BizRadio 1360

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Does anyone in Dallas even know that this station exists? Does anyone think there will be a future for this station or format in Dallas?

 

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> Does anyone in Dallas even know that this station exists?
> Does anyone think there will be a future for this station or
> format in Dallas?
>
Yes. The advertising is doing well and they are expanding into other markets. La, Philly,New York. They are already in Dallas and Houston. They are not concerned with ratings only serving the business community to which they are. Shows Like "The Latino Business Hour"and The Vince Rowe "show are VERY popular in the downtown Business district,their core audience. Some other shows should take it upon themselves to market themselves better as these two have. Sales have increased since they started in Houston a year ago. the Dallas Morning News, Dallas Business Journal, and other publications have done many articles about Bizradio,all positive. The future is bright for the way they are structured,and the format is unique and exclusive in Houston and Dallas.

Looking at your Houston Posts, I would say you were a former employee,host or advertiser with BIZRADIO. One misconception to clear up,the Dallas salespersons you alluded to,were making "side deals" and were making promises their checks could'nt cash. They were asked to leave and the sales persons who have replaced them are bringing in more revenue. I also know Brent Clanton very well,and you couldn't ask for a more honest person in this business.

 

[adguy]

> > Does anyone in Dallas even know that this station exists?
>
> > Does anyone think there will be a future for this station
> or
> > format in Dallas?
> >
> Yes. The advertising is doing well and they are expanding
> into other markets. La, Philly,New York. They are already in
> Dallas and Houston. They are not concerned with ratings only
> serving the business community to which they are. Shows Like
> "The Latino Business Hour"and The Vince Rowe "show are VERY
> popular in the downtown Business district,their core
> audience. Some other shows should take it upon themselves to
> market themselves better as these two have. Sales have
> increased since they started in Houston a year ago. the
> Dallas Morning News, Dallas Business Journal, and other
> publications have done many articles about Bizradio,all
> positive. The future is bright for the way they are
> structured,and the format is unique and exclusive in Houston
> and Dallas.
>
> Looking at your Houston Posts, I would say you were a former
> employee,host or advertiser with BIZRADIO. One misconception
> to clear up,the Dallas salespersons you alluded to,were
> making "side deals" and were making promises their checks
> could'nt cash. They were asked to leave and the sales
> persons who have replaced them are bringing in more revenue.
>
Actually I attempted to get a couple of my clients on the Houston station last year. I love the format and wish someone would start a Business station with what BizRadio started last year before they altered their programming. I don't know what you're talking about with regards to Dallas salespeople. My posts stem from a negative experience I had last year when I attempted to put two of my clients on the Houston station. The owner Dan Frishberg offended me and my clients when he tried to tell me how to construct a message when all I wanted to do was place my pre-produced creative on the station. When I suggested that the sales manager get involved he said he was the sales and station manager and that I should listen to nobody else there. They had a golden opportunity to generate some ad revenue from an agency that really did not care about the ratings, but blew it. I still listen from time-to-time because I love business talk, but it's hard when they go to a SPORTS program in the middle of morning drive hosted by a has-been interviewing Dallas sports has-beens. In Houston, I imagine any audience they have quickly vanishes and I doubt anyone in Dallas tuning into a BUSINESS station will stay with it when the topic is SPORTS. Isn't there more than one sports station in Dallas already? It sounds to me like you are a BizRadio employee, host or advertiser. It's nice to have press, but as an agency with clients that watch every media dollar spent I would like to see listeners. Last book I saw in Houston BizRadio was 45th in adults 35+ which is the demo I was looking at last year. In Dallas I'm sure it's worse with the competition. Get some listeners, then go bragging. In the meantime please try to program more business talk and try to stay on the air beyond 6PM. It's killing any attemt at credibility.

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

> > > Does anyone in Dallas even know that this station
> exists?
> >
> > > Does anyone think there will be a future for this
> station
> > or
> > > format in Dallas?
> > >
> > Yes. The advertising is doing well and they are expanding
> > into other markets. La, Philly,New York. They are already
> in
> > Dallas and Houston. They are not concerned with ratings
> only
> > serving the business community to which they are. Shows
> Like
> > "The Latino Business Hour"and The Vince Rowe "show are
> VERY
> > popular in the downtown Business district,their core
> > audience. Some other shows should take it upon themselves
> to
> > market themselves better as these two have. Sales have
> > increased since they started in Houston a year ago. the
> > Dallas Morning News, Dallas Business Journal, and other
> > publications have done many articles about Bizradio,all
> > positive. The future is bright for the way they are
> > structured,and the format is unique and exclusive in
> Houston
> > and Dallas.
> >
> > Looking at your Houston Posts, I would say you were a
> former
> > employee,host or advertiser with BIZRADIO. One
> misconception
> > to clear up,the Dallas salespersons you alluded to,were
> > making "side deals" and were making promises their checks
> > could'nt cash. They were asked to leave and the sales
> > persons who have replaced them are bringing in more
> revenue.
> >
> Actually I attempted to get a couple of my clients on the
> Houston station last year. I love the format and wish
> someone would start a Business station with what BizRadio
> started last year before they altered their programming. I
> don't know what you're talking about with regards to Dallas
> salespeople. My posts stem from a negative experience I had
> last year when I attempted to put two of my clients on the
> Houston station. The owner Dan Frishberg offended me and my
> clients when he tried to tell me how to construct a message
> when all I wanted to do was place my pre-produced creative
> on the station. When I suggested that the sales manager get
> involved he said he was the sales and station manager and
> that I should listen to nobody else there. They had a
> golden opportunity to generate some ad revenue from an
> agency that really did not care about the ratings, but blew
> it. I still listen from time-to-time because I love
> business talk, but it's hard when they go to a SPORTS
> program in the middle of morning drive hosted by a has-been
> interviewing Dallas sports has-beens. In Houston, I imagine
> any audience they have quickly vanishes and I doubt anyone
> in Dallas tuning into a BUSINESS station will stay with it
> when the topic is SPORTS. Isn't there more than one sports
> station in Dallas already? It sounds to me like you are a
> BizRadio employee, host or advertiser. It's nice to have
> press, but as an agency with clients that watch every media
> dollar spent I would like to see listeners. Last book I saw
> in Houston BizRadio was 45th in adults 35+ which is the demo
> I was looking at last year. In Dallas I'm sure it's worse
> with the competition. Get some listeners, then go bragging.
> In the meantime please try to program more business talk
> and try to stay on the air beyond 6PM. It's killing any
> attemt at credibility.
>
You make some interesting points. First let me state; No I am not an associated with Bizradio. Second,the "salespersons" I mentioned was in response to your post on the Houston column. Third I agree and there are some who do as well,that a "sports talk"show on Bizradio is not a good fit plus The Restaurant Talk with Stevens and Cleverly wasn't either. I wouldn't call Scott a "Has Been" He has moved on in his career and is well connected beyond Sports. It is probably due to his connections that he is doing a show on Bizradio. He is knowledgable in many areas beyond sports.
I understand the problem with your "prerecorded program" but in the past year there have been some prerecorded programs, "Money and Mortgage" comes to mind that WERE NOT what they presented themselves to be in terms of finance. In fact M&M" has had some bad press about their dealings. Bizradio apparently is very leery of any Preproduced programs unless it was from Bloomberg,or the Wall Street Journal. The Dallas listners are present ( not employees or owners of Bizradio),but as I said before they are not interested in ratings. If they were not doing well,they would not have celebrated one year in existencejust recently, plus they are currently working on expansion. Perhaps you should have dealt directly with Brent,not Dan,then your point of view would be more favorable towards Bizradio.

 

[adguy]

> > > > Does anyone in Dallas even know that this station
> > exists?
> > >
> > > > Does anyone think there will be a future for this
> > station
> > > or
> > > > format in Dallas?
> > > >
> > > Yes. The advertising is doing well and they are
> expanding
> > > into other markets. La, Philly,New York. They are
> already
> > in
> > > Dallas and Houston. They are not concerned with ratings
> > only
> > > serving the business community to which they are. Shows
> > Like
> > > "The Latino Business Hour"and The Vince Rowe "show are
> > VERY
> > > popular in the downtown Business district,their core
> > > audience. Some other shows should take it upon
> themselves
> > to
> > > market themselves better as these two have. Sales have
> > > increased since they started in Houston a year ago. the
> > > Dallas Morning News, Dallas Business Journal, and other
> > > publications have done many articles about Bizradio,all
> > > positive. The future is bright for the way they are
> > > structured,and the format is unique and exclusive in
> > Houston
> > > and Dallas.
> > >
> > > Looking at your Houston Posts, I would say you were a
> > former
> > > employee,host or advertiser with BIZRADIO. One
> > misconception
> > > to clear up,the Dallas salespersons you alluded to,were
> > > making "side deals" and were making promises their
> checks
> > > could'nt cash. They were asked to leave and the sales
> > > persons who have replaced them are bringing in more
> > revenue.
> > >
> > Actually I attempted to get a couple of my clients on the
> > Houston station last year. I love the format and wish
> > someone would start a Business station with what BizRadio
> > started last year before they altered their programming.
> I
> > don't know what you're talking about with regards to
> Dallas
> > salespeople. My posts stem from a negative experience I
> had
> > last year when I attempted to put two of my clients on the
>
> > Houston station. The owner Dan Frishberg offended me and
> my
> > clients when he tried to tell me how to construct a
> message
> > when all I wanted to do was place my pre-produced creative
>
> > on the station. When I suggested that the sales manager
> get
> > involved he said he was the sales and station manager and
> > that I should listen to nobody else there. They had a
> > golden opportunity to generate some ad revenue from an
> > agency that really did not care about the ratings, but
> blew
> > it. I still listen from time-to-time because I love
> > business talk, but it's hard when they go to a SPORTS
> > program in the middle of morning drive hosted by a
> has-been
> > interviewing Dallas sports has-beens. In Houston, I
> imagine
> > any audience they have quickly vanishes and I doubt anyone
>
> > in Dallas tuning into a BUSINESS station will stay with it
>
> > when the topic is SPORTS. Isn't there more than one sports
>
> > station in Dallas already? It sounds to me like you are a
>
> > BizRadio employee, host or advertiser. It's nice to have
> > press, but as an agency with clients that watch every
> media
> > dollar spent I would like to see listeners. Last book I
> saw
> > in Houston BizRadio was 45th in adults 35+ which is the
> demo
> > I was looking at last year. In Dallas I'm sure it's worse
>
> > with the competition. Get some listeners, then go
> bragging.
> > In the meantime please try to program more business talk
> > and try to stay on the air beyond 6PM. It's killing any
> > attemt at credibility.
> >
> You make some interesting points. First let me state; No I
> am not an associated with Bizradio. Second,the
> "salespersons" I mentioned was in response to your post on
> the Houston column. Third I agree and there are some who do
> as well,that a "sports talk"show on Bizradio is not a good
> fit plus The Restaurant Talk with Stevens and Cleverly
> wasn't either. I wouldn't call Scott a "Has Been" He has
> moved on in his career and is well connected beyond Sports.
> It is probably due to his connections that he is doing a
> show on Bizradio. He is knowledgable in many areas beyond
> sports.
> I understand the problem with your "prerecorded program" but
> in the past year there have been some prerecorded programs,
> "Money and Mortgage" comes to mind that WERE NOT what they
> presented themselves to be in terms of finance. In fact M&M"
> has had some bad press about their dealings. Bizradio
> apparently is very leery of any Preproduced programs unless
> it was from Bloomberg,or the Wall Street Journal. The Dallas
> listners are present ( not employees or owners of
> Bizradio),but as I said before they are not interested in
> ratings. If they were not doing well,they would not have
> celebrated one year in existencejust recently, plus they are
> currently working on expansion. Perhaps you should have
> dealt directly with Brent,not Dan,then your point of view
> would be more favorable towards Bizradio.
>
I wasn't talking about pre-recorded programs. I just wanted to put on my pre-recorded :60 second commercial spots that I run on 10 other stations in Houston to tremendous success. I did not appreciate that Frishberg tried to tell me about advertising when I have been in the business for over 20 years producing countless commercials and winning several awards. My clients were certainly not impressed with Frishberg's bragging on how smart and rich he is or thinks he is. I was turned off by the whole experience and will most likely never give them a shot at my business again. No other agencies in Houston will deal with them either, but mostly because they have no experienced sales staff. I would have dealt with Brent, but he is not the advertising sales person over there. I began my dealings with one of their very experienced sales people that knew more about media than anybody over there, including Brent. He was the one in fact that introduced me to BizRadio with enthusiasm. He left the station last summer after he had enough of the "amateur hour". When I went to visit him at the station I was to meet the sales manager, a guy named Jack who immediately introduced me to Frishberg who then proceeded to offend me, my client and the sales manager. Brent was in the office, but did not come out to get involved. The rest is history. I wish BizRadio success because I love the format, but they really do need some experienced media folks running the show, extending the broadcast day, programming some INTERESTING business topics and NOT offending their potential clients. You mentioned the one year anniversary success. As I mentioned earlier, they should reach 2 years if what Frishberg says is true; that they can go advertiser free for 3 years with their investor's money. As for expansion, there is no way. They are over their heads in Dallas. In Houston they have very few advertisers. Clients that should be on their station, despite the lack of ratings, are staying away in droves. In Dallas I know they have even fewer adverisers and as any credible radio or TV exec knows, if you can't pay you can't play. Bottom-line, if they cannot recruit experienced media folks (both ad reps and production folks) they don't have a chance. I was so passionate about a business format that I have been approached by some of my peers to form a group to develop the format on another signal with some real broadcast folks running the show. I don't have time for that, but I do hope that some group can put together a CNBC type business format for radio. Like I said before, Frishberg had a great idea, but he absolutely cannot execute it.

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

> > > > > Does anyone in Dallas even know that this station
> > > exists?
> > > >
> > > > > Does anyone think there will be a future for this
> > > station
> > > > or
> > > > > format in Dallas?
> > > > >
> > > > Yes. The advertising is doing well and they are
> > expanding
> > > > into other markets. La, Philly,New York. They are
> > already
> > > in
> > > > Dallas and Houston. They are not concerned with
> ratings
> > > only
> > > > serving the business community to which they are.
> Shows
> > > Like
> > > > "The Latino Business Hour"and The Vince Rowe "show are
>
> > > VERY
> > > > popular in the downtown Business district,their core
> > > > audience. Some other shows should take it upon
> > themselves
> > > to
> > > > market themselves better as these two have. Sales have
>
> > > > increased since they started in Houston a year ago.
> the
> > > > Dallas Morning News, Dallas Business Journal, and
> other
> > > > publications have done many articles about
> Bizradio,all
> > > > positive. The future is bright for the way they are
> > > > structured,and the format is unique and exclusive in
> > > Houston
> > > > and Dallas.
> > > >
> > > > Looking at your Houston Posts, I would say you were a
> > > former
> > > > employee,host or advertiser with BIZRADIO. One
> > > misconception
> > > > to clear up,the Dallas salespersons you alluded
> to,were
> > > > making "side deals" and were making promises their
> > checks
> > > > could'nt cash. They were asked to leave and the sales
> > > > persons who have replaced them are bringing in more
> > > revenue.
> > > >
> > > Actually I attempted to get a couple of my clients on
> the
> > > Houston station last year. I love the format and wish
> > > someone would start a Business station with what
> BizRadio
> > > started last year before they altered their programming.
>
> > I
> > > don't know what you're talking about with regards to
> > Dallas
> > > salespeople. My posts stem from a negative experience I
>
> > had
> > > last year when I attempted to put two of my clients on
> the
> >
> > > Houston station. The owner Dan Frishberg offended me
> and
> > my
> > > clients when he tried to tell me how to construct a
> > message
> > > when all I wanted to do was place my pre-produced
> creative
> >
> > > on the station. When I suggested that the sales manager
>
> > get
> > > involved he said he was the sales and station manager
> and
> > > that I should listen to nobody else there. They had a
> > > golden opportunity to generate some ad revenue from an
> > > agency that really did not care about the ratings, but
> > blew
> > > it. I still listen from time-to-time because I love
> > > business talk, but it's hard when they go to a SPORTS
> > > program in the middle of morning drive hosted by a
> > has-been
> > > interviewing Dallas sports has-beens. In Houston, I
> > imagine
> > > any audience they have quickly vanishes and I doubt
> anyone
> >
> > > in Dallas tuning into a BUSINESS station will stay with
> it
> >
> > > when the topic is SPORTS. Isn't there more than one
> sports
> >
> > > station in Dallas already? It sounds to me like you are
> a
> >
> > > BizRadio employee, host or advertiser. It's nice to
> have
> > > press, but as an agency with clients that watch every
> > media
> > > dollar spent I would like to see listeners. Last book I
>
> > saw
> > > in Houston BizRadio was 45th in adults 35+ which is the
> > demo
> > > I was looking at last year. In Dallas I'm sure it's
> worse
> >
> > > with the competition. Get some listeners, then go
> > bragging.
> > > In the meantime please try to program more business
> talk
> > > and try to stay on the air beyond 6PM. It's killing any
>
> > > attemt at credibility.
> > >
> > You make some interesting points. First let me state; No I
>
> > am not an associated with Bizradio. Second,the
> > "salespersons" I mentioned was in response to your post on
>
> > the Houston column. Third I agree and there are some who
> do
> > as well,that a "sports talk"show on Bizradio is not a good
>
> > fit plus The Restaurant Talk with Stevens and Cleverly
> > wasn't either. I wouldn't call Scott a "Has Been" He has
> > moved on in his career and is well connected beyond
> Sports.
> > It is probably due to his connections that he is doing a
> > show on Bizradio. He is knowledgable in many areas beyond
> > sports.
> > I understand the problem with your "prerecorded program"
> but
> > in the past year there have been some prerecorded
> programs,
> > "Money and Mortgage" comes to mind that WERE NOT what they
>
> > presented themselves to be in terms of finance. In fact
> M&M"
> > has had some bad press about their dealings. Bizradio
> > apparently is very leery of any Preproduced programs
> unless
> > it was from Bloomberg,or the Wall Street Journal. The
> Dallas
> > listners are present ( not employees or owners of
> > Bizradio),but as I said before they are not interested in
> > ratings. If they were not doing well,they would not have
> > celebrated one year in existencejust recently, plus they
> are
> > currently working on expansion. Perhaps you should have
> > dealt directly with Brent,not Dan,then your point of view
> > would be more favorable towards Bizradio.
> >
> I wasn't talking about pre-recorded programs. I just wanted
> to put on my pre-recorded :60 second commercial spots that I
> run on 10 other stations in Houston to tremendous success.
> I did not appreciate that Frishberg tried to tell me about
> advertising when I have been in the business for over 20
> years producing countless commercials and winning several
> awards. My clients were certainly not impressed with
> Frishberg's bragging on how smart and rich he is or thinks
> he is. I was turned off by the whole experience and will
> most likely never give them a shot at my business again. No
> other agencies in Houston will deal with them either, but
> mostly because they have no experienced sales staff. I
> would have dealt with Brent, but he is not the advertising
> sales person over there. I began my dealings with one of
> their very experienced sales people that knew more about
> media than anybody over there, including Brent. He was the
> one in fact that introduced me to BizRadio with enthusiasm.
> He left the station last summer after he had enough of the
> "amateur hour". When I went to visit him at the station I
> was to meet the sales manager, a guy named Jack who
> immediately introduced me to Frishberg who then proceeded to
> offend me, my client and the sales manager. Brent was in
> the office, but did not come out to get involved. The rest
> is history. I wish BizRadio success because I love the
> format, but they really do need some experienced media folks
> running the show, extending the broadcast day, programming
> some INTERESTING business topics and NOT offending their
> potential clients. You mentioned the one year anniversary
> success. As I mentioned earlier, they should reach 2 years
> if what Frishberg says is true; that they can go advertiser
> free for 3 years with their investor's money. As for
> expansion, there is no way. They are over their heads in
> Dallas. In Houston they have very few advertisers. Clients
> that should be on their station, despite the lack of
> ratings, are staying away in droves. In Dallas I know they
> have even fewer adverisers and as any credible radio or TV
> exec knows, if you can't pay you can't play. Bottom-line,
> if they cannot recruit experienced media folks (both ad reps
> and production folks) they don't have a chance. I was so
> passionate about a business format that I have been
> approached by some of my peers to form a group to develop
> the format on another signal with some real broadcast folks
> running the show. I don't have time for that, but I do hope
> that some group can put together a CNBC type business format
> for radio. Like I said before, Frishberg had a great idea,
> but he absolutely cannot execute it.
>
OK You make some interesting points again. First off BIZRADIO leases the airtime from Multicultural radio Inc. in Houston,and Dallas. They only want to run programming during daylight hours due to the nightime powering down. After 6p MRBI is in charge. Yes they are expanding as we speak into other large markets.The investment(not just Dan's wallet )is there and will be for a good long run. I understand your arguement against him,and I agree you should not have dealt with him. I agree broadcast professionals should run it.Brent over sees the Houston-Dallas programming and will over see the other markets.If you have noticed major well known advertising agencies in Houston have left or are in process of leaving in this past year. No one has figured out why exactly. Frishberg ran the business radio format on KIKK-AM before Howard was signed on etc. There are some growning pains with Bizradio,no doubt,but it is not in a state of despair as you paint it. Interesting thing about advertisers in Dallas,some are literally pounding on the door to get in,BUT others are being turned away because Bizradio (believe it or not) is being "selective"on who they want and they don't want to over sell like so many stations are doing now. They truly believe "Less is more"in the matter of spots per hour. Case in point; Howard Garrett.He left WBAP when the contract ran out,but among his chief reasons was the over selling of his show did not leave much for the show itself. Same held true when Bill Mack was there. Bizradio wants their programming to have "Programming" not an over abundance of spots. So what you see as an advertiser and I as a person involved on the programming side are 180 degrees in difference
in regards to air time. You see it performing poorly. I see it performing well under the guidelines they want. We can go on and on about this,but it is time to move on. This year will see if either of us is right or wrong.

 

[AliceTheCook]

Sure, there's room for improvement and room to grow. But, for the same reasons given in an earlier thread about KESN vs The Ticket, the business radio format MUST be more than nuts-and-bolts. Listening to a reading of a stock ticker for 12 hours a day is pretty tedious; therefore, I don't think using a MSNBC approach is the answer (much like ESPN's network programming, and earlier attempts at broadcasting the audio of CNN over local stations...both have gone ignored in favor of a local approach.) But sure, it's Frishberg's baby and his call to make, and, for better or worse, it's not much different than all the second-guessing that many of us do with decisions made by other PD's and OM's in the area. I'm sure there's a method to his madness, and it may make certain things happen quickly, and hinder other things from coming together at all. But the on-air product has a certain level of class, and they seem to hit the affluent listener and the corporate types pretty squarely where it counts. For me, I listen occasionally, and usually find something of interest in there. That's more than I can say about a LOT of stations on the dial here.

> OK You make some interesting points again. First off
> BIZRADIO leases the airtime from Multicultural radio Inc. in
> Houston,and Dallas. They only want to run programming during
> daylight hours due to the nightime powering down. After 6p
> MRBI is in charge. Yes they are expanding as we speak into
> other large markets.The investment(not just Dan's wallet )is
> there and will be for a good long run. I understand your
> arguement against him,and I agree you should not have dealt
> with him. I agree broadcast professionals should run
> it.Brent over sees the Houston-Dallas programming and will
> over see the other markets.If you have noticed major well
> known advertising agencies in Houston have left or are in
> process of leaving in this past year. No one has figured out
> why exactly. Frishberg ran the business radio format on
> KIKK-AM before Howard was signed on etc. There are some
> growning pains with Bizradio,no doubt,but it is not in a
> state of despair as you paint it. Interesting thing about
> advertisers in Dallas,some are literally pounding on the
> door to get in,BUT others are being turned away because
> Bizradio (believe it or not) is being "selective"on who they
> want and they don't want to over sell like so many stations
> are doing now. They truly believe "Less is more"in the
> matter of spots per hour. Case in point; Howard Garrett.He
> left WBAP when the contract ran out,but among his chief
> reasons was the over selling of his show did not leave much
> for the show itself. Same held true when Bill Mack was
> there. Bizradio wants their programming to have
> "Programming" not an over abundance of spots. So what you
> see as an advertiser and I as a person involved on the
> programming side are 180 degrees in difference
> in regards to air time. You see it performing poorly. I see
> it performing well under the guidelines they want. We can
> go on and on about this,but it is time to move on. This year
> will see if either of us is right or wrong.
>

 

[adguy]

> Sure, there's room for improvement and room to grow. But,
> for the same reasons given in an earlier thread about KESN
> vs The Ticket, the business radio format MUST be more than
> nuts-and-bolts. Listening to a reading of a stock ticker
> for 12 hours a day is pretty tedious; therefore, I don't
> think using a MSNBC approach is the answer (much like ESPN's
> network programming, and earlier attempts at broadcasting
> the audio of CNN over local stations...both have gone
> ignored in favor of a local approach.) But sure, it's
> Frishberg's baby and his call to make, and, for better or
> worse, it's not much different than all the second-guessing
> that many of us do with decisions made by other PD's and
> OM's in the area. I'm sure there's a method to his madness,
> and it may make certain things happen quickly, and hinder
> other things from coming together at all. But the on-air
> product has a certain level of class, and they seem to hit
> the affluent listener and the corporate types pretty
> squarely where it counts. For me, I listen occasionally,
> and usually find something of interest in there. That's
> more than I can say about a LOT of stations on the dial
> here.
>
> > OK You make some interesting points again. First off
> > BIZRADIO leases the airtime from Multicultural radio Inc.
> in
> > Houston,and Dallas. They only want to run programming
> during
> > daylight hours due to the nightime powering down. After 6p
>
> > MRBI is in charge. Yes they are expanding as we speak into
>
> > other large markets.The investment(not just Dan's wallet
> )is
> > there and will be for a good long run. I understand your
> > arguement against him,and I agree you should not have
> dealt
> > with him. I agree broadcast professionals should run
> > it.Brent over sees the Houston-Dallas programming and will
>
> > over see the other markets.If you have noticed major well
>
> > known advertising agencies in Houston have left or are in
> > process of leaving in this past year. No one has figured
> out
> > why exactly. Frishberg ran the business radio format on
> > KIKK-AM before Howard was signed on etc. There are some
> > growning pains with Bizradio,no doubt,but it is not in a
> > state of despair as you paint it. Interesting thing about
> > advertisers in Dallas,some are literally pounding on the
> > door to get in,BUT others are being turned away because
> > Bizradio (believe it or not) is being "selective"on who
> they
> > want and they don't want to over sell like so many
> stations
> > are doing now. They truly believe "Less is more"in the
> > matter of spots per hour. Case in point; Howard Garrett.He
>
> > left WBAP when the contract ran out,but among his chief
> > reasons was the over selling of his show did not leave
> much
> > for the show itself. Same held true when Bill Mack was
> > there. Bizradio wants their programming to have
> > "Programming" not an over abundance of spots. So what you
> > see as an advertiser and I as a person involved on the
> > programming side are 180 degrees in difference
> > in regards to air time. You see it performing poorly. I
> see
> > it performing well under the guidelines they want. We can
>
> > go on and on about this,but it is time to move on. This
> year
> > will see if either of us is right or wrong.
> >
>
Frishberg never ran 650 AM. Infinity (now CBS) would never let someone of Frishberg's level of media knowledge have anything to do with business decisions of a radio station. In fact, Brent Clanton was not even the GM there. He was PD from my recollection. Yes, they are picky with advertisers, but they still ran my client, a perfect fit for the station, off. As for people knocking down the doors to get on, I don't hear them on air. When I listen I hear the same 3 advertisers each and every time. With a lease payment of $65K/month in Houston and $85K in Dallas from my what my sources tell me they do get enough in brokered time to come close to covering that nut, but they still have employees to pay and equipment to service. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt they'll ever expand as you say and I doubt they'll be on the air 2 years from now.

 

[adguy]

> > Sure, there's room for improvement and room to grow. But,
>
> > for the same reasons given in an earlier thread about KESN
>
> > vs The Ticket, the business radio format MUST be more than
>
> > nuts-and-bolts. Listening to a reading of a stock ticker
> > for 12 hours a day is pretty tedious; therefore, I don't
> > think using a MSNBC approach is the answer (much like
> ESPN's
> > network programming, and earlier attempts at broadcasting
> > the audio of CNN over local stations...both have gone
> > ignored in favor of a local approach.) But sure, it's
> > Frishberg's baby and his call to make, and, for better or
> > worse, it's not much different than all the
> second-guessing
> > that many of us do with decisions made by other PD's and
> > OM's in the area. I'm sure there's a method to his
> madness,
> > and it may make certain things happen quickly, and hinder
> > other things from coming together at all. But the on-air
> > product has a certain level of class, and they seem to hit
>
> > the affluent listener and the corporate types pretty
> > squarely where it counts. For me, I listen occasionally,
> > and usually find something of interest in there. That's
> > more than I can say about a LOT of stations on the dial
> > here.
> >
> > > OK You make some interesting points again. First off
> > > BIZRADIO leases the airtime from Multicultural radio
> Inc.
> > in
> > > Houston,and Dallas. They only want to run programming
> > during
> > > daylight hours due to the nightime powering down. After
> 6p
> >
> > > MRBI is in charge. Yes they are expanding as we speak
> into
> >
> > > other large markets.The investment(not just Dan's wallet
>
> > )is
> > > there and will be for a good long run. I understand your
>
> > > arguement against him,and I agree you should not have
> > dealt
> > > with him. I agree broadcast professionals should run
> > > it.Brent over sees the Houston-Dallas programming and
> will
> >
> > > over see the other markets.If you have noticed major
> well
> >
> > > known advertising agencies in Houston have left or are
> in
> > > process of leaving in this past year. No one has figured
>
> > out
> > > why exactly. Frishberg ran the business radio format on
> > > KIKK-AM before Howard was signed on etc. There are some
> > > growning pains with Bizradio,no doubt,but it is not in a
>
> > > state of despair as you paint it. Interesting thing
> about
> > > advertisers in Dallas,some are literally pounding on the
>
> > > door to get in,BUT others are being turned away because
> > > Bizradio (believe it or not) is being "selective"on who
> > they
> > > want and they don't want to over sell like so many
> > stations
> > > are doing now. They truly believe "Less is more"in the
> > > matter of spots per hour. Case in point; Howard
> Garrett.He
> >
> > > left WBAP when the contract ran out,but among his chief
> > > reasons was the over selling of his show did not leave
> > much
> > > for the show itself. Same held true when Bill Mack was
> > > there. Bizradio wants their programming to have
> > > "Programming" not an over abundance of spots. So what
> you
> > > see as an advertiser and I as a person involved on the
> > > programming side are 180 degrees in difference
> > > in regards to air time. You see it performing poorly. I
>
> > see
> > > it performing well under the guidelines they want. We
> can
> >
> > > go on and on about this,but it is time to move on. This
> > year
> > > will see if either of us is right or wrong.
> > >
> >
> Frishberg never ran 650 AM. Infinity (now CBS) would never
> let someone of Frishberg's level of media knowledge have
> anything to do with business decisions of a radio station.
> In fact, Brent Clanton was not even the GM there. He was PD
> from my recollection. Yes, they are picky with
> advertisers, but they still ran my client, a perfect fit for
> the station, off. As for people knocking down the doors to
> get on, I don't hear them on air. When I listen I hear the
> same 3 advertisers each and every time. With a lease
> payment of $65K/month in Houston and $85K in Dallas from my
> what my sources tell me they do get enough in brokered time
> to come close to covering that nut, but they still have
> employees to pay and equipment to service. I hope I'm
> wrong, but I doubt they'll ever expand as you say and I
> doubt they'll be on the air 2 years from now.

As for major agencies leaving Houston, it's no secret to why. The major oil companies have mostly gone in house with their marketing departments and taken over the duties their advertising agencies once did. Houston is more of a B to B city where the major retail ad agencies serve mostly B to C clients. In fact there was a large article in last Sunday's Houston Chronicle on this very subject. What has happened is a realignment of local ad agencies from a few large shops to many "micro shops" as I call them, mine being one of them. All with low overhead and only a couple of specialized accounts. It affords a station like BizRadio an incredible opportunity to work with agency principals and not tired old conservative, let's buy the top 5 stations, media departments of large agencies. Professional media buyers and planners still offer the best advise to these micro agencies, but dealing with them is much easier with a relationship these days and that relationship is easier to forge with smaller groups of principals instead of the old agency beaurocracies. BizRadio sales people need to understand this and go out and meet these principals and strike up relationships. Going to Chamber of Commerce meetings in hopes of finding advertisers with little media savvy that won't question their core listening audience can only take a station so far. They will need to find agency dollars if they want to survive, but they need sales people and managers that know how to work it. Right now their sales managers have no media experience and Frishberg's idea to getting money is to hire very attractive women, all without media or sales experience, to try to lure male business owners to his station. I don't say that to be coy, I state that as a matter of fact. You find so many stations around the country that have no ratings say that ratings don't matter. As an agent to my clients buying media I would never purchase a station that cannot produce a large enough listening audience to justify any buy, no matter how targeted. In BizRadio's case I can strap a billboard over my head and roller skate through Highland Park and reach more people than BizRadio according to Arbitron. I don't care what anybody says about how rating don't matter, that's all that should matter to anyone wanting to spend money on any media outlet. That's the only way you know you are getting value for your dollar. From what I have heard from other people who have tried BizRadio, their phones did not ring from the advertising nor did the sales meters spike. Without that what do you have?
>

 

[easttxtv]

> >
> Yes. they are expanding
> into other markets. La, Philly,New York.

Anyone know a timetable on these expansions?

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Re: BizRadio 1360 Ok My last statement on this

> > > Sure, there's room for improvement and room to grow.
> But,
> >
> > > for the same reasons given in an earlier thread about
> KESN
> >
> > > vs The Ticket, the business radio format MUST be more
> than
> >
> > > nuts-and-bolts. Listening to a reading of a stock
> ticker
> > > for 12 hours a day is pretty tedious; therefore, I don't
>
> > > think using a MSNBC approach is the answer (much like
> > ESPN's
> > > network programming, and earlier attempts at
> broadcasting
> > > the audio of CNN over local stations...both have gone
> > > ignored in favor of a local approach.) But sure, it's
> > > Frishberg's baby and his call to make, and, for better
> or
> > > worse, it's not much different than all the
> > second-guessing
> > > that many of us do with decisions made by other PD's and
>
> > > OM's in the area. I'm sure there's a method to his
> > madness,
> > > and it may make certain things happen quickly, and
> hinder
> > > other things from coming together at all. But the
> on-air
> > > product has a certain level of class, and they seem to
> hit
> >
> > > the affluent listener and the corporate types pretty
> > > squarely where it counts. For me, I listen
> occasionally,
> > > and usually find something of interest in there. That's
>
> > > more than I can say about a LOT of stations on the dial
> > > here.
> > >
> > > > OK You make some interesting points again. First off
> > > > BIZRADIO leases the airtime from Multicultural radio
> > Inc.
> > > in
> > > > Houston,and Dallas. They only want to run programming
> > > during
> > > > daylight hours due to the nightime powering down.
> After
> > 6p
> > >
> > > > MRBI is in charge. Yes they are expanding as we speak
> > into
> > >
> > > > other large markets.The investment(not just Dan's
> wallet
> >
> > > )is
> > > > there and will be for a good long run. I understand
> your
> >
> > > > arguement against him,and I agree you should not have
> > > dealt
> > > > with him. I agree broadcast professionals should run
> > > > it.Brent over sees the Houston-Dallas programming and
> > will
> > >
> > > > over see the other markets.If you have noticed major
> > well
> > >
> > > > known advertising agencies in Houston have left or are
>
> > in
> > > > process of leaving in this past year. No one has
> figured
> >
> > > out
> > > > why exactly. Frishberg ran the business radio format
> on
> > > > KIKK-AM before Howard was signed on etc. There are
> some
> > > > growning pains with Bizradio,no doubt,but it is not in
> a
> >
> > > > state of despair as you paint it. Interesting thing
> > about
> > > > advertisers in Dallas,some are literally pounding on
> the
> >
> > > > door to get in,BUT others are being turned away
> because
> > > > Bizradio (believe it or not) is being "selective"on
> who
> > > they
> > > > want and they don't want to over sell like so many
> > > stations
> > > > are doing now. They truly believe "Less is more"in the
>
> > > > matter of spots per hour. Case in point; Howard
> > Garrett.He
> > >
> > > > left WBAP when the contract ran out,but among his
> chief
> > > > reasons was the over selling of his show did not
> leave
> > > much
> > > > for the show itself. Same held true when Bill Mack was
>
> > > > there. Bizradio wants their programming to have
> > > > "Programming" not an over abundance of spots. So what
> > you
> > > > see as an advertiser and I as a person involved on the
>
> > > > programming side are 180 degrees in difference
> > > > in regards to air time. You see it performing poorly.
> I
> >
> > > see
> > > > it performing well under the guidelines they want. We
>
> > can
> > >
> > > > go on and on about this,but it is time to move on.
> This
> > > year
> > > > will see if either of us is right or wrong.
> > > >
> > >
> > Frishberg never ran 650 AM. Infinity (now CBS) would
> never
> > let someone of Frishberg's level of media knowledge have
> > anything to do with business decisions of a radio station.
>
> > In fact, Brent Clanton was not even the GM there. He was
> PD
> > from my recollection. Yes, they are picky with
> > advertisers, but they still ran my client, a perfect fit
> for
> > the station, off. As for people knocking down the doors
> to
> > get on, I don't hear them on air. When I listen I hear
> the
> > same 3 advertisers each and every time. With a lease
> > payment of $65K/month in Houston and $85K in Dallas from
> my
> > what my sources tell me they do get enough in brokered
> time
> > to come close to covering that nut, but they still have
> > employees to pay and equipment to service. I hope I'm
> > wrong, but I doubt they'll ever expand as you say and I
> > doubt they'll be on the air 2 years from now.
>
> As for major agencies leaving Houston, it's no secret to
> why. The major oil companies have mostly gone in house with
> their marketing departments and taken over the duties their
> advertising agencies once did. Houston is more of a B to B
> city where the major retail ad agencies serve mostly B to C
> clients. In fact there was a large article in last Sunday's
> Houston Chronicle on this very subject. What has happened
> is a realignment of local ad agencies from a few large shops
> to many "micro shops" as I call them, mine being one of
> them. All with low overhead and only a couple of
> specialized accounts. It affords a station like BizRadio an
> incredible opportunity to work with agency principals and
> not tired old conservative, let's buy the top 5 stations,
> media departments of large agencies. Professional media
> buyers and planners still offer the best advise to these
> micro agencies, but dealing with them is much easier with a
> relationship these days and that relationship is easier to
> forge with smaller groups of principals instead of the old
> agency beaurocracies. BizRadio sales people need to
> understand this and go out and meet these principals and
> strike up relationships. Going to Chamber of Commerce
> meetings in hopes of finding advertisers with little media
> savvy that won't question their core listening audience can
> only take a station so far. They will need to find agency
> dollars if they want to survive, but they need sales people
> and managers that know how to work it. Right now their
> sales managers have no media experience and Frishberg's idea
> to getting money is to hire very attractive women, all
> without media or sales experience, to try to lure male
> business owners to his station. I don't say that to be coy,
> I state that as a matter of fact. You find so many stations
> around the country that have no ratings say that ratings
> don't matter. As an agent to my clients buying media I would
> never purchase a station that cannot produce a large enough
> listening audience to justify any buy, no matter how
> targeted. In BizRadio's case I can strap a billboard over
> my head and roller skate through Highland Park and reach
> more people than BizRadio according to Arbitron. I don't
> care what anybody says about how rating don't matter, that's
> all that should matter to anyone wanting to spend money on
> any media outlet. That's the only way you know you are
> getting value for your dollar. From what I have heard from
> other people who have tried BizRadio, their phones did not
> ring from the advertising nor did the sales meters spike.
> Without that what do you have?
> >
>
Frishberg had a hand in the busines format at KIKK-am.I never claimed Brent was a GM there.I am not sure of your sources in regards to lease payments,employee cost,etc.but Bizradio can well afford it for awhile. The more I read your posts in regards to BiZRADIO I detect bitterness of not advertising on it. The remark about Frishberg's idea
" to getting money is to hire very attractive women" has been the norm for almost any radio station,TV station plus marketing in general for any other occupation. Do you think GM,Toyota,Microsoft would want to have a middle age or (older)"paunchy"looking woman in a pantsuit display their product at trade shows?If so,please show me where. I have heard from advertisers as well who are in direct opposition to yours whose phones have rang in regards to advertising on Bizradio. It depends on the product and its usefulness to an individual consumer,not the seller. If you "strap a billboard on your head and roller skate through Highland Park" that would certainly get attention considering how strict their ordinances are and a mention would be made in the news as you bail out of jail. I agree ratings are important,but I have seen successful operations where they didn't care where they placed in the ratings. Their niche audience was there and loyal. I suggest,(and you probably have)just move on and advertise elsewhere and get over Frishberg. BIZRADIO is here and will be for long while.

 

[adguy]

Re: BizRadio 1360 Ok My last statement on this

> > > > Sure, there's room for improvement and room to grow.
> > But,
> > >
> > > > for the same reasons given in an earlier thread about
> > KESN
> > >
> > > > vs The Ticket, the business radio format MUST be more
> > than
> > >
> > > > nuts-and-bolts. Listening to a reading of a stock
> > ticker
> > > > for 12 hours a day is pretty tedious; therefore, I
> don't
> >
> > > > think using a MSNBC approach is the answer (much like
> > > ESPN's
> > > > network programming, and earlier attempts at
> > broadcasting
> > > > the audio of CNN over local stations...both have gone
> > > > ignored in favor of a local approach.) But sure, it's
>
> > > > Frishberg's baby and his call to make, and, for better
>
> > or
> > > > worse, it's not much different than all the
> > > second-guessing
> > > > that many of us do with decisions made by other PD's
> and
> >
> > > > OM's in the area. I'm sure there's a method to his
> > > madness,
> > > > and it may make certain things happen quickly, and
> > hinder
> > > > other things from coming together at all. But the
> > on-air
> > > > product has a certain level of class, and they seem to
>
> > hit
> > >
> > > > the affluent listener and the corporate types pretty
> > > > squarely where it counts. For me, I listen
> > occasionally,
> > > > and usually find something of interest in there.
> That's
> >
> > > > more than I can say about a LOT of stations on the
> dial
> > > > here.
> > > >
> > > > > OK You make some interesting points again. First off
>
> > > > > BIZRADIO leases the airtime from Multicultural radio
>
> > > Inc.
> > > > in
> > > > > Houston,and Dallas. They only want to run
> programming
> > > > during
> > > > > daylight hours due to the nightime powering down.
> > After
> > > 6p
> > > >
> > > > > MRBI is in charge. Yes they are expanding as we
> speak
> > > into
> > > >
> > > > > other large markets.The investment(not just Dan's
> > wallet
> > >
> > > > )is
> > > > > there and will be for a good long run. I understand
> > your
> > >
> > > > > arguement against him,and I agree you should not
> have
> > > > dealt
> > > > > with him. I agree broadcast professionals should run
>
> > > > > it.Brent over sees the Houston-Dallas programming
> and
> > > will
> > > >
> > > > > over see the other markets.If you have noticed
> major
> > > well
> > > >
> > > > > known advertising agencies in Houston have left or
> are
> >
> > > in
> > > > > process of leaving in this past year. No one has
> > figured
> > >
> > > > out
> > > > > why exactly. Frishberg ran the business radio format
>
> > on
> > > > > KIKK-AM before Howard was signed on etc. There are
> > some
> > > > > growning pains with Bizradio,no doubt,but it is not
> in
> > a
> > >
> > > > > state of despair as you paint it. Interesting thing
> > > about
> > > > > advertisers in Dallas,some are literally pounding on
>
> > the
> > >
> > > > > door to get in,BUT others are being turned away
> > because
> > > > > Bizradio (believe it or not) is being "selective"on
> > who
> > > > they
> > > > > want and they don't want to over sell like so many
> > > > stations
> > > > > are doing now. They truly believe "Less is more"in
> the
> >
> > > > > matter of spots per hour. Case in point; Howard
> > > Garrett.He
> > > >
> > > > > left WBAP when the contract ran out,but among his
> > chief
> > > > > reasons was the over selling of his show did not
> > leave
> > > > much
> > > > > for the show itself. Same held true when Bill Mack
> was
> >
> > > > > there. Bizradio wants their programming to have
> > > > > "Programming" not an over abundance of spots. So
> what
> > > you
> > > > > see as an advertiser and I as a person involved on
> the
> >
> > > > > programming side are 180 degrees in difference
> > > > > in regards to air time. You see it performing
> poorly.
> > I
> > >
> > > > see
> > > > > it performing well under the guidelines they want.
> We
> >
> > > can
> > > >
> > > > > go on and on about this,but it is time to move on.
> > This
> > > > year
> > > > > will see if either of us is right or wrong.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > Frishberg never ran 650 AM. Infinity (now CBS) would
> > never
> > > let someone of Frishberg's level of media knowledge have
>
> > > anything to do with business decisions of a radio
> station.
> >
> > > In fact, Brent Clanton was not even the GM there. He was
>
> > PD
> > > from my recollection. Yes, they are picky with
> > > advertisers, but they still ran my client, a perfect fit
>
> > for
> > > the station, off. As for people knocking down the doors
>
> > to
> > > get on, I don't hear them on air. When I listen I hear
> > the
> > > same 3 advertisers each and every time. With a lease
> > > payment of $65K/month in Houston and $85K in Dallas from
>
> > my
> > > what my sources tell me they do get enough in brokered
> > time
> > > to come close to covering that nut, but they still have
> > > employees to pay and equipment to service. I hope I'm
> > > wrong, but I doubt they'll ever expand as you say and I
> > > doubt they'll be on the air 2 years from now.
> >
> > As for major agencies leaving Houston, it's no secret to
> > why. The major oil companies have mostly gone in house
> with
> > their marketing departments and taken over the duties
> their
> > advertising agencies once did. Houston is more of a B to
> B
> > city where the major retail ad agencies serve mostly B to
> C
> > clients. In fact there was a large article in last
> Sunday's
> > Houston Chronicle on this very subject. What has happened
>
> > is a realignment of local ad agencies from a few large
> shops
> > to many "micro shops" as I call them, mine being one of
> > them. All with low overhead and only a couple of
> > specialized accounts. It affords a station like BizRadio
> an
> > incredible opportunity to work with agency principals and
> > not tired old conservative, let's buy the top 5 stations,
> > media departments of large agencies. Professional media
> > buyers and planners still offer the best advise to these
> > micro agencies, but dealing with them is much easier with
> a
> > relationship these days and that relationship is easier to
>
> > forge with smaller groups of principals instead of the old
>
> > agency beaurocracies. BizRadio sales people need to
> > understand this and go out and meet these principals and
> > strike up relationships. Going to Chamber of Commerce
> > meetings in hopes of finding advertisers with little media
>
> > savvy that won't question their core listening audience
> can
> > only take a station so far. They will need to find agency
>
> > dollars if they want to survive, but they need sales
> people
> > and managers that know how to work it. Right now their
> > sales managers have no media experience and Frishberg's
> idea
> > to getting money is to hire very attractive women, all
> > without media or sales experience, to try to lure male
> > business owners to his station. I don't say that to be
> coy,
> > I state that as a matter of fact. You find so many
> stations
> > around the country that have no ratings say that ratings
> > don't matter. As an agent to my clients buying media I
> would
> > never purchase a station that cannot produce a large
> enough
> > listening audience to justify any buy, no matter how
> > targeted. In BizRadio's case I can strap a billboard over
>
> > my head and roller skate through Highland Park and reach
> > more people than BizRadio according to Arbitron. I don't
> > care what anybody says about how rating don't matter,
> that's
> > all that should matter to anyone wanting to spend money on
>
> > any media outlet. That's the only way you know you are
> > getting value for your dollar. From what I have heard
> from
> > other people who have tried BizRadio, their phones did not
>
> > ring from the advertising nor did the sales meters spike.
>
> > Without that what do you have?
> > >
> >
> Frishberg had a hand in the busines format at KIKK-am.I
> never claimed Brent was a GM there.I am not sure of your
> sources in regards to lease payments,employee cost,etc.but
> Bizradio can well afford it for awhile. The more I read your
> posts in regards to BiZRADIO I detect bitterness of not
> advertising on it. The remark about Frishberg's idea
> " to getting money is to hire very attractive women" has
> been the norm for almost any radio station,TV station plus
> marketing in general for any other occupation. Do you think
> GM,Toyota,Microsoft would want to have a middle age or
> (older)"paunchy"looking woman in a pantsuit display their
> product at trade shows?If so,please show me where. I have
> heard from advertisers as well who are in direct opposition
> to yours whose phones have rang in regards to advertising on
> Bizradio. It depends on the product and its usefulness to an
> individual consumer,not the seller. If you "strap a
> billboard on your head and roller skate through Highland
> Park" that would certainly get attention considering how
> strict their ordinances are and a mention would be made in
> the news as you bail out of jail. I agree ratings are
> important,but I have seen successful operations where they
> didn't care where they placed in the ratings. Their niche
> audience was there and loyal. I suggest,(and you probably
> have)just move on and advertise elsewhere and get over
> Frishberg. BIZRADIO is here and will be for long while.
>
I suppose my statements were a bit harsh. I did have a bad experience with them, but I do wish them well and if they ever generate a substantial enough audience I would get in touch with someone over there that would know how to handle my business. As I have stated many times, I love the format and would love for it to succeed, if not BizRadio, then somewhere else.

 

[brentclanton]

Re: BizRadio 1360 Ok My last statement on this

> I suppose my statements were a bit harsh. I did have a bad
> experience with them, but I do wish them well and if they
> ever generate a substantial enough audience I would get in
> touch with someone over there that would know how to handle
> my business. As I have stated many times, I love the format
> and would love for it to succeed, if not BizRadio, then
> somewhere else.
>

Ad Guy, I don't know who you are, but there are some obvious misconceptions you harbor that need adjusting. I don't know when you came in to sit with Daniel and Jack (because I don't know who you are.) But instead of spewing negativity and unfounded assumptions, why don't you be a man-guy and give me a call next week?

We/I can't address specific problems if we/I don't know the specifics--like WHO has been offended. It would have been far more productive to learn of this from you directly, rather than sharing the dirty laundry with all to see. By the way, I have some VERY compelling qualitative numbers I can now share with you regarding who is listening that cannot be ignored.

I am out of the office until Wednesday. Kindly call me then. You know the number.

Alice and Kplexcomplex, I appreciate your spirit. Thanks for the thoughtful replies and kind words regarding me. You make me blush.

Out.

 

[adguy]

Re: BizRadio 1360 Ok My last statement on this

> > I suppose my statements were a bit harsh. I did have a
> bad
> > experience with them, but I do wish them well and if they
> > ever generate a substantial enough audience I would get in
>
> > touch with someone over there that would know how to
> handle
> > my business. As I have stated many times, I love the
> format
> > and would love for it to succeed, if not BizRadio, then
> > somewhere else.
> >
>
> Ad Guy, I don't know who you are, but there are some obvious
> misconceptions you harbor that need adjusting. I don't know
> when you came in to sit with Daniel and Jack (because I
> don't know who you are.) But instead of spewing negativity
> and unfounded assumptions, why don't you be a man-guy and
> give me a call next week?
>
> We/I can't address specific problems if we/I don't know the
> specifics--like WHO has been offended. It would have been
> far more productive to learn of this from you directly,
> rather than sharing the dirty laundry with all to see. By
> the way, I have some VERY compelling qualitative numbers I
> can now share with you regarding who is listening that
> cannot be ignored.
>
> I am out of the office until Wednesday. Kindly call me then.
> You know the number.
>
> Alice and Kplexcomplex, I appreciate your spirit. Thanks for
> the thoughtful replies and kind words regarding me. You make
> me blush.
>
> Out.
>
Brent, please check the reply to Blart to Adguy on the Houston board. I thought that might have been you, but that post explains my true feelings.
All the Best,

--Adguy

 

[BBontheRadio]

Re: BizRadio 1360 Ok My last statement on this

> Ad Guy, I don't know who you are, but there are some obvious
> misconceptions you harbor that need adjusting. I don't know
> when you came in to sit with Daniel and Jack (because I
> don't know who you are.) But instead of spewing negativity
> and unfounded assumptions, why don't you be a man-guy and
> give me a call next week?

FWIW, there seems to be an abundance of negativity around this place...
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[brentclanton]

Re: BizRadio 1360 Ok My last statement on this

> FWIW, there seems to be an abundance of negativity around
> this place...

Yeah, what is up with that?

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Re: BizRadio 1360 Ok My last statement on this

> > FWIW, there seems to be an abundance of negativity around
> > this place...
>
> Yeah, what is up with that?
>
Some management decisions removing damn good talent in order to cut costs,as opposed to finding a better salesperson,or removing incompetent management. See CC,and CBS. You still Rock Brent,from Houston to Austin and Dallas. Radio needs more class guys like you.

 

[johndavis]

Re: BizRadio 1360 Ok My last statement on this

> Brent, please check the reply to Blart to Adguy on the
> Houston board. I thought that might have been you, but that
> post explains my true feelings.
> All the Best,
>
> --Adguy

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