After reading this, you will see a different side of Bernie Ward.....
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0215081ward1.html
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0215081ward1.html
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Bernie Ward's on-line chats
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I doubt seriously that your link comes as a surprise to anyone interested in Bernie's situation...How about if we discover your deepest darkest secret and showcase it for the world..We wouldn't be shocked ..would we??
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This has been available for a long time now. You are just getting around to seeing it?
You Folks Have Way Too Much Time On Your Hands! And We All Know Exactly What Those Hands Are Doing! Don't Lie! We All Know The Truth! Why? Because Male Or Female We Are All Humans! And We All Get Our Kicks One Way Or Another! Don't Lie! This Was Just Bernie's Idea Of More Stimulating Talk Radio! Get Over It! Bernie Is Yesterdays News. Move On! Sorry If The Truth Hurts, But It Is The Truth And You All Know It! Don't Lie!
1069_KIFR said:It wouldn't come close to doing what he says in his on-line chat. NOT EVEN CLOSE!
Oh, come on. You already have fantasies of being a radio DJ, as do so many people here. Since people are usually age 9 when they go through these fantasies, it sounds to me like a lot of people here are into infantilism. And please, let's not go there...
"You already have fantasies of being a radio DJ, as do so many people here. Since people are usually age 9 when they go through these fantasies, it sounds to me like a lot of people here are into infantilism. And please, let's not go there..."
I love it when people bring up something, then say "don't go there." I don't believe I've been a Bernie basher, David, nor have I delved into details of his online chats (too creepy by half). But your analogies are truly facile.
You aren't truly making an association between childhood fantasies of being a DJ with adult fantasies of molesting children, are you?
As for infantalism - a weird fetish perhaps, but relatively harmless, unlike pedophilia.
I love it when people bring up something, then say "don't go there." I don't believe I've been a Bernie basher, David, nor have I delved into details of his online chats (too creepy by half). But your analogies are truly facile.
You aren't truly making an association between childhood fantasies of being a DJ with adult fantasies of molesting children, are you?
As for infantalism - a weird fetish perhaps, but relatively harmless, unlike pedophilia.
Lkeller said:I love it when people bring up something, then say "don't go there."
I'm happy I made you happy. Remember, this is entertainment, not real life.
I don't believe I've been a Bernie basher, David, nor have I delved into details of his online chats (too creepy by half). But your analogies are truly facile.
Did I ever accuse you of being a DJ wannabe? I don't think so. I respect you because you always post thoughtful things, and I especially respect that you use your name rather than "DJ"-something (David Jackson excepted, of course) or some callsigns.
You aren't truly making an association between childhood fantasies of being a DJ with adult fantasies of molesting children, are you?
Only in that many people display signs of arrested development that are icky. Bernie Ward was not accused of molesting children. He was accused of sending some photos. People go on and on about his online chats, but those chats were (and are) not the subject of his arrest or charges. What I'm saying is that there are a lot of people out there with weird, icky fantasies.
Bernie's is not so bad in comparison. Remember, it's just fantasy. People write books all the time about killing people, but that doesn't mean that they intend to go out and kill people. In fact, writers go to great lengths to write about really gruesome ways to do someone in, so much so that I stay away from fiction as a genre. But how many writers can you think of who have committed murders? None that I can think of. This is probably true of people who write about other antisocial acts as well, don't you think?
"Did I ever accuse you of being a DJ wannabe? I don't think so. I respect you because you always post thoughtful things, and I especially respect that you use your name rather than "DJ"-something (David Jackson excepted, of course) or some callsigns."
Thanks, I didn't actually think you accused me of being a DJ wannable, though I'll confess that I was - about age 11 - enthralled by Top 40 radio. As I remember, I wanted to be Bob Eubanks. Uh- the KRLA Eubanks not the later smarmy Newlywed Game guy. I got over it by my 20s, as I watched a few talented friends (much more talented that I probably would have been) get eaten up by the business.
"Bernie's is not so bad in comparison. Remember, it's just fantasy. People write books all the time about killing people, but that doesn't mean that they intend to go out and kill people. In fact, writers go to great lengths to write about really gruesome ways to do someone in, so much so that I stay away from fiction as a genre. But how many writers can you think of who have committed murders? None that I can think of. This is probably true of people who write about other antisocial acts as well, don't you think?
Yes, I do. Fair enough. I do appreciate your perspective. It's a very difficult subject, and people have difficulty getting past their emotions when they discuss it. As I said before though, my problem with the trading of child porn images (photographs or movies) is that they involved the exploitation of actual living children. Written fantasies, whether they're about child porn, murders, or whatever awful thing - do not require exploitation of actual living people.
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Thanks, I didn't actually think you accused me of being a DJ wannable, though I'll confess that I was - about age 11 - enthralled by Top 40 radio. As I remember, I wanted to be Bob Eubanks. Uh- the KRLA Eubanks not the later smarmy Newlywed Game guy. I got over it by my 20s, as I watched a few talented friends (much more talented that I probably would have been) get eaten up by the business.
"Bernie's is not so bad in comparison. Remember, it's just fantasy. People write books all the time about killing people, but that doesn't mean that they intend to go out and kill people. In fact, writers go to great lengths to write about really gruesome ways to do someone in, so much so that I stay away from fiction as a genre. But how many writers can you think of who have committed murders? None that I can think of. This is probably true of people who write about other antisocial acts as well, don't you think?
Yes, I do. Fair enough. I do appreciate your perspective. It's a very difficult subject, and people have difficulty getting past their emotions when they discuss it. As I said before though, my problem with the trading of child porn images (photographs or movies) is that they involved the exploitation of actual living children. Written fantasies, whether they're about child porn, murders, or whatever awful thing - do not require exploitation of actual living people.
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