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BIG NEWS RE: Walton and Johnson

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Tookiebird

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Credible sources say it's a done deal. W&J are being dropped by all cumulus stations including Houston and Dallas. A new team has been signed and the announcement will be made officially in March. Apparently there are contractual obligatoions regarding W&J but once those are expired it's adios to them.

Some high level cumulus people said W&J act was just "Tired" and wanted to bring a better "Quality" of audience.
 
Ron & Jackie... mornings, on Houston's rock station, Rock 103-7. ;D
 
Fine by me since I can stream them from their other stations. Without W&J, who are you guys going to bitch about? Wait, what am I saying? All this board does is whine no matter what station or dj.
 
Great news, if it's true!

Tookiebird said:
Credible sources say it's a done deal. W&J are being dropped by all cumulus stations including Houston and Dallas. A new team has been signed and the announcement will be made officially in March. Apparently there are contractual obligatoions regarding W&J but once those are expired it's adios to them.

I'll cheer when I don't hear them on the air, but that's the best Houston radio news I've heard in 2006. :D ;D :D

Would KIOL actually keep these guys on-air until March, knowing they have been fired and knowing w&j's long history of slamming stations and their management on the air?
Usually radio folks are dismissed so they can't gripe on-air and lobby the listeners to action. :-X
W&j should not be allowed to attack the morning show that would replace them. :-X

Contractural obligations or not, any radio person can be fired and not permitted on-air. I don't know about the specifics of their contract, maybe w&j would just have to be paid through March, whether or not they are allowed to broadcast.
I can't believe they could force a station to keep them on the air so they can attack the new morning show.

This is also the time of year when w&j take a lot of vacation time and inflict their "best of". I swear these guys have more vacation time than the Germans, they must be off about 9 weeks a year.

HD2 said:
Fine by me since I can stream them from their other stations. Without W&J, who are you guys going to bitch about? Wait, what am I saying? All this board does is whine no matter what station or dj.
Spoken like a member of the show. Maybe there is truth in this rumor, because HD2 would be the first to shoot down the rumor if it wasn't true and no one who wants the show to succeed would spread this type of dangerous rumor. 8)
 
What will you do now Emarti? Can you continue with your sad little bed wetting existence without W&J? W&J have been around for two decades and if the Houston station doesn't wish to carry it, I can easily stream them from elsewhere. Congratulations on accomplishing nothing.
 
I hope they re-surface on the Houston radio dial (assuming the initial post is true). I'm a long time listener and enjoy the show. Houston has countless other stations...if you do not like a radio show, please listen to something else. I don't like Chris Baker's show but you will never hear or read me slamming him. I just don't listen.
 
w&j=biggest whiners in radio

HD2 said:
Without W&J, who are you guys going to bitch about? Wait, what am I saying? All this board does is whine no matter what station or dj.

W&j bitch and complain more than any radio people I've ever known. They attack their coworkers and whatever company they work for not long after being hired. W&j's show is a 5 hour whinefest.

HD2 said:
What will you do now Emarti? Can you continue with your sad little bed wetting existence without W&J? W&J have been around for two decades and if the Houston station doesn't wish to carry it, I can easily stream them from elsewhere.

Yeah, they've been burning bridges for 2 decades and now it's really catching up to them.
Got news for you HD2, no one at their Baton Rouge or New Orleans stations wants these guys walking their hallways with their big egos and their massive list of gripes and complaints. The reaction would be something like,"Oh great, you mean that these guys are going to be in the studio down the hall. It'll be 2 weeks before they start attacking the employees of their sister stations on the air." Engineering is dreading their arrival because they'll be blamed by w&j first.

Sales and promotions are so nervous about dealing with those egos that they are already sweating under the armpits more than Gene Hackman in Mississippi Burning. :eek: :( :mad:

I can also assure you that the post Katrina comments that w&j made while laughing at the disaster in Houston will reemerge for public discussion, and not just on this website. :eek:

Easily stream. Most people won't and don't. I'm sure if w&j are allowed back on the air on Cumulus they'll heavily promote that--another reason why they should not be allowed to return to the airwaves live. :-X

HD2 said:
Congratulations on accomplishing nothing.

Nothing? Let's see...Any station owner, GM or PD that wants to pick up w&j will be able to read info that myself and others have posted and consider whether they believe w&j are worth the high salaries, high maintenence, and hard feelings of coworkers and clients at the same station or sister stations, not to mention low ratings. :p
Would a GM or PD want to be considered the w&j version of Stern's Pig Vomit PD and have listeners complaining to the station on behalf of w&j?

Accomplish nothing: the description of w&j's ratings at KLOL, KIOL, and the Bone. :'(
 
Any station owner, GM or PD that wants to pick up w&j will be able to read info that myself and others have posted and consider whether they believe w&j are worth the high salaries, high maintenence, and hard feelings of coworkers and clients at the same station or sister stations, not to mention low ratings.

Sure, keep telling yourself that. Managers and directors hold so much stock in the opinion of a poster who does nothing but complain using third hand information and half truths. For someone who hates the show so much and never listens, you sure consider yourself the authority on them.
 
w&j suck more

HD2 said:
Any station owner, GM or PD that wants to pick up w&j will be able to read info that myself and others have posted and consider whether they believe w&j are worth the high salaries, high maintenence, and hard feelings of coworkers and clients at the same station or sister stations, not to mention low ratings.

Managers and directors hold so much stock in the opinion of a poster who does nothing but complain using third hand information and half truths. For someone who hates the show so much and never listens, you sure consider yourself the authority on them.

Never said I never listen. When I listen, I hate what I hear.
It's not like you know when I listen or for how long.
Like w&j, you can't seem to wrap your little mind around the idea that people/listeners ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO WORSHIP THESE GUYS' INTELLECT OR OPINIONS.

Third hand information and half truths? That would be w&j's political commentary on issues ranging from the war in Iraq to elections. That would also be the spin you put on the w&j show--half truths and third hand information from someone who is an aggressive defender of w&j, a morning show rejected by Houston and Dallas listeners.

If you are really not concerned that managers and directors would believe my posts or the posts of the majority of people on the Dallas and Houston boards, then why worry ???

It's called free speech, free thought, free exchange of ideas and opinions. Anyone is welcome to post here, even the handful of w&j listeners.
They really should change the name of their listeners from the 10%ers to the billionth of 1%ers, even though that's more listeners than they actually have. ;D

Surely, Outlaw Dave, Wendy Miller, Stevens, Pruett and all radio people in Houston will rush to the defense of w&j and tell me I'm wrong. :D
 
HD2 said:
Fine by me since I can stream them from their other stations. Without W&J, who are you guys going to bitch about? Wait, what am I saying? All this board does is whine no matter what station or dj.

[EDIT]...I never complained. I just simply stated what i heard. get off my case.


[EDIT-offensive]
 
Aw, sorry I didn't join in your little gloat party Tookiepie!

Surely, Outlaw Dave, Wendy Miller, Stevens, Pruett and all radio people in Houston will rush to the defense of w&j and tell me I'm wrong.

Wendy Miller once stated she is unable to discuss the details her job, but Pruett and Shannon have supported W&J. Pruett has said many times that he enjoys the show and invests in it by purchasing ad time.

You grasp at these straws and repeat the same misinformation for your pointless little crusade. You don't like W&J because you're a far left whiner. But if you actually knew what you were talking about, you'd know that W&J have been critical of the war and the administration. They don't agree with everything, but still support the troops and promote soldiersangels.org. Your gripes about their kids are laughable. Johnson's are not old enough. Walton's are still in school and the third was dying of cancer.

W&J never laughed at Katrina. They lived in NO for years and had friends stay with them through it. They slammed the local and state government but never mocked what happened.

How do you know they're hated everywhere they go? You don't know that. Most of your claims are second guesses and faulty info. There's a difference between listening to someone else's opinion and listening to rants someone's pulling out of their rear end.
 
w&j are fossils

HD2 said:
Surely, Outlaw Dave, Wendy Miller, Stevens, Pruett and all radio people in Houston will rush to the defense of w&j and tell me I'm wrong.

if you actually knew what you were talking about, you'd know that W&J have been critical of the war and the administration.
Bullcrap! They supported the war from day one giving uninformed opinions ever since. Conservative Republicans have also been "critical of the war". They still support staying in Iraq. W&j openly endorsed this administration in the last two elections. Anyone who disagrees with them is called a far left communist.
I'm not surprised those morons are doing what many Republicans are doing--putting distance between themselves and this President and backtracking--that's what people do when they are wrong, fool. :p
HD2 said:
Your gripes about their kids are laughable. Johnson's are not old enough. Walton's are still in school
Still in school? You mean university? Are they ever going to graduate? Let me guess, they inherited their father's intellect. :D
If Johnson's are teens, they can make a commitment to the ROTC and join immediately after graduation.
HD2 said:
W&J never laughed at Katrina. They lived in NO for years and had friends stay with them through it. They slammed the local and state government but never mocked what happened.
There you go, fool. They didn't slam the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT WAS OCCUPIED BY A REPUBLICAN.
They didn't dare want to criticize any actions of Republicans during this time, ONLY DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS.
They slammed Nagin and Blanco who they have slammed repeatedly since their elections long before Katrina because they are Democrats. They've called Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco a dumb woman numerous times, long before Katrina, only because she was affiliated with the Democratic party. W&j's politics are very simple: Republican=good, Democrats=communists trying to destroy America.

Rod Ryan did more for Katrina victims than w&j. W&j's only contribution was to offer their advice from Houston, leave backward, politically corrupt Louisiana and come move to Houston where they can have more Louisiana listeners fill out diaries for the w&j show. In other words, they only had selfish motives for wanting Louisiana residents to move to Texas--more Houstonians with high w&j name recognition.
They made plenty of low class tasteless comments about Katrina victims and the destruction.
Their buddy Boysie Bollinger, a big George W. Bush supporter and vocal w&j fan told the BBC last summer he prefers the new demographics in New Orleans without the blacks and will focus on hiring workers from Mexico and Eastern Europe. W&j like to cater their comments to wealthy local Republicans like Boysie Bollinger and ridicule anyone with a differing view.

HD2 said:
How do you know they're hated everywhere they go? You don't know that. Most of your claims are second guesses and faulty info.

Wrong! Guess what? I worked at Clear Channel Houston the same time they did and I've been in radio along the Gulf Coast as long as w&j, if not longer. I know people who have worked with w&j from the New Orleans days of Q93, B97, 92.3 and WRNO. Some of these people I call friends. I've had more than one lunch with people like Tom Kennedy and I had a nice long conversation some time ago with someone called Marc Koppelman. Have you heard of these people? W&j have reputations that preceed them; I guess you can't understand that.
I'll tell you what else, I know some of the people that they've trashed for no reason over the years. They've trashed people in other dayparts on the stations they've worked for. Some of those people were talented individuals with great voices and skills and the ability to create network quality spots and promos. They didn't have the old dried up voice like walton.
Simply, they just act like they don't like anyone else at the radio station. They want worship and red carpet treatment at all times.
In Houston they've proven NOTHING in the ratings. I'm sure they have plenty of scapegoats.

Over the years I have talked to many of the on-air people that have worked at the same stations as w&j. You'd be surprised how much info you can get from people when you buy them lunch.
If w&j were to see my face, they would know who I am, same with Outlaw Dave, Wendy and many, many others that have worked with w&j over the years at many stations.
smashedcd said:
well it could have been worse..butts and tucker in the morning.. ;D

Well, I'll just say that Butz&Tucker were about one notch better than w&j, but that's not saying much! :D

You have provided another example of what I was talking about. W&j have called Tommy Tucker the bald headed cross-eyed knome and have made hateful and mean comments about him. So now if they have to go back to Entercom New Orleans, they'll have to share the coffee pot and Tucker will have to resist the temptation to break it on their bald heads covered with Astroturf or whatever polymer hairplants w&j have had. You know Tucker would do it and most of the building would applaud.
HD2 said:
They lived in NO for years
No, walton lived in Kenner, Louisiana, about 15 miles West of the city--a burb of a burb;
johnson lived on the "Northshore" in Mandeville, Louisiana, about 40 miles north of New Orleans.
Would you care to have their old phone numbers?

HD2, I don't care what paranoid labels you want to call my posts--crusade, crucifixion, conspiracy.
Like Tommy Lee Jones said in The Fugitive, "I don't care!". 8)

Now shouldn't you be getting some nappy time so you're not too cranky running the board Monday, unless they've already locked you out of the building. :mad: :'(
 
Bullcrap! They supported the war from day one giving uninformed opinions ever since.

Wrong again! Listen to the show. They often discuss the mistake made from both sides. But you won't do that because it might shake the image you've made for yourself. I don't know why you keep harping on their kids serving. Stop taking your sad tactics from Michael Moore movies. It has nothing to do with the show and if they choose to serve it's their choice.

They didn't slam the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT WAS OCCUPIED BY A REPUBLICAN.

Oh, yet another incorrect point. They slammed the local government because *gasp* it was the local goverment's fault! So sorry to break this to you, but Democrats make mistakes and George Bush isn't the cause of every problem. Gross mismanagment at the local and state level with Lousisana's long history of corrupt politics cause Katrina. Not Republicans.

Love your grasp at where they lived in Louisiana. Hilarious! Cypress, Sugarland, Friendswood, Kingwood, Spring, it's all pretty much Houston.

Rod Ryan did more for Katrina victims than w&j.

Rod Ryan did what he was told complete with fake sympathy. KIOL also had fund raisers.

I worked at Clear Channel Houston the same time they did and I've been in radio along the Gulf Coast as long as w&j, if not longer.

Doing what? Mail? Clerical work? Probably fetching coffee. You know all those people and buy them lunch just for W&J gossip, sure. You say don't care, but you take the bait to BS your way out every time. Keep making false claims and dropping names. Nobody's backing them up. You say they slam these people on air, but I listen from 5:30-10 and have never heard a single one. Thanks for playing. Try again.
 
HD2 said:
They didn't slam the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT WAS OCCUPIED BY A REPUBLICAN.

Oh, yet another incorrect point. They slammed the local government because *gasp* it was the local goverment's fault! So sorry to break this to you, but Democrats make mistakes and George Bush isn't the cause of every problem. Gross mismanagment at the local and state level with Lousisana's long history of corrupt politics cause Katrina. Not Republicans.

Love your grasp at where they lived in Louisiana. Hilarious! Cypress, Sugarland, Friendswood, Kingwood, Spring, it's all pretty much Houston.


Yes HD2--You are correct. I was a resident of Metairie during Katrina...(3 miles from New Orleans for those unfamiliar and are still reading this pathetic thread) The local response was completely botched. Was it George W. Bush that turned off the pumps in Jefferson parish and caused my place to have 2.5 feet of water in it purely from rain water? NO. It was Parish President Aaron Broussard and did W&J ever have some fun with him. He completely deserved it. What about the fake outburst of tears on national tv? C'mon...the locals completely screwed everything up. I was there to work and repair my residence until January. I was back the very same day they allowed people to live there. There were limited grocery stores open, all for not more than 4-6 hours per day initially. Trust me...I know exactly how things were. For those not living in southeast LA at the time, this conversation regarding Katrina politics is over. Furthermore, no one can tell me more money is needed...what is needed is for people to get off their asses and do something. The only issue with money there is insurance companies trying to screw people. Last time I checked, piles of cash alone didn't have the ability rebuild anything. Just ask "Cold Cash (William) Jefferson" All they built for him is controversy. People are so suspecting of the Federal Government screwing them that they re-elected someone who was illegedly involved in scandal and the person with only 10% of the marked bills was convicted while the one with 90% in the freezer wasn't? People have sure been brainwashed regarding the ethics of the "local government" officials. By the way--I live in "the burbs".
 
HD2 said:
Aw, sorry I didn't join in your little gloat party Tookiepie!

Surely, Outlaw Dave, Wendy Miller, Stevens, Pruett and all radio people in Houston will rush to the defense of w&j and tell me I'm wrong.

Wendy Miller once stated she is unable to discuss the details her job, but Pruett and Shannon have supported W&J. Pruett has said many times that he enjoys the show and invests in it by purchasing ad time.

You grasp at these straws and repeat the same misinformation for your pointless little crusade. You don't like W&J because you're a far left whiner. But if you actually knew what you were talking about, you'd know that W&J have been critical of the war and the administration. They don't agree with everything, but still support the troops and promote soldiersangels.org. Your gripes about their kids are laughable. Johnson's are not old enough. Walton's are still in school and the third was dying of cancer.

W&J never laughed at Katrina. They lived in NO for years and had friends stay with them through it. They slammed the local and state government but never mocked what happened.

How do you know they're hated everywhere they go? You don't know that. Most of your claims are second guesses and faulty info. There's a difference between listening to someone else's opinion and listening to rants someone's pulling out of their rear end.

HD:

I'm a conservative and could care less whether W&J are right wingers. Like Cumulus and many others i think they're Old Tired, Out of Date, Marginal Talents. What do you expect Pruett to say? He's a hasbeen too. The truth hurts don't it bro. ;)
 
Do you think Cumulus is going to pull the plug on The Bone in Dallas?
 
w&j are total and complete failures in Houston and Dallas

HD2 said:
Bullcrap! They supported the war from day one giving uninformed opinions ever since.

They didn't slam the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT WAS OCCUPIED BY A REPUBLICAN.

Oh, yet another incorrect point. They slammed the local government because *gasp* it was the local goverment's fault! So sorry to break this to you, but Democrats make mistakes and George Bush isn't the cause of every problem. Gross mismanagment at the local and state level with Lousisana's long history of corrupt politics cause Katrina. Not Republicans.

Again, you've proven me right. Democrats make mistakes and George Bush isn't the cause of every problem.
You don't even acknowledge (like w&j) the slightest fault by the GOP in any capacity.
You don't know anything about me--I vote for Republican candidates about 50% of the time, but just like wj, anyone that has a slightly differing view is labeled a commie bed wetter--a line created by Don Imus, not jonwalton.
Tookiebird said:
HD:

I'm a conservative and could care less whether W&J are right wingers. Like Cumulus and many others i think they're Old Tired, Out of Date, Marginal Talents. What do you expect Pruett to say? He's a hasbeen too. The truth hurts don't it bro. ;)
HD2 said:
Love your grasp at where they lived in Louisiana. Hilarious! Cypress, Sugarland, Friendswood, Kingwood, Spring, it's all pretty much Houston.
Tookiebird said:
HD2 said:
They lived in NO for years
Chateau Estates subdivision is located in Kenner, La a burb on the other side of the burb of Metairie. It is not considered part of the city of New Orleans, just ask the mayor and local business owners.
Mandeville, in the Florida parishes, is not considered remotely part of New Orleans. Try to be more accurate in future.
HD2 said:
Rod Ryan did more for Katrina victims than w&j.

Rod Ryan did what he was told complete with fake sympathy. KIOL also had fund raisers.
Again, you've made my point and proven me right. KIOL had fund raisers not walton&johnson. w&j did NOTHING!
I don't even like Rodryan's show, but at least he raised money.

You say Rod Ryan's Katrina fundraising effort was with fake sympathy. I won't argue that point with you, but maybe some people at Clear Channel might.
HD2 said:
I worked at Clear Channel Houston the same time they did and I've been in radio along the Gulf Coast as long as w&j, if not longer.

Doing what? Mail? Clerical work? Probably fetching coffee. You know all those people and buy them lunch just for W&J gossip, sure. You say don't care, but you take the bait to BS your way out every time. Keep making false claims and dropping names. Nobody's backing them up. You say they slam these people on air, but I listen from 5:30-10 and have never heard a single one. Thanks for playing. Try again.
Wouldn't you just love to know?! Wanna know my name?--Get a lawyer.
I never said when I did lunch with people that we ONLY talked about walton&johnson. That's another point of mine you've twisted around to spin w&j.
Nobody is required to post here and back up my posts. I don't see Pruett or Outlaw Dave or anyone else in town backing you up, just StevenNewOrleans who is like the guy fired after Katrina because he raged on WWL on a caller about being lazy and waiting for government handouts or something.
StevenNOLA said:
Yes HD2--You are correct. I was a resident of Metairie during Katrina...(3 miles from New Orleans for those unfamiliar and are still reading this pathetic thread) The local response was completely botched. Was it George W. Bush that turned off the pumps in Jefferson parish and caused my place to have 2.5 feet of water in it purely from rain water? NO. It was Parish President Aaron Broussard and did W&J ever have some fun with him. He completely deserved it. What about the fake outburst of tears on national tv? C'mon...the locals completely screwed everything up. I was there to work and repair my residence until January. I was back the very same day they allowed people to live there. There were limited grocery stores open, all for not more than 4-6 hours per day initially. Trust me...I know exactly how things were. For those not living in southeast LA at the time, this conversation regarding Katrina politics is over. Furthermore, no one can tell me more money is needed...what is needed is for people to get off their asses and do something. The only issue with money there is insurance companies trying to screw people. Last time I checked, piles of cash alone didn't have the ability rebuild anything. Just ask "Cold Cash (William) Jefferson" All they built for him is controversy. People are so suspecting of the Federal Government screwing them that they re-elected someone who was illegedly involved in scandal and the person with only 10% of the marked bills was convicted while the one with 90% in the freezer wasn't? People have sure been brainwashed regarding the ethics of the "local government" officials. By the way--I live in "the burbs".
No doubt the reelection of William Jefferson (money in the freezer) was shameful and stupid on the part of voters. It's part of the "Long" history of corrupt politics in Louisiana that has kept La at the bottom of every good list like education.
Louisiana citizens are not as educated as people in Texas which is why low class humor and name calling do better in Louisiana. Most of the people from Louisiana that wear LSU garb 24/7 have never been to any college--like stevejohnson.

Like the above post says w&j were laughing at Aaron Broussard, having fun with him and questioning the sincerety
of his tears on Meet The Press a week after Katrina hit. If Aaron Broussard were a Republican and behaved in exactly the same way, w&j would have defended him.

If it were allowed I would post documents to support what I've said about w&j, like this memo I have sent by johnwalton to every employee at the New Orleans cluster. Walton got his wallet stolen at work (so he said) and sent a memo to all employees saying that he has a friend who works for the Louisiana State Police that will begin conducting background checks on all employees of the company in New Orleans (on behalf of walton). :mad:

HD2, you are the one being baited into keeping this topic alive. :D
 
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