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Big Ed Schultz is staying on XM Radio

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But moving to a different channel, ASK!

This according to the xmfan.com forums.

DR. "Laura (I refuse to put a title in front of her name, since her doctorate is in physiology, not in a mental health field, as she would fraudulently want you to believe) is being moved to make room for the Ed Schultz show on the Ask! channel. Ed Schultz is moving off the newly named Air America channel so the full Air America lineup can be provided. Ed announced this on his show on 8/22 and said it would be effective 9/1."
http://www.xmfan.com/viewtopic.php?t=47469

Great, more balance now. AAR and Ed Shultz on the left and CNN, MSRNC, Fox News, and the rest of the ditoheads on the right.
 
> Will they replace Colmes with Malloy?
>


I'm pretty sure that 167 will be strictly Air America. So, I'm thinking they move Alan "Whipping Boy" Colmes to a different channel also. Possibly Fox News?
 
> > Will they replace Colmes with Malloy?
> >
>
>
> I'm pretty sure that 167 will be strictly Air America. So,
> I'm thinking they move Alan "Whipping Boy" Colmes to a
> different channel also. Possibly Fox News?
>

Bringing in Stephanie Miller for Springer's timeslot would help alot, to bad he is "officially" aar and can't be bumped...
 
> DR. "Laura (I refuse to put a title in front of her name,
> since her doctorate is in physiology, not in a mental health
> field, as she would fraudulently want you to believe)



1. It is public knowledge what kind of degree she has. She is not hiding anything from anyone and never tried to. There is NOTHING fraudulent about it.

2. It's not up to you to decide whether there will be a title to her name or not. She earned the title, she deserves it.

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> > DR. "Laura (I refuse to put a title in front of her name,
>
> > since her doctorate is in physiology, not in a mental
> health
> > field, as she would fraudulently want you to believe)
>
>
>
> 1. It is public knowledge what kind of degree she has. She
> is not hiding anything from anyone and never tried to. There
> is NOTHING fraudulent about it.

Although not fraudulent per se...
I think that Dr. Laura certainly hasn't worked to discourage that misperception. Typically, in most environments in which I have worked with people with professional degrees (PhD, PharmD) they make certain to clarify that they are not physicians if there is any question. Being someone giving this type of advice on the radio and using the word Doctor in your name would suggest to me that the person was a psychologist or psychiatrist. I would expect a person to not use their professional title in such instances if it was not appropriate. If the person using the title "doctor" is working in his or her capacity as trained then it is appropriate, otherwise it tends to be frowned upon (the notable exception being physicians who tend to get a pass). A PhD in pharmacology should not be called Doctor if he is offering love life advice on a radio program- however on something like People's Pharmacy it is appropriate. It is also good to indicate exactly what training the "doctor" has had (along with School attended and/or current employment) at the beginning of a Radio program. The People's Pharmacy does this as did "loveLine" and several other programs If I rememebr correctly. There is a judgement call that has to be made.
 
> DR. "Laura (I refuse to put a title in front of her name,
> since her doctorate is in physiology, not in a mental health
> field, as she would fraudulently want you to believe) is
> being moved to make room for the Ed Schultz show on the Ask!
> channel. Ed Schultz is moving off the newly named Air
> America channel so the full Air America lineup can be
> provided. Ed announced this on his show on 8/22 and said it
> would be effective 9/1."
> http://www.xmfan.com/viewtopic.php?t=47469

Other than the unnecessity of your political diatribe, "Dr. Laura" is among the top shows I listen to on XM. Not because I love her, but the program has a perverse entertainment value to it. I do think Ed Schultz is a talent, but I've listened for awhile and "get the joke" now. He belongs on a separate libtalk channel, and Ask! needs more advice shows, not more buffoons like Tony Snow.
 
> Other than the unnecessity of your political diatribe, "Dr.
> Laura" is among the top shows I listen to on XM. Not because
> I love her, but the program has a perverse entertainment
> value to it. I do think Ed Schultz is a talent, but I've
> listened for awhile and "get the joke" now. He belongs on a
> separate libtalk channel, and Ask! needs more advice shows,
> not more buffoons like Tony Snow.

I see Dr. Laura is trying to re-invent herself with some new TV show and her humble little appearance on Scarborough Country on MSNBC. When your ratings are falling off a cliff, it's no surprise to see the reinvention technique tried. It will be interesting to see if protests start again, but I think she's become so irrelevent her show will likely appear and dissapear like most of the new daytime talk shows the B-list attempts.

Tony Snow's "Snowjob" show is just more of the same from the second tier conservative talk show hosts. It really gets boring after awhile, especially when he uses it to push the Fox Line of the Day, which even the Fox viewers can get from the TV without having to listen to their radio shows.

Snow plays journalist above-the-fray while actually coming to Fox after being a speechwriter for George Bush in the early 90s and a stint at the Moony Washington Times. So he has his Fox street cred down. Currently, Snow is spending most of his time peddling the "intelligent design" nonsense and denying fossils prove evolution. That's a blizzard of bull that even his listeners will debate with him.

Alan Colmes will not end up on the Fox XM channel - that is devoted strictly to carriage of the audio soundtrack of FNC. However, Colmes will either also show up on Ask (or a similar channel) or get dumped. If there is any talk show that is an anathema for AAR fans, it is Alan Colmes.
 
When you go to a doctor because you are sick, do you request to see their credentials? Do you ask what school he/she went to and graduated from? Do you ask to see the diploma? Dr. Laura has a Doctorate...she's not lieing...not even misleading. It is her title. Dr.'s list their titles because they earned it.

Do Click and Clack have degrees in Auto Repair? Does Glenn Haege the Master Handyman have a degree in Home Repair? I don't know...BUT...If Glenn had a PhD in physiology, but was giving home repair ADVICE and used his title..."Dr. Glen Haege", would people feel he wasn't qualified to give that kind of ADVICE because his PhD was in physiology, or maybe biology? No....no one would care. Because he's non-confrontational. EVERYBODY enjoys his show. People bring this up because they don't like her because she's confrontational. It's typical behaviour from people who disagree with what she tells people to do. And it's not a valid arguement. It's nitpicking. You wouldn't make an issue of Love Lines if they didn't have the disclaimer, if you like the show. People rarely call someone to the table when they like them. There is a difference between ADVICE and THERAPY. Dr. Laura gives ADVICE. She has never tried to treat someone on the air and whenever therapy or treatment is necessary, she directs them off the air to qualified professionals near them.


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> When you go to a doctor because you are sick, do you request
> to see their credentials? Do you ask what school he/she went
> to and graduated from? Do you ask to see the diploma? Dr.
> Laura has a Doctorate...she's not lieing...not even
> misleading. It is her title. Dr.'s list their titles because
> they earned it.
>
> Do Click and Clack have degrees in Auto Repair? Does Glenn
> Haege the Master Handyman have a degree in Home Repair? I
> don't know...BUT...If Glenn had a PhD in physiology, but was
> giving home repair ADVICE and used his title..."Dr. Glen
> Haege", would people feel he wasn't qualified to give that
> kind of ADVICE because his PhD was in physiology, or maybe
> biology? No....no one would care. Because he's
> non-confrontational. EVERYBODY enjoys his show. People bring
> this up because they don't like her because she's
> confrontational. It's typical behaviour from people who
> disagree with what she tells people to do. And it's not a
> valid arguement. It's nitpicking. You wouldn't make an issue
> of Love Lines if they didn't have the disclaimer, if you
> like the show. People rarely call someone to the table when
> they like them. There is a difference between ADVICE and
> THERAPY. Dr. Laura gives ADVICE. She has never tried to
> treat someone on the air and whenever therapy or treatment
> is necessary, she directs them off the air to qualified
> professionals near them.

True, radio is show business but I believe most listeners really do care what kind of doctor Laura Schlessinger is when she uses "Dr." in her show's name. The use of "Dr." in her name is misleading, considering her credentials and the kind of radio show (advice program) she does. It's fair to say many listeners mistakenly assume she is a psychologist when she is in fact a physiologist, which is a biologist specializing in physiology; physiology is the biological study of the functions of living organisms and their parts. (The link to the source for my definition of physiologist and physiology is Click here for "Physiologist Laura - controversial advice given by radio talk show host Laura Schlessinger - Brief Article - Editorial" that appeared in the July 2001 issue of Psychology Today.

It would be interesting to hear Dr. Joy Browne's opinion on the use of "Dr." by Laura Schlessinger. Dr. Browne is a licensed clinical psychologist according to <a target="_blank" href=http://www.drjoy.com/about/whois.html>this page</a> on her Web site.
 
> Do Click and Clack have degrees in Auto Repair? Does Glenn
> Haege the Master Handyman have a degree in Home Repair? I
> don't know...BUT...If Glenn had a PhD in physiology, but was
> giving home repair ADVICE and used his title..."Dr. Glen
> Haege", would people feel he wasn't qualified to give that
> kind of ADVICE because his PhD was in physiology, or maybe
> biology? No....no one would care. Because he's
> non-confrontational. EVERYBODY enjoys his show.

Click and Clack run an auto repair business - it's been their life before, during, and probably after their radio show closes down. I have no idea who Glenn Haege is so I can't really say much about the guy, but I will tell you that if this guy called himself Dr. Haege because he earned some doctorate in home repair and then went on the air giving personal advice, I'd have a real problem with that too.

Let's get REAL here for a minute. It would be too-cute-by-half to pretend that the public won't place an assumption of trust in the advice given by someone calling themself "doctor." If the show was about home repair, nobody is going to sit there and wonder what a medical doctor is doing hosting a home repair show - they'll make the assumption his doctorate is either in a different field, or simply not pertinent to his expertise. If Ralph Snodsmith called himself Dr. Snodsmith, we're not going to assume he's a psychologist - we'll think he's probably a botanist. When Dr. Laura runs a show devoted to "solving moral dilemnas and personal problems," we're not going to think she's a botanist or a chemist or a physiology major - we're going to think she's a doctor of psychology, psychotherapy or psychiatry.

Instead, she aimed low with an MFCC degree (and California tightened up the standards for that a few years after she got her degree because too many people with non-aligned coursework were ending up qualified to call themselves MFCC's - now you need a significant number of credits from psychology and psychotherapy courses.)

An honest person would either remove the "Dr." from the "Dr. Laura" personality she invented or would be sure all of her listeners knew up front she is not a psychologist, psychotherapist, or psychiatrist.

> There is a difference between ADVICE and
> THERAPY. Dr. Laura gives ADVICE. She has never tried to
> treat someone on the air and whenever therapy or treatment
> is necessary, she directs them off the air to qualified
> professionals near them.

Anyone who is in a vulnerable position emotionally who is seeking help through a radio talk show already is swimming with the sharks, but those seeking such advice also deserve something a bit better than the petulant attitude this woman gives to people who disagree with her personal (and hypocritical) moral standards. Since God is the only qualified professional she really believes in, and has said that a deity is the first and best source for emotional fulfillment, she's really running a religious show that masquerades as advice. I personally think she's dug her own grave, and her rapidly dwindling numbers demonstrate that, so let the marketplace decide. I do what many others across America do - I don't listen.

If one wants advice from someone who actually has some credentials in the field, Dr. Joy Browne would be a far better choice.
 
"Dr." Laura

>>
> True, radio is show business but I believe most listeners
> really do care what kind of doctor Laura Schlessinger is
> when she uses "Dr." in her show's name. The use of "Dr." in
> her name is misleading, considering her credentials and the
> kind of radio show (advice program) she does. It's fair to
> say many listeners mistakenly assume she is a psychologist
> when she is in fact a physiologist, which is a biologist
> specializing in physiology; physiology is the biological
> study of the functions of living organisms and their parts.

Schlessinger is no longer heard in my area, but when she was I made it a point of asking people who listened to her if they knew what kind of "doctor" she was. They ALL thought she was a psychologist. And if I hadn't been in the radio biz, I would have thought so too. Misleading? Absolutely.
 
> Anyone who is in a vulnerable position emotionally who is
> seeking help through a radio talk show already is swimming
> with the sharks, but those seeking such advice also deserve
> something a bit better than the petulant attitude this woman
> gives to people who disagree with her personal (and
> hypocritical) moral standards.

I was waiting for the hypocritical comment. I'd love to hear why you think she's hypocritical. I would venture to say that every single one of us has been hypocritical in some fashion. Let's hear your logic as to how this plays into her credibility as a talk host.<P ID="signature">______________



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It's about as misleading as a radio station saying they are rated #1 but never fully disclosing the truth of the claim. No harm done...It's up to the customer to know what they are buying...Dr. Laura NEVER claimed to be a psychiatrist/psycologist. Did she take advantage of her degree...yes. No crime in that. We all play up our resumes to impress.<P ID="signature">______________



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She's doing what all other talk hosts are doing..giving opinions. The callers more than likely know what they're in for when they call. As she would even say, she can't make the caller do anything. The single mom who calls is certainly free to continue shacking up(along with her children) with the stud she met two weeks ago but Dr. Laura is going to say its wrong. <P ID="signature">______________
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> I was waiting for the hypocritical comment. I'd love to hear
> why you think she's hypocritical. I would venture to say
> that every single one of us has been hypocritical in some
> fashion. Let's hear your logic as to how this plays into her
> credibility as a talk host.

I don't pretend to be a moral authority, and I doubt you do either. I don't sit here and tell people they are awful for cheating, for not being a stay at home mom, for rejecting "God's plan," or any of the other gems Dr. Laura hollers at her callers.

She does pretend to be a moral authority. Her show, her books, and her website all present the image that she's got the moral authority to straighten people out. She's furiously yelled at women callers who had boyfriends who took nude shots of them in some past relationship, gotten re-married, and are now worried those pictures might surface. A blizzard of "how could you do that" or "are these the values you want your kids to find out about" along with how immature such a person would be for doing that are the result. Then it turns out her naughty pics drop on the desk from some former fling she was having. Oops.

I'll let Slate say it even better:

"On her show, Schlessinger lashes premarital sex, divorce, cohabitation, pregnancy out of wedlock, and pornography, and condemns those who engage in such activities as "sluts," "dummies," and worse. But over the past few years, thanks largely to Vanity Fair and an unauthorized biography, damaging story after damaging story has trickled out about Schlessinger. She's a divorcee. She carried on an affair with a married father and eventually broke up his marriage. Then she lived with him for years before they married. She got pregnant before they married. She posed for nude photographs. She talks nonstop about the importance of honoring parents and family, yet has not spoken to her own mother or sister for 15 years. Her life, in short, is full of the weakness and venality she condemns in her callers. Schlessinger says she's not a hypocrite because all her sins are in the past. A hypocrite is someone who says, "Do as I say, not as I do," she says, but "somebody who says, 'Do as I do, not as I did,' is a teacher."

I'd barely accept her take on it if the woman got "a new attitude" after the revelations were exposed, but only recently in her efforts to come back to television has she toned it down. I say "barely" because I would be wondering if her "new attitude" came as a result of being exposed.
 
So, did you question every moral lesson your parents tried to teach you too? Did you check up on your parents background to make sure they weren't being hypocritical lest it be a lesson less worthy of your time?

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> She's doing what all other talk hosts are doing..giving
> opinions. The callers more than likely know what they're in
> for when they call. As she would even say, she can't make
> the caller do anything. The single mom who calls is
> certainly free to continue shacking up(along with her
> children) with the stud she met two weeks ago but Dr. Laura
> is going to say its wrong.

You and cabradio are exactly right. Along with other "advice shows" like Tom Leykis, listeners realize they are not engaging in a therapy session (which last an hour, not 90 seconds), nor do they have client privelege, etc. Fact is, I could do Dr. Laura's show; one does not need a doctorate to offer advice based on morality, it is only window dressing.

I also love how the elitists point to articles in mainstream psych magazines, but assume the "non-radio public" is too stupid to understand what we geniuses already know.
 
If she can't say "I screwed up" and ask other people not to screw up like she did, then no ex-drug user has any business going on speaking tours to high schools telling kids not to do drugs. Also remeinds me of the constant "you weren't in the military, you have no right to have an opinion on the war" nonsense. Sorry for being un-PC, but Dr. Laura's "ten Stupid Thinsg Women/Men Do to Mess Up Their Lives" are still right on. OK, I'm ready for the tomatoes to be thrown.<P ID="signature">______________
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not to mention that she IS a LMHT, licensed mental health therapist with a master's degree in mental health counseling. she often refers to her former private practice, she was, in fact, a therapist, calling her a Dr is a reference to her PhD... (is it physiology? i thought it was in one of the life sciences)that being said, she makes clear her show is about moral issues, not mental health issues. some in the psych and mental health professions eschew the concept of morality as relevant to one's mental health (ya know, if it feels good to you, do it; you're a victim; its someone else's fault, etc)i have a condition that requires meds and therapy (like many in this biz!) and has resulted in many regrettable behaviors on my part...its still my responsibility to face the consequences of my actions. although i don't always agree with her, Dr. Laura is not only entertaining, but she certanly validates my point of view regarding personal responsibility.

> I also love how the elitists point to articles in mainstream
> psych magazines, but assume the "non-radio public" is too
> stupid to understand what we geniuses already know.
 
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