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BIA FINANCIALS - BOOK AVAILABLE?

Does anyone have a copy of last year's BIA'S Radio Ownership Report available for sale?

The current price of the new book is prohibitive but I would be interested in a used copy. I'm specifically looking for the information relating to the gross revenues of stations in various regions.

If you know of a free source that has that info, I would be interested in that too.

We're looking to buy but want to see how stations are performing in vairous markets.. obviously most have lower revenues as of late , but it would give us a ball park number to start with.

thanks! josh
 
You're interested in buying a radio station and can't shell out the $1200 bucks or whatever it is to get accurate up-to-date information? How are you going to pay the electric bill?
 
We already own a station and translator but are looking for a bigger property.

In my opinion a thousand dollars for a book, is a tad too much. I didn't get to be a station owner by throwing money into the wind. :D
 
Would a metropolitan library possibly have one?
 
Prais said:
Make friends with a broker or fcc attorney.

Another possibility would be establishing a close relationship, maybe a mentor relationship, with an established broadcaster. This would be someone who recognizes you don't belong on his/her staff... you should have your own operation... but is available for an occasional "chew the fat" session, and and peek at the BIA books that comfortably sit in his/her bookshelf.

I went through too much of life and opportunity before I realized I was not cut out to be totally a "lone wolf" and that I needed collaboration and maybe partnership.
 
nolaradiobuff said:
You're interested in buying a radio station and can't shell out the $1200 bucks or whatever it is to get accurate up-to-date information? How are you going to pay the electric bill?

That's the spirit, nola.... and he ought to buy software that predict and draw accurate coverage and interference areas. He ought to subscribe to a set of CCH or who ever is publishing the reference books CPAs use today to keep up with tax law. And instead of posting requests about which automation machines are best, he should simply buy one of each, buy a computer for each one, and set them all up in his family room at home and test them all. And in his spare time he should attend night school and get his law degree to understand all these FCC publications.... and he should subscribe to the Federal Register, also.

After all, we all know that everybody in the radio business started that way.
 
Mr. Goat said, "I went through too much of life and opportunity before I realized I was not cut out to be totally a "lone wolf" and that I needed collaboration and maybe partnership."

ME TOO! Then I realized what a conniving cowardly thief my business partner was - and finally go the balls to do things myself - and it worked out ALOT better. I had lots of mentors, including 2 old radio bosses - who were quite thrilled to help me.
 
Prais said:
Mr. Goat said, "I went through too much of life and opportunity before I realized I was not cut out to be totally a "lone wolf" and that I needed collaboration and maybe partnership."

ME TOO! Then I realized what a conniving cowardly thief my business partner was - and finally go the balls to do things myself - and it worked out ALOT better. I had lots of mentors, including 2 old radio bosses - who were quite thrilled to help me.

I had heard a lot of stories like your own where partners turned out to be scoundrels so very early on I became determined to do it on my own, and to learn as much about every "talent" or skill one needs to make a business run. I can say as one of my mentors used to say in "mock humility".... "I'm no accountant, but I am a pretty fair country store bookkeeper." And when I saw what some bull-headed engineers did to station owners I got my First Phone and enough technical smarts to hold my own in conversation with the best of station engineers.

But here is what I learned from one of my own offspring.... in an observation about architects, planners, consulting engineers and maybe law firms. Look how many dominant firms have, or had THREE FOUNDING PARTNERS. There will be typically three names that make up the firm name, even if they have grown to the point where they now have a dozen, three dozen or twelve dozen "principals" in the firm. You need a finder, a minder and a grinder. There are a couple of other versions of this tale, but in the end it boils down to: 1. someone who can bring in the business. (In law firms I think the affectionate description is a "rainmaker".) 2. someone who can sweat blood, yell and shout (sometimes including profanities) and bring the project in on-time and on-budget. 3. someone who can be the administrator, the one who enforces some discipline, see that files are filed, taxes are paid correctly and on time, and the laws and regulations are known and followed closely enough to avoid law suits and jail time.

In small radio station it is often a husband and wife that give the stool two of those legs with one of those functions in the hands of an outside partner or maybe a son-in-law.

But those, who like yourself are able to move forward as a one-person shop, need to keep balance on these three legs of the stool.
 
Bill Wolfenbarger said:
Would a metropolitan library possibly have one?

Not too likely, but it is possible one of the university libraries attached to a major communications school might. The BIA folks are very nice; a call to them might get the name of any libraries or public-accessable locations. I think they would understand that a one-time buyer in a smaller market can't afford the book or other services, yet making a good impression might be key to getting a future client.
 
Thanks for the advice but I'm actually loooking to buy a previous edition.

If there is anyone that has a previous edition, please contact me. Thanks. josh
 
josh said:
Thanks for the advice but I'm actually loooking to buy a previous edition.

If there is anyone that has a previous edition, please contact me. Thanks. josh

Years ago I used to buy a personal copy of the previous edition at the BIA booth at NAB spring or fall. You might ask them if the still have these at a well-reduced rate.
 
josh said:
I did that at last year's NAB and was given an outlandish price. josh

I used to get them for about 40% off each time until I got the electronic subscription.
 
Ok, everyone bash away.

My question is: if you own a station and are looking to purchase another, why haven't you already networked with other owners that may or may not have the BIA?

I'm not a station owner but I know owners everywhere. We email, talk, bounce ideas off each other, talk radio and politics and family.

That was my point. Work your circle before anonymously posting to a message board. But, I guess if you don't have a circle...
 
Thanks for you advice. We already network with lots of owners. The people that buy those books generally speaking are the owners of companies like Clear Channel etc.

No one that I know has a book for sale. josh
 
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