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Bloomberg 960 ending October 1

Well I guess either you don't have an HD-Radio or don't live in the area served by KOSF as they discontinued the simulcast of Bloomberg 960 KNEW early this week and the format is clearly identified on that signal as IHeart Sports and More 960 KNEW.

The previous reporting said the Bloomberg LMA ran through the end of September.

iHeartMedia’s KNEW San Francisco (960) will drop Bloomberg Radio programming with the end of the Local Marketing Agreement (LMA) between the two parties expiring at the end of the month.

There hasn't been anything official about dropping Bloomberg earlier than Monday.

Here is a link to one of the programs that are on the format that debuted on KOSF HD-2: Where to Listen to Coast to Coast AM | Coast to Coast AM

That is a link for a conservative talk show, not sports. If you click on the KOSF link, it directs you to KFI in Los Angeles.
 
last thing we need is more conservative talk!! democrats either we need both political parties to get their shit together there is lies propaganda and lies all over the media whatever I heart does with the station it should be independent news or comedy shows or they may as well get the TJ show!
 
Look, as of now, 9:18 am PDT on Friday 9/27, Bloomberg continues airing on 960 KNEW. I'm listening to it now, this minute. They came out of a BBR segment, aired a promo that Bloomberg's gone from 960 as of Tues 10/01, and the only way to continuing hearing BBR in the Bay Area will be via their phone app.

@jpoli is slightly wrong. As I wrote in #265, I stumbled upon 103.7 HD2 on Monday (9/23) afternoon and it was airing a sports format. Someone else (@BigA?) speculated that it was iHeart's own sports format, but I can't confirm that, all I know is the HD2 was sports, no longer BBR, as of Monday last.
 
Someone else (@BigA?) speculated that it was iHeart's own sports format, but I can't confirm that, all I know is the HD2 was sports, no longer BBR, as of Monday last.

Not me. iHeart doesn't have a sports format. They use Fox Sports, which is what they will air here. Apparently the Bloomberg contract was strictly with 960, so the HD-2 was free to flip to anything at anytime.
 
It's Sports!

It's Conservative Talk!

It's BOTH!

We can joke all we want, but KNBR was carrying Rush Limbaugh in 1999 (when I moved to San Francisco). There is a certain logic to that.
 
It's Sports!

It's Conservative Talk!

It's BOTH!
It's about to be the SIXTH station to run a sports format in the Bay Area. (The first five being KNBR-AM & -FM, KGO, KTCT, KGMZ.)

It's about to be the FOURTH (at least) Right-Wing Talk station in the market. (The others I can think of are KSFO, KSTE and KTRB. There are probably more.)

What's that old expression? KNEW is an elephant that was designed by a committee?
 
That's my bad, @BigA. I was thinking of your post #277, but conflated it with @101.9LaKalle's post #280. My fault for not confirming my recollection before hitting the big blue button in the corner.
 
last thing we need is more conservative talk!! democrats either we need both political parties to get their shit together there is lies propaganda and lies all over the media whatever I heart does with the station it should be independent news or comedy shows or they may as well get the TJ show!

That's irrelevant. It all comes down to money.
 
You remember our discussion about KGO's transmitter and towers by the Dumbarton last week? This is a similar situation. 960 has a 3-tower array adjacent to the Bay Bridge toll plaza, and that land is basically useless for anything else. It's protected wetlands, and no governmental authority is likely to approve its use for housing, retail or any other purpose. iHeart may indeed decide to pull the plug on 960, but more likely for operating cost savings rather than any real estate value. And of the stations you mention, both KNBR and KCBS are 50Kw blowtorches *and* have full-signal FM simulcasts. (KSFO is only 5 Kw and without any simulcast, but it's at the low end of the MW spectrum, and their non-directional daytime pattern covers the North Bay, the South Bay and east to Sacramento, so they don't have the same challenges that 960 does.
KSFO is simulcast on KSAN 107.7 HD-2.
 
The previous reporting said the Bloomberg LMA ran through the end of September.



There hasn't been anything official about dropping Bloomberg earlier than Monday.



That is a link for a conservative talk show, not sports. If you click on the KOSF link, it directs you to KFI in Los Angeles.
That's part of the more in IHeart Sports Talk and More, and I don't care about anything official before next week but last night that show was on 103.7 KOSF-HD-2. Another poster noticed this change to the HD-2 simulcast on this past monday afternoon.
 
I don't care about anything official before next week but last night that show was on 103.7 KOSF-HD-2. Another poster noticed this change to the HD-2 simulcast on this past monday afternoon.

The official announcement came out this morning.


As I said in #306, apparently the HD-2 wasn't covered by the Bloomberg LMA, so they can do anything they want.

Not sure why they're running syndicated sports all day, other than to potentially take audience from other sports stations.

Earlier, we suggested they use the station for syndicated talk. There are no stations in the San Francisco running iHeart syndicated talk. The closest station running Clay & Buck is in Sacramento or Modesto. Hannity is even further away. So there are no market conflicts for that programming. Instead there are now two stations running Fox Sports programming.
 
It's Sports!

It's Conservative Talk!

It's BOTH!

It is already on the air on KOSF HD-2 as of Monday afternoon. This line-up has already premiered on KOSF HD-2:
The new weekday lineup for KNEW will feature:
6 a.m. – 9 a.m. The Dan Patrick Show
9 a.m. – 12 p.m. The Herd with Colin Cowherd
12 p.m. – 2 p.m. The Doug Gottleib Show
2 p.m. – 4 p.m. Covino & Rich
4 p.m. – 7 p.m. The Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington
7 p.m. – 10 p.m. The Jesse Kelly Show
10 p.m. – 3 a.m. Coast to Coast with George Norry
3 a.m. – 6 a.m. Your Morning Show with Michael DelGiorno
 
The Radio Insight article has the reason for the odd pairing of sports and conservative talk. It's all about giving these shows clearances in Market #4. Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd and the other Fox Sports shows are popular. Since iHeart is an investor in Fox Sports Radio, KNEW will give the shows exposure in SF. Then at 7 p.m., it switches to Premiere Networks talk shows.

It is an odd situation in SF for syndicated sports and talk due to different owners and contracts...

--KNBR-AM-FM is owned by Cumulus, a part investor in CBS Sports Radio. So that station carries the Fox Sports Radio Network late nights and weekends.

--That prevents Audacy-owned 95.7 KGMZ from carrying CBS Sports Radio, even though Audacy is also linked with that network. After all, it owns multiple sports stations that once were actually owned by CBS and still are affiliates of CBS Sports... WFAN NYC, WSCR Chicago, KRLD-FM Dallas, KDKA-FM Pittsburgh, WZGC Atlanta, KILT Houston, WXYT Detroit. The list is long.

--When KGMZ needed late night and weekend programming, it went with Fox Sports Radio. But KGMZ, a large market sports station, has local SF shows during the day. That means it can't carry Fox Sports' two biggest hosts, Dan Patrick and Colin Cowherd.

--Enter 960 KNEW, no longer leased by Bloomberg. It will carry Fox Sports by day, including Patrick and Cowherd. Then when KGMZ turns on the switch for Fox Sports at 7pm, KNEW will run co-owned Premiere Network's late night and early morning talk show offerings, Jesse Kelly, Coast to Coast AM with George Noory and Michael DelGiorno. (Noory had been on KGO overnight until its switch to Sports Gambling.)
 
It is an odd situation in SF for syndicated sports and talk due to different owners and contracts...

Your well-worded explanation of the situation gave me a headache for a different reason, Gregg ... I flashed back to when the original conversion of the ABC radio network into four "American (fill in the blank) Radio" networks caused a weird juggling act in my home market of Oxnard-Ventura CA:

(I have recounted this in other threads and if you have read it already in one of those threads, please feel free to move on to the next post or thread.)

American Information Radio was the one network that had to be carried live ("News ... of the hour, on the hour") so if a market had an ABC/I affiliate everything revolved around them. In the case of my home market, that was KQIQ.

KVEN was the Entertainment Network, and they didn't want their hourly news to be at the half-hour (for the most part) they delayed it to :55, meaning they were into the local/state portion of their newscast before KQIQ went to the network at :00.

That arrangement forced Contemporary Network affiiate KACY to delay from :55 to :20, which was okay because FM Network affiliate KPMJ was delaying from :15 to :30, apparently not having the same qualms as KVEN about the news being at the half-hour.

There were a few quirky exceptions, mostly in the weekday 6:00am hour. KPMJ aired a paid religious program at 6:30am and so that hour the ABC/FM newscast ran five minutes earlier. That allowed KVEN to carry ABC/E live at 6:30, which in turn gave them a window at 6:55 to run the morning Paul Harvey newscast instead. (The lunchtime Harvey show had to air at 12:05pm, because of ABC/I on KQIQ.)

Also, since KACY didn't carry Howard Cosell's sportscasts, those aired on KVEN, and KQIQ carried both the ABC/I and ABC/E sportscasts, delayed to (I think) :35.

See why the situation in San Francisco gave me flashbacks?

Part of the problem went away when ABC/FM reoriented itself to fit better on the majority of its affiliates, which were AORs. KPMJ, being very MOR, dropped them and picked up Mutual, which had been on KBBQ before they snagged the NBC affiliation when KFI dropped it (and Mutual had been on KVEN for years before switching to ABC/E). The market never got a replacement ABC/FM affiliate and the other three stations continued their carriage patterns until the former KQIQ -- by then, KAAP -- dropped ABC/I after an ownership change in 1981 and KACY dropped ABC/C in the mid-1980s; ABC/C moved to KMYX (for a few years) but by the end of the 80's the only ABC affiliate was KVEN, although by then they were News/Talk and airing the newscast live at :30 a lot of the time.

We never had a CBS affiliate because they were protecting KNX's signal over the market, just as NBC had protected KFI before.

When KPMJ was sold in 1977, there was no Mutual affiliate for about five years when KKBZ picked it up. And that was KAAP after another change in call letters. But they dropped it after a few years as well. (Poor hapless Mutual.) Similarly, NBC disappeared after an ownership change at the former KBBQ (they went through three sets of calls during that decade, and I don't remember which were in effect when they were sold).
 
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The Radio Insight article has the reason for the odd pairing of sports and conservative talk. It's all about giving these shows clearances in Market #4. Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd and the other Fox Sports shows are popular. Since iHeart is an investor in Fox Sports Radio, KNEW will give the shows exposure in SF. Then at 7 p.m., it switches to Premiere Networks talk shows.

It is an odd situation in SF for syndicated sports and talk due to different owners and contracts...

--KNBR-AM-FM is owned by Cumulus, a part investor in CBS Sports Radio. So that station carries the Fox Sports Radio Network late nights and weekends.

--That prevents Audacy-owned 95.7 KGMZ from carrying CBS Sports Radio, even though Audacy is also linked with that network. After all, it owns multiple sports stations that once were actually owned by CBS and still are affiliates of CBS Sports... WFAN NYC, WSCR Chicago, KRLD-FM Dallas, KDKA-FM Pittsburgh, WZGC Atlanta, KILT Houston, WXYT Detroit. The list is long.

--When KGMZ needed late night and weekend programming, it went with Fox Sports Radio. But KGMZ, a large market sports station, has local SF shows during the day. That means it can't carry Fox Sports' two biggest hosts, Dan Patrick and Colin Cowherd.

--Enter 960 KNEW, no longer leased by Bloomberg. It will carry Fox Sports by day, including Patrick and Cowherd. Then when KGMZ turns on the switch for Fox Sports at 7pm, KNEW will run co-owned Premiere Network's late night and early morning talk show offerings, Jesse Kelly, Coast to Coast AM with George Noory and Michael DelGiorno. (Noory had been on KGO overnight until its switch to Sports Gambling.)

Thanks for the info.
 
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