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Oh., sorry fell asleep listening to BDH demo.... Got the info from BDH minion. So feel pretty good about its truth. Thanks for asking. ;D
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I am calling "BS". "Minion"?, like I said before, spill it or STFU, little man. You are entitled to your opinion. You can even speculate if you want. But go back and read, YOU wanted to air facts and have done nothing of the sort. "facts" are items that are true. For instance, this is a "fact"... BDH will be on April 1st, here is another, I don't care if he IS buying the time, irrelevant. How about a 3rd, I love that it bothers you.
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The Truth make Bongo angry... ;D
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ISaidSo
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Must be tied up with a back-up on 635 
Little, I am a little surprised at you. I was under the impression all this time that you were in sales. If you are, then you know, ratings for a Talk station don't really matter. It is about the results. From what I understand, BDH did big revenue at LIVE. Even in his non-prime daypart. Because he worked for sponsors. idiots like saidso and bored don't get it, but you should. Besides, a friend of mine has contacts at 1360 and I was told that this is NOT paid programming. Ratings aside, I am pulling for BDH.
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OH yeah, he was killing it, that's why they let him go. Nobody in radio is making money but Live said who cares and cut the BDH cash cow, that makes a ton of sense. Man if I was an advertiser I couldn't wait to spend money on a station with no ratings and on show that has been fired twice... I bet in this tight market they are lining up to hand over the cash to the RHS. Advertisers don't care about ratings? This is headline news. All they care about is if the host talks to them? or brings his buddies to the remote??!! Big news people! Big News!
After attacking my contacts, you throw out a friend of a friend!?! Who is his contact? There is only one guy there and he is also a show host.... Come on dude admit this is a desperate act by a desperate show, and won't last more than a few months if that..... ;D
After attacking my contacts, you throw out a friend of a friend!?! Who is his contact? There is only one guy there and he is also a show host.... Come on dude admit this is a desperate act by a desperate show, and won't last more than a few months if that..... ;D
I've never worked in sales a day in my life, I just understand what drives every commercial station, REVENUE. So I try to keep up on who's making what, what stations are under (or over) performing expectations, etc. Because admit it, there's plenty of decent rated stations (cough-Oasis-cough) that were flipped because they weren't meeting revenue expectations. You rarely hear about low rated stations that are exceeding revenue expectations being flipped.returnofbongo said:
And my contacts told me back in the RMS blow-up that revenue at KLLI was down markedly. BEFORE Russ allegedly hit his GF, etc. So I just have a hard time buying that BDH's show was doing 'big' revenue. Doing okay, sure, but like Isaidso just said, if he was doing THAT well, they never would have let them go.
Wow, I'm surprised this is coming from my fingers, but I have to admit little1 has got a point ;D, not like he never does though.
It's simply complicated to find out which stations are doing what. If a format flip is coming obviously there was some issue with the old format or the person running the station.
And if there was a problem with the host, or show it won't last to long and then it is gone i.e P&K
As far as the BDH subject that was actually started. I'm pulling for BDH whether anyone else is or not. So I guess the number of listeners went from 6 to 7
It's simply complicated to find out which stations are doing what. If a format flip is coming obviously there was some issue with the old format or the person running the station.
And if there was a problem with the host, or show it won't last to long and then it is gone i.e P&K
As far as the BDH subject that was actually started. I'm pulling for BDH whether anyone else is or not. So I guess the number of listeners went from 6 to 7
And we have come full circle. Outlaw, well said. I am pulling for BDH as well. Which is why I am listening on April 1. I am encouraging everyone to do the same. We all bitch about the state of radio here. Let's do something about it and support a total underdog. Go on BDH.
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little1 said:
Good point, moreover on KLLI days, heard revenue being down was due to negligent and lazy sales staff, who wouldn't follow up on promises, causing revenues to fall. Not totally the talents fault there. Although I'm sure that had part. Coincidence KRLD-FM seems to have low revenues having inherited the old sales staff? Again, I'm no sales guy, but this is what I hear around the horn. I dunno first hand. Just a rumor. Thoughts?
Anyway good luck to anyone trying to stay afloat in any market. Including BDH. He has a fanbase which I'm sure is anxious to hear him back on the air.
Rumsfeld said you go to war with the army you have. In this case, you go to war with the sales staff you have. If the sales staff was underperforming with Jagger, Russ, et al, why did they think they'd overperform with Jagger, B&S, et al.analog78 said:
But I think that the real problem for KRLD-FM's sales staff is that they're the 3rd sports station. If you're an advertiser and trying to reach a big male audience, do you go with the station that's around #1 Men 25-54 (KTCK), go with the station that's 8th M25-54 (ESPN) or go with the station that's 20th (The Fan).
Unless you're bargain hunting for low rates, the Fan doesn't have many people listening to them, and those that listen don't appear to stick around for very long...
BDH or RHS is LAME. Its absurd that thread has gone 4 pages.
Albert, my man...YES! You get it. Right on.
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Um. Bongo....Think you missed Albert's point. Just because radio sucks, that doesn't mean support a crap show to save it... I thought you LOVED BDH????? ???
No, I didn't miss the point. Tongue was planted firmly in cheek. Don't take everything so seriously. But, if Rock Of Love was so bad, so many people wouldn't be watching. It has merit. My issue is a station like LIVE/FAN that has terrible programming, that no one is listening to. I have listened to BDH for years, and based on his show, I am pretty confident that he has listeners. His is a show that I enjoy, THAT is why I am pulling for him.
returnofbongo said:
That is the type of anecdotal testimonial that you mock as ignorance of what makes good radio. I made the same claims about P&K. I enjoyed their show, for the most part, listened for years and can point to evidence that many others tuned in as well. Yet, somehow, P&K had no merit.
Not to turn this thread into yet another show host flame war, but it does illustrate what I've been saying all along. The definition of "good radio" is in the ear of the individual listener.
And, yes, Rock of Love is absolute crap, IMO.
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