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Best FM preset for Sound Solutions?

R

radiopilot

Hello all,

I'm broadcasting FM right now and using the presets I have now, Sound Solutions V1.32 on the Zararadio player, the FM sound twinny or tinny somehow, I went through all the presets, including SamBuca's preset but it all sounds tinny... I'm playing the sound through the mixer and then out to the transmitter... was wondering what are you using for the preset, and how much leveling are you using on the mixer, are you using the equalizer as well?

Any help is greatly appreciated...

Radiopilot
 
You must be doing something wrong. Mine is almost too bassy.

Don't use the built in preemphasis...get a decent 75us curve and NRSC filter.<P ID="signature">______________
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> You must be doing something wrong. Mine is almost too
> bassy.
>
> Don't use the built in preemphasis...get a decent 75us curve
> and NRSC filter.
>


I'm not using the built in preemphasis, the preemphasis is on the transmitter itself (75us), it does sound 'bassy' for the older music, but the high end sounds tinny on the newer stuff, perhaps the upper end needs filtering?

I'm right now using the 'Optimod 8400 FM' preset.... it sounds alright for 80's and some 90's music, but on the newer music it sounds 'tinny', would this have anything to do with how they master this music today (overly clipped)?

Thanks...

Radiopilot
 
> > You must be doing something wrong. Mine is almost too
> > bassy.
> >
> > Don't use the built in preemphasis...get a decent 75us
> curve
> > and NRSC filter.
> >
>
>
> I'm not using the built in preemphasis, the preemphasis is
> on the transmitter itself (75us), it does sound 'bassy' for
> the older music, but the high end sounds tinny on the newer
> stuff, perhaps the upper end needs filtering?
>
> I'm right now using the 'Optimod 8400 FM' preset.... it
> sounds alright for 80's and some 90's music, but on the
> newer music it sounds 'tinny', would this have anything to
> do with how they master this music today (overly clipped)?
>
> Thanks...
>
Thats what I use but I run a 10 Band Equalizer with it.
> Radiopilot
>
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> > > You must be doing something wrong. Mine is almost too
> > > bassy.
> > >
> > > Don't use the built in preemphasis...get a decent 75us
> > curve
> > > and NRSC filter.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I'm not using the built in preemphasis, the preemphasis is
>
> > on the transmitter itself (75us), it does sound 'bassy'
> for
> > the older music, but the high end sounds tinny on the
> newer
> > stuff, perhaps the upper end needs filtering?
> >
> > I'm right now using the 'Optimod 8400 FM' preset.... it
> > sounds alright for 80's and some 90's music, but on the
> > newer music it sounds 'tinny', would this have anything to
>
> > do with how they master this music today (overly clipped)?
>
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> Thats what I use but I run a 10 Band Equalizer with it.
> > Radiopilot
> >
>

I have a 10 band equalizer also, and have all of it set to '0' and run it flat... the music sounds good this way, should the equalizer be set to some set pattern, I can use the pre-configured preset's with the Nvidia NVmixer (software based) that runs on my computer, but should I set the hardware equalizer to some set pattern? Should the hardware equalizer be bypassed?

Thanks...

Radiopilot
 
Hey Sam...

Have you tried Sound Solution v2.0 (beta) yet? I think the AGC and multiband sections are improved, but the clipping still needs improvement.
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> I'm broadcasting FM right now and using the presets I have
> now, Sound Solutions V1.32 on the Zararadio player, the FM
> sound twinny or tinny somehow, I went through all the
> presets, including SamBuca's preset but it all sounds
> tinny...

If your FM transmitter has built-in pre-emphasis (as many low-power ones do), then don't use Sound Solution's pre-emphasis option, or it will sound very tinny because you'll be doubling up on the pre-emphasis.

Try feeding your transmitter with unprocessed audio. If it sounds okay, then you know it has built-in pre-emphasis. If it sounds very dull and muffled, then you know it doesn't have built-in pre-emphasis, and that's when you need to use the pre-emphasis option of Sound Solution.
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> > I'm broadcasting FM right now and using the presets I have
>
> > now, Sound Solutions V1.32 on the Zararadio player, the FM
>
> > sound twinny or tinny somehow, I went through all the
> > presets, including SamBuca's preset but it all sounds
> > tinny...
>
> If your FM transmitter has built-in pre-emphasis (as many
> low-power ones do), then don't use Sound Solution's
> pre-emphasis option, or it will sound very tinny because
> you'll be doubling up on the pre-emphasis.
>
> Try feeding your transmitter with unprocessed audio. If it
> sounds okay, then you know it has built-in pre-emphasis. If
> it sounds very dull and muffled, then you know it doesn't
> have built-in pre-emphasis, and that's when you need to use
> the pre-emphasis option of Sound Solution.
>

Thanks, I don't use the pre-emphasis on the Sound Solutions as the transmitter is already set up for that... in fact I tried just using the Nvidia equalizer and set my 'hardware' equalizer to '0' on all pots and it helped greatly, perhaps I was filtering just a little too much...

Radiopilot
 
SS 2.0

Does anyone know when the full version will be released, Its hard to work on it and try and find a sweet spot when its cutting out every 4 mintues. Or is there a way to get around that for the time being?
 
Re: Hey Sam...

> Have you tried Sound Solution v2.0 (beta) yet? I think the
> AGC and multiband sections are improved, but the clipping
> still needs improvement.

Haven't tried it yet. The trouble with SS is oversampling. It doesn't have bandwidth wide enough to overcome distortion. That eats up CPU cycles though. Not a problem when hardware does it...definitely a problem when software does it.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > I'm broadcasting FM right now and using the presets I have
>
> > now, Sound Solutions V1.32 on the Zararadio player, the FM
>
> > sound twinny or tinny somehow, I went through all the
> > presets, including SamBuca's preset but it all sounds
> > tinny...
>
> If your FM transmitter has built-in pre-emphasis (as many
> low-power ones do), then don't use Sound Solution's
> pre-emphasis option, or it will sound very tinny because
> you'll be doubling up on the pre-emphasis.
>
> Try feeding your transmitter with unprocessed audio. If it
> sounds okay, then you know it has built-in pre-emphasis. If
> it sounds very dull and muffled, then you know it doesn't
> have built-in pre-emphasis, and that's when you need to use
> the pre-emphasis option of Sound Solution.
>


Why don't you just stick in the the headphone jack via monster cable into your say Denom, Yamaha, etc. receiver that's tuned to your radio frequency and relays the audio to your transmitter. I've done it, and it sounds alright to me.
And just transmit it.
 
> > > I'm broadcasting FM right now and using the presets I
> have
> >
> > > now, Sound Solutions V1.32 on the Zararadio player, the
> FM
> >
> > > sound twinny or tinny somehow, I went through all the
> > > presets, including SamBuca's preset but it all sounds
> > > tinny...
> >
> > If your FM transmitter has built-in pre-emphasis (as many
> > low-power ones do), then don't use Sound Solution's
> > pre-emphasis option, or it will sound very tinny because
> > you'll be doubling up on the pre-emphasis.
> >
> > Try feeding your transmitter with unprocessed audio. If
> it
> > sounds okay, then you know it has built-in pre-emphasis.
> If
> > it sounds very dull and muffled, then you know it doesn't
> > have built-in pre-emphasis, and that's when you need to
> use
> > the pre-emphasis option of Sound Solution.
> >
>
> Thanks, I don't use the pre-emphasis on the Sound Solutions
> as the transmitter is already set up for that... in fact I
> tried just using the Nvidia equalizer and set my 'hardware'
> equalizer to '0' on all pots and it helped greatly, perhaps
> I was filtering just a little too much...
>
> Radiopilot
>

I've been told before that the 75u preemphasis set to strong can blow out your soundcard. Depending what sound card you have.
 
> I've been told before that the 75u preemphasis set to strong
> can blow out your soundcard. Depending what sound card you
> have.

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Hardware damage caused by errant programming

> I've been told that computer viruses set your CPU on fire
> and cause your hard drive arm to fall off.

It's a shame that today's PCs don't have the same potential for hardware damage caused by malicious programming that the ones of yesteryear had. For example, a seek pattern which could "walk" an external hard drive unit off a table, or the infamous "smoke poke" which could burn out the monitor of a Commodore PET or early IBM PC.

Then there were the old high-speed line printers which could overheat if they had a paper jam or ran out of paper. This prompted a UNIX error message which still exists today in Linux: "printer on fire!"

Of course, *nix is full of strange error messages, such as "Host controller halted, very bad!" and "My penguins are burning. Are you able to smell it?"....
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Re: Hardware damage caused by errant programming

> Of course, *nix is full of strange error messages, such as
> "Host controller halted, very bad!" and "My penguins are
> burning. Are you able to smell it?"....

4 years ago radio info's server was having issues...it would have a kernel "oops", announce to the console it was "crashing..." and then give a null pointer dereference.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Hardware damage caused by errant programming

> > Of course, *nix is full of strange error messages, such as
>
> > "Host controller halted, very bad!" and "My penguins are
> > burning. Are you able to smell it?"....
>
> 4 years ago radio info's server was having issues...it would
> have a kernel "oops", announce to the console it was
> "crashing..." and then give a null pointer dereference.
>
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