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Biased terminology on KTRH

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In other words you believe what you want to believe, and ignore anything that might question that.

I understand. No problem. Keep up the good work.

Not quite.

I'm just saying you keep injecting distracting, off-topic questions and statements into this discussion, and I'm not going to waste time on your nonsense.

You seem to be trying to question Berliner's credentials, since his piece doesn't fit with your view of NPR overall. I'm discussing what's presented in the article he wrote, and in the NPR response, which actually fails to address the concerns he cited.

It's not my job to research his business reporting at NPR, and evaluate it for bias. That's your job if you want to drag off-topic distractions into the discussion.
 
I'm just saying you keep injecting distracting, off-topic questions and statements into this discussion, and I'm not going to waste time on your nonsense.

Nothing I said is off topic. It just doesn't fit your view of NPR. You agree with what he wrote, and anything that questions it is off topic. He's just putting his views out there, and we all have a right to question them.
 
Nothing I said is off topic. It just doesn't fit your view of NPR. You agree with what he wrote, and anything that questions it is off topic. He's just putting his views out there, and we all have a right to question them.

The bias, or lack of it in the business reporting on NPR that he oversees is off-topic.

If it's not, tie it in for us. Explain what your own research on this topic indicates. If there's something actually relevant to the discussion there, show us what it is.
 
A newscaster at KTRH started a story about immigration talking about "hordes of illegals." Was that appropriate? Was that unbiased reporting? Is anyone at KTRH asking serious questions about bias in their newsroom? If not, why not?
If you lived in the area within a hundred or so miles of the border (as I also do) you would be concerned about the economic effect, the non-vetted nature of nearly all border crossers, the increase in crime, the increase in wild "escape if you can" driving, and the general fear of people who's very identity and origins are untraceable.

So, in that environment, "hordes of illegals" expresses very well the concern we have when out driving, seeing odd behaviours in shopping area parking lots, reading our daily police reports and noting the increase in thefts and assaults.
 
So, in that environment, "hordes of illegals" expresses very well the concern we have when out driving, seeing odd behaviours in shopping area parking lots, reading our daily police reports and noting the increase in thefts and assaults.

But is it factual or offensive? That was the question you yourself asked.
 
Now you're the one who's taking us off topic. I just asked why he didn't cover business topics in his article.

And I didn't answer, because it's irrelevant.

He made his point. He backed his point with facts. The fact that he didn't cover subjects irrelevant to the point he was discussing doesn't bother me.

He also didn't talk about dogs, cats, what kind of oatmeal is best, or any of the other million or so irrelevant topics he could have thrown in.
 
But is it factual or offensive? That was the question you yourself asked.
And I think that we have gotten, 128 messages later, to the point where there is some agreement that each partisan group has its own acceptable terminology.

To me (and to my former Univision TV news anchor and national radio personalty partner) the term "hordes of illegals" represents factually what we are witnessing in our own little metro area.
 
"There are hordes of cars on the Katy Freeway..."
KTRH; "This is just elitist cyclists spreading their left wing propaganda!"

KUHF; "BLM! Bike Lives Matter!"

KTRH; "Deport those savage cyclists back to those communist velodrome sh*tholes!"

KUHF; "Stop putting children in cages with four wheels!" (Biker slang for cars)

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Here is a meme that encapsulates this thread!

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And I didn't answer, because it's irrelevant.

He made his point. He backed his point with facts. The fact that he didn't cover subjects irrelevant to the point he was discussing doesn't bother me.

But he was SELECTIVE with his facts and he eliminated any context from them in order to prove a point.

That kind of BIAS BY OMISSION is what he accused NPR of doing. That's MY point.
 
But he was SELECTIVE with his facts and he eliminated any context from them in order to prove a point.

That kind of BIAS BY OMISSION is what he accused NPR of doing. That's MY point.

Berliner provided the context for NPR's erroneous decisions in each case.

Bias by omission occurs when the facts are known, but not reported by a particular outlet because they don't fit the narrative.

Has NPR been accused of bias omission with regard to the business stories Berliner oversees for them?

The examples he cited are well known cases which would have been politically damaging to liberals or liberal causes.

Do you have any examples of his business reporting which fits the type of bias he's describing?

If you can't cite any, you don't have much of a point.
 
The examples he cited are well known cases which would have been politically damaging to liberals or liberal causes.

But were they true? Or just damaging to liberals? NPR directly responded to criticism of their lack of coverage about the Hunter laptop story at the time. Four years later, we can all see what a red herring it was, because there was no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden. If there was, we'd know by now. Guiliani pushed this story because it was potentially damaging, which was what he was after. Had there been an actual story of wrongdoing, they would have covered it.


Do you have any examples of his business reporting which fits the type of bias he's describing?

I don't understand why you keep bringing this up. The only reason I mentioned it was as an example of stories he has direct knowledge of. The other stories were overseen by other editors. So he doesn't really have first-hand knowledge. As I said, he's just repeating stories that others have already brought up. They're just his opinions.
 
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They changed the law in 1986 that made all the illegals who got in before 1982 legal under certain circumstances.



So a lot of Hispanic immigrants got a break. This was during Ronald Reagan's administration. Then they changed the law again at the end of the 90s. That was really the last time the law was changed.

We need to do for immigrants today what was done for them then. We used to be the land of opportunity. Now we want to shut the border and keep only Hispanics out. This is all aimed at Hispanics. My friend from Australia is treated differently than people from south and central America. We need a law that has a path to citizenship that is fair for all immigrants.


It's too late for that. Their home countries are screwed up. The process is broken. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Some of these people have been here for 20 years and their case hasn't been heard yet. They've gone to college, they've had kids, their kids are citizens, and they are not. We've never treated people like this. Never. That's why the poster called it racist. Because it's all aimed at Hispanics. Yes Hispanics are not a race, but they are being targeted by their country of origin. The politicians have to fix the problem, and the problem won't be fixed by deportations. These people are doing the work needed to keep this economy moving and food on the table affordable. All 6 people killed when the Baltimore bridge collapsed were Hispanic immigrants, mostly from Mexico.

Having radio newscasters lump all immigrants on one category because they're Hispanic is unfair and discriminatory.

You might find this article written yesterday by a (likely soon to be former) senior editor at NPR illuminating:

I’ve Been at NPR for 25 Years. Here’s How We Lost America’s Trust.

In a nutshell, he acknowledges and outs pervasive political bias at NPR, much of which manifests as the news they don't report - bias by omission.

Given that so much of KUHF's daily programming comes off the NPR bird, I would posit that KUHF offers an alternative, but only if you're looking for one with a pronounced liberal bias. The local KUHF programming I have followed is indistinguishable from NPR's when it comes to national politics.

So while KTRH is perhaps using politically charged language in their reporting, I don't find it all that concerning. Nobody who listens to KTRH (or any of the iHeart right-wing talk stations nationwide) expects unbiased reporting.

What happens on KUHF and other NPR member stations nationwide is much more concerning. They have a razor thin veneer of journalistic integrity, which is being permeated by liberal ideological advocacy. They attempt to project an image of unbiased, just the facts journalism, when their actual product doesn't reflect that.

NPR, and KUHF by extension, is a steady diet of news being presented through a far left filter.

To assert that they represent objective journalism in 2024 is simply disingenuous, as Uri Berliner points out in the Free Press.
What's the definition of "far left"? I don't hear anyone calling for the confiscation of private property. Thinking Americans shouldn't go bankrupt from medical bills? Count me "far left".
 
And I think that we have gotten, 128 messages later, to the point where there is some agreement that each partisan group has its own acceptable terminology.

To me (and to my former Univision TV news anchor and national radio personalty partner) the term "hordes of illegals" represents factually what we are witnessing in our own little metro area.
In far-off Tennessee, we're being told we're being overrun by hordes of illegals, however I don't see any more Hispanics than I ever have. It's meant to inflame racial fears.
 
I’m hoping for news on the 92.1 and 97.5 sale situations so we can have something else to talk about.
You can talk about how bad the KILT and KPRC signals have become in Galveston now that they've diplexed onto other stations' arrays.
 
You're telling me there are hordes of illegals in Palm Springs?
In the metro, yes. Indio, Thermal, Coachella are so filled that the largest local food bank ran a special fund raiser last Friday because they can't keep up. One local source estimated that there were as many as 20,000 new "residents" and that would be a full 5% increase in population in the last year.

Naturally, we can't tell who is legal and who is not by sight. But when you have a huge increase in population for no other apparent reason, it's not hard to make a conclusion.

The market is 54% Hispanic to begin with, and many new arrivals have friends, family or contacts here. And the agricultural industry is notorious for not checking "papers" for farm workers. The farmland that extends down as far as Calexico begins a mile or two from where I live.
 
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