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Biggest Year in Atlanta Radio Ever?

It's only Feb 21 and so far:

An Atlanta radio institution has folded.
A top-40 station moved frequency.
A top-rated team returned after two years for a third try.
A highly-rated duo announced they are coming back after faking us out with an "illness."
A new morning host started with much fanfare and little else.
A sports station totally re-vamped their line-up.

What else can happen that will that can trump the past 50 days? (besides my certain accession to PD at 929 Radio Atlanta)
Will Rodney Ho need to hire an assistant?
 
Neil Millman said:
It's only Feb 21 and so far:

An Atlanta radio institution has folded.
A top-40 station moved frequency.
A top-rated team returned after two years for a third try.
A highly-rated duo announced they are coming back after faking us out with an "illness."
A new morning host started with much fanfare and little else.
A sports station totally re-vamped their line-up.

What else can happen that will that can trump the past 50 days? (besides my certain accession to PD at 929 Radio Atlanta)
Will Rodney Ho need to hire an assistant?
Neil Millman said:
It's only Feb 21 and so far:

An Atlanta radio institution has folded.
A top-40 station moved frequency.
A top-rated team returned after two years for a third try.
A highly-rated duo announced they are coming back after faking us out with an "illness."
A new morning host started with much fanfare and little else.
A sports station totally re-vamped their line-up.

What else can happen that will that can trump the past 50 days? (besides my certain accession to PD at 929 Radio Atlanta)
Will Rodney Ho need to hire an assistant?


Hmm what else could happen???

On November 1st Dave FM Mysteriously start teasing "He's Coming To Town- Listen Live November 10th at 6:00 a.m." Zakk Tyler is mysteriously on vacation at that point. 6 a.m. Nov. 10th they play Bruce Springsteen's "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town." Dave starts stunting with no jocks, only Christmas music and simply refers to itself as 92.9 FM WZGC Atlanta. Somteime after Christmas the moniker Z93 appears and the announcement that Toucher and Rich are taking over the morning shift wiith Sweet Baby Jane doing traffic and handling the deli meats.
Z93 showing they can never get things right decide to pick-up where Rock 100.5 began and go after the same demo but relying on less classic Rock and primarily focusing on the 90's Rock and Beyond.

WGST does not appear in the Spring Book. Kimmer returns t the air 3 - 7 pm in time for election season.

After a string of bad books, The Zone interestingly enough adds a recently divorced Matt Chernoff back to their midday line-up. The ex-wives of Cellini, Oliver and Chernoff sue Steak and Salsa for hiding assets in a divorce proceeding. Eventually Oliver and Chernoff's ex-wives win a settlement against Big Leagus Broudcasting for a pattern of taking divorcing men off the air to assist in lowering their alimony paayments and then hiring back once the divorce is settled.

WSB 750 DOES NOT see a Fall bump during election season and shuffles the line-up dropping CSean Hannity and adding the Bottom Line with Dimino and Cellini to afternoon drive.

Giant Brian has a meltdown on the air over lack of support and quits on air only 5 people hear they acual meltdown. 5 years later a half million people claim they were listening when Giant Brian had his historic meltdown.

100.5 cracks a 3.0 12+ number. Something Bert and the Qties could never do.

WGKA adds local programming during sunlight hours.


Here is what won't happen:

Barnes will not return to the Atlanta airwaves(Please don't sue me it is only a prognostication)

Nor will Jimmy, Tom Hughes, Leslie or Steve Craig.

Neil Millman will not become a program director at Z93.(I need one safe bet)

Star 94 will not fire their morning show.

The Regular Guys will not get fired.
 
Stuff that could happen, but probably won't:

--Cox buys 107.1 and puts alternative on 106.1 and 107.1. Sales weasels go nuts trying to put spots for Clemson businesses against spots for Athens businesses and ATL businesses on 106.1.
--Dickey buys the Zone and uses it as a backup signal for The Fan for conflicting games. They bring back Quixie (oldies) when there's not a game on.
--Weber buys WGUN and puts some obscure format on it, and manages to get all manner of ink but no share.
--Cox changes 95.5 to mainstream (not rhythmic) CHR and stomps Star 94 in tandem with WWWQ.
--Rock 100.5 gets a 4+ share.
--Cumulus buys 94.1 and moves Rock 100.5 to it, with the retro tagline "94QRock" and the old WQXI calls. Arbitron and Cumulus sales weasels go crazy trying to distinguish between the new 94Q and what will then be Q99.7. Either way, Cumulus gets the share.
--99X returns to the air at 100.5 (tagline X100.5), but with an all-new staff. Calls stay the same (WNNX) but the on-air staff goes crazy explaining them after people make a joke of it, like asking Skip Caray to explain the infield fly rule or the "nutgrinder".
--WGST goes Latino (and gets a 3 share!). Rush gets relegated to 920 or WALR/WFOM.
--Radio-info.com finally figures out that doo-w0p is not a dirty word.

Stuff I would personally love to see happen:
--Cox puts The Point (80s) on 95.5.
--Cox dumps UGA on 106.1 for Ga. Tech, or makes WDUN drop UGA for Tech.
--CC puts The Legend (classic country) on 94.9.
 
littlejohn said:
I'd be interested in knowing how Cox could make WDUN do anything they didn't want to do.

I don't know if the UGA athletic association has any territorial exclusivity in their radio contracts; it appears that they don't, although I'm not sure why; it seems like there's a lot of overlap among WSB, WDUN, WNGC, and WZGA in coverage of UGA sports. With Cox only owning WSB, they'd probably let WDUN and WNGC slide, as there's not as much overlap (WZGA isn't big enough to worry about unless they want to be a stickler about it). With Cox now owning WSB and WNGC, the increased overlap with WDUN probably becomes more of an issue.

Heck, Cox and ISP (who syndicates Tech's games) could probably band together to pay out WDUN to drop UGA and pick up Tech, giving Tech a powerful affiliate, ISP's advertisers more coverage (and ISP more money), Cox one less competitor on gameday, and WDUN more money than UGA is paying them to carry the games. Surely UGA's syndicator is aware of this; I don't know why they would pay more money for redundant coverage. The only way I see these stations coming out ahead with these current redundancies is if there's some kind of revenue-sharing agreement, but if Cox owned two of them, surely they'd like to grab a competitor's share.

I'm not privy to the actual numbers involved, but I would think Cox would like to do away with the overlap.
 
Let me suggest to you that the stations which carry UGA games pay for the privlege of carrying them. P'raps in some instaces by barter, and in some via yankee dollars, both are common in the business. I've no idea which or how much as far as UGA is concerned, but I believe that the stations are paying the U (via the syndicator), not the other way around.
Let me then suggest you rethink your post from that position. Some of the points are relevant, I don';t think some of the others are (though they might well be if the moiney was flowing the other way)
 
RTibbs said:
Neil Millman said:
Hmm what else could happen???





Here is what won't happen:


Nor will Jimmy, Tom Hughes, Leslie or Steve Craig.

Neil Millman will not become a program director at Z93.(I need one safe bet)

Star 94 will not fire their morning show.

The Regular Guys will not get fired.

tibbs thats the most depressng prediction ive ever hear.

i like jabbas better
--Cox buys 107.1 and puts alternative on 106.1 and 107.1. Sales weasels go nuts trying to put spots for Clemson businesses against spots for Athens businesses and ATL businesses on 106.1.
--99X returns to the air at 100.5 (tagline X100.5), but with an all-new staff. Calls stay the same (WNNX) but the on-air staff goes crazy explaining them after people make a joke of it,
 
littlejohn said:
Let me suggest to you that the stations which carry UGA games pay for the privlege of carrying them. P'raps in some instaces by barter, and in some via yankee dollars, both are common in the business. I've no idea which or how much as far as UGA is concerned, but I believe that the stations are paying the U (via the syndicator), not the other way around.
Let me then suggest you rethink your post from that position. Some of the points are relevant, I don';t think some of the others are (though they might well be if the moiney was flowing the other way)

Very well put, Littlejohn. Yes, there are several overlaps on gamedays when it comes to UGA football, but apparently Cox doesn't mind or it wouldn't be the case. I don't think they're going to start turning down opportunities for revenue...particularly the scads and scads of money to be made from the Dawgs, for both Cox and the affiliates.

Jabba, you sound like a Tech fan with wishful thinking. ;D

Here's what WON'T happen:
- Cox pulling UGA football from WNGC, and you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
- The Morning Mess getting fired. You guys cite the "Seinfeld" model (let a show get its feet for a while) and then throw it out the window the first chance you get. Pick a side.
- WGST returning to its former glory. Time for an overhaul there, in the worst way.
- An oldies station returning to Atlanta, as cool as that may seem
- Any more major changes at Cumulus

What if:
- WGST blown up, flips to oldies in mono and re-hires Spiff; WSB replaces Re-Boortz with Savage, moves Hannity to Savage's slot, and airs Rush in afternoon drive. ;D
- CC moves "Legends" format to the Bull and keeps Cledus & Co. in the mornings; Braves move to one of the all-sports stations after the contract runs out
- KISS 104 re-formatted to take on V-103
- A major FM flips to take on the Fish
 
ClarkKent said:
littlejohn said:
Let me suggest to you that the stations which carry UGA games pay for the privlege of carrying them. P'raps in some instaces by barter, and in some via yankee dollars, both are common in the business. I've no idea which or how much as far as UGA is concerned, but I believe that the stations are paying the U (via the syndicator), not the other way around.
Let me then suggest you rethink your post from that position. Some of the points are relevant, I don';t think some of the others are (though they might well be if the moiney was flowing the other way)

Very well put, Littlejohn. Yes, there are several overlaps on gamedays when it comes to UGA football, but apparently Cox doesn't mind or it wouldn't be the case. I don't think they're going to start turning down opportunities for revenue...particularly the scads and scads of money to be made from the Dawgs, for both Cox and the affiliates.

Jabba, you sound like a Tech fan with wishful thinking. ;D

What if:
- WGST blown up, flips to oldies in mono and re-hires Spiff; WSB replaces Re-Boortz with Savage, moves Hannity to Savage's slot, and airs Rush in afternoon drive. ;D
- CC moves "Legends" format to the Bull and keeps Cledus & Co. in the mornings; Braves move to one of the all-sports stations after the contract runs out
- KISS 104 re-formatted to take on V-103
- A major FM flips to take on the Fish

Re: college sports, I don't know who is paying whom (the station or the syndicator). I know that various networked programming is bought by stations and other programming is paid placement. I would guess that whoever is selling most of the ads pays the other party. But some of this just doesn't make sense to me....

Yes, I am a Tech fan :p with wishful thinking (go check out the recent 790 thread for some other discussion on this subject). I don't listen to UGA games, even though listening to Munson is a treat (as was Al Ciraldo), so I don't know how many ads are local vs. network.

However, if the local station is selling most of the spots, and thus paying the syndicator, that seems like it would give the station some leverage (or at least incentive) at trying to get some exclusivity so they can get more for their spots (particularly a big station like WSB/Cox), even if they have to pay part of that increase back for the privilege of exclusivity. At the other extreme, why would WZGA pay to carry UGA games when someone can tune up the dial to WNGC and get the same game coverage with a much better signal? I don't see what's in it for WZGA, unless they can pay a dirt cheap rate because they're so small, and even then....

There's a lot of non-overlapping territory between WSB and WDUN/WNGC. But WDUN and WNGC have almost the same footprint during the day, and WDUN's night coverage area is smaller than WNGC's. If there's "pull" to be had, there would be a LOT more of it with Cox owning WSB and WNGC instead of just WSB. Is WSB going to get rid of UGA? Of course not. But there's still room to negotiate. Cox doesn't want to pay a penny more than they have to, assuming they're the ones paying. I'm sure UGA's syndicator would listen to Cox a lot more than they would to WDUN.

Regardless of the "scads and scads" of money to be made, I am sure that Cox would like to keep it all to themselves and not share it any more than they have to.

On to other subjects...

--WSB is already airing Savage in the old ReBoortz slot (10p-1a)
--If WSB picks up Rush, a more likely solution would be to 86 Boortz's Information Overload Hour and have Rush on at his live time slot (n-3), and then have Clark or Hannity for PM drive, and the other one from 6-9.
--The Braves could move to WCNN; they probably wouldn't move to WQXI. They won't move to either without an FM deal on a 100kW signal (NOT 100.5!). That would be hard for Cumulus/Dickey to stomach, and only marginally easier for Lincoln. Putting sports on a CHR station doesn't make much sense.
--The Bull becoming Legends is likely if Legends gets traction at 96.7. If Bull continues to pull a weak third, CC may try it anyway.
--Cox won't try to position 104.1 to compete with V-103. Been there, done that. Remember AURA (Atlanta Urban Radio Alliance) between Cox and Dickey, back when Dickey owned 104.7? They tried to gang up on V-103. It didn't work then and sure won't work now. Cox is doing OK (actually darn good) with urban AC on a move-in signal. No point in messing that up.
--I don't think that anyone would want to take on The Fish. The ConChr market is not that big (heck, Fish only gets a 3+ share). There's also other ConChr stations like WWEV (91.5) and Love 86. Salem is very good at what they do.
 
My predictions....

- 1160 picks up the Braves contract, gets a slogan, "The Birds and the Braves".
- 790 is allowed to go full power at night, but has to drop power after installing a new ground transmission system that sends the tower blazing with fire like a Roman Candle. Cause is determined later to be gophers tunneling in from the construction project next door.
- Alan Sneed buys WKLS, flips it to Spanish
- Cumulus buys what remains of Clear Channel after the failed private equity takeover, has to sell Q100 to meet FCC market caps.
- Jeff Hullinger offered chance to host the Price is Right after Drew gets sidlined by a heckler that looks like Mimi giving him a noogie while in a headlock.
- Steve and Vikki gain a 20 share in their daypart
- Leslie Fram teams with Ralph from Ben Hill to host a new call-in show on WNGC HD2.
- 880 in Athens gets drowned out at night by WCBS-AM and someone complains.
 
Here's what will really happen:

-On June 1, Vikki announces she isn't feeling well and won't be joining B98.5 after all.
-Radio-Info posters say it's a scam; B98.5 didn't want her but was pressured by Steve to take her.
-Steve joins B98.5 with his new partner, Leslie Fram.
-A couple of months later, Vikki joins Eagle 106.7 becoming Rhubarb Jones' new partner.
-Producer Mark from 99X joins the Steve & Leslie morning show using his former Q100 alias of Phil Teranna.
 
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