It's kind of puzzling to me that both Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller aren't even carried in some big markets like New York City, yet I was surprised to find a few conservative favorites are missing in NYC as well in other big markets too. Wouldn't they try more actively to land a station in a big market for more listeners?
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Big Talkers missing in big markets?
- Thread starter dustintv
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There's only so many stations in one market, and only so much time to fill. Can't squeeze em all in.
dustintv said:
It's pretty ironic that Glenn Beck is in virtually all the top markets but New York City, yet that's where he's been doing both his radio and TV shows for the past couple years. The top 5 markets usually offer a bigger percentage of local talkers, it seems. If Beck were to go to WABC, that would make its entire lineup completely syndicated. Meanwhile, WOR sticks by its seasoned veteran Joan Hamburg with meager ratings, but it must still bill well.
Not much special about many of those legendary major stations at this point. Few have any real, unique identity anymore. Every city has Sean, Walmart, Rush, Applebees, Glenn Beck, Starbucks.
The PROBLEM with this scenario, is that Walmart, Applebees and Starbucks will likely never retire and need to be replaced. On the other hand, all these syndicated names WILL eventually retire, and where are all those replacements going to come from?
The vast farm system in radio that allowed a massive amount of talent to grow over many years, has been gutted. Consolidation and reliance on syndication has done to radio what would be akin to salting the earth after harvesting a crop.
Wall Street's demands have caused companies to raid the fields while salting the earth. They have exploited that farm system that produced generations of legendary personalities, for the sake of immediate profits without any concern for the long-term interests of the business or the people in it.
Bill Clinton is an @sshole.
The PROBLEM with this scenario, is that Walmart, Applebees and Starbucks will likely never retire and need to be replaced. On the other hand, all these syndicated names WILL eventually retire, and where are all those replacements going to come from?
The vast farm system in radio that allowed a massive amount of talent to grow over many years, has been gutted. Consolidation and reliance on syndication has done to radio what would be akin to salting the earth after harvesting a crop.
Wall Street's demands have caused companies to raid the fields while salting the earth. They have exploited that farm system that produced generations of legendary personalities, for the sake of immediate profits without any concern for the long-term interests of the business or the people in it.
Bill Clinton is an @sshole.
Bill Clinton was always triangulating, but there's plenty of bipartisan blame. The real battle for consolidation was fought and won by Republicans in Congress -- heavily lobbied by the NAB and some fellow named Mays. Clinton was presented with a fait accompli -- veto the bill and throw out a lot of other babies with the bath water.
smedge2006 said:
Let's not forget their are lots of discretionary details in these bills. It is up to congress and the administration to ensure that they get done but often they don't- especially when a new administration takes over. Same thing happened in NAFTA. There were tons of promises of retraining workers, help bringing in new businesses when old economy jobs were lost. But it never got done.
The PROBLEM with this scenario, is that Walmart, Applebees and Starbucks will likely never retire and need to be replaced. On the other hand, all these syndicated names WILL eventually retire, and where are all those replacements going to come from?
The vast farm system in radio that allowed a massive amount of talent to grow over many years, has been gutted. Consolidation and reliance on syndication has done to radio what would be akin to salting the earth after harvesting a crop.
The retirements may be farther away than one thinks. Look at some of the guys who have held on to their communication-related jobs like a Pope. G. Gordon Liddy is past 70 and still on, Bruce Williams mid-70's and still putting out a show, Bob Grant starting up again at WABC, and Don Imus at the same place mornings. They are going for records like TV stars Bob Barkerm just retired at 83, Mike Wallace in his 80's and still puttering around, and Kitty Carlisle who did To Tell The Truth as a regular in 1990 at the ager of 80, flying coast to coast to tape the daily half hour shows. The age problem, and lack of farm system is also noticeable in pro wrestling fo rwhat it's worth. Guys in their late 30's and early 40's are in starring roles. Some older than that are being prominent weekly roles as well. There is no regional system from which to hunt talent in the late teens and twenties any more.
The vast farm system in radio that allowed a massive amount of talent to grow over many years, has been gutted. Consolidation and reliance on syndication has done to radio what would be akin to salting the earth after harvesting a crop.
The retirements may be farther away than one thinks. Look at some of the guys who have held on to their communication-related jobs like a Pope. G. Gordon Liddy is past 70 and still on, Bruce Williams mid-70's and still putting out a show, Bob Grant starting up again at WABC, and Don Imus at the same place mornings. They are going for records like TV stars Bob Barkerm just retired at 83, Mike Wallace in his 80's and still puttering around, and Kitty Carlisle who did To Tell The Truth as a regular in 1990 at the ager of 80, flying coast to coast to tape the daily half hour shows. The age problem, and lack of farm system is also noticeable in pro wrestling fo rwhat it's worth. Guys in their late 30's and early 40's are in starring roles. Some older than that are being prominent weekly roles as well. There is no regional system from which to hunt talent in the late teens and twenties any more.
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