Bitter Neal Boortz WGUL promo- bashes WWBA

[Don62]

Anyone hear this rant?
He mutters something about that "other station down there, I... I'm not going to mention their name. They've gone through two or three people since I left."

Fact is, one left the city (wasn't fired) and he was replaced by another host. So Neal again shades the real story to better support his weak show.

What's with this crank? Sorry he lost an affiliate? That's what happens to syndicated shows.
WWBA apparently didn't think his constant talking about his private jet and other idiotic things was helping their ratings that much, or they would have moved him to later evenings.

You don't hear Kim Kommando or other former WWBA shows that moved to WGUL whining about "how horribly" they were treated by that other station!

 

[jmtillery]

Anyone hear this rant?
He mutters something about that "other station down there, I... I'm not going to mention their name. They've gone through two or three people since I left."

Fact is, one left the city (wasn't fired) and he was replaced by another host. So Neal again shades the real story to better support his weak show.

What's with this crank? Sorry he lost an affiliate? That's what happens to syndicated shows.
WWBA apparently didn't think his constant talking about his private jet and other idiotic things was helping their ratings that much, or they would have moved him to later evenings.

You don't hear Kim Kommando or other former WWBA shows that moved to WGUL whining about "how horribly" they were treated by that other station!

I have always thought Neil Boortz did an oustanding job as a radio talk host. We started carrying his show on WSKY-FM Gainesville ten years ago when I was working in the News Department at "The Sky 97.3 FM." However, I haven't listened to him lately, so perhaps he has taken his show in a different direction since the last time I had tuned in to hear "The Talk Meister".

WWBA, on the other hand, has made vast improvements recently, especially with its recent coup in securing the newer 50kw signal on 820. I'm impressed with how well News-Talk 820 has come up from a virtual unknown in its infancy on 1040 to what it has become today...

Mark Tillery
General Manager
WELE-AM 1380 Daytona Beach, Florida
[email protected]

 

[sbe1]

It is a shame to see Neal relegated to late nite status. I, for one certainly enjoy his show, but I wont listen now in his current time slot. I feel he is far superior to Salem's lame corporate lineup. WWBA did the same with Dr. Laura Ingraham. With WWBA losing O'Reilly here in a few weeks, it will be interesting to see who they put in that slot. They could put in the missing hours of Dennis Miller and Dave Ramsey. I can only take so much of Ramsey. It is the same show over and over and over again.

 

[MichaelCrose]

Dave Ramsey is a weekend show. A very good weekend show, but a weekend show none the less.

Sbe1is right, How many times can you tell someone how to pay off their bills and stop buying cars on time. It’s nice for an hour or two a week but not every day.

 

[Don62]

I see WGUL took another WWBA reject- Kim Komando.

Why did WWBA let her go? I think her show was better than The Money Pit, which isn't live even on weekends but is prerecorded during a weeknight!

Though I used to be a longtime listener of Kim Komando, I found it was too superficial. Just the retail version. You often hear her say to a caller, "That problem is too complicated to go into on the air...."

I like Leo LaPorte better. He doesn't have any fear about going into too much depth or detail with callers and their computer problems.

 

[MichaelCrose]

But how about that crappy computer show on WWBA on Saturday. You know, where they claim to be the “Number One” computer talk show. They do bad comedy and give no advice. (They always tell you to come to their shop)

Oh, right. They buy that time…

I listen to Leo of FLA. The truly “Number One” show about computers.

 

[Don62]

I think her show was better than The Money Pit, which isn't live even on weekends but is prerecorded during a weeknight!

I know this show is recorded during the week because I called in. During one of their round of prizes.
You were to explain your home improvement problem or situation, and they may call you back.
I asked when I would go on the air.
They said the program is recorded during the week during the evening.

They never called me back.

 

[barfly2]

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WWBA, on the other hand, has made vast improvements recently, especially with its recent coup in securing the newer 50kw signal on 820. I'm impressed with how well News-Talk 820 has come up from a virtual unknown in its infancy on 1040 to what it has become today...


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Their other property ESPN Sports Radio 1040 has become one of my favorites as well.... big improvements going on over there. I especially like the mid day show The Killer Bee's. I was never a sports radio person until I started listening to that show.

 

[Liver Lips]

Just because you have improved signal, does'nt mean you have
improved programming. Kim Kommando was the highest rated program on
WWBA before they let it go to WGUL.

Killer Bees are idiots, as well as Dan York. WWBA thinks ratings will improve\
next book (Winter) - not a chance --- still a .5 on both at best.

They continue to bleed money!

 

[Don62]

So just make WWBA be a satellite or repeater station with local news outside of morning drive? No listener interaction on most programs?
Giving listeners shows like Dennis Miller and other non-interactive and non-compelling syndicated shows?

That would make for interesting radio?

Taking nearly everything off satellitte certainly didn't help its earlier ratings.

Shows you what you know about good listener-driven talk radio.

 

[jmtillery]

So just make WWBA be a satellite or repeater station with local news outside of morning drive? No listener interaction on most programs?
Giving listeners shows like Dennis Miller and other non-interactive and non-compelling syndicated shows?

That would make for interesting radio?

Taking nearly everything off satellitte certainly didn't help its earlier ratings.

Shows you what you know about good listener-driven talk radio.

Don,

Would you care to let us in on who this reply is directed? Since you didn't include a quote, I have no idea who you are refering when you say Shows you what you know about good listener-driven talk radio..

Mark Tillery
General Manager
WELE-AM 1380
Daytona Beach, Florida
[email protected]

 

[Don62]

Mark, it wasn't directed at you.
My thoughts were on the comment that preceded mine.
Sorry. I thought I included the quote feature. Will correct that now.

Just because you have improved signal, does'nt mean you have
improved programming. Kim Kommando was the highest rated program on
WWBA before they let it go to WGUL.

Killer Bees are idiots, as well as Dan York. WWBA thinks ratings will improve\
next book (Winter) - not a chance --- still a .5 on both at best.

They continue to bleed money!

So just make WWBA be a satellite or repeater station with local news outside of morning drive? No listener interaction on most programs?
Giving listeners shows like Dennis Miller, Glenn Beck, Limbo, that Hannity jerk, and other non-interactive and non-compelling syndicated shows?

That would make for interesting radio?

Taking nearly everything off satellitte certainly didn't help its earlier ratings.

Shows you what you know about good listener-driven talk radio.

 

[jmtillery]

Just because you have improved signal, does'nt mean you have
improved programming. Kim Kommando was the highest rated program on
WWBA before they let it go to WGUL.

Killer Bees are idiots, as well as Dan York. WWBA thinks ratings will improve\
next book (Winter) - not a chance --- still a .5 on both at best.

They continue to bleed money!

Although programming can always be improved upon, I happen to think News-Talk 820 is doing a good job, especially considering WWBA has been the underdog in the past. Not every show is perfect, but to paraphrase a borrowed quote from you, one or two less than compelling shows does not "Train-Wreck" the whole station.

If WWBA were to add a local/live afternoon show, that would greatly compliment its overall air sound while attracting new listeners who are searching for local radio content. This, in turn, will also attract new local retail advertising dollars.

The new 50kw low dial position signal WILL improve ratings by default simply, for no other reason, because WWBA will have greater Reach with its bigger signal making it possible for new listeners, that previously were unable to hear the station, to have vastly improved reception...

Mark Tillery
General Manager
WELE-AM 1380
Daytona Beach, Florida
[email protected]

 

[jmtillery]

WWBA, on the other hand, has made vast improvements recently, especially with its recent coup in securing the newer 50kw signal on 820. I'm impressed with how well News-Talk 820 has come up from a virtual unknown in its infancy on 1040 to what it has become today...


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Their other property ESPN Sports Radio 1040 has become one of my favorites as well.... big improvements going on over there. I especially like the mid day show The Killer Bee's. I was never a sports radio person until I started listening to that show.
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Barfly2,

It's very flattering that you find my quote worthy of re-posting, but you neglected to leave a comment to either of the above referenced quotes... Would you care to expound upon what you find interesting about the previously posted content?

Mark Tillery,
Genal Manager
WELE-AM 1380
Daytona Beach, Florida
[email protected]

 

[Don62]

If WWBA were to add a local/live afternoon show, that would greatly compliment its overall air sound while attracting new listeners who are searching for local radio content. This, in turn, will also attract new local retail advertising dollars.

I've thought that too.
Adding more shows = more revenue and attracts more listeners, who aren't always enthusiastic about "generic" satellite shows.

Paul Gonzalez, if I heard him right, the other day sounded like WWBA was about to start an 11:00 p.m. show. I would have preferred this:

Move Ramsey to 12-2.
Miller or Lou Dobbs (better) 2-4 p.m
Bring on local p.m. drive show ( or Lou Dobbs) 4-6 or 3-6.
6-9 continue with Savage
9-11 continue with local show.

 

[barfly2]

WWBA, on the other hand, has made vast improvements recently, especially with its recent coup in securing the newer 50kw signal on 820. I'm impressed with how well News-Talk 820 has come up from a virtual unknown in its infancy on 1040 to what it has become today...

Their other property ESPN Sports Radio 1040 has become one of my favorites as well.... big improvements going on over there. I especially like the mid day show The Killer Bee's. I was never a sports radio person until I started listening to that show.
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Barfly2,

It's very flattering that you find my quote worthy of re-posting, but you neglected to leave a comment to either of the above referenced quotes... Would you care to expound upon what you find interesting about the previously posted content?

Mark Tillery,
Genal Manager
WELE-AM 1380
Daytona Beach, Florida
[email protected]
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That was really weird as I was trying to quote your comment but it certainly came up without the "blue box.."
You mentioned that 820 has had vast improvments and I agree 100% with you! Just wanted to add that I also feel that their other station, ESPN radio 1040, has also improved as well. I hope this comes up correctly this time.

 

[Kabrich]

The new 50kw low dial position signal WILL improve ratings by default simply, for no other reason, because WWBA will have greater Reach with its bigger signal making it possible for new listeners, that previously were unable to hear the station, to have vastly improved reception...

Ah, the bigger stick theory.

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around does it make a noise?

What if the forest is now twice as large?

Fact is, WWBA seems to have lost half their audience since the move to the bigger stick in the last 60 days going from a 0.8 - 0.6 - 0.4.

 

[DToTheJ]

But how about that crappy computer show on WWBA on Saturday. You know, where they claim to be the “Number One” computer talk show. They do bad comedy and give no advice. (They always tell you to come to their shop)

Oh, right. They buy that time….

Well, whaddaya know? A brokered joker! Ah HA ha!

 

[smedge2006]

Ah, the bigger stick theory.

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around does it make a noise?

What if the forest is now twice as large?

Fact is, WWBA seems to have lost half their audience since the move to the bigger stick in the last 60 days going from a 0.8 - 0.6 - 0.4.

I suppose, by your reasoning, WWRM should never have moved from 107.3 to 94.9 in the 90's. They took a big hit in their first book after changing frequencies. WDUV should never have gone from 103.5 to 105.5. No way could they survive that. WDAE should have stayed on 1250 too.

There has to be a LOT of diary confusion, given the frequency changed while the call letters didn't, the call-in numbers and web addresses still carried the old frequency, all this in the Fall book (crucial for a political news-talker) with no outside publicity save for a few snipe signs placed to blend in with the campaign signs along a few roads. Not to mention that 820 is on its third midday host since the summer (Boortz to Silva to York). The shift was handled poorly by Genesis -- why would anyone be surprised at that? But that doesn't mean it won't eventually benefit WWBA.

There is only ONE forest for all stations -- the Tampa Bay market, defined as Hernando, Pasco, Pinellas and Hillsborough counties. WWBA only reached part of that market with its day signal. Now it reaches all of it with its daytime power -- a claim only one other AM can reasonably make. Long term, that has to benefit them, in terms of growing the audience at least.

 

[bgwilde1]

I know you do not listen to the show often (if at all), judging by what you said.

Boortz visits the area often and has been known to visit his affiliates a LOT.

He treats them as if they are the only station he is on, and some actually keep him in the loop on local matters so he can use it in his show.

As for that plane thing, it is a single engine prop that he flies himself. No jet there. If you have a spare $50,000 to buy a cheap Mooney or expensive Cessna (or want to sell your Chevy Suburban or your beat-up ugly bass boat to find the $), you too can fly!

As a private aviator, he brings up issues in his broadcast areas about the airport NIMBYS (something near and dear to my heart, listening to the id10t members while growing up around North Perry Airport in Pembroke Pines), though not all that often.

You do not have to agree with everything he says, or even with ANYTHING he says. His point of contention (and a good one) is that in areas he is given a good late morning or early afternoon time slot, he usually wins it or comes very close. Burying him in a late night daypart is not a great thing because most of what he covers has been hashed out by other talkers at that point and make it sound less topical and overplayed.

As long as the station is making $$$ with him in the nights, they have little incentive to move him currently.

At least he is on in Tampa!