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Ben and Skin get new producer

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cowboyup

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Troy Hughes from Movin/Mega is going to be the new producer for the Ben and Skin show...No other show gets a producer?

By the way I think Pete and Mrod should be moved to 9am to 12 when Ranger season starts.
 
The thing to remember is that 6 months ago neither Ben nor Skin were employed full time in the radio industry. They probably more than any other show on the Fan NEED some direction and guidance.

Not sure that some guy from a music station is going to be the one to give that to them (me, I would have hired an experienced local producer (a Mark Friedman, Frazier Maxwell, Tom Gribel type. Someone who's produced sportstalk shows in this market for a few years, and knows something about pacing and planning a show. )
 
little1 said:
The thing to remember is that 6 months ago neither Ben nor Skin were employed full time in the radio industry. They probably more than any other show on the Fan NEED some direction and guidance.

Not sure that some guy from a music station is going to be the one to give that to them (me, I would have hired an experienced local producer (a Mark Friedman, Frazier Maxwell, Tom Gribel type. Someone who's produced sportstalk shows in this market for a few years, and knows something about pacing and planning a show. )
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The whole station needs that! Shows with little clue, and no direction....
 
Troy Hughes from Movin/Mega is going to be the new producer for the Ben and Skin show...No other show gets a producer?

By the way I think Pete and Mrod should be moved to 9am to 12 when Ranger season starts.
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Nice... I'm sure there was absolutely no one in the building they could have used! Wonder if they even asked if anyone was interested. I guess this guys at least saves his job, because he probably doesn't speak spanish.

Pete and Mike are much better than a has been RB who hardly if ever started in the NFL, yet only talks about himself and tries to segway every segment into a life lesson that can be reflected in his career. WHO CARES YOU ARROGANT BASTARD! AND LEARN TO SPEAK BETTER!

Oh, and to those who may know, Is it true he actually does push-ups in the studio during breaks? Other hosts have mentioned this, and it just further concretes the vanity and self love argument. Get over yourself Gregg! Nobody else cares! Learn more about other sports, Yes we can tell when you are reading, because it sounds like you have a reading deficiency when you do! Take a speech class, immediately followed by a public speaking class, get a speech coach! I don't care if you get paid to talk to elementary school kids and print your own sports cards! YOU sound ignorant when your mouth opens!

Ya no wut i's sayin dawg!

At least Pete and "M-Rod" usually have opposing view points and seem to draw some intelligent callers. I think Gregg And Kevin get their friends to call....
 
ISaidSo said:
little1 said:
The thing to remember is that 6 months ago neither Ben nor Skin were employed full time in the radio industry. They probably more than any other show on the Fan NEED some direction and guidance.

Not sure that some guy from a music station is going to be the one to give that to them (me, I would have hired an experienced local producer (a Mark Friedman, Frazier Maxwell, Tom Gribel type. Someone who's produced sportstalk shows in this market for a few years, and knows something about pacing and planning a show. )
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The whole station needs that! Shows with little clue, and no direction....
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That is so true. Doesn't Gavin Spittle actually have a sports background? Was it his decision to hire some of the hack's on that freq? No wonder the ticket and ESPN aren't threatened.

The only real sports names on the station are Scruggs from ch 5 and Salisbury formerly of ESPN. And that show gets off topic consistantly. You can tell no one is driving them.

Kevin and Gregg are unbearable and very unproduced in every way.

The station needs a leader and some good help to stay afloat. And from listening to the breaks, sales is having trouble, or just inefficient and lazy. Either way, not a terrible amount of true local advertising going on, seems to be just the network barter stuff.
 
As i hear it, Troy is just going to run the board, still no real producers at The fan......Seems like Spittle would know better.
 
ISaidSo said:
As i hear it, Troy is just going to run the board, still no real producers at The fan......Seems like Spittle would know better.
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he's already been billed as the new producer, on air and off. this from a reliable source at the station...

Spittle would know better about?
 
There were people in the building willing to step up and do the job and as far as I know where never even approached on the issue. Would they have been the best with a ton of experience probably not, but this station isn't going to get the best. The guys at the ticket when they started were NOT the best. They went through the growing pains and they are the best. The Fan wants to be on top without the growing process. Well it is never going to work with all part time board ops, hosts who are not getting paid what they were promised three months ago and hosts who do not do research. Let's be honest many hosts do not research, that is what a producer is for and without one you get very generic sports talk.

I still think this market can handle 3 sports stations but all this CBS money and CBS support doesn't seem to be working out too well. Maybe Eric wasn't the best but if its true he had to pay the bill himself to ship goods to and from the super bowl...well that is just a joke and CBS should be ashamed. And now they send Ben/Skin/Newy/Sean to Rangers spring training...which by the way I've heard claims that CBS is NOT paying for that either but that the guys were told you will be going.
 
cowboyup said:
The guys at the ticket when they started were NOT the best. They went through the growing pains and they are the best. The Fan wants to be on top without the growing process. Well it is never going to work with all part time board ops, hosts who are not getting paid what they were promised three months ago and hosts who do not do research.
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Which is why I'm not sure that Jerry's going to let the Cowboys go on that station "only".
The real problem that the Fan faces is that they've got 2 well entrenched rivals who own the high ground of ratings and revenue. And they can setthe standard of what is expected AND react to anything the Fan does and constantly marginalize them.

Example 1 Take the Super Bowl. The Fan sent Ben and Skin. The Ticket sent ALL of their weekday hosts. Even if KTCK goes off-track and does guy talk while there, they're still talking about the SB, talking to people in the media center about the SB, etc etc. While Kevin and Greg Hill are stuck trying to come up with subjects to talk about.

Example 2. Ability to get big names guests. Even if Newey and Salisbury dig through their rolodexes and get some big named frineds on, will they ever be able to beat ESPN's roster of guests? They always seem to have whatever big name is in teh news on...I guess it's that 'worldwide leader in sports' thing they've got going for them.

Example 3 The Ticket can does post games shows for EVERY sport in town. If you're a hardcore sports fan and leave the game and want to hear some analysis and calls about it, you know you can get that on 1310AM (well, at least until you get north of 635 and it fades out :D ) Can (or will) the Fan try to match them, or will they just cede that listening to KTCK?

To get to your point, the Ticket succeeded way back when because they didn't have direct competition. They were the only 'all sports' radio station around. The Fan doesn't have that luxury. Every minor pain they have, KTCK and ESPN will be looking to exploit.
 
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