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Best Buy Expands HD Radio Lineup

PocketRadio said:
Best Buy Expands HD Radio Lineup

“The HD Digital Radio Alliance and iBiquity have created momentum with customers that now make HD Digital Radio one of the hottest electronics choices around,” said Chris Homeister, Best Buy vice president of Merchandising."

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntry.asp?hid=137640&pt=InkHeadlines

Blah, blah, blah - then how come the consumer go-to site for HD Radio is almost dead:

http://www.statsaholic.com/hdradio.com
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Do you really believe in that Graph? wow I'm shocked! :D
 
Actually the graph shows the site relatively flat...not dead. If we can believe the chart. But if the chart is true, it doesn't surprise me. Ibiquity has done a horrid job of updating the site. I used to go often. Even though I'm a big HD fan, I almost never visit the site because I've learned THEY NEVER UPDATE IT! I read elsewhere of new stations, and new products. At HDRadio.com I get NOTHING. ANY website on ANY topic that isn't maintained better than that WILL DIE. Hell, if the website promotes free porn, but there's never any new porn, IT WILL DIE. These guys need to get off their hineys and actually update their site! THAT'S what's going on here!

See for yourself. Go to archive.org and check on their site three months ago. Then six. Then a year ago, etc. Not much changes, huh?
 
pullitin said:
Do you really believe in that Graph? wow I'm shocked! :D
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"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check"

"Finally, note the traffic for HDRadio.com which, although not a destination on the order of Sirius or XM, is the go-to site for further information about HD in many HD radio ads and promotions and is, thus, a good metric to gauge consumer interest. To the degree that these estimates are correct (Alexa isn't perfect) and to the degree that web traffic is a proxy for consumer interest, it looks like a long and slow race to the bottom. While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_xm_and_h.html

Sure do ! :D
 
Mike Walker said:
Actually the graph shows the site relatively flat...not dead. If we can believe the chart. But if the chart is true, it doesn't surprise me. Ibiquity has done a horrid job of updating the site. I used to go often. Even though I'm a big HD fan, I almost never visit the site because I've learned THEY NEVER UPDATE IT! I read elsewhere of new stations, and new products. At HDRadio.com I get NOTHING. ANY website on ANY topic that isn't maintained better than that WILL DIE. Hell, if the website promotes free porn, but there's never any new porn, IT WILL DIE. These guys need to get off their hineys and actually update their site! THAT'S what's going on here!

See for yourself. Go to archive.org and check on their site three months ago. Then six. Then a year ago, etc. Not much changes, huh?
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The graph has been in a decline all year long, hitting bottom a number of times - currently, the graph is near the bottom. The hdradio.com site has been heavily promoted on the radio and is on all consumer HD Radio flyers:

"HD Radio Marketing Tool Kit"

http://www.hdradioalliance.com/marketing_tool_kit.php

The hdradio.com site contains much information and includes a list of those secret stations-between-the-stations. Your argument is irrelevant, since anyone exploring HD Radio, or having just bought an HD radio would be directed to this site for further information. Searching Google for "HD Radio", returns hdradio.com as the first site, but as we can see, few are searching for "HD Radio":

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+"internet+radio",+xm,+sirius,+podcast

And, your claims that hdradio.com is not being maintained, the HD Radio Alliance probably has the standard hit-counter on this site, and with such little traffic, the site is not worth maintaining - seems as if, no one is taking HD Radio seriously.
 
The dmeand and growth of HD Radio is growing, and in time will very common.

A --lot-- of people like radio, and simply are not craving an iPod or an MP3 player.

A lot of those people are baby-boomers, and remember nostaligally when radio music was King, and a good King, it was!! Memories are a powerful thing. And ther are more 'baby-boomer' memories floating around than your 'hot' 20 and 30 something's combined !!!!

So, get a life, and join the HD experience ! !
 
TheRover said:
The dmeand and growth of HD Radio is growing, and in time will very common.

A --lot-- of people like radio, and simply are not craving an iPod or an MP3 player.

A lot of those people are baby-boomers, and remember nostaligally when radio music was King, and a good King, it was!! Memories are a powerful thing. And ther are more 'baby-boomer' memories floating around than your 'hot' 20 and 30 something's combined !!!!

So, get a life, and join the HD experience ! !
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"Terrestrial Radio:The Old Dog is Resilient"

"HD radio is almost still-born and the radio industry continues to invest heavily. Good news this week was that Best Buy would stock HD radios in all of their nationwide stores. That's a positive step. Only one problem: no one cares."

http://navigatethefuture.blogspot.com/2007/04/terrestrial-radiothe-old-dog-is.html

"Apple's Profit Up On Sales Of IPods"

"Apple Computer Inc. reported yesterday that sales of its iPod music player increased six-fold in the second fiscal quarter from the comparable period last year and said the gadget's popularity is helping push computer sales. The phenomenally selling music player was largely responsible for boosting Apple's quarterly profit to $290 million, up from the $46 million profit it reported a year ago. Revenue for the quarter was $3.24 billion, up 70 percent."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51786-2005Apr13.html

Yea, you are right - consumer demand for HD Radio is exploding, while interest in iPods is nonexistent ! :D
 
Reading that Best Buy was supposed to be stocking HD radios, I went into a local Best Buy this week. I only made it as far as a clearance table that had several Tivoli radio display models sitting on it. The price on the Tivoli Model One was marked down to $79.99. SOLD! What a great sounding little table radio, particularly AM stations still broadcasting an analog-only signal!
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again, although the "statsaholic faithful" seem to ignore this fact: statsaholic only logs hits of web sites linking through statsaholic to get to hdradio.com (or any site). There is no invasive browser technology, short of spyware or viruses, that would allow statsaholic to detect hits to hdradio.com any other way.

This means that when you type hdradio.com in a browser, you can spend all day on the site and statsaholic racks up a zero. You can click links to hdradio.com all day long from dozens of web sites, blogs, this board, etc., and unless any of them link through statsaholic to get to hdradio.com, statsaholic racks up a zero.
 
Philip J. Smith said:
I've said this before and I'll say it again, although the "statsaholic faithful" seem to ignore this fact: statsaholic only logs hits of web sites linking through statsaholic to get to hdradio.com (or any site). There is no invasive browser technology, short of spyware or viruses, that would allow statsaholic to detect hits to hdradio.com any other way.

This means that when you type hdradio.com in a browser, you can spend all day on the site and statsaholic racks up a zero. You can click links to hdradio.com all day long from dozens of web sites, blogs, this board, etc., and unless any of them link through statsaholic to get to hdradio.com, statsaholic racks up a zero.
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Statsaholic seems to be broken, so I will have to use Google Trends, as my example:

http://www.statsaholic.com/hdradio.com

When I used to be able to use Statsaholic for apple.com, it was averaging 200 million hits a day, so obvioulsy many Web users are using Alexaholic.

Google is used by 50% of Web users, so we can use Google Trends to accurately evaluate the lack of consumer interest in HD Radio, by the number of searches for "HD Radio", compared to competing technologies:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+"internet+radio",+xm,+sirius,+podcast

"Google Trends Gives P2P Insight"

"Google Trends is a new comparison tool used to compare the search frequency of various topics over a period of time. The feature is currently English only, however the data is a aggregation of searches conducted globally. Google Trends is experimental in nature, although it appears to be accurate enough to demonstrate the popularity of a topic over time. In addition, it uses Google News to mark significant points or popularity spikes."

http://www.slyck.com/story1188.html

Like it, or not, consumers are not searching for "HD Radio", which would direct them to hdradio.com, as the first site hit:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q="hd+radio"
 
TheRover said:
The dmeand and growth of HD Radio is growing, and in time will very common.

A --lot-- of people like radio, and simply are not craving an iPod or an MP3 player.

A lot of those people are baby-boomers, and remember nostaligally when radio music was King, and a good King, it was!! Memories are a powerful thing. And ther are more 'baby-boomer' memories floating around than your 'hot' 20 and 30 something's combined !!!!

So, get a life, and join the HD experience ! !
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I'm still waiting on an HD station to appear in my backwater poorhouse. :'(

So, what happens when all the baby-boomers die off, taking their love of radio with them? They aren't going to keep music radio, or HD alive. The industry has got to find a way to get younger generations (< 30)interested in broadcast radio again. So far, their efforts have petered out.
 
Zach said:
TheRover said:
The dmeand and growth of HD Radio is growing, and in time will very common.

A --lot-- of people like radio, and simply are not craving an iPod or an MP3 player.

A lot of those people are baby-boomers, and remember nostaligally when radio music was King, and a good King, it was!! Memories are a powerful thing. And ther are more 'baby-boomer' memories floating around than your 'hot' 20 and 30 something's combined !!!!

So, get a life, and join the HD experience ! !
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I'm still waiting on an HD station to appear in my backwater poorhouse. :'(

So, what happens when all the baby-boomers die off, taking their love of radio with them? They aren't going to keep music radio, or HD alive. The industry has got to find a way to get younger generations (< 30)interested in broadcast radio again. So far, their efforts have petered out.
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Just a cursory look at how well Radio and HD-radio is doing in some of the major markets... I don't have the time to read all the posts on these boards for the happy or the unhappy radio listeners but I think anyone can guess.


HD-Radio is going great in Miami... Just dandy with the new HD car radios, and I imagine these are the ones that posts here on these boards...

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,70236.0.html


Of course with existing radio going so great, the programming should be spectacular in HD CD quality sound, such that we have very satisfied consumers of this wonderful programming.

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,65805.0.html


And of course in Fort Meyers, listeners are scrambling to hear radio in all it's glory or shall I say demise?

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,26337.0.html


At this rate there will be countless millions of under age 30 listeners migrating to AM, or FM HD radio in the future.

Radiopilot
 
TheRover said:
I stand by what I said.
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"HD Radio Wal-Mart Style"
by Jerry Del Colliano
Professor of Music Industry at USC, Former TV and Radio Broadcaster, and Founder of Inside Radio

"It is mind boggling to think there are people out there who actually believe HD radio is the future. Especially people involved with a lucrative business like Walmart. You really hit the nail on the head with the "Generation Y is Generation 'Why' when it comes to HD Radio". Generation Y sees no purpose in HD radio. Even today when we rarely do turn on our radios, usually in the car for just a moment hoping something decent will surface, we hear radio DJs boasting about how they are now broadcasting in HD and most of just laugh and turn radio off again. Walmart is making a HUGE mistake with this move. Whether affordable or not nobody wants to purchase radios, they only want iPods and any other "cool" MP3 players. Internet radio has the potential to take over the radio industry unless of course, radio dies altogether."

"It seems as though stations are admitting defeat and trying to keep their older audiences tuned in by offering such options as prog rock and disco (you know, to remind them of the good old days!). Have they given up on trying to solve their current listenership problems because they aren't in Professor Del Colliano's class taking notes on what to do?"

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/2007/03/hd-radio-wal-mart-style.html

Jerry is in the unique postion, as a professor at USC, to hear directly from Gen Y - if you have any interest in the future of terrestrial radio, you would be smart to read this article, instead of burying-your-head-in-the-sand. Zach is absolutely correct - terrestrial radio has lost touch with Gen Y, and after the Baby Bommers are gone, there will be no future, unless something radical is done, besides this joke called "HD Radio". WABC 770 AM runs Saturday Night Oldies, which is highly-successful, but the programming only applies to the Baby Boomers - better think of something else quickly !
 
Re: REGURGITATION ALERT!!!

clouseau said:
PocketRadio said:
"HD Radio Wal-Mart Style"
by Jerry Del Colliano

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com/2007/03/hd-radio-wal-mart-style.html
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This two month old, basically off topic "Opinion Piece" was originally posted by Guess Who? Running out of new material are you?

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,65477.0.html

Clouseau
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Since we all know that HD Radio is DOA, I'm just getting lazy - I even set up comprehensive Google Alerts for "HD Radio" and "IBOC", instead of having to do periodic searches ! :D
 
If only PocketRadio were this clever

radiopilot said:
HD-Radio is going great in Miami... Just dandy with the new HD car radios, and I imagine these are the ones that posts here on these boards...

Of course with existing radio going so great, the programming should be spectacular in HD CD quality sound, such that we have very satisfied consumers of this wonderful programming.

And of course in Fort Meyers, listeners are scrambling to hear radio in all it's glory or shall I say demise?

At this rate there will be countless millions of under age 30 listeners migrating to AM, or FM HD radio in the future.

Radiopilot
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I. Am. So. Stupid. ::)

Silly me, I actually clicked on the links thinking you'd found some little HD utopias. How gullible I am. ;D
 
radiopilot said:
Just a cursory look at how well Radio and HD-radio is doing in some of the major markets...
I don't have the time to read all the posts on these boards...
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Then why are you wasting our time posting the links?
I really don't have the time either, but I won't just post links and walk off... Let me summarize.


HD-Radio is going great in Miami
http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,70236.0.html
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This thread is about a guy who asks if WIOD-AM is broadcasting in HD. A second poster refers him to the FM hd feed of the AM signal. Another tells about how he used to listen but the "SOUND QUALITY WAS SO BAD ON AM" he went to satellite. It's a specific Miami Thread anout a specific Miami station. It does have HD overtones, though.

Of course with existing radio going so great, the programming...
http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,65805.0.html
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This is a thread about Automation problems at an AM station in San Diego where commercials are playing over each other. Relevance to HD radio?? NONE.

And of course in Fort Meyers, listeners are scrambling to hear radio in all it's glory...

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,26337.0.html
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This is about Jock quality and radio stations in Ft Myers. No mention of HD. Opinions overall in the thread seem to be mixed. No mention of HD radio - AGAIN.

How about it folks... Could we take the "I hate radio programming in 2007" discussion somewhere else. This is an HD radio board. It's for "HD radio discussion" . Even says so i the description.

The programming stuff might be true and it might not, but it does not belong here. Up at the top of the paget there is a "Radio-Info Boards" link. And dozens of boards that specialize in formatics and quality of programming related to all parts of the world. If you want to gripe about programming - feel free to use it.

<soapbox mode = off>

Clouseau
 
Just ignore them, Clouseau. But it'll only work if WE ALL DO! I haven't responded to their crap in almost a week, and I'll tell you...things are MUCH rosier!
 
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