Bloodbath at Atlantic

[SoulCrusher]

The real money is in a good quality talk radio station, and that's what they have in WOND. If anything should be placed on the flamethrower that 103.7 WMGM has, it's the WOND format. They have Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, Coast To Coast, and venerable local talent like Pinky Kravitz. Whether or not you agree with what some of them have to say, their talent is wasted on such a weak AM signal. Bring it to a spot where more people can hear it, and the ratings (and ad revenue) will follow.

Beyond that, I think they should tweak 102.7 to more of a dance/rhythmic sound, put alternative rock on 98.3 (and consider bringing back the WJSE calls), and launch an adult standards station on 1400 AM.

 

[sjproducerguy]

The real money is in a good quality talk radio station, and that's what they have in WOND. If anything should be placed on the flamethrower that 103.7 WMGM has, it's the WOND format. They have Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, Coast To Coast, and venerable local talent like Pinky Kravitz. Whether or not you agree with what some of them have to say, their talent is wasted on such a weak AM signal. Bring it to a spot where more people can hear it, and the ratings (and ad revenue) will follow.

Beyond that, I think they should tweak 102.7 to more of a dance/rhythmic sound, put alternative rock on 98.3 (and consider bringing back the WJSE calls), and launch an adult standards station on 1400 AM.

Personally, I see the stations being sold on a cherry-picking basis. If this Nightshadow company succeeds in getting one station, then okay, but getting all of them is just unrealistic unless you're a Clear Channel or something.

 

[d21ofnj]

I think the Kool 98.3 going to dance sounds too good to be true.  There's a better chance for 967party.com to land on W244AS :-D

Well, according to the blog post, they'd kill the format on The Shark and turn that into the dance station.  Either way, a dance station WOULD be nice.

Hey now, I'm all for a dance station too, but at the same time, it needs to get the $$ rolling in if this company is serious.  The format needs to attract that typical "marsha brady" in her 20's with her clique.  I do play a handful of eurodance and new material that's straight out of europe, but the mainstream dance as well as top 40 also needs to play in.  I can see Wild is not their cup of tea, however, the mainstream wont stick to something "underground"

If it's done right, they can bring in the revenue.

But...won't the community raise an uproar if it ever happens, and they DO kill the current Shark format?

When JSE flipped to Wild, the rock alternative fans were shut out since they have nothing.  If flipping The Shark or Kool, at least the other option is ZXL and Wibbage.  I think you would expect more responses to bring back alternative more than a classic rock station going, but giving ZXL the lost Shark fans, but regaining the displaced rock alternative fans.  That is, if JVC is no longer interested in Wild or the rest of the cluster. I would leave wild the way it is or the most move it to 103.7, but if this company you mentioned does purchase this cluster and is 100% on 98.3 or 103.7 going on a full blown dance station, I recommend that at least fill another format hole and have modern rock or alternative back.

 

[Zackster]

Do you guys ever research anything? Here is an article about your so-called buyer ...

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Michael_Crook

 

[d21ofnj]

The real money is in a good quality talk radio station, and that's what they have in WOND. If anything should be placed on the flamethrower that 103.7 WMGM has, it's the WOND format. They have Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, Coast To Coast, and venerable local talent like Pinky Kravitz. Whether or not you agree with what some of them have to say, their talent is wasted on such a weak AM signal. Bring it to a spot where more people can hear it, and the ratings (and ad revenue) will follow.

Beyond that, I think they should tweak 102.7 to more of a dance/rhythmic sound, put alternative rock on 98.3 (and consider bringing back the WJSE calls), and launch an adult standards station on 1400 AM.

What would go or happen to 1490am then?

 

[d21ofnj]

Do you guys ever research anything? Here is an article about your so-called buyer ...

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Michael_Crook

Sounds like someone has an axe to grind with him. :

 

[sjproducerguy]

Do you guys ever research anything? Here is an article about your so-called buyer ...

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Michael_Crook

Sounds like someone has an axe to grind with him. :

LOL, yeah...looks like a pretty impartial and childish article..besides, even if all this is true, if he's started his own business then at least he's getting his act together. In any event, it'll be interesting to see who buys the stations...whoever that may be.

 

[Who Cares]

sjproducerguy - the whole point is that Brett didn't do it. Yeah, he and his cohorts managed to "convince" investors and a bank to give/loan them the money to buy what is now Atlantic. Then, said inexperienced group ran the cluster into the ground so far it's likely China can hear the stations (that's a joke, albeit a bad one, so please don't try to dispute this).

So, regardless of if Blogger Boy Wonder is a solid business person, he would have to have total cash to purchase even just one station of the group. NO bank and NO investors will lend/give anyone money having to do with the freak show that is Atlantic. Especially not to an entity that has ZERO experience in owning radio stations. We've all publicly seen what that looks like.

What you did was see the rantings of someone who thinks he's important enough to have an opinion that people would give a s**t about...and you fell right into it. He now has more than 15 minutes of semi-fame (let's be real, this board is local and read by the same hundred people in NJ radio, it won't make anyone famous) thanks to you, and me for engaging you in this idiocy.

You did say one thing I agree with, however. It will be interesting to see who buys these stations.

Oh, and Merry Christmas.

 

[GSP163]

One thing that scares me is that a company like EMF might come in and buy these stations.....They just got 2 stations in Delmarva and will be going religious very soon.......If they do come to AC get ready for formats like K-Love & Air-1.

 

[dlewin]

You are so right!!!.. THINK ABOUT IT people!, IT REALLY looks like JVC is going to buy it... and in the end pay way less then what they started with!

Something's not right here.

The investors replaced management teams 10 months ago. In just ten months, payables triple...and that's with a jersey shore summer season, when everyone makes money. I might expect this from a management team that is inexperienced or incompetent, but the investors bring in the principles of JVC, who run a very successful cluster of their own and are no strangers to profitable radio. An additional million in debt in just ten months? Is this possible, with seasoned radio managers? And now Chapter 11, and the assets are up for sale. Would you say the JVC team did a bad job managing this cluster?

Now, let's say the Atlantic assets get bought up at the fire sale price of, say 2.5 or 3 million by, oh lets say JVC itself. Now, they own a 50k and two 6k FMs and 2 AMs, two tower sites and a 3 story commercial office building in Linwood, with no payables save their investment. NOW, would you say that the JVC team did a bad job, or did they just pull off the deal of the year?

Just wondering. It will be interesting to see who ends up with these stations. If it's JVC...well then I will feel sorry for Sun Bank and the original investors. They just got fleeced.

 

[sjproducerguy]

sjproducerguy - the whole point is that Brett didn't do it. Yeah, he and his cohorts managed to "convince" investors and a bank to give/loan them the money to buy what is now Atlantic. Then, said inexperienced group ran the cluster into the ground so far it's likely China can hear the stations (that's a joke, albeit a bad one, so please don't try to dispute this).

So, regardless of if Blogger Boy Wonder is a solid business person, he would have to have total cash to purchase even just one station of the group. NO bank and NO investors will lend/give anyone money having to do with the freak show that is Atlantic. Especially not to an entity that has ZERO experience in owning radio stations. We've all publicly seen what that looks like.

What you did was see the rantings of someone who thinks he's important enough to have an opinion that people would give a s**t about...and you fell right into it. He now has more than 15 minutes of semi-fame (let's be real, this board is local and read by the same hundred people in NJ radio, it won't make anyone famous) thanks to you, and me for engaging you in this idiocy.

You did say one thing I agree with, however. It will be interesting to see who buys these stations.

Oh, and Merry Christmas.

Oh, maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, but IF Nightshadow were to pull off even ONE station, they can't possibly do worse than the current management has.

 

[Ned Braden]

Yeah - because the market is pounding down the door, screaming for Euro - trance - dance music...

 

[sjproducerguy]

Yeah - because the market is pounding down the door, screaming for Euro - trance - dance music...

Fair enough, but Boss 97 DID do rather well when it played dance music, did it not? I think anything that targets a niche audience is a good thing.

 

[Ned Braden]

BOSS 97 was a great station - for the time that it was on the air. Everyone seems to forget that the reason stations flip are because, for one reason or another, they're not generating any income. The radio landscape has changed, along with the music, since the heyday of BOSS 97. I think it's great that there is such a fondness for BOSS, but if it were something that one owner or another thought would work in being brought back, it would've been done already. Radio in 2010 doesn't have enough of a demand or following on a format to generate a grass roots campaign to bring it back on the air. If people want to relive the days of BOSS 97, they simply go to their iPod and pull up their nostalgic playlist. It's sad...very sad for those of us who want to try and make a difference in radio these days...but it's true.

 

[sjproducerguy]

BOSS 97 was a great station - for the time that it was on the air. Everyone seems to forget that the reason stations flip are because, for one reason or another, they're not generating any income. The radio landscape has changed, along with the music, since the heyday of BOSS 97. I think it's great that there is such a fondness for BOSS, but if it were something that one owner or another thought would work in being brought back, it would've been done already. Radio in 2010 doesn't have enough of a demand or following on a format to generate a grass roots campaign to bring it back on the air. If people want to relive the days of BOSS 97, they simply go to their iPod and pull up their nostalgic playlist. It's sad...very sad for those of us who want to try and make a difference in radio these days...but it's true.

Yeah, making a difference is a nice idea, but not a revenue-generating one. At least if this one company gets it, they act as if they'll make WOND more prominent. The music stations, let's face it, the world isn't going to end if they change formats or even go off the air.

 

[Jukebox Zero]

Oh, maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, but IF Nightshadow were to pull off even ONE station, they can't possibly do worse than the current management has.

Wrong. Michael Crook is a clown who has ZERO experience in radio. He WAS a glorified board-op. He now spends his time blogging about teenagers who die in car crashes in South Jersey in an attempt to use their death for his own personal gain.

The investors at Atlantic had hands on experience in radio, something Michael Clown does not. The investors at Atlantic (Paul Kelly, Joe Borcello, Mike Ferriola, Brett Denafo) had worked in radio for years. They all brought a different aspect of the business to the table. Paul- Programming and On-Air / Mike - Engineering / Joe - On Air and Promotions / Brett - How to steal an ass load of money and almost get away with it.

No, they did not do a good job running the company, in fact, they did a TERRIBLE job running that company. But to say someone with ZERO radio experience couldn't do worse, might be the MOST retarded statement of the year. Michael Clown wouldn't know where to start. Those stations have been circling the drain for the past year. It will take a solid company with some serious money, patience, talent and a knack for the business to right the ship. Michael Clown has none of those qualities.

Now, please stop posting about this ass clown in every thread. It's annoying. We get it. You have some sort of personal tie to this butt hugger, but please, stop turning every thread into a billboard for this tard's website. He's not going to buy any of the stations, nor does he have funding or intelligence to do so.

 

[sjproducerguy]

Oh, maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, but IF Nightshadow were to pull off even ONE station, they can't possibly do worse than the current management has.

Wrong. Michael Crook is a clown who has ZERO experience in radio. He WAS a glorified board-op. He now spends his time blogging about teenagers who die in car crashes in South Jersey in an attempt to use their death for his own personal gain.

The investors at Atlantic had hands on experience in radio, something Michael Clown does not. The investors at Atlantic (Paul Kelly, Joe Borcello, Mike Ferriola, Brett Denafo) had worked in radio for years. They all brought a different aspect of the business to the table. Paul- Programming and On-Air / Mike - Engineering / Joe - On Air and Promotions / Brett - How to steal an ass load of money and almost get away with it.

No, they did not do a good job running the company, in fact, they did a TERRIBLE job running that company. But to say someone with ZERO radio experience couldn't do worse, might be the MOST retarded statement of the year. Michael Clown wouldn't know where to start. Those stations have been circling the drain for the past year. It will take a solid company with some serious money, patience, talent and a knack for the business to right the ship. Michael Clown has none of those qualities.

Now, please stop posting about this ass clown in every thread. It's annoying. We get it. You have some sort of personal tie to this butt hugger, but please, stop turning every thread into a billboard for this tard's website. He's not going to buy any of the stations, nor does he have funding or intelligence to do so.

I have no ties whatsoever, and you seem to have a lot of anger in your heart. You must be a bitter Atlantic employee who has either lost or will lose his job.

 

[Jukebox Zero]

Oh, maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, but IF Nightshadow were to pull off even ONE station, they can't possibly do worse than the current management has.

Wrong. Michael Crook is a clown who has ZERO experience in radio. He WAS a glorified board-op. He now spends his time blogging about teenagers who die in car crashes in South Jersey in an attempt to use their death for his own personal gain.

The investors at Atlantic had hands on experience in radio, something Michael Clown does not. The investors at Atlantic (Paul Kelly, Joe Borcello, Mike Ferriola, Brett Denafo) had worked in radio for years. They all brought a different aspect of the business to the table. Paul- Programming and On-Air / Mike - Engineering / Joe - On Air and Promotions / Brett - How to steal an ass load of money and almost get away with it.

No, they did not do a good job running the company, in fact, they did a TERRIBLE job running that company. But to say someone with ZERO radio experience couldn't do worse, might be the MOST retarded statement of the year. Michael Clown wouldn't know where to start. Those stations have been circling the drain for the past year. It will take a solid company with some serious money, patience, talent and a knack for the business to right the ship. Michael Clown has none of those qualities.

Now, please stop posting about this ass clown in every thread. It's annoying. We get it. You have some sort of personal tie to this butt hugger, but please, stop turning every thread into a billboard for this tard's website. He's not going to buy any of the stations, nor does he have funding or intelligence to do so.

I have no ties whatsoever, and you seem to have a lot of anger in your heart. You must be a bitter Atlantic employee who has either lost or will lose his job.

Wrong.

I've never worked at Atlantic nor do I now. But when you make ridiculous statements, expect someone to call you out on them.

To reiterate, Brett and his crew did a terrible job running Atlantic. But to say that someone with ZERO radio experience could do a better job than a group of people who have worked in the industry, just shows your lack of intelligence.

It's a shame what happened to the cluster Howard Green put together. There are a lot of people who are out of work or are about to be out of work because of the mishandling by the crook Denafo and his associates.

 

[Who Cares]

sjproducer guy - why is it that everyone who posts against your idea, and there are many, is automatically labeled a frustrated and/or former Atlantic employee? You're ridiculous with that stuff. What's happened to Atlantic is highly documented. It's in the paper, the boards, the internet, everywhere. It's a matter of public course. Some people on this board are happy that it happened to Brett, some sad that it happened to South Jersey radio. No one is happy that people were fired or laid off due to the complete ineptitude of who was in charge there.

I have, nor will, ever have an affiliation with Atlantic...but I can feel sympathy for the people who were screwed in Atlantic's sinking of the Titanic.

When a guy with a track record like Rich Desisto (PD) is let go days before the book comes out - that's a money issue. Ironically, that book was a great book for the Shark and other Atlantic stations.

When someone with the history and heritage of Barb Larue is handed her walking papers while the Shark is doing well - that's a money issue.

When your morning show on your top rated classic rock station is Sean Patrick (???) - that's CLEARLY a money issue. And of course, he was let go, too.

Point being - if Brett was stealing money (allegedly of course) and people were losing their paychecks and then their jobs as a result...you certainly don't have to be a disgruntled Atlantic employee to feel bad.

 

[sjproducerguy]

sjproducer guy - why is it that everyone who posts against your idea, and there are many, is automatically labeled a frustrated and/or former Atlantic employee? You're ridiculous with that stuff. What's happened to Atlantic is highly documented. It's in the paper, the boards, the internet, everywhere. It's a matter of public course. Some people on this board are happy that it happened to Brett, some sad that it happened to South Jersey radio. No one is happy that people were fired or laid off due to the complete ineptitude of who was in charge there.

I have, nor will, ever have an affiliation with Atlantic...but I can feel sympathy for the people who were screwed in Atlantic's sinking of the Titanic.

When a guy with a track record like Rich Desisto (PD) is let go days before the book comes out - that's a money issue. Ironically, that book was a great book for the Shark and other Atlantic stations.

When someone with the history and heritage of Barb Larue is handed her walking papers while the Shark is doing well - that's a money issue.

When your morning show on your top rated classic rock station is Sean Patrick (???) - that's CLEARLY a money issue. And of course, he was let go, too.

Point being - if Brett was stealing money (allegedly of course) and people were losing their paychecks and then their jobs as a result...you certainly don't have to be a disgruntled Atlantic employee to feel bad.

Well, I can't help but think it is bitterness. Why else would they be so dead set against some local company wanting to take the stations? Whether or not their plan is realistic isn't central to this conversation.

There's a lot of sound business practices in their plans-- reduce the payroll, and reduce the costs.

I would think you'd be happy to see a local interest, but all I'm seeing is snide remarks and hatred. That leads me to believe these comments are coming from bitter Atlantic employees who, if this company were to actually succeed, would apparently be thrown out on their butts. Come to think of it, that would make me bitter too.