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"Big Announcement" Regarding John and Ken on Monday

Ah, you have much to learn about the norms of radiodiscussions.com.
Yep!

Those of us who moderate know that sidebars to "the original topic" are much of the fun and discovery process here. We tend not to stop these excursions unless they are no longer related to radio in any fashion.
 
Why have y'all let this thread get so far off course it's about ken retiring.
... because this board has always encouraged the discovery of new and interesting aspects and sidebars. Think of this like Fabergé eggs, where any topic may have interesting derivatives inside them.
 
Why have y'all let this thread get so far off course it's about ken retiring.
... because this board has always encouraged the discovery of new and interesting aspects and sidebars. Think of this like Fabergé eggs, where any topic may have interesting derivatives inside them.
Patrick, if you're hot for staying tightly on topic, I can offer an alternate board for you to try. It's all about New York City radio, it's run by a little tyrant who gets very cranked up if you deviate from what he considers to be "on topic", who makes posts disappear if he disagrees with them or finds them offensive, or if a post makes him look like he's not the smartest kid in the class. (Guaranteed that will happen with most of your submissions.) Some of us are refugees from that board.

If I haven't dissuaded you with this description, PM me and I'll give you the URL, if you haven't already found it yourself.
 
Patrick, if you're hot for staying tightly on topic, I can offer an alternate board for you to try. It's all about New York City radio, it's run by a little tyrant who gets very cranked up if you deviate from what he considers to be "on topic", who makes posts disappear if he disagrees with them or finds them offensive, or if a post makes him look like he's not the smartest kid in the class. (Guaranteed that will happen with most of your submissions.) Some of us are refugees from that board.

If I haven't dissuaded you with this description, PM me and I'll give you the URL, if you haven't already found it yourself.
To be fare I am not a stickler for staying on topic but just what they are talking about is inside baseball n boring to me but to each there own. Thx for the tip.
 
Remember, KGBS was a daytimer until the mid-70's. When Storer bought KPOP, a 5 kw daytimer, it went to Beautiful Music. They tried a variety of formats, such as Country, personality MOR and the like until the fulltime facility was built and they went Top 40... right when contemporary music formats were all moving to FM.

Storer had a lot of difficulty figuring out what to do with big market AMs, including New York, Detroit, LA, Miami and others. They understood FM so poorly that they sold most of the ones they had in the later 60's.

But they made tons of money with their TV stations, and the stock went way up. What I made on Storer stock and a couple of others paid for my own first radio station in 1964.
KGBS upgraded to 50 kW DA in 1960 and continued to operate as a daytimer, except on Sundays when they returned to the air at 9 PM Pacific time and operated until 2 AM Pacific Time Monday morning. This time period corresponded to KDKA's off the air maintenance period 12 midnight to 5 AM Pittsburgh time.

BTW talking about different formats on KGBS. This was the station that made Bill Ballance famous with his mid day "Feminine Forum" show . So famous that certain feminist groups tried to get him thrown off the air. Didn't work, he just changed the name of his show to simply the Bill Ballance program with no other changes and became even more popular. He show was great - it seemed that every one in town was listening !
 
KGBS upgraded to 50 kW DA in 1960 and continued to operate as a daytimer, except on Sundays when they returned to the air at 9 PM Pacific time and operated until 2 AM Pacific Time Monday morning. This time period corresponded to KDKA's off the air maintenance period 12 midnight to 5 AM Pittsburgh time.
I visited KGBS in the year they upgraded to 50 kw and got the KGBS call letters. They were in the old funeral parlor where the main floor sloped to enhance the run-off of blood from cadavers.

I’d visit Storer stations and say I was a shareholder… which I was… and that guaranteed me a tour conducted by the GM or a department head. They found it amusing that a 13 year-old was a stockholder and personally inspecting his investment.
 
"Gentle Country" was when KGBS went back to Country in 1974---not the 60s incarnation.
I was in LA in the 60s and have no recollection of the station as country which must have been before their "Beautiful Music" format, which is the first format I personally heard on the station. (I wish I'd been able to hear Art Laboe on the the station when it was KPOP in the 50s, but I was too young). KGBS had switched to Top 40 by the time I was in high school in the late 60s. They then went to talk (at least in mid days with Bill Ballance as I mentioned on another post) . "Gentle Country" after that, and I think this is about when they changed to KTNQ and back to Top 40 with of course the great Charlie Tuna.

BTW I know I noted this on another thread, but I always thought it was funny that when I was in HS a friend of mine who listened to KGBS (the station was still a daytimer back then) wondered how come when he drove around in the daytime KGBS sounded great, but at night when he punched his KGBS preset button the station was incredibly weak. Well he flipped when I told him he was actually listening to KSWS Roswell NM. He wondered how the "H" is that possible? I attempted to explain sky wave propagation in simple terms but of course the poor guy had no clue as to what I was talking about, I advised him just to punch up KRLA or KHJ instead !
 
I visited KGBS in the year they upgraded to 50 kw and got the KGBS call letters. They were in the old funeral parlor where the main floor sloped to enhance the run-off of blood from cadavers.

I’d visit Storer stations and say I was a shareholder… which I was… and that guaranteed me a tour conducted by the GM or a department head. They found it amusing that a 13 year-old was a stockholder and personally inspecting his investment.
"Enhance the run-off"? That's insane!
 
I wish I could remember the year, but I did read in one of the trades that since under the new ownership KABC was now no longer an ABC News affiliate and therefore dropped the top of the hour network newscasts. In the same article it was reported that KFI had then signed with ABC News and the affiliation was to begin "in January". This apparently never happened. My guess was that KFI expected KABC's new owners would drop those legacy call letters seeing that the station had nothing to do with ABC. But since this never happened, I figured that KFI thought it would be strange to air ABC news at the top of the hour when at the same time a competitor in the same market called itself "KABC".
I hear Alex Stone from ABC frequently interviewed by John and Ken.
 
The J and K show's Instagram page shows a post announcing that "The John Kobylt Show" begins the following Monday. Whether that means just he and Debra Mark , or an eventual co-host joins John, who knows. But as has been wisely pointed out here, it's invariably true about one half of a heritage team's remaining in the time slot is a tough road to navigate. Kevin Ryder was bounced less than six months after "Bean's" retirement. The whole usually is worth more than the sum of the parts.
I enjoy Debrah Mark joking with John. They have good chemistry.
 
I'm pretty much a newcomer to this forum, but I couldn't be happier to see the comments go off on tangents. If J and K led to old KFI programming and thence to KMPC jingles, well, where else are you gonna be in a group of people who know about such things and put them up for discussion. As for KMPC, I am acquainted with Bob Forward's daughter Bonnie. Talk about an amazing career, which included working for Jack Webb in Mark VII Productions. Now I'm really veering off topic.
 
... because this board has always encouraged the discovery of new and interesting aspects and sidebars. Think of this like Fabergé eggs, where any topic may have interesting derivatives inside them.
I get a lot of laughs from
The tangents on this chat site.
Sometimes I learn interesting facts.
The great PD Ken Draper at WCFL in Chicago and later an LA radio consultant said he was thrilled to get the Johnny Mann singers on WCFL.
 
I was in LA in the 60s and have no recollection of the station as country which must have been before their "Beautiful Music" format, which is the first format I personally heard on the station.
Tomas:

Nope.

KGBS was beautiful music from 1960 to 1965, Country from 1965 to 1968, pop (I don’t really have a better description) from 1968 to 1974 and Gentle Country from 1974 until the day after Christmas, 1976, when they went 24 hours and Top 40 as KTNQ.
 
Tomas:

Nope.

KGBS was beautiful music from 1960 to 1965, Country from 1965 to 1968, pop (I don’t really have a better description) from 1968 to 1974 and Gentle Country from 1974 until the day after Christmas, 1976, when they went 24 hours and Top 40 as KTNQ.
It was Top 40 during that period, because I listened to it. (Funny, that I have absolutely no recollection of the station being country other than the later Gentle Country format.) Its worth mentioning that KGBS was the "infamous" station in LA that edited out "Christ" from the chorus of "The Ballad of John and Yoko". It seemed absurd. Was the Storer company run by particularly religious folks?

In the early 60s when I thought of Country radio it was really just KFOX 1280 (if you could hear it) or KWOW 1600 (really hard to hear) and finally KIEV 870 in between their blocks of paid programming.
 
Patrick, if you're hot for staying tightly on topic, I can offer an alternate board for you to try. It's all about New York City radio, it's run by a little tyrant who gets very cranked up if you deviate from what he considers to be "on topic", who makes posts disappear if he disagrees with them or finds them offensive, or if a post makes him look like he's not the smartest kid in the class. (Guaranteed that will happen with most of your submissions.) Some of us are refugees from that board.

If I haven't dissuaded you with this description, PM me and I'll give you the URL, if you haven't already found it yourself.
Speaking of talk shows that were syndicated to BVT in the late 90's, I remember Don and Mike talking about said moderator, and suggesting grotesque acts that he might perform with a warm tray of macaroni and cheese...a year or two before the release of "American Pie."
 
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