From Cleveland, Ohio. I remember listening through some static to the Buffalo Bills - Houston Oilers game, you know, the one in which the Bills were down - what was it - 35 to 0 and the mighty Bills came back to win 38-35. I only heard the second half which began as the first half ended, with another Houston touchdown. Then it was all Bills. I remember hearing a Houston player (quarterback?) saying, "We just choked." The Houston head coach lost his job, didn't he? I don't remember specific plays, but there must have been a lot of 3 and outs for the Oilers in the second half. How many fumbles, interceptions and sacks did the Bills take advantage of? What happened in the first half for the Bills to dig themselves such a hole?
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The Bills couldn't win a Superbowl, but their comeback against the Houston Oilers was a game and family event that I will long cherish. "The Comeback," January 3rd 1993 is one of the greatest memories I'll have as a Bills fan and a member of the WGR/97 Rock Bills production team.
The game was a seminal event on many levels. I was at the game with my sons, now adults. Like most fans, when the Bills were down 28-3 at halftime, we thought about leaving. But we decided to stay. "The parking lot will be jammed with people trying to get out of here, let's wait." It was a pretty decent day. Temperature in the 40s. Pleasant for early January, especially by Buffalo standards.
Minutes into the third quarter, the Oilers picked off a Frank Reich pass and made the score 35-3. Things looked grim. We packed up our seat pads and talked to the few remaining fans in our section. We were dressed warmly, and there was no urgent need to leave, so we took our time. I remarked, "Warren Moon's played a helluva game, he's a decent guy, I guess this is their year." My oldest son said, "let's see if the Bills score a TD, then we'll go." My younger son was a Redskins fan. "Fat chance," he said. We unpacked the seat pads.
The Bills scored. One of us said, "the comeback is on!" The woman sitting with her husband in front of us laughed. She was a teacher. At the game with her husband, she correcting homework papers. (A good way to stay occupied during a dreadful first half.) "It's a nice day to get out of the house," she said. After the Bills scored the third touchdown, you could feel the electricity in the stadium. Seriously. Something was in the air. The teacher stopped correcting papers and got into the game.
It recalled the time I was at a Mohawk Valley Comets (EHL, Utica) hockey game. The Comets were down by six goals going into the third period. Most fans had left. So did I. But in the parking lot, I found my car had was blocked and I couldn't leave. It was a bitter cold night, about 4 degrees, so I went back into the auditorium where I'd at least be warm. There I witnessed one of the most remarkable comebacks in sports. The Comets scored seven goals in the third period and won the game. The 937 fans who remained or returned to the arena were euphoric.
As the Bills closed within striking distance of the Oilers, fans could be seen streaming back into what was then called Rich stadium. It was a remarkable sight. Funny. We were sitting in a section (30 yard line, about 35 rows up, home team side, scoreboard end) that was elevated enough to allow us to see fans climbing over the chain link fence. Shortly afterward, security personnel opened the gates, probably wanting to avoid and prevent injuries. The stadium didn't exactly fill up, but there were more people in the lower bowl in the middle of the fourth quarter than the third quarter. Maybe some people from the upper decks moved down.
The place was buzzing. The emotion was palpable. Even if the Bills didn't win, it had turned into a competitive game and the fans that remained were lovin' life. Andre Reed was sure-handed, catching three TD passes; James Lofton and Don Beebe made incredible catches. The guy throwing the football was back-up QB Frank Reich. He was having a miserable day until lighting struck. Then, it seemed he could do no wrong.
The defense, which had been lethargic in the first half, came to life and stopped the Oilers in critical down situations. Luck played its part too. Beebe scored a TD that should have been disallowed. He'd stepped out of bounds, then back in bounds. In the fourth quarter the Bills went ahead by a field goal. The fans went berserk. It was as if the Bills had won the Superbowl. Maybe that's the closest they'll ever get to it. The Oilers then tied the game and it went into overtime.
Being a Bills fan, you know what emotions followed. "Wide right" is seared into our brains. But this time it didn't happen. My kids and I joined the rest of the people in our section saying, "The Bills are gonna win this game." Overtime. Reich holding for Steve Christie and the winning field goal.
"It's up, it's long enough, it's good! The Bills have won it, the Bills have won it!" Fandemonium. It was one of Van Miller's finest game calls. "The Comeback." Van could have been voted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame on this game alone.
After the game, I went home, then went to work at WGR and 97 Rock. If ever there was a time when the craetive production juices were flowing, this was it. The place was crazy. Much of the staff was coming back to radio station just to be a part of the event. TVs were on, as we scanned the networks for the highlights. The game was blacked out locally, but we wanted to see and hear what the rest of the sports world was saying about Buffalo, the Bills and the historic game.
It was like the tribe being summoned by the beating drums. Everybody wanted to be a part of the event, the emotion, the jazz. This was live radio at its best. People on the air at both stations "bringin' their A game." Listeners doing the same. News-Talk-Sports radio shines at times like this. It's almost untouchable. 97 Rock was soaring as well. In the hallways, people were laughing and high-fiving. The newsroom was buzzing and nearly fully staffed. The post game show was a party. There may have been open beer bottles in the control room. I can't recall (wink, nod.) Callers were weeping, laughing, incredulous.
Tom Burns was the game day producer. He and his crew had stacks of highlights on reel and carts for air and production. It's probably the closest I'll ever come to a "national production state of mind." I went to work on a Bills promo and legal IDs for WGR that must have played every ten minutes. I used PBP soundbites of Van Miller and backed it with the J.Geils Band lyric from the song "Comeback" to accent the production piece.
Tom Donahue produced an award winning promo with Frank Reich's "In Christ Alone." The sports staff was all over the game in the locker room. The players' reactions and live sound sounded like a New Years Eve party and everybody was invited. The sports and news packages and wraps that were produced on that day ate up almost all of our carts, and believe me, that was one facility that was well stocked (BTW, we used ScotchCarts and Fidelipac GolCarts packed with high output tape.)
At the time, Chuck Finney was the PD of WGR, consulted by Critical Mass (Randy Michaels & Company.) Everything was made bigger than life. The place was a hype machine, in its best and worst way. That day, it was one of the best. Finney seized the game for everything it was worth. We lived in the moment. It was almost overkill. Hell, it was overkill, but it was fun.
If you've ever had the pleasure of working on a sports production, high school college or pro sports, you know how crazy things can be on game day. You're always one step away from disaster. You work with a team of professionals and count on each other to get the job done. You're always ready to help a teammate if something goes wrong. Most of the time, because you've planned properly, things go right. Sometimes things go stratospherically-crazy-right. That was the comeback.
If the energy in the stadium was electric, the mood at WGR and 97 Rock was atomic. Mark Stout was involved in the games and knew most of the players. He was euphoric. He came back with tape from the locker room that was priceless. I can't count how many times people said "I can't believe it. This is great. I've never seen anything like it."
The Bills. The comeback. I'll never forget it. WGR and 97 Rock. It was a great place to be. One of the best moments I've experienced in that building with very good, decent, hard-working and talented people.
When people on this board occasionally rip local radio and live radio, some of us get defensive, probably because we've had great experiences and been part of some very good staffs. We take our craft seriously and perform our jobs proudly and professionally. Pardon the rant, but there's nothing in radio like professional "live and local." Savor the day. They go fast.
The game was a seminal event on many levels. I was at the game with my sons, now adults. Like most fans, when the Bills were down 28-3 at halftime, we thought about leaving. But we decided to stay. "The parking lot will be jammed with people trying to get out of here, let's wait." It was a pretty decent day. Temperature in the 40s. Pleasant for early January, especially by Buffalo standards.
Minutes into the third quarter, the Oilers picked off a Frank Reich pass and made the score 35-3. Things looked grim. We packed up our seat pads and talked to the few remaining fans in our section. We were dressed warmly, and there was no urgent need to leave, so we took our time. I remarked, "Warren Moon's played a helluva game, he's a decent guy, I guess this is their year." My oldest son said, "let's see if the Bills score a TD, then we'll go." My younger son was a Redskins fan. "Fat chance," he said. We unpacked the seat pads.
The Bills scored. One of us said, "the comeback is on!" The woman sitting with her husband in front of us laughed. She was a teacher. At the game with her husband, she correcting homework papers. (A good way to stay occupied during a dreadful first half.) "It's a nice day to get out of the house," she said. After the Bills scored the third touchdown, you could feel the electricity in the stadium. Seriously. Something was in the air. The teacher stopped correcting papers and got into the game.
It recalled the time I was at a Mohawk Valley Comets (EHL, Utica) hockey game. The Comets were down by six goals going into the third period. Most fans had left. So did I. But in the parking lot, I found my car had was blocked and I couldn't leave. It was a bitter cold night, about 4 degrees, so I went back into the auditorium where I'd at least be warm. There I witnessed one of the most remarkable comebacks in sports. The Comets scored seven goals in the third period and won the game. The 937 fans who remained or returned to the arena were euphoric.
As the Bills closed within striking distance of the Oilers, fans could be seen streaming back into what was then called Rich stadium. It was a remarkable sight. Funny. We were sitting in a section (30 yard line, about 35 rows up, home team side, scoreboard end) that was elevated enough to allow us to see fans climbing over the chain link fence. Shortly afterward, security personnel opened the gates, probably wanting to avoid and prevent injuries. The stadium didn't exactly fill up, but there were more people in the lower bowl in the middle of the fourth quarter than the third quarter. Maybe some people from the upper decks moved down.
The place was buzzing. The emotion was palpable. Even if the Bills didn't win, it had turned into a competitive game and the fans that remained were lovin' life. Andre Reed was sure-handed, catching three TD passes; James Lofton and Don Beebe made incredible catches. The guy throwing the football was back-up QB Frank Reich. He was having a miserable day until lighting struck. Then, it seemed he could do no wrong.
The defense, which had been lethargic in the first half, came to life and stopped the Oilers in critical down situations. Luck played its part too. Beebe scored a TD that should have been disallowed. He'd stepped out of bounds, then back in bounds. In the fourth quarter the Bills went ahead by a field goal. The fans went berserk. It was as if the Bills had won the Superbowl. Maybe that's the closest they'll ever get to it. The Oilers then tied the game and it went into overtime.
Being a Bills fan, you know what emotions followed. "Wide right" is seared into our brains. But this time it didn't happen. My kids and I joined the rest of the people in our section saying, "The Bills are gonna win this game." Overtime. Reich holding for Steve Christie and the winning field goal.
"It's up, it's long enough, it's good! The Bills have won it, the Bills have won it!" Fandemonium. It was one of Van Miller's finest game calls. "The Comeback." Van could have been voted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame on this game alone.
After the game, I went home, then went to work at WGR and 97 Rock. If ever there was a time when the craetive production juices were flowing, this was it. The place was crazy. Much of the staff was coming back to radio station just to be a part of the event. TVs were on, as we scanned the networks for the highlights. The game was blacked out locally, but we wanted to see and hear what the rest of the sports world was saying about Buffalo, the Bills and the historic game.
It was like the tribe being summoned by the beating drums. Everybody wanted to be a part of the event, the emotion, the jazz. This was live radio at its best. People on the air at both stations "bringin' their A game." Listeners doing the same. News-Talk-Sports radio shines at times like this. It's almost untouchable. 97 Rock was soaring as well. In the hallways, people were laughing and high-fiving. The newsroom was buzzing and nearly fully staffed. The post game show was a party. There may have been open beer bottles in the control room. I can't recall (wink, nod.) Callers were weeping, laughing, incredulous.
Tom Burns was the game day producer. He and his crew had stacks of highlights on reel and carts for air and production. It's probably the closest I'll ever come to a "national production state of mind." I went to work on a Bills promo and legal IDs for WGR that must have played every ten minutes. I used PBP soundbites of Van Miller and backed it with the J.Geils Band lyric from the song "Comeback" to accent the production piece.
Tom Donahue produced an award winning promo with Frank Reich's "In Christ Alone." The sports staff was all over the game in the locker room. The players' reactions and live sound sounded like a New Years Eve party and everybody was invited. The sports and news packages and wraps that were produced on that day ate up almost all of our carts, and believe me, that was one facility that was well stocked (BTW, we used ScotchCarts and Fidelipac GolCarts packed with high output tape.)
At the time, Chuck Finney was the PD of WGR, consulted by Critical Mass (Randy Michaels & Company.) Everything was made bigger than life. The place was a hype machine, in its best and worst way. That day, it was one of the best. Finney seized the game for everything it was worth. We lived in the moment. It was almost overkill. Hell, it was overkill, but it was fun.
If you've ever had the pleasure of working on a sports production, high school college or pro sports, you know how crazy things can be on game day. You're always one step away from disaster. You work with a team of professionals and count on each other to get the job done. You're always ready to help a teammate if something goes wrong. Most of the time, because you've planned properly, things go right. Sometimes things go stratospherically-crazy-right. That was the comeback.
If the energy in the stadium was electric, the mood at WGR and 97 Rock was atomic. Mark Stout was involved in the games and knew most of the players. He was euphoric. He came back with tape from the locker room that was priceless. I can't count how many times people said "I can't believe it. This is great. I've never seen anything like it."
The Bills. The comeback. I'll never forget it. WGR and 97 Rock. It was a great place to be. One of the best moments I've experienced in that building with very good, decent, hard-working and talented people.
When people on this board occasionally rip local radio and live radio, some of us get defensive, probably because we've had great experiences and been part of some very good staffs. We take our craft seriously and perform our jobs proudly and professionally. Pardon the rant, but there's nothing in radio like professional "live and local." Savor the day. They go fast.
Thanks for sharing that wonderful memory of January 3, 1993, JPB. My memories of that game aren't as exciting as yours. But a few days before -- on New Years Eve -- NPR's Tom Goldman, who was then a behind-the-scenes sports producer, called me to ask if I'd be interested in covering the game for the network. I said sure. But it being right before a holiday, he couldn't get credentials from the Bills. I actually suggested he contact Sam Anson at WEBR, who was always at the games. But Goldman knew my work and so he asked me to write a 45 second spot for the newscasts, even though I'd be among the folks who could only listen to the game. If I didn't have the assignment, I probably would have turned off the game after the interception return. Like everyone else, my excitement built as the Bills mounted their comeback. Late in the fourth quarter, I began crafting my script on my son's first computer -- an Apple II GS. I was tempting the fates, but I started writing a story about a Bills miracle win, even though the game was not finished. I was just hoping I would not have to start changing it to reflect a Houston win. As Christie lined up for the winning field goal, my wife, seven-year-old son and I were gathered around the radio -- just like it was the 1940s -- holding hands, listening to Van's legendary call. After some hugging and screaming, I finished up the script and phoned it into Washington.
The next year, NPR got me credentialed to the Raiders and Chiefs playoffs game. Ask me sometime, JPB, about one of the most embarrassing moments of my career that actually affected WGR's post-game show. Let's just say I unplugged the wrong cord.
The next year, NPR got me credentialed to the Raiders and Chiefs playoffs game. Ask me sometime, JPB, about one of the most embarrassing moments of my career that actually affected WGR's post-game show. Let's just say I unplugged the wrong cord.
Ask the crowd at 20 Guest Street in Boston, Mass that same question about the Red Sox rights back in 2006. Right before the economy tanked. I'm sure it looked good for Entercom/WEEI in 2007 when they won another Series, but ever since then I suspect Entercom has been cursing that contract. 10 years and $200mil for a team with back-to-back third place finishes? Ouch. Even with Red Sox Nation's rabid fan base, that's still "ouch."
That said, AFAIK it's not like Entercom has LOST money off that deal. Outrageous as it was, WEEI still earns a cubic buttload of cash for every game. I think they topped $36 million in 2007, IIRC, just for WEEI...never mind WAAF, WRKO and then-WMKK. (none of which earned anywhere near that much money, of course, but I doubt any of them LOST money, either)
And I suspect that dynamic will come into play with the Bills, too. They've got a rabid fan base and that means the broadcasts are valuable. If Entercom wasn't reasonably sure that they'll make money off the deal, then they wouldn't have done it.
But once again, it's easier to spread out the cost of that contract on an all-sports station like WEEI than on a rock station. That's why Cumulus walked away from the Bills but continue to broadcast the NFL and play by play sports in other markets. It CAN be a cash cow if it's on the right kind of station.
In the grander scheme of things, Entercom is getting a lot of content that's unavailable anywhere else. Even the TV broadcasts are generally national in scope, with a lot less concentration on THE BILLS. Only the Buffalo News equals, or perhaps exceeds, local radio for Bills coverage. I don't know what the terms of the deal are, but Entercom has generally be pretty smart with its money. In this case, they were in a bidding war with two other groups who had no intention of winning. I'd guess that they're paying less than the most recent Citadel-negotiated contract. I suspect that the Bills had to hold their collective noses when inking the deal.
We're seeing a slow but sure shift of radio from music delivery to talk content. The muckety-mucks don't seem to be able to grasp the idea that radio may be able to compete with mp3s and web-delivered music in much the same way that radio met previous challenges from 8-tracks, cassettes, and CDs. If you're a jukebox, you lose. If you deliver compelling content to go with the music, you have a value-added product that's easy to consume on a device that you already own. If the NAB is successful getting FM tuner is cell phone turned on, it could be a game-changer.
We're seeing a slow but sure shift of radio from music delivery to talk content. The muckety-mucks don't seem to be able to grasp the idea that radio may be able to compete with mp3s and web-delivered music in much the same way that radio met previous challenges from 8-tracks, cassettes, and CDs. If you're a jukebox, you lose. If you deliver compelling content to go with the music, you have a value-added product that's easy to consume on a device that you already own. If the NAB is successful getting FM tuner is cell phone turned on, it could be a game-changer.
SirRoxalot said:
Bla bla bla. That theory only works if the audience perceives that local DJs are "value-added." Most view them as interruptions.
I don't expect all music to disappear from radio. Just fringe formats. Talk has an advantage in that stations own the content. Not so with music. Record labels own the music. Radio just rents. In some cases, it will be cheaper to own than to rent. That's what this is about.
Local DJs are value-added if they're given the opportunity to do more than repeat tired positioners and slogans, read liner cards verbatim, and talk for a total of :60 seconds spread over 5 talk breaks per hour. It's funny how the same people who lament the supposed lack of radio talent are the same people who prevent talent from performing by formatting them to death.
Thanks for the detailed post, JPB. I too was at the game. My friend and I sat in silence in halftime and I will freely admit that if he wanted to leave I would've been all for it. I remember hearing at the time that the Oilers were ranked in the top 10 statistically in both offense and defense that year. I was thinking that it was a fine day for them to finally put it all together at our expense. When the Bills scored their first two touchdowns (after the Oilers made it 35-3) and the buzz started in the stadium I didn't see what the big deal was, there was no way the Bills were going to win that game. To this day it doesn't seem real. In that year's Super Bowl when Reich came on in the 3rd quarter in relief of Kelly and threw a TD pass to make it 31-17 heading into the fourth quarter I really thought the Bills were destined to win. Thanks to Leon Lett it wasn't the worst loss in Super Bowl history. Ok, back to another Rox/A tilt. 
SirRoxalot said:
Some day PPM will come to Buffalo and you'll see what listeners really want. You'll be shocked. The only person who gets value out of DJs yammering is the DJ. Even his mom wants him to shut up. The truth hurts. Go to a club where they have a live DJ and tell me how much those guys talk.
I hope not much...these are the same guys that do weddings. The last few weddings that I've been too are musical abortions due to these yo-yos. NOT a clue!! But that's what's been said on here many times before....
Carry on......
HDBG
Yeah, we know your perspective - "Talent sucks unless it's national". Blah-blah-blah.
For your information, doing weddings and other events in front of a live crowd is a very different skill set from performing on the radio. I know a number of very successful radio jocks who can't work a crowd to save their lives. I know a number of very successful club jocks and event jocks who suck on the radio, and have never been able to hold an on-air job.
I don't need PPM to tell me that people don't want to hear a sales pitch every time somebody cracks a mic. If they're not going to get something that THEY care about, they'd rather hear music. When an air talent who actually relates to the audience offers the audience something of meaning, you have added value to the station. Half the people who accuse the jock of "interrupting" are actually hearing canned liners produced by voice talent at the direction of overburdened programmers, or at the direction of corporate. Reduce the canned content, and let the jocks work promo material in within the same amount of time, and you've got a better product.
Until you're ready to post some bona fides regarding your actual success programming music radio, your opinion holds little sway among people who've actually done the job. Your attitude toward air talent is so poisoned that it makes one wonder just how badly you were treated by people who you obviously weren't in a position to fire. My guess is that you weren't their favorite person, and they certainly weren't yours.
For your information, doing weddings and other events in front of a live crowd is a very different skill set from performing on the radio. I know a number of very successful radio jocks who can't work a crowd to save their lives. I know a number of very successful club jocks and event jocks who suck on the radio, and have never been able to hold an on-air job.
I don't need PPM to tell me that people don't want to hear a sales pitch every time somebody cracks a mic. If they're not going to get something that THEY care about, they'd rather hear music. When an air talent who actually relates to the audience offers the audience something of meaning, you have added value to the station. Half the people who accuse the jock of "interrupting" are actually hearing canned liners produced by voice talent at the direction of overburdened programmers, or at the direction of corporate. Reduce the canned content, and let the jocks work promo material in within the same amount of time, and you've got a better product.
Until you're ready to post some bona fides regarding your actual success programming music radio, your opinion holds little sway among people who've actually done the job. Your attitude toward air talent is so poisoned that it makes one wonder just how badly you were treated by people who you obviously weren't in a position to fire. My guess is that you weren't their favorite person, and they certainly weren't yours.
SirRoxalot said:
The sales pitch is one of the least offensive things on the list. You act like we don't know what talent says and how people respond. This isn't rocket science.
SirRoxalot said:
That's OK. You don't respect the opinions of people whose "bona fides" are well known. Either they agree with you, or they're idiots.
As soon as you get the people with "bona fides" to agree with each other, you'll have a convincing arguement. Right now McVay and many other former consultants are spouting the company line for the bosses that sign their paychecks. In case you hadn't noticed, the ranks of truly independent consultants have thinned considerably. One thing's for sure, trying to out-jukebox a technology that lets people pick their own music is doomed to failure.
You're right. You don't live in Buffalo. And Cumulus doesn't own a Jack station here, but Townsquare does. Thanks for your uninformed generic input. It simply demonstrates that YOU CAN'T RELATE TO AN AUDIENCE BY REMOTE CONTROL. Oh, and the fact that you don't actually read - or perhaps understand - posts before you use them as a springboard for your pro-consolidation propaganda.
Some national shows that deal with national topics work, but radio can't live on that 24/7/365. it's not what the audience expects or wants. The most successful stations have always offered a much more human connection. The key factor that separates the winners from the losers outside NY, Chicago, and LA, is strong local content.
Some national shows that deal with national topics work, but radio can't live on that 24/7/365. it's not what the audience expects or wants. The most successful stations have always offered a much more human connection. The key factor that separates the winners from the losers outside NY, Chicago, and LA, is strong local content.
SirRoxalot said:
I understand exactly what you're saying. You believe Mike McVay promotes jockless formats like Jack. But that's wrong. He doesn't. He has no background in doing that, and he has given no indication that he will do that with Cumulus. And how you came up with the idea that Bob Pittman was a consultant is beyond me.
I used Jack as an example of a low-rent format. I never said that McVay promoted jockless formats. I did say that McVay - and others - promote heavily formatted formats with little room for creativity. Pittman has not been a consultant per se, but has certainly been a hired gun marketing guru. He was also a successful radio programmer in the '70s. That's a long time ago. He's been hired as a marketer at Clear Channel, not a programmer.
OK, Pittman was not a radio consultant, but he has opined on radio programming recently. I can admit that I made a mistake. How about you? You've made a boatload of them, and have yet to admit to ANY.
OK, Pittman was not a radio consultant, but he has opined on radio programming recently. I can admit that I made a mistake. How about you? You've made a boatload of them, and have yet to admit to ANY.
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