT

Over the last few years some stations have dropped Focus On The Family, claiming it's "too political". By taking a stand on issues the program has become salty and who expects Christians to be salt, anyway?

> This morning on the Bible Broadcasting Network, Lowell Davey
> mentioned the network dropping one of the ministries it
> carries, but didn't say which one was dropped. I know they
> dropped Focus on the Family a few weeks ago, saying its
> content had grown too political. Does anyone know if
> another program has been dropped or if this was residual
> discussion of Focus? I tuned in during the middle of the
> commentary.
 
Re: BBN dropping a program & SALT

> Over the last few years some stations have dropped Focus On
> The Family, claiming it's "too political". By taking a
> stand on issues the program has become salty and who expects
> Christians to be salt, anyway?

You're being kind of ridiculous. Your above comment is a non-sequitur. Taking a stand is one thing, which I agree should be done in certain cases. However, the general feeling that is leading to these kind of decisions is that Focus On The Family (the daily program not the ministry as a whole) is becoming a talking point for the republican party. The speed in this direction seems to be accelerating in the past few years.

There are a lot of current political issues that have family-related ramifications. Focus just needs to do a better job of picking the right battles (no pun intended :)). Depending on how one looks at issues in our world, everything could become a political issue.

We need to remember that republican and Christian are NOT synonyms. There are many evil people in the Republican Party and conversely there are many Christians outside the Republican Party. Jimmy Carter is a name that comes to mind.

Being a Christian broadcaster, I try to remind myself regularly that there is a good portion of our audience who are not members of the Republican Party, not to mention the huge non-audience who needs to hear the Gospel (on Christian radio), but would be turned off by overtly political messages (as opposed to strictly moral messages which may have political overtones).

HR

P.S. I would like to mention that I am personally very conservative and have historically voted mostly republican. I am trying to speak objectively (if that is even possible).
 
FOTF's "Life on the Edge"

I hate to hear FOTF's decision last October to drop the teen help program "Life on the Edge." The hosts did a fabulous drop reaching out to the teens. On the last show, several teens called in to express their appreciation and that they will miss the show. The fact that the program probably didn't have many affiliates on the FM band may have created some downfalls. However, the 9pm-11pm Saturday night shift was a good time period for such a show. Hopefully, Dawson McAllister will hang in there. As far as I know, he is about the only teen help talk show host available on radio.


> > Over the last few years some stations have dropped Focus
> On
> > The Family, claiming it's "too political". By taking a
> > stand on issues the program has become salty and who
> expects
> > Christians to be salt, anyway?
>
> You're being kind of ridiculous. Your above comment is a
> non-sequitur. Taking a stand is one thing, which I agree
> should be done in certain cases. However, the general
> feeling that is leading to these kind of decisions is that
> Focus On The Family (the daily program not the ministry as a
> whole) is becoming a talking point for the republican party.
> The speed in this direction seems to be accelerating in the
> past few years.
>
> There are a lot of current political issues that have
> family-related ramifications. Focus just needs to do a
> better job of picking the right battles (no pun intended
> :)). Depending on how one looks at issues in our world,
> everything could become a political issue.
>
> We need to remember that republican and Christian are NOT
> synonyms. There are many evil people in the Republican
> Party and conversely there are many Christians outside the
> Republican Party. Jimmy Carter is a name that comes to
> mind.
>
> Being a Christian broadcaster, I try to remind myself
> regularly that there is a good portion of our audience who
> are not members of the Republican Party, not to mention the
> huge non-audience who needs to hear the Gospel (on Christian
> radio), but would be turned off by overtly political
> messages (as opposed to strictly moral messages which may
> have political overtones).
>
> HR
>
> P.S. I would like to mention that I am personally very
> conservative and have historically voted mostly republican.
> I am trying to speak objectively (if that is even possible).
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by The RadioFan on 01/13/06 04:18 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: FOTF's "Life on the Edge"

> I hate to hear FOTF's decision last October to drop the teen
> help program "Life on the Edge." The hosts did a fabulous
> drop reaching out to the teens. On the last show, several
> teens called in to express their appreciation and that they
> will miss the show. The fact that the program probably
> didn't have many affiliates on the FM band may have created
> some downfalls. However, the 9pm-11pm Saturday night shift
> was a good time period for such a show. Hopefully, Dawson
> McAllister will hang in there. As far as I know, he is
> about the only teen help talk show host available on radio.
>

Dawson McAllister's Call in show is now heard on many Clear Channel stations and other stations in a "commericalized" Version after his non com show on Sunday nights. I dont think he's quitting anytime soon!

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Re: FOTF's "Life on the Edge"

> I hate to hear FOTF's decision last October to drop the teen
> help program "Life on the Edge." The hosts did a fabulous
> drop reaching out to the teens. On the last show, several
> teens called in to express their appreciation and that they
> will miss the show. The fact that the program probably
> didn't have many affiliates on the FM band may have created
> some downfalls. However, the 9pm-11pm Saturday night shift
> was a good time period for such a show. Hopefully, Dawson
> McAllister will hang in there. As far as I know, he is
> about the only teen help talk show host available on radio.

I was sort of disappointed when i heard about Life On The Edge too. You kind of answered the question though. They had barely any FM affiliates and most kids in their age demographic are not going to be listening to AM on Saturday night, if ever. The kids dealing with the issues that they handle are even less likely to be scanning the AM band. I am just not very surprised by the cancellation.

As far as Dawson McAllister is concerned, they have been adjusting their formula as of late, re-branding the program as DM Live and buying time on CHR and CHR/Rhythmic stations. I think these are all moves in the right direction.

I know that they are dealing with heavy topics, but I wish they would stay more upbeat. Love Line covers a lot of the same topics (albeit from a very different approach) and still manage to stay entertaining and interesting. I am not a regular listener of DM Live(we air the program), but when I have listened in the past, I have felt so depressed after the program that I thought maybe I should call and get some help.

HR
 
Re: FOTF's "Life on the Edge"

> > I hate to hear FOTF's decision last October to drop the
> teen
> > help program "Life on the Edge." The hosts did a fabulous
> > drop reaching out to the teens. On the last show, several
> > teens called in to express their appreciation and that
> they
> > will miss the show. The fact that the program probably
> > didn't have many affiliates on the FM band may have
> created
> > some downfalls. However, the 9pm-11pm Saturday night shift
>
> > was a good time period for such a show. Hopefully, Dawson
> > McAllister will hang in there. As far as I know, he is
> > about the only teen help talk show host available on
> radio.
>
> I was sort of disappointed when i heard about Life On The
> Edge too. You kind of answered the question though. They
> had barely any FM affiliates and most kids in their age
> demographic are not going to be listening to AM on Saturday
> night, if ever. The kids dealing with the issues that they
> handle are even less likely to be scanning the AM band. I
> am just not very surprised by the cancellation.
>
> As far as Dawson McAllister is concerned, they have been
> adjusting their formula as of late, re-branding the program
> as DM Live and buying time on CHR and CHR/Rhythmic stations.
> I think these are all moves in the right direction.
>
> I know that they are dealing with heavy topics, but I wish
> they would stay more upbeat. Love Line covers a lot of the
> same topics (albeit from a very different approach) and
> still manage to stay entertaining and interesting. I am not
> a regular listener of DM Live(we air the program), but when
> I have listened in the past, I have felt so depressed after
> the program that I thought maybe I should call and get some
> help.
>
> HR
>

WCRV AM 640 in Memphis used to carry Dawson Mcallister Live, then later Life on the Edge, and then back to DM on Sunday nights as their token youth program, but I really doubt if they have many younger listeners for it since they do nothing else youth oriented the rest of the week. DM Live is also on WAY-FM on Sunday nights as their only non-music program. I'd imagine the program does better there.
 
Re: BBN dropping a program & SALT

"Salt" doesn't mean that you advocate "to be a Christian, you must have the following political beliefs and vote for the following candidates".

Claiming that you know exactly how God would vote is a bit arrogant.

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Re: BBN dropping a program & SALT

To be pro-life based on Psalm 139 and to agree with the Bible that homosexuality is sin as stated in Romans 1, are not political beliefs. Not every Republican is pro-life and not every Democrat is pro-abortion. Dobson doesn't promote a certain political party, he supports those whose views most closely match the Biblical view of the subject.

> "Salt" doesn't mean that you advocate "to be a Christian,
> you must have the following political beliefs and vote for
> the following candidates".
 
Re: BBN dropping a program & SALT

> > Over the last few years some stations have dropped Focus
> > On The Family, claiming it's "too political". By taking a
> > stand on issues the program has become salty and who
> > expects Christians to be salt, anyway?
>
> You're being kind of ridiculous. Your above comment is a
> non-sequitur. Taking a stand is one thing, which I agree
> should be done in certain cases. However, the general
> feeling that is leading to these kind of decisions is that
> Focus On The Family (the daily program not the ministry as a
> whole) is becoming a talking point for the republican party.

So are you saying to be pro-life and to maintain that homosexuality is sin is being Republican?

> There are a lot of current political issues that have
> family-related ramifications. Focus just needs to do a
> better job of picking the right battles. Depending on how one looks at
> issues in our world, everything could become a political issue.

So then are you saying that Christians should not express their views on issues because that's "being political"?
 
re: SALT

Mighty Frenchman wrote:
"Over the last few years some stations have dropped Focus On The Family, claiming it's "too political". "

I think this statement really is on point. The program Focus on the Family has evolved a bit over the years. While it is wonderful that there is a platform for the political views often expressed, and the moral issues covered...there is also a real difference in airing a program that deals with parenting, homelife, marriage, children, and relationships vs. a program that covers issues that impact society as a whole.

I'm not saying that these political and moral issues don't relate to the family. But it may be that stations opting out of the program are looking for less "issues" and more "everyday relate".

And one would have to agree that FOF has definitely incorporated more of these "issues" based programs (sometimes, preempting at the last minute), than in previous years. While still covering the "everyday relate", but perhaps with less frequency than before.

Of course, FOF is not the only program covering either of these topics. So, the thread really is not meant to be spefically about that program. It is used as an example only for point.

All sorts of different programs come and go, and there are platforms available for all.

And that is really the PD's choice. With a limited amount of airtime available, the station makes choices based on what their listeners say they want, or what the station represents for them.

Again, I'm not advocating a position on this either way, but I think a quick assumption is made that "anti-political programming" is equal to not caring about these issues. That may not be the case at all, but rather a desire to create a different environment and atmosphere in a station's broadcast day.

e

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Re: re: SALT

I think programs like Family News in Focus, FOTF...etc. are fantastic programs.

But it's not something that I would sit down with my wife and listen to definitely expecting to find something helpful for my marriage anymore.

For that, I usually would go to Family Life today with Dennis Rainey and Bob Lepine. They seem to have stayed a bit more "focussed" on the family.

Don't get me wrong. Dobson has done some great things for the family and I'm sure he continues to. But his program is no longer something that I turn on "knowing" that I'll find something applicable to my daily life. I'm sure those subject matters are still addressed on FOTF at times. But lately when I've stumbled across the program it has almost without exception about political or social issues.

Just my personal observation.










> Mighty Frenchman wrote:
> "Over the last few years some stations have dropped Focus On
> The Family, claiming it's "too political". "
>
> I think this statement really is on point. The program Focus
> on the Family has evolved a bit over the years. While it is
> wonderful that there is a platform for the political views
> often expressed, and the moral issues covered...there is
> also a real difference in airing a program that deals with
> parenting, homelife, marriage, children, and relationships
> vs. a program that covers issues that impact society as a
> whole.
>
> I'm not saying that these political and moral issues don't
> relate to the family. But it may be that stations opting out
> of the program are looking for less "issues" and more
> "everyday relate".
>
> And one would have to agree that FOF has definitely
> incorporated more of these "issues" based programs
> (sometimes, preempting at the last minute), than in previous
> years. While still covering the "everyday relate", but
> perhaps with less frequency than before.
>
> Of course, FOF is not the only program covering either of
> these topics. So, the thread really is not meant to be
> spefically about that program. It is used as an example only
> for point.
>
> All sorts of different programs come and go, and there are
> platforms available for all.
>
> And that is really the PD's choice. With a limited amount of
> airtime available, the station makes choices based on what
> their listeners say they want, or what the station
> represents for them.
>
> Again, I'm not advocating a position on this either way, but
> I think a quick assumption is made that "anti-political
> programming" is equal to not caring about these issues. That
> may not be the case at all, but rather a desire to create a
> different environment and atmosphere in a station's
> broadcast day.
>
> e
>
 
Re: FOTF's "Life on the Edge"

I have tremendous respect for Dawson.

He's hung in there long after many others would have cashed it in.

This is a man who's doing what he does out of love for the kids.


> I hate to hear FOTF's decision last October to drop the teen
> help program "Life on the Edge." The hosts did a fabulous
> drop reaching out to the teens. On the last show, several
> teens called in to express their appreciation and that they
> will miss the show. The fact that the program probably
> didn't have many affiliates on the FM band may have created
> some downfalls. However, the 9pm-11pm Saturday night shift
> was a good time period for such a show. Hopefully, Dawson
> McAllister will hang in there. As far as I know, he is
> about the only teen help talk show host available on radio.
>
>
>
> > > Over the last few years some stations have dropped Focus
>
> > On
> > > The Family, claiming it's "too political". By taking a
> > > stand on issues the program has become salty and who
> > expects
> > > Christians to be salt, anyway?
> >
> > You're being kind of ridiculous. Your above comment is a
> > non-sequitur. Taking a stand is one thing, which I agree
> > should be done in certain cases. However, the general
> > feeling that is leading to these kind of decisions is that
>
> > Focus On The Family (the daily program not the ministry as
> a
> > whole) is becoming a talking point for the republican
> party.
> > The speed in this direction seems to be accelerating in
> the
> > past few years.
> >
> > There are a lot of current political issues that have
> > family-related ramifications. Focus just needs to do a
> > better job of picking the right battles (no pun intended
> > :)). Depending on how one looks at issues in our world,
> > everything could become a political issue.
> >
> > We need to remember that republican and Christian are NOT
> > synonyms. There are many evil people in the Republican
> > Party and conversely there are many Christians outside the
>
> > Republican Party. Jimmy Carter is a name that comes to
> > mind.
> >
> > Being a Christian broadcaster, I try to remind myself
> > regularly that there is a good portion of our audience who
>
> > are not members of the Republican Party, not to mention
> the
> > huge non-audience who needs to hear the Gospel (on
> Christian
> > radio), but would be turned off by overtly political
> > messages (as opposed to strictly moral messages which may
> > have political overtones).
> >
> > HR
> >
> > P.S. I would like to mention that I am personally very
> > conservative and have historically voted mostly
> republican.
> > I am trying to speak objectively (if that is even
> possible).
> >
>
 
Re: BBN dropping a program & SALT

Being "pro-life" or believeing that homosexuality is a sin is quite different from attempting to seize the police power of the state to force those who have a different view to comply with yours is an entirely different thing. I still find it interesting that Jesus never was quoted as saying "I am come that homosexuality be wiped from the face of the earth". How come the only "moral" isues have to do with sex to fundamentalists?<P ID="signature">______________
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