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BCN vs SIRIUS, Sirius vs. XM

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fccfight

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If Sirius still has that "free 3 weeks" on HowardStern.com I'll try 'em out.
Maybe Patti Smith will be playing live and getting broadcast again like last year.

It would be nice if BCN took a "Satellite" kind of approach - read - go back to what once made them great. More live broadcasts of cool groups - not the current junk that is out there - and instead of Lee Roth, it might be nice to have a revolving door of "star" personalities. That would get me to tune in more.

I just can see paying for XM or Sirius when there are so many other things to listen to - like the 1200 free Grateful Dead concerts on http://www.archive.org or .com - and tons of other free concerts available for download.

Anyone thought of broadcasting some of this great stuff on terror-give-it-a-restrial radio? Instead of MikeFM, what about an Ipod of mainstream yet underground stuff - material off the "rare" Stones CD available at Starbucks
(not worth buying but might be worth listening to for free).
 
> If Sirius still has that "free 3 weeks" on HowardStern.com
> I'll try 'em out.
> Maybe Patti Smith will be playing live and getting broadcast
> again like last year.
>
> It would be nice if BCN took a "Satellite" kind of approach
> - read - go back to what once made them great. More live
> broadcasts of cool groups - not the current junk that is out
> there - and instead of Lee Roth, it might be nice to have a
> revolving door of "star" personalities. That would get me
> to tune in more.
>
> I just can see paying for XM or Sirius when there are so
> many other things to listen to - like the 1200 free Grateful
> Dead concerts on http://www.archive.org or .com - and tons
> of other free concerts available for download.
>
> Anyone thought of broadcasting some of this great stuff on
> terror-give-it-a-restrial radio? Instead of MikeFM, what
> about an Ipod of mainstream yet underground stuff - material
> off the "rare" Stones CD available at Starbucks
> (not worth buying but might be worth listening to for free).
>
No because those formats would draw an audience of one, you.
 
> It would be nice if BCN took a "Satellite" kind of approach
> - read - go back to what once made them great. More live
> broadcasts of cool groups

There will never be another local live broadcast of a band on BCN. Because that very guy you hate Oedipus was the driving force behind local live broadcasts. With him gone you will never hear them again. It's very sad but that's the fact Jack! I mean Joe.
 
> This subject has already been covered, can we move on
> please?

If you're a moderator, why don't you have the yellow "M" next to your name?
 
It can only go downhill from here. (no txt)

> > This subject has already been covered, can we move on
> > please?
>
> If you're a moderator, why don't you have the yellow "M"
> next to your name?

It can only go downhill from here.
 
Don't give credit to someone who rode the coat-tails of those who did the
great programming - men like Charlie Kendall.

Oedipus can't take credit for the T Rex broadcast - first concert by
Bolan on the American shores. In fact, the quality of the live broadcasts
dropped dramatically after Oedipus took over. Charlie Kendall, Mad Max The First, Charles, those individuals did the hard work.

But this comment presumes that you know what you are talking about, and that's presuming too much. FCC Fight doesn't "hate" anyone, nor do you have the name
correct. Keep guessing.

> > It would be nice if BCN took a "Satellite" kind of
> approach
> > - read - go back to what once made them great. More live
> > broadcasts of cool groups
>
> There will never be another local live broadcast of a band
> on BCN. Because that very guy you hate Oedipus was the
> driving force behind local live broadcasts. With him gone
> you will never hear them again. It's very sad but that's the
> fact Jack! I mean Joe.
>
 
> > I just can see paying for XM or Sirius when there are so
> > many other things to listen to - like the 1200 free
> Grateful
> > Dead concerts on http://www.archive.org or .com - and tons
>
> > of other free concerts available for download.
> >
> > Anyone thought of broadcasting some of this great stuff on
>
> > terror-give-it-a-restrial radio? Instead of MikeFM, what
> > about an Ipod of mainstream yet underground stuff -
> material
> > off the "rare" Stones CD available at Starbucks
> > (not worth buying but might be worth listening to for
> free).
> >
> No because those formats would draw an audience of one, you.
>
It's not often I read a post that makes me chuckle out loud. Nik, that one did. You're dead-on accurate.
 
If Nik is so accurate why did he get booted the minute the individual who
made the questionable hire was himself shown the door?

Fact is, WBCN would get much better numbers if it attempted to reach out to
the real audience that wants good radio. Infinity's new experiments are just that - experiments - now that Howard Stern has left for more $$$.

Stern is a jock distinctly different from Nik Carter - Stern broke down
the doors in defiance of "the man", Nik just copied what Stern did - only
Nik Carter did it with precision outlined by his Program Director - and clearly, not as well. Opie & Anthony, Howard Stern, gee, they've got gigs.
Can Nik get a real gig - and keep it - without Oedipus opening the door for
him?

It is kind of sad that the self-proclaimed King of the Boston afternoon
airwaves is reduced to composing innuendo, snippy comments, and outright
lies about people on radio-info. Every post Nik Carter makes proves what
is written in this post.

Hey, we're the crazed lunatic fringe fans. It's our job to scribble on
the internet. Nik Carter's job is supposed to be as a radio host.
Perhaps if he invested his energies towards getting a real radio gig
instead of being a part-timer we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Howard Stern just got a half a billion dollars. Nik Carter is now doing
weekends in New York. You do the math.

P.S.

If Nik Carter would create a great radio show and deliver what the people
want he would get my congratulations and would have a loyal listener.
He attacks various people - FCC Fight wishes Nik well - and wishes
Nik would come up with that formula to rake in 1 or 2 mill and have his
own show. It just seems that if he wastes his time on these boards with us "crazies", he will never achieve his dream. Nice that he is hanging out with "the little people", but isn't it time to grow up and do some real work?






Ipod of mainstream yet underground stuff -
> > material
> > > off the "rare" Stones CD available at Starbucks
> > > (not worth buying but might be worth listening to for
> > free).
> > >
> > No because those formats would draw an audience of one,
> you.
> >
> It's not often I read a post that makes me chuckle out loud.

"Mickey" writes:
> Nik, that one did. You're dead-on accurate.
>
 
> Don't give credit to someone who rode the coat-tails of
> those who did the
> great programming - men like Charlie Kendall.
>
> Oedipus can't take credit for the T Rex broadcast - first
> concert by
> Bolan on the American shores. In fact, the quality of the
> live broadcasts
> dropped dramatically after Oedipus took over. Charlie
> Kendall, Mad Max The First, Charles, those individuals did
> the hard work.
>
> But this comment presumes that you know what you are talking
> about, and that's presuming too much. FCC Fight doesn't
> "hate" anyone, nor do you have the name
> correct. Keep guessing.
>
> > > It would be nice if BCN took a "Satellite" kind of
> > approach
> > > - read - go back to what once made them great. More
> live
> > > broadcasts of cool groups
> >
> > There will never be another local live broadcast of a band
>
> > on BCN. Because that very guy you hate Oedipus was the
> > driving force behind local live broadcasts. With him gone
> > you will never hear them again. It's very sad but that's
> the
> > fact Jack! I mean Joe.
> >
>

Oedipus didnt take credit, the poster gave him credit. Learn to read.
 
It just seems that if he wastes his time on these
> boards with us "crazies", he will never achieve his dream.
> Nice that he is hanging out with "the little people", but
> isn't it time to grow up and do some real work?

Are you friggin' serious? You acknowledge that Nik Carter is a radio pro unlike yourself, then you try to bring him down? Is this a joke? Either you're just a message board outsider, or you actually are better than him. Until you speak of your own career, Nik has you easily trumped in terms of credibility.
 
This is not about me so let's not make it so FCC.

> If Nik is so accurate why did he get booted the minute the
> individual who
> made the questionable hire was himself shown the door?

Oh I really hate to ruin your theory based on nothing but your own opinion but it just did not happen that way. If it had I would be the first to tell you "yeah they screwed me", but you know what? they did not, they made a decision based on $$$$$$ mostly, and a new PD's desire to make his mark on his station and surround himself with his guy when my contract was up. Which is his right but clearly since Ive been out of the picture at that radio station for a year and my name still comes up fairly frequently when discussing WBCN, I guess it is impossible to say that i did not make an impact on the station. Without insult meant to the man who took my place at wbcn who I have had email correspondence with and I can say truly is a gentleman: Numberrs do not lie and the ratings have not been what they were when I was there, and they have yet to achieve the numbers that I Left with, that is not opinion, or ego, it is fact.

>
> Fact is, WBCN would get much better numbers if it attempted
> to reach out to
> the real audience that wants good radio. Infinity's new
> experiments are just that - experiments - now that Howard
> Stern has left for more $$$.

WEll let me start by saying that whether you like what I do on air or not is fine with me as it is your right. However you always miss the point that no matter what we did at WBCn when I was there you would not have enjoyed it or have been satisfied with my program because for starters YOU ARE NOT THE AUDIENCE, we targeted men between the ages 18-34, mostly straight men who were aware of current pop culture, not men in their mid 50's who live alternative lifestyles and identify themselves as ultra liberals, whose only musical frame of reference appears to be bands of 30 plus years ago, it is just that simple. in short you're too old and too out of the mainstream of rock/pop culture to appreciate anything being done on a station that targets young men. In addition you have your own well documented vendetta against certain persons in the local radio community I (for whatever reason) being one of them, you're so blinded by your misguided hatred for anyone even remotely related to the Oedipus era of WBCN that your posts have no credibility to them, and anyone who even takes a cursory glance at this board is aware of this.
>
> Stern is a jock distinctly different from Nik Carter - Stern
> broke down
> the doors in defiance of "the man", Nik just copied what
> Stern did - only
> Nik Carter did it with precision outlined by his Program
> Director - and clearly, not as well. Opie & Anthony, Howard
> Stern, gee, they've got gigs.
> Can Nik get a real gig - and keep it - without Oedipus
> opening the door for
> him?

I agree Stern is a dictinctly different jock than I am, I would never even count myself in the same arena as Howard Stern, nor would I ever compare what I do to what he does, they are very different appraoches, of course he kicked in the door and made it possible for virtually EVERYONE on Fm radio today to express themselves in an honest manner, not talking shock just talking honestly. I believe that with all my heart and have TOLD howard that on air myself. Actually I have been far greater infulenced by Laquadara, and parenteau who I grew up listening to, they formed my idea of what a radio personality could be...i didnt even hear Howard Stern unitl I was almost in my 20's and had already decided who I wanted to be on air, so please dont try throw that howard Stern wannabe nonsense around, that just proves you've never really listened to me, but Im not going to say that Howard has not also been an influence on me, of course he has, at least Im honest enough to admit it!.
>
> It is kind of sad that the self-proclaimed King of the
> Boston afternoon
> airwaves is reduced to composing innuendo, snippy comments,
> and outright
> lies about people on radio-info. Every post Nik Carter
> makes proves what
> is written in this post.

Well that is a lie, I never proclaimed myself king of ANYTHING, never, ever, ever!.... you're a liar plain and simple and everyone knows it. Composing snippy comments and innuendo?.........Joe you're on these boards more than I am, Joeseph Gallant is up to what? 60000 plus posts at this point? and the saddest thing about you in all of your guises, FCC FIGHT, Joeseph Gallant, Jay X etc is that you feel you can insult anyone that you want but the moment that someone defends themselves or responds to your inslts you cry and whine that they are "attacking" you. You're a spineless man, spineless yyet you try to bully anyone who disagrees with you, "they're attacking me, they're bashing me for my lifestyle".........You cant dish it out convicingly and you most definately cannot TAKE it when it comes back to you.
>
> Hey, we're the crazed lunatic fringe fans. It's our job to
> scribble on
> the internet. Nik Carter's job is supposed to be as a radio
> host.
> Perhaps if he invested his energies towards getting a real
> radio gig
> instead of being a part-timer we wouldn't be having this
> discussion.
>
> Howard Stern just got a half a billion dollars. Nik Carter
> is now doing
> weekends in New York. You do the math.
>
> P.S.
>
> If Nik Carter would create a great radio show and deliver
> what the people
> want he would get my congratulations and would have a loyal
> listener.
> He attacks various people - FCC Fight wishes Nik well - and
> wishes
> Nik would come up with that formula to rake in 1 or 2 mill
> and have his
> own show. It just seems that if he wastes his time on these
> boards with us "crazies", he will never achieve his dream.
> Nice that he is hanging out with "the little people", but
> isn't it time to grow up and do some real work?

I dont know where you're getting any of this, but do not attribute your own insecurities and fears as comments that i have made, I have never referred to anyone as "the little people" or anything of the sort. I do believe that you're in no position to comment from any place of autority on what makes good radio having never done it yourself, having never done anything besides college radio which you were removed from seemingly because of your obvious problems and inability to interact harmoniously with many, or your blogging which I admittedly regard as a joke, anyone can do it. Wait until you do something that is not available to anyone who just decides to go to a community center and sign up to do it, then and only then will you have any credibility to critique myself or anyone else who has ever cracked a mic on a commercial frequency with any sort of authority. I guess I should be flattered that you would mention my name and Howard Stern's in the same sentence but to say thatt becuase Howard inked a half a billion dollar deal and I have not that somehow makes me a failure, well thats ort of thinking could only come from a disturbed mind. No one will ever get a deal like Howard has otten again, it will never happen and good for him for ggetting it!.

You talk out of your ass, you talk about my ratings when you've never seen them because all you have access to are the 12+ ratings that they print online or in the Herald, you want to know the real difference between you adn the professionals out here?.......The professionals never have to tell anyone who they are or whhat theyve done, the pros dont brag about their accomplishments for the most part. TThey allow their work to speak for itself, whereas YOu are constantly defending your "career" or lackl thereof while bragging about it, "respected rock journalist", "ve been taped by vh 1" it is a half step above a bragadocious man in a bar extoplling the virtues of his gential size, something that shouold have been settled in a lockerroom years agoi. Ive neverr referred to myself as the King of Boston afternoons, it has never happened, but I dare you, I DEFY YOU to NOT blow your own horn, by using any of your concoted screen names, I defy you not to brag about what you think you have done in your storied career writing album reviews or whatever else you've done online or wherever,.....I dare you not to write about yourself extolling your own virtues for one week..........and see if ANYONE ELSE DOES. You cannot, because you know that no one else will.


Happy New Year to all, and to all a prosperous and productive 2006!.

PS Pardon the typos, Im rushing to get out into the NYE air with all of the other half wits!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ipod of mainstream yet underground stuff -
> > > material
> > > > off the "rare" Stones CD available at Starbucks
> > > > (not worth buying but might be worth listening to for
> > > free).
> > > >
> > > No because those formats would draw an audience of one,
> > you.
> > >
> > It's not often I read a post that makes me chuckle out
> loud.
>
> "Mickey" writes:
> > Nik, that one did. You're dead-on accurate.
> >
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by NotoriousN-I-K on 01/01/06 12:25 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> > > I just can see paying for XM or Sirius when there are so
>
> > > many other things to listen to - like the 1200 free
> > Grateful
> > > Dead concerts on http://www.archive.org or .com - and
> tons
> >
> > > of other free concerts available for download.
> > >
> > > Anyone thought of broadcasting some of this great stuff
> on
> >
> > > terror-give-it-a-restrial radio? Instead of MikeFM,
> what
> > > about an Ipod of mainstream yet underground stuff -
> > material
> > > off the "rare" Stones CD available at Starbucks
> > > (not worth buying but might be worth listening to for
> > free).
> > >
> > No because those formats would draw an audience of one,
> you.
> >
> It's not often I read a post that makes me chuckle out loud.
> Nik, that one did. You're dead-on accurate.
>
LOL Thanx Mickey, but note FCC's response: I just told the truth that the formats that he suggests wouldnt attract anybody but him, I didnt say anything about him personally.... and his response is a long drawn out personal attack on me. I wasnt dumping on him but the truth is nobody but him would be listening to 1200 Dead bootlegs, plus you dont hear live concerts very much on air anyway.... because if you're not a fan of the particular band then you're not into ninety minutes of a live band you dont care about. EVen a fan of many bands wont necessarily stick around because listeners dont have the highest attention span, who doesnt know that? they get bored or restless pretty quickly.

Anyway I find fault with his idea, he takes it personally, and he goes off attacking my career,.........THAT made me chuckle I have to say.
 
I wasn't going to address that, Nik, because neither your comment nor my response to it were meant as attacks. By the way, I saw you featured in the latest AFTRA update, it was nice to see.

> > > > I just can see paying for XM or Sirius when there are
> so
> >
> > > > many other things to listen to - like the 1200 free
> > > Grateful
> > > > Dead concerts on http://www.archive.org or .com - and
> > tons
> > >
> > > > of other free concerts available for download.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone thought of broadcasting some of this great
> stuff
> > on
> > >
> > > > terror-give-it-a-restrial radio? Instead of MikeFM,
> > what
> > > > about an Ipod of mainstream yet underground stuff -
> > > material
> > > > off the "rare" Stones CD available at Starbucks
> > > > (not worth buying but might be worth listening to for
> > > free).
> > > >
> > > No because those formats would draw an audience of one,
> > you.
> > >
> > It's not often I read a post that makes me chuckle out
> loud.
> > Nik, that one did. You're dead-on accurate.
> >
> LOL Thanx Mickey, but note FCC's response: I just told the
> truth that the formats that he suggests wouldnt attract
> anybody but him, I didnt say anything about him
> personally.... and his response is a long drawn out personal
> attack on me. I wasnt dumping on him but the truth is
> nobody but him would be listening to 1200 Dead bootlegs,
> plus you dont hear live concerts very much on air anyway....
> because if you're not a fan of the particular band then
> you're not into ninety minutes of a live band you dont care
> about. EVen a fan of many bands wont necessarily stick
> around because listeners dont have the highest attention
> span, who doesnt know that? they get bored or restless
> pretty quickly.
>
> Anyway I find fault with his idea, he takes it
> personally, and he goes off attacking my
> career,.........THAT made me chuckle I have to say.
>
 
> Don't give credit to someone who rode the coat-tails of
> those who did the
> great programming - men like Charlie Kendall.
>
> Oedipus can't take credit for the T Rex broadcast - first
> concert by
> Bolan on the American shores.

I never credited Oedipus with starting live local concert broadcasts of bands on WBCN. What I said was... you will never hear one again since he left. He was the driving force behind them during his tenure. During the time period that you speak of WBCN was a free form (or close to free form station) that could do anything they wanted. They had no ratings to speak of and had to answer to very few. You could block an hour or two off on one band playing parts of their catalog that no one but their biggest fans cared about without causing that much damage to the size of your audience. And even if you did who was going to fire you. This was not true through the 80's and 90's during Oedipus tenure when the station had very significant ratings and large corporate ownership that required ratings results. Yet BCN continued to air thousands of local live broadcasts of up and coming artists as well as major bands. The costs of doing these these broadcast also significantly climbed over the years as well as reluctance's of larger acts wanting to give away their live material on the air. Oedipus still always cleared the airtime and had the clout in the industry to be able to convince record companies or many times bands to do them even on just one local station. You can look far and wide through the 80's and 90's or just ask some of these bands this was pretty much unheard for a successful major market station.

In fact, the quality of the
> live broadcasts
> dropped dramatically after Oedipus took over.

I disagree again. WBCN used major national recording trucks for their live broadcasts through his tenure another expense that could not be pulled off by the folks to follow him.

> It would be nice if BCN took a "Satellite" kind of
> > approach
> > > - read - go back to what once made them great. More
> live
> > > broadcasts of cool groups

Joe.. I never claimed that the man you love to hate started the early history of great local concert broadcasts on WBCN. I just thought it was pretty ironic that when you somtimes go on and on about how he ruined WBCN that this was one area that he felt as much passion about keeping going as I guess you do. I too love my wall of great concerts recordings I taped off WBCN over the years. But the sad fact is they are gone from the landscape of local rock radio and probably would have been here 15-20 years earlier without him at the helm.
 
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