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Best Christian station

The "best" Christian station is any station that reaches people for Christ. Like any radio station, their goal should be to provide listeners whatever they need whenever they need it. There are plenty of things different Christians (and non-Christian and future Christian listeners) need at different times, if they are growing. To me, a station shouldn't just provide one monolithic orientation or presentation.

"My favorite" Christian stations are AFR and The Truth Network, because I often learn something when I listen to them, and because they are in my area (Truth Network just barely).
WCLN does a good job of doing what they do, too. They mix music and talk, and relate to the community and the listeners well.
 
quadraphonic said:
The "best" Christian station is any station that reaches people for Christ. Like any radio station, their goal should be to provide listeners whatever they need whenever they need it. There are plenty of things different Christians (and non-Christian and future Christian listeners) need at different times, if they are growing. To me, a station shouldn't just provide one monolithic orientation or presentation.

There is a truth in there, but that truth is only valid under the following conditions:

(1) There is no underlying assumption that the more mature a believer is, the more they will desire slower musical styles, more preaching, and certain positions like KJV'ism, anti-CCM, and doctrines associated with Baptism, denominational stances, etc. Mature Christian believers can also be Christian hip-hop and Christian rock fans, go to Lakewood, read a modern translation, and disagree about doctrinal matters with their brothers and sisters in Christ. I am sick and tired of being judged by other "brothers in Christ" who have different musical tastes because I like newer music. That is not their place. This may be prideful, for that I am sorry - but I'll put my walk up against theirs any time: prayer time alone with Christ, time spent studying the Bible, people reached for Christ, witnessing to others, obeying God ordained civil authority, etc. Bring it if you dare. I have seen anti-CCM preachers out there smoking one cigarette after another, violating the speed limit (a LOT), cursing, wearing 2000 dollar suits and Rolexes while turning the head to avoid a homeless man, etc.

(2) There is no underlying assumption that ONLY traditional music, ONLY preaching stations, only conservative doctrines are reaching people for Christ. A wise old missionary on the verge of retirement after 40 years in the mission field gave a statistic that only one person in 750,000 over 60 can change their mind about their faith and come to Christ, only one person in 50,000 over the age of 50 can change their mind and come to Christ. But if he - in his late 70's, encountered a young person in their teens, the chances of bringing them to salvation was one in three. Because their minds had not been loaded down yet with preconceptions about Christianity and faith. If that old missionary is right - it is stations like WAY-FM, NGEN, Air-1, WPOZ, etc. that are doing the lion's share of conversions. Therefore, that is where our efforts and money needs to be spent. If that sainted old missionary is wrong in his stats a little bit - well I'm glad Moody, AFR, BBN, etc are out there for the stragglers. But it still seems that the majority of Christian stations absolutely need to trend younger in their approach. Just my opinion - and the opinion of a Godly old man who spent his life bringing people to Christ. "If you don't show the church of tomorrow that you care today - you won't have a church tomorrow." I think that was his parting quote. And yes he was talking about Christian radio as well as youth groups.

(3) Those who enjoy more conservative formats should be just as overjoyed that the newer formats exist to serve their audience as those who enjoy younger formats should be overjoyed that the older formats exist to serve their audience. Otherwise, we become guilty of trying to put God into the little box of our own personal preferences. God has been known to break out of such little boxes - He is much greater than any one person's preconception of Him. Or one denomination's preconception of Him.

(4) There is no "one size fits all" station. If there was, it would already be on the air with joyful, grateful contributing listeners from all ages and demographic groups. That doesn't exist and never will. So each market needs more than one station to reach the entire body of Christ. I have my opinion of what the most crucial format should be, and what the intended audience should be. Other people will have vastly different ideas and that is OK - we will all reach the same heaven. But when the phones ring off the wall with salvations, prayer requests, re-dedications, salvations, and even prevented suicides during my Christian rock show - and then go completely silent the moment the praise and worship automation goes on - it is pretty clear where my duty as a programmer lies. Maybe other markets are different.

The best Christian station? One that is in the center of where God is moving. That means if you are doing what is comfortable, what you have always done, what pleases a small group of contributers, what is safe - but the donations are just barely enough to get by - God has moved on. So should you - and the blessings will follow without fail! Get with God's program, or risk ending up selling out to NPR.
 
I can't help but wonder how many people are turned off from becoming Christians by the dollar a holler and KJV only stations. Granted, they may reach a few but I agree with Bruce that youth oriented stations are more likely to reach more.
 
Ooh I want to chime in...

Here we go.

Moody Radio---Too much talk on our local outlet.  The few music blocks they carry, has now tilted in a more soulful direction.  This presentation is so out of its time now.  Get with the times Moody and go for a CCM presentation.  Leave the old style of doing things behind. Not likely to happen though but it doesn't hurt to dream.

WLBF Montgomery---They talk too much as well.  The musical blocks are a bit more CCM but they tend to be a bit soulful, when doing the Moody network feed.  This radio station is boring and so bland too.  Time to make a change Faith Radio and go for a CCM presentation too.  I don't see it happening but still it doesn't hurt to dream.

AFR---A big joke now.  They were the cream of the crop, when it came to music.  Loved what they did back during the days of my announcing gig.  Now that they've gone talk, I no longer give them any form of support.  Still have them in my preset, so I can get a few laughs on when I need them

Those are my biggest beefs with the local Christian radio scene here.

With those beefs I listed, I can understand why the younger crowds are not tuned in to our local Christian radio station(s).  These examples are a big turn off to them.  We're not living in the 1970s and 1980s any longer.  Time to get to the present.  If you want to impact this generation of people and see them get saved Moody, AFR, and/or WLBF Montgomery drop the talk and go for all music all the time.  Not likely to happen but I can still dream for it to happen.

R.D.P. <><

P.S. Now many of you will agree with me on this.  If you want an all musical presentation, then you will have to build it out yourself.  Quit wishing for those examples to do it.  They know where their bread and butter is already.  They don't want to offend the donors they already have.  To play hardcore CCM and Hip-Hop music on Moody, AFR and WLBF Montgomery would tick off those who are the most likely to give to them.  It's time for a jolt in our local radio dial.  That's where I will come in.  Ready to get a real CCM radio station going and play songs that no one else will even dare to touch.  Want to be like Mr. Derek Webb and not worry about what some critic will say about me or my presentation.  Want this station to be for the youth crowd mostly and give them a presentation they can relate and enjoy listening to. 

B.T.W. Stay tuned Mr. Bruce.  If my LPFM station works out and I'm able to get things running, plan on dedicating my first night of Album Radio to you.  Will play the entire musical library of Skillet.  Love their music very much.  They know how to perform and do it right.  Yes I'm a big time panhead and see nothing wrong with it. 
 
R.D.P. said:
B.T.W. Stay tuned Mr. Bruce. If my LPFM station works out and I'm able to get things running, plan on dedicating my first night of Album Radio to you. Will play the entire musical library of Skillet. Love their music very much. They know how to perform and do it right. Yes I'm a big time panhead and see nothing wrong with it.

I'm kind of my own boss now - I could consider coming over for your sign-on. I could program a night of it to get you started - establish a big event with a known Christian rock professional. Just a thought. Give you the best possible send off, then let you continue the good work.

I wonder if NGEN or WPOZ would let you syndicate their stuff? It might save you thousands of dollars you would have to spend on your music library. Been there, done it. Every CD I played - I bought. The Christian music store in Orlando got to know me well, even made suggestions of what would fit our format. On a station nobody in Orlando could even hear!

You could even pay tribute to WCIE, by making your first song "Jesus Freak". That was the last song on WCIE before Moody pulled the plug.
 
May take you up on that offer, should things work out. 

Stay tuned and I'll keep you posted.

Will obey all the rules the FCC lays before me though.

Want to have a successful but lawful LPFM station.

R.D.P. <><
 
Thanks for all the offers but from what Mr. Alan McCall told me a LPFM can only do local based programming.

Meaning if his reading of the rules are right, I will do the softer CCM by day and the harder stuff by night.

Want to make sure that I have enough support coming in to help keep the broadcast going.

Besides I know that by going this route, I stand a great chance of making it.

Man just thinking about this radio project is still getting me all excited.

Hope to have something in the works by this time next year.

...And like my good friend Derek Webb I have no use for the cheesy Praise music.

Will avoid much of those songs on purpose, since I'm a hardcore meat and potatoes guy.

R.D.P. <><
 
EJM said:
FWIW, I forgot earlier that CSN's Effect Radio is still around. However, I think that it's only broadcast on CSN-owned outlets.

Likewise, despite the significant number of translators, New Mexico-based Static Radio may also only be broadcast on owned outlets. (If you're not already familiar with it, Static Radio is--by design--not "purely" a CCM outlet.)

I was a member of a Calvary Chapel for a time. actually two in different cities. It is not a denomination, it is more like a franchise system, with California base church exercising very tight control over the local outlets. Very uniform preaching, very uniform doctrine, very uniform music. They are very close to being a sect - most recognize you can be saved if you go somewhere else, but only if your doctrine is really close to theirs. There is definitely the feeling that they have it closer to right than anybody else. This can either be under the surface, benevolent, and not judgemental - or in the case of the second one really quite forceful. Needless to say I left the second one, although I'd go back the first if I lived in that community again.

This close control of things extends to radio, and music played on the radio. Doing CCM at any level on CSN would be tightly controlled for doctrinal content, leaving out much, if not most CCM of any style not done by Calvary Chapel artists, written by Calvary Chapel musicians, etc. They also much prefer to program their preachers than to program music. Not necessarily a bad thing, but - controlled to an extent a lot of people would find suspicious / alarming.

When LPFM became a possibility, I spearheaded an effort at the Dallas CC to put a LPFM on the air. It was a perfect scenario, there are power line towers on the property - get the right permits and we had a free tower! We actually went quite far in the process, I was pushing hard for a WAY-FM outlet on it. Unknown to me, they betrayed me behind my back and were going to put on a CSN station. I pulled out of the effort immediately, and the effort folded.
 
rbrucecarter5 said:
I was a member of a Calvary Chapel for a time. actually two in different cities. It is not a denomination, it is more like a franchise system, with California base church exercising very tight control over the local outlets. Very uniform preaching, very uniform doctrine, very uniform music. They are very close to being a sect - most recognize you can be saved if you go somewhere else, but only if your doctrine is really close to theirs. There is definitely the feeling that they have it closer to right than anybody else. This can either be under the surface, benevolent, and not judgemental - or in the case of the second one really quite forceful.

Thank you for a very interesting observation about this group. Some of the characteristics you describe are present in a number of faith-groups today. Since faith-groups... denominations... churches... are so scattered, fractured and frazzled... it is not at all surprising that we are so very scattered, fractured and frazzled over what we expect from a radio station that has a format tailored to serve "The Faithful".

My question may seem off topic... but the answers people offer may help us understand what makes "Christian radio" so... so... Can I use the term dysfunctional? Here is my observation-and-question: You observe that Calvary Chapel is NOT a denomination. There are a lot of very dynamic congregations of various stripes today who make a similar claim about themselves. But most congregations "fellowship" with similar congregations though mechanisms with titles like association, fellowship, etc.

What is a denomination? What makes one different than any of the other relationships between congregations? Why is the word "denomination" considered so nasty in today's Christian culture?

What I find interesting is that when I come across one of these modern day dynamic faith groups, when you track down the biography and resume of the pastor and other leaders, you often find a strong tie to a denominational upbringing which they can't fully put behind them, but don't want to get caught wrapping their arms around.

A pastor who plays this "shell game" with his/her allegiances develops and encourages followers who then develop their strange relationships and allegiances to hard-to-define Christian radio stations (and TV ministries as well).

I'm not so much putting-down or criticizing such congregations, pastors, members and broadcasters as I am asking: "What gives?"
 
Goat Rodeo Cowboy said:
Thank you for a very interesting observation about this group. Some of the characteristics you describe are present in a number of faith-groups today. Since faith-groups... denominations... churches... are so scattered, fractured and frazzled... it is not at all surprising that we are so very scattered, fractured and frazzled over what we expect from a radio station that has a format tailored to serve "The Faithful".

My question may seem off topic... but the answers people offer may help us understand what makes "Christian radio" so... so... Can I use the term dysfunctional? Here is my observation-and-question: You observe that Calvary Chapel is NOT a denomination. There are a lot of very dynamic congregations of various stripes today who make a similar claim about themselves. But most congregations "fellowship" with similar congregations though mechanisms with titles like association, fellowship, etc.

What is a denomination? What makes one different than any of the other relationships between congregations? Why is the word "denomination" considered so nasty in today's Christian culture?

What I find interesting is that when I come across one of these modern day dynamic faith groups, when you track down the biography and resume of the pastor and other leaders, you often find a strong tie to a denominational upbringing which they can't fully put behind them, but don't want to get caught wrapping their arms around.

A pastor who plays this "shell game" with his/her allegiances develops and encourages followers who then develop their strange relationships and allegiances to hard-to-define Christian radio stations (and TV ministries as well).

I'm not so much putting-down or criticizing such congregations, pastors, members and broadcasters as I am asking: "What gives?"

Dysfunctional is a good description of the Christian "family" in general. We are supposed to know one another by our love. But there are squabbles over Bible translations, baptism, confessions of faith, who is and isn't saved, what is essential for salvation - any number of pet issues. Unfortunately that also includes musical style. You want a scathing condemnation of CCM - just go to Dial the "Truth" av1611.org. The sad thing is, I agree with 90% of what is on that web site. But they would immediately shun and disfellowship me because I happen to like Christian rock, and read a different Bible translation. Normally, if you agree with somebody 90%, you would be BFF's forever, staunchly supportive of each other. But - no - not in the case of Christianity. The AV1611 people would just as soon burn me at the stake as look at me if they found out I was in Christian radio and played the horrible Christian rock. Whatever - my 9th great grandmother Rebecca Addington (Mrs. William Chamberlain) died in a Salem jail awaiting trial, so I guess my family is used to this sort of treatment.

Denominations - well look up a good definition in the dictionary or something. Loosely, it describes various schools of thought that developed after the Reformation. With the exception of Baptists, who never accepted Catholic Baptism in the Roman Empire and existed underground for centuries. A lot of them are geographically linked to early colonies, others trace their roots to England like the Episcopals who started as Henry the 8th's replacement for the Catholic church when he needed to ditch yet another wife.

Sects are small, usually very conservative denominations that do not think anybody but their own members are saved. Good examples are the Amish and the Church of Christ. Join or burn in hell - accept everything we say or you are lost is the basic message.

The reason I called CC a franchise is - even though local branches don't pay for the rights to the name and information, they are duty bound to faithfully reproduce the "brand" in each city. There is very little room for individuality in a local branch. It is like McDonalds, go to one in California or Alaska or New York, you get the same food. CC is the same, everywhere you go it is the same experience. They do have local pastors, but could probably benefit enormously from new technology which would allow the California church to live feed everywhere. Probably the only reason why they haven't done it is time zone limitations.

The various non-denomination churches tend to be large and charismatic. Denominations do have some advantages, there are perks like money from the denomination, support from the denomination when your pastor gets sick or dies, standardized Sunday school curriculum, bulk purchasing power. A church going it alone without a denomination doesn't have the support structure, so it takes a substantial and / or dedicated membership to keep the money flowing and the church solvent. I've been a member of them, I tend to like them better because there is much more freedom in a large congregation for individuality to be respected. Be an individual who disagrees with the pastor in a church with 100 members, and you are in deep doo-doo. Also, a very large church has resources to keep the services interesting, they can pay for top notch musical talent, they are usually on TV so you don't have to go every single Sunday to keep up, you have more potential for making friends, etc. Small churches have an unfortunate characteristic of turning into houses of gossip instead of houses of worship, and every member is under the microscope if they fail to show up on Sunday or write their check for the tithe. Some of us prefer less control over our lives.

So how does this translate to radio? If you are Calvary Chapel, you want to spread your standardized doctrine wide and far, and buying hundreds or thousands of translator stations will help you do just that. So their attempt to flood the dial makes perfect sense from their perspective. Moody, AFR, BBN, and other older, more conservative radio networks had their roots in Baptist and other conservative denominations decades ago. Change is not a hallmark of such denominations, so it comes slow to their networks - which are inevitably controlled by high ranking, long term (read into that OLD) members of the denomination, who are not likely to be kindly disposed towards Christian rock or Christian hip-hop. Given their long term authority in their denomination, they tend to think they speak for God in matters of format on the network, so the programming on those networks makes perfect sense from their point of view.

So - why haven't the large non-denominational churches gotten into radio more? I think a lot of it has to do with the relative new nature of the movement. There are simply not a lot of licenses left after the commercial stations, public stations, and traditional churches split up the band years and years ago. It is expensive - even by mega-church standards - to break into the business now. A lot of these mega churches run on very slim margins - by faith. So they teter week to week on the verge of bankruptcy. Every once in a while you get an emergency sermon about how it is Biblical to tithe. Yes, it is, but you know a church is in trouble when those messages come every few weeks. It would be better for them to "count the cost of the tower" before going off on mega building programs with huge debt to the bank - only to fleece the flock when payments come due. Such churches are not likely to be big investors in radio, although I think it would help their cause.

I'll give you an example of this - actually a Calvary Chapel - the same one in Dallas I spoke of earlier. They built a new wing for a school. My daughter went there. After a few years, the school got into financial trouble. I knew some people at KLTY - the big Dallas CCM station. I called them, and they offered to give Calvary Chapel advertising for their school at a very discounted rate. It was a done deal, all they had to do is go in and finalize the content for the commercials. KLTY has huge ratings, you would think this would be considered a blessing - God's miraculous intervention at the time it was needed most. But - KLTY was not owned by Calvary Chapel. Instead, they chose to advertise on the Calvary Chapel station KKDR. Understand this - Calvary Chapel Dallas is in Plano, TX. KKDR is located in Decatur, TX, over 70 miles away! At the time, they were extremely weak at best over Plano. But - on went the commercials and - not a single new student because of them. The school folded. Without advertising, nothing happens. If you advertise on a deep fringe station, nothing will happen either. Calvary Chapel Dallas is chock full of DX'ers - who DX KKDR exclusively. I got one of them excited a few months back when I showed them a Sony SRF-59 that can pick up KKDR. No doubt they picked one up soon thereafter. Such is the mania and dedication of that sect for their sectarian material. It cost their church a school.
 
I find this discussion about Calvary Chapel quite interesting. In my radio days, the policy of our board of directors at WMIT-FM was to never feature too prominently one particular denomination. We had quite a variety of nationally known speakers, and the denominations were fairly evenly spread among the programmers. Dr. Billy Graham, as our Chairman and Founder, extended to all areas of his ministry a certain cooperation with various denominations, and his radio station was to be no different. In fact at the time there was a good number of baptist preachers who we wanted to broadcast. But we always had to wait until a baptist dropped out, which meant we were a little later getting on board with David Jeremiah, Charles Stanley, and we were never able to get Adrian Rogers on the FM.

But in the late 80s or so Franklin Graham started flexing his muscle. He had many friends in the Calvary Chapel movement, starting with Chuck Smith. One day as PD I was told he was going on every afternoon at 2:30, and I never even got a chance to audition his program. That was fine with me, as Chuck Smith was great. Next we got a box of tapes from Greg Laurie, who we had never heard of at that point. We were told he is going on at 5:30pm. I threaded up the tape, and his intro music back then was solid rock, very guitar and percussion heavy, very different than our mostly easy-listening sound at the time. We had reservations, but were quickly reminded Franklin would get whatever he wanted, so we put it on. Well after the initial shock of the "rock," he fit in quite well, and became popular. It wasn't long until we were told Laurie would also be broadcast at 5:30 am too, as well as our adding a new man from New Mexico at a Calvary Church there, Skip Heitzig. We pointed out to Franklin his dad's policy of not pushing any one denomination, but of course Franklin got his way, and we became very CC heavy. (By the way their programs were great and eventually very well received.)

Calvary Chapel and FG were quite adamant that they were not a denomination, but for me, and to me even today, they are a denomination, whether they want to call themselves that or not. To me its kind of like the Independent Baptist movement, who proudly proclaim their independence with no affiliations, but each church is affiliated with a particular division of independents, like Tennessee Temple, Bob Jones, etc.

And just an observation. When I was in Christian radio (18 years,) I thought we were the greatest "right hand" for the ministry of the church. But now as a pastor of a growing, thriving contemporary church, I find Christian radio enjoyable, even helpful, but not nearly as big a deal as I thought it was.
 
EJM said:
Beyond that, I'm not completely sure if it still does so, but Ohio-based WUFM (RadioU) definitely was operating as a network for some time. Also, if you need to talk with someone else, there's NW Ohio's Yes FM--which, I think, has a similar format but may never have offered its programming to other stations.

I am pretty sure that Radio U is still avail for syndication.

WayFM also still has their "Way Media Network Services" [Which was CHRSN].
 
EJM said:
FWIW, I forgot earlier that CSN's Effect Radio is still around. However, I think that it's only broadcast on CSN-owned outlets.


They call themselves "Christian Satellite Network" .. CSN was started by Calvary Chapel of Twin Falls.. However it appears in 2007 the church renamed to "The River Christian Fellowship"

From Effect Radio's page:

"Our church moved to the east side of Twin Falls, on the road to Shoshone Falls (which is in the Snake River Canyon), and in 2007, was renamed The River Christian Fellowship, theriverchristianfellowship.com - where CSN and The Effect are also located."


So I am guessing Calvary Chapel of Cali does not have direct involvement with the CSN Network like they did when it first started.
 
Preacherdude said:
Calvary Chapel and FG were quite adamant that they were not a denomination, but for me, and to me even today, they are a denomination, whether they want to call themselves that or not.

Yeah - I heard that too. They hate the word denomination - never any explanation as to why. But that is why I use the word "franchise", because of the amount of control by Chuck Smith. I still think they should just go ahead and broadband his messages to projection screens nationwide, to control the quality of the message.

Technically I would call them a sect, because if you aren't in it, you are always suspect of being less than saved somehow. I'd sure hate to walk in one and say I disagree with Chuck Smith on something. They can be really good - the ones in Ft. Lauderdale and Melbourne are dynamic, alive, wonderful fellowship and wonderful preaching. Among the best I've ever attended. But when things go wrong in one, they go very wrong. The last one I attended was riddled with gossip - against me, my wife, and my daughter. Also against several other families. We all left and joined Ed Young's Fellowship church. No gossip there! In fact the first Sunday I went, the very first message I heard from Ed Young Jr. was about - gossip in the church. I got the message loud and clear, that was where I needed to be. I never went back to CC, although I still have many good friends there, who somehow escaped the gossip.

So, again, their control of their radio network is as tight as McDonalds or another franchise controls their image nationwide. There is definitely the feeling that "they do Christianity best". Not to say they necessarily don't, but their idea of preaching the Bible straight through, beginning to end, then starting all over and doing it again - well if your church develops a problem like, say, gossip in its midst, and you are nowhere near Biblical instructions about gossip - the problem goes unchecked and out of control. So that would probably translate to radio, there is no guarantee that someone needing ministry would necessarily hear the teaching they need at the moment. They would hear wherever the radio preacher happens to be in the book and chapter sequence of the Bible. Thinking they do Christianity best, they also think they do radio best, and so should have thousands of translators. But - there is no "one size fits all Christian format". Christians are just as diverse as secular audiences, so it takes multiple formats to accommodate everybody. If CSN wants to spin more networks and try to do Christian rock and Christian hip-hop, great! But you can bet it will be their own artists and songs - unless a Christian artist's song exactly fits their doctrine.

I didin't know the Franklin Graham connection, but it doesn't surprise me. Unless you have been in a CC that failed you, they look like the best thing since the reformation. So outsiders looking in see a very different reality that those who are on the inside looking out.
 
rbrucecarter5 said:
So, again, their control of their radio network is as tight as McDonalds or another franchise controls their image nationwide. There is definitely the feeling that "they do Christianity best". Not to say they necessarily don't, but their idea of preaching the Bible straight through, beginning to end, then starting all over and doing it again - well if your church develops a problem like, say, gossip in its midst, and you are nowhere near Biblical instructions about gossip - the problem goes unchecked and out of control. So that would probably translate to radio, there is no guarantee that someone needing ministry would necessarily hear the teaching they need at the moment. They would hear wherever the radio preacher happens to be in the book and chapter sequence of the Bible. Thinking they do Christianity best, they also think they do radio best, and so should have thousands of translators. But - there is no "one size fits all Christian format". Christians are just as diverse as secular audiences, so it takes multiple formats to accommodate everybody. If CSN wants to spin more networks and try to do Christian rock and Christian hip-hop, great! But you can bet it will be their own artists and songs - unless a Christian artist's song exactly fits their doctrine.

I didin't know the Franklin Graham connection, but it doesn't surprise me. Unless you have been in a CC that failed you, they look like the best thing since the reformation. So outsiders looking in see a very different reality that those who are on the inside looking out.

My first reaction in reading your post about 3 or 4 messages back was: "Oh Boy! Here we go off on a tanget" but actually it was the springboard to explaining how our tastes in Christian music and Christian radio are so scattered... so fractured. "The Church" is somewhat fractured and scattered and I am comfortable saying "It always has been!" I think you did a good job of sizing things up... though I would offer amendments and expansions on some of your definitions, that seems to be the message we are dealing with. There is NOT one single way to experience and express The Gospel.

One of the things expressed here is the idea that denominations financially support local churches. The is sometimes true in the start-up of new congregations and sometimes true in trying to breathe new viability into an old, dying congregations. Those of use in the old, large, main-line denominations can tell you about how much money we as congregations pay to support the denomination.

Your observations about the problem of gossip is quite on target. We who grew up on farms know that once a chicken in a barnyard flock has an illness or injury, the rest of the chickens are likely to "peck the suffering chicken to death" if there is no intervention. We gossiping human beings have our own version of that trait and it is called gossip.

Since we have so many differing thoughts on how church is to organized/structured, on how the Bible is to be read/interpreted, and differing thoughts on the history of The Church, why do we find it surprising that we separate into some many 'musical camps' regarding Christian music.

Let me throw one more thought into the discussion. Our willingness, our eagerness to "split hairs" and divide up into "camps of Christian thinking" is something of a uniquely American thing. Some one dear to me has chosen to engage in Buddhist Meditation. In our conversations it became evident to me that there are sub-groups within Buddhism... the equivalent of denominations. So asked about it. Oh, it's an American phenomena. There may be more Buddhist divisions in America than Baptist groups. That is saying in LOT!
 
I like Orlando's Positive hip-hop and R&B 95.9 FM radio station. I'm listening through the Shoutcast website as I type this. They play songs from artists like Lecrae, Tedashii, and Group 1 Crew.
 
werecat said:
I like Orlando's Positive hip-hop and R&B 95.9 FM radio station. I'm listening through the Shoutcast website as I type this. They play songs from artists like Lecrae, Tedashii, and Group 1 Crew.

Yep! That's one of Z88.3 WPOZ-FM (The #1 station in Orlando --with Christian AC)'s HD channels! They also run an HD Channel on analog translator 106.3 in the Orlando area with Christian Rock! Deano and the gang at Z are top notch at what they do!

Hot 95.9 [also on WPOZ HD-2] pulls around a 1.0 in the PPMs in Orlando .. One of the few HD on translators that can do that (and with a Christian Hip hop format).
 
My favorite online Christian radio stations: Lutheran Public Radio for wonderful sacred music of the church. From Gregorian Chant to modern day hymns. They don't do praise and worship or CCM, etc. ONLY hymns and ancient sacred music. http://lutheranpublicradio.org/

Second one is: Lutheran Public Radio's talk programs call Issues, Etc. http://issuesetc.org/ They discuss all sorts of church history, church related, bible related, issues of today, etc.
 
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