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Beck gone from WOR

@newhampshiredude

You're not being fair at all, to compare Beck not burning up the ratings on KRLA to Hannity getting good ratings on 50k blowtorch WSB is ridiculous, not only is KRLA not the dominant radio station in LA (KFI) its not even the second tier station in LA (KABC, and btw how is Sean doing on KABC...) Rush couldn't do better on KRLA (how's Rush doing on Bostons WXKS ?)

Hannity is NOT doing well alone on Portland's 4th rated KXFD 5k watts. Portland's KPAM where Savage is alone is doing much better. I couldn't find any other top 50 market where Hannity is alone.

So the station you're on 'does' matter a lot, WSB signal can be heard all over the east coast at night.

WSB is way ahead of WGST (Rush's Atlanta affiliate) even when Rush is on!!! That tells you everything you need to know the power of WSB.

WSB is the only radio station in Atlanta for news/talk and traffic & weather, ANY host would do great on WSB !

Beck is doing great on every major station he is on, WOR does not fit in the category of a "great station". WOR stands for WORst radio.
 
scott5 said:
@newhampshiredude

You're not being fair at all, to compare Beck not burning up the ratings on KRLA to Hannity getting good ratings on 50k blowtorch WSB is ridiculous, not only is KRLA not the dominant radio station in LA (KFI) its not even the second tier station in LA (KABC, and btw how is Sean doing on KABC...) Rush couldn't do better on KRLA (how's Rush doing on Bostons WXKS ?)
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Not good. And that's probably an understatement.

Establishing an AM station is tough. Doing so on a signal that cannot compare to the other major AM signals in the market is tougher. Doing so with a penny-pinching owner like CC is even tougher.

If Boston's Rush Radio was on FM, maybe they might have a shot at denting the other three top talk stations (WBZ after dark, WRKO-AM and WTKK-FM) but that won't be able to happen.

And don't forget that none of Salem's conservatalkers have any good ratings at all, period. WIND, WWRC, WHK, KSKY, KRLA, etc. all are bottom-of-the-ratings-barrel stations who only exist to clear the Salem Radio Network lineup. No other logical explanation needed. Beck easily can land on WNYM, and it won't go anywhere in the ratings... but at least he'll have a clearance.

Oh, and is KABC still broadcasting? Could have fooled me... ;)

scott5 said:
Hannity is NOT doing well alone on Portland's 4th rated KXFD 5k watts. Portland's KPAM where Savage is alone is doing much better. I couldn't find any other top 50 market where Hannity is alone.

So the station you're on 'does' matter a lot, WSB signal can be heard all over the east coast at night.

WSB is way ahead of WGST (Rush's Atlanta affiliate) even when Rush is on!!! That tells you everything you need to know the power of WSB.

WSB is the only radio station in Atlanta for news/talk and traffic & weather, ANY host would do great on WSB !
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That's also due to 1) a terrible night pattern for WGST that's barely audible in a fraction of the Atlanta metro, 2) an FM simulcast which was foolishly aborted 10 years ago, and 3) an awful CC demolition crew (err... former alleged "PD" Randall Bloomquist) who fired all of the local hosts and mailed it in back in 2006.

WGST is too tainted and failed to be considered a reasonable competitor to WGKA (the Salem N/T station), let alone WSB.

scott5 said:
Beck is doing great on every major station he is on, WOR does not fit in the category of a "great station". WOR stands for WORst radio.
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WOR = W Old Radio.
 
Where's "chuckydoll" to post that he was right about Beck and WOR not being a good pair?
 
scott5 said:
I couldn't find any other top 50 market where Hannity is alone.
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How about Austin, Texas? Rush, Hannity and Beck are all on separate talkers.
 
scott5 said:
And Rush's station is on top, Hannity's station is # 22 in the ratings.
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That's true, but Rush's station, KLBJ, has a lot of history behind it. And at times has been the only talk game in town. It's also the only station that puts any resources in their news department.

Hannity is on the second tier 1370 which, before going talk was playing urban hits and Beck is on a newish fm talker.
 
amisdead said:
scott5 said:
And Rush's station is on top, Hannity's station is # 22 in the ratings.
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That's true, but Rush's station, KLBJ, has a lot of history behind it. And at times has been the only talk game in town. It's also the only station that puts any resources in their news department.

Hannity is on the second tier 1370 which, before going talk was playing urban hits and Beck is on a newish fm talker.
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All of what you say in regards to KLBJ you can apply to Atlanta's WSB as well, and the takeaway is that Hannity 'can not' stand alone on a second tier station.
 
scott5 said:
All of what you say in regards to KLBJ you can apply to Atlanta's WSB as well, and the takeaway is that Hannity 'can not' stand alone on a second tier station.
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Actually, I agree with you. I only jumped in to provide another market example.
 
scott5 said:
WOR wants to be more local as well so they are extending John Gambling's show till 10.
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Beck did his show in New York (from Clear Channel, not WOR) and currently lives in the area.
Gallagher once lived and worked in New York but now lives and does his show from Dallas.
 
@MattParker

You're wrong.

"Jerry Crowley, Vice President & General Manager of WOR-AM, added, "Mike is a superb broadcaster with a real sensitivity for the issues surrounding New York. Since he will be broadcasting from our studios at 'ground zero' much of the time, Mike will have the unique advantage of commenting on our local issues that have National implications. The Gallagher show will air between the newly extended time frame of The John Gambling show 6-10a and the Joan Hamburg show 12n-2p."

Gallagher, who splits his residence between New York and Dallas, added, "To join the WOR team is a real privilege. I'm excited to begin working towards the kind of ratings and revenue growth worthy of a legendary station like WOR."
 
How am I wrong. He has been doing his Salem show from Dallas. For a time he did an additional local hour for the Dallas station. He's gotten cleared in the Big Apple. We all know how New York-centric New Yorkers are. So he's going to do some shows from New York. "Much of the time" is open to wide interpretation. And we'll see how long it lasts. Typical radio promotion move. Never take radio station press releases at face value.

Maybe Gallagher will decide at some point he'd rather live in New York than Dallas (I know I would). But given the uncertainties of talk radio clearances, he'd be dumb (and I don't think he is) to sell his home in Dallas and move to New York. If his show catches on in New York, then maybe. But he didn't exactly set the town on fire when Salem had him on 970AM. Nor when he was on WABC.
 
You say: "and currently lives in the area"

They say: "Gallagher, who splits his residence between New York and Dallas"

Looks like he has a home in NYC.
 
scott5 said:
You say: "and currently lives in the area"

They say: "Gallagher, who splits his residence between New York and Dallas"

Looks like he has a home in NYC.
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Looks to me like he's staying in a hotel.
 
scott5 said:
WOR is not the best station to be on for a host to have good ratings.
Beck would have done much better on WABC, they know how to sell their personalities with exciting jingles etc.
WOR "sounds" like 1960's radio .
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So what you're saying is.....If RUSH went to WOR he would have bad ratings for they have no jingles?
WOR may sound like the 60's.....WABC plays jingles like thay did in the 60's to reminde baby boomers of the 60's when they played music...so they feel at home when they tune in..
 
butchfm said:
scott5 said:
WOR is not the best station to be on for a host to have good ratings.
Beck would have done much better on WABC, they know how to sell their personalities with exciting jingles etc.
WOR "sounds" like 1960's radio .
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So what you're saying is.....If RUSH went to WOR he would have bad ratings for they have no jingles?
WOR may sound like the 60's.....WABC plays jingles like thay did in the 60's to reminde baby boomers of the 60's when they played music...so they feel at home when they tune in..
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Has WABC even used a jingle package since Phil Boyce left? (Aside from Mark Simone's Saturday night oldies show, of course...)
 
amisdead said:
scott5 said:
And Rush's station is on top, Hannity's station is # 22 in the ratings.
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That's true, but Rush's station, KLBJ, has a lot of history behind it. And at times has been the only talk game in town. It's also the only station that puts any resources in their news department.
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Ironically, you can thank the family of former President Lyndon Johnson for the solid investment behind KLBJ (they owned the station until a few years back).
 
butchfm said:
scott5 said:
WOR is not the best station to be on for a host to have good ratings.
Beck would have done much better on WABC, they know how to sell their personalities with exciting jingles etc.
WOR "sounds" like 1960's radio .
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So what you're saying is.....If RUSH went to WOR he would have bad ratings for they have no jingles?
WOR may sound like the 60's.....WABC plays jingles like thay did in the 60's to reminde baby boomers of the 60's when they played music...so they feel at home when they tune in..
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Right , that's what i'm saying, Rush would not do as good on WOR. How is Rush doing on Bostons WXKS ? He was doing much better on WRKO. The station the host is on matters most.
 
...and Mike Gallagher has the uncanny ability to make the art of smashing watermelons actually work for radio. :D

Seriously, though, hw runs and excellent program and I am glad he has WOR o nhis affiliates list..
 
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