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Blowhard Talk Show Hosts

I've had it with blowhard talk show hosts who don't know what they're talking about. I'm listening to Sandy Beach right now. He blurts out that the City of Buffalo didn't have to engage in deficit financing. WRONG! Sandy, I have news for you. The city, through the Buffalo Fiscal Stability Authority, BORROWED to balance its budgets in 2003-2004 and 2004-2005. Plus, you keep harping on cutting the budget. The county laid off 1,500 employees in March. If that's not cutting, I don't know what is. If you're going to make statements, have the facts to back them up. It's easy for you to sit in your little studio jabbering about what Giambra and the Legislature are doing wrong. I guess that's what you get when you turn your talk show over to a former DJ. At least Bauerle initially came up through the ranks as a newsman. Sandy, you live in Niagara County. So, keep your nose out of our business. Go to work at WJJL. Believe me, I don't like having to pay higher taxes. But I'll gladly give up my extra quarter cent on my purchases to keep county government running for those who need its services.
 
If the sales tax increases, Buffalo is no place for Tourism.
If anything, LOWERING the sales tax will solve the problem.
Raise something else if need be.
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> If the sales tax increases, Buffalo is no place for Tourism.
>
> If anything, LOWERING the sales tax will solve the problem.
> Raise something else if need be.

Well, since a lot of our tourists come from Canada, 8.25% is peanuts compared to the GST, PST, etc. that they pay up there.

Rest assured, the sales tax increase is just the beginning.
 
This is precisely how bad "politicians" um I should say crooks justify their tax inceases year after year. When they are incapable of properly managing money they simply keep taking more away from the working people in an effort to cover up their inability to manage or promote sound fiscal policy.

It's a really sneaky system. As they keep taking a larger percentage of the money out of working people's pockets they wind up creating MORE subjects that will be forced into government subservience and conttol under their programs. It's really quite simple, the more money that goes to the government to waste the less that will be spent at the corner deli, shoe store, supermarket etc. They take away your freedom to live independently and force you into their command and control system.

In some places the valuation on a property has risen to a ridiculous level to the point the actual sale value is tens of thousands of dollars below the "assessed" taxable value. Many people are then forced to sell these homes because they cannot afford to pay the property taxes. Either they wind up owning a home in a poorer community or have to rent an apartment in place of owning a home.

The State of Indiana has not seen a state income tax increase in years. In 1990 the ceiling on their income tax rate was set at 3.4% (and prior to that I believe) and today they are still paying that same rate. Perhaps if the political leaders in WNY could figure out how to manage their budgets without having to create new taxes and raise existing taxes all the time they could turn around the brain drain of college students and loss of existing jobs to areas that are fiscally responsible and offer some employment opportunities.

In the early 1990's the citizens of Jefferson County Colorado became so enraged with the elected officials in their county they threw every last one of them out of office. Reason being? The politicians decided to build a brand new and very expensive Court House without first consulting their constituency on the matter.

New Jersey did something similar at that same time. A bunch of politicians raised taxes and the residents of NJ were not happy with the increase and threw out virtually every politician that voted for the tax increase.

I see some of the same problems in my current state as WNY though thankfully the local town government seems to be fairly well run. But the state is a different matter and they just keep finding ways to stick it to people because they are a bunch of inept managers that don't have the ability to develop sound fiscal policies and attract new industries that will insure a stable future for their young people.

This is a great topic for talk radio and at least you have some local talk programming in your area to discuss these issues. Where I live it is all satellite talk (except for one live morning drive time show but it does not really take calls from listeners) or music stations that devote no time to local issues of concern such as this.



> > If the sales tax increases, Buffalo is no place for
> Tourism.
> >
> > If anything, LOWERING the sales tax will solve the
> problem.
> > Raise something else if need be.
>
> Well, since a lot of our tourists come from Canada, 8.25% is
> peanuts compared to the GST, PST, etc. that they pay up
> there.
>
> Rest assured, the sales tax increase is just the beginning.
>
 
> I'll gladly give up my extra quarter cent on my purchases to
> keep county government running for those who need its
> services.
>
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Rarely does commercial talk radio offer enlightenment and substance in matters such as the present Erie county budget crisis. WBEN, Beach and Bauerle are no exception. As Sister Agnes used to tell her students, “empty barrels make lots of noise.”

Although both men mean well, they’re more adept at posturing and self-promotion than they are discussing the details and ramifications of budget cuts and tax increases. Frequently, they have 90% of the facts 50% of the time. To be fair, Beach and Bauerle are often better informed than the people who call their shows, many of whom sound as if they can’t string three coherent sentences together and are embarrassingly devoid of facts.

Nobody likes paying taxes. To be certain, taxes in New York State are, comparatively speaking, per capita, higher than taxes paid in other states. But cops, teachers, nurses, doctors and firemen have to be paid, roads have to be paved and the sick, indigent and mentally ill have to be cared for.

Because Beach and Bauerle position themselves as “flag waving patriots” (although neither, to my knowledge, has served in the armed forces) they’re prone to protect their friends in high places, certain politicians and advocate sending your sons and daughters to fight a war that is predicated on lies, deception and misinformation. Bauerle has been running interference for Erie County Executive Joel Giambra and posturing as if he was a family member.

The Erie county budget deficit is $118 million this year and projected around $130 million next year. There are approximately seven thousand Erie county employees. Fifteen hundred jobs have been cut in an attempt to reduce costs. Parks have been closed and re-opened, the County Clerk’s office has been reduced to the point that every day operations have adversely affected and the average guy in the street who has to wait in longer lines to get his car or truck registration or license renewed.

State Comptroller Alan Hevesi's review of Erie County's fiscal situation was scathing and all-encompassing. With the possible exception of county comptroller Nancy Naples, no political body was spared. Read the report.

Giambra (especially) and most of the legislators deserved to be publicly excoriated. Hevesi’s report states the political environment in Erie County is “toxic,” and elected officials are in need of “adult supervision.” It’s an indictment of all, and it indirectly but justifiably points a finger at the electorate, which voted for the representatives and the policies that they espoused during their campaigns.

Rarely will you hear Bauerle and Beach discuss the contracts, salaries and benefits of policemen, firemen and sheriffs deputies, however, you will hear them, Bauerle especially, rag, bag and rip the teachers and teachers unions. If the salaries and benefits of one group of public employees are scrutinized, all should be scrutinized equally and fairly.

By a 10 to 5 margin, the Erie County legislature yesterday approved a .25 percent sales tax increase. The vote was bi-partisan. The tax increase will go into effect on July 1 and expire November 2007. Had the sales tax increase not been approved, Erie County may have become insolvent. No money. No bonds. Nothing.

Prior to the vote, approximately 30 to 40 protestors (the estimate comes from three different sources, including on source who was on site) raised their voices in opposition. It will be interesting to hear how Bauerle will spin the number of protestors and their impact on the process.

Rarely will you hear objective, critical analysis of the issues on WBEN because it’s a right wing, gun-lovin’, flag-wavin’ radio station, staffed by true American patriots. George Bush is a hero, Hillary Clinton is the devil. Republicans are patriots, Democrats are (BLEEP). It’s all black and white. Fair and balanced.

If you want to hear analytical, insightful discussion of the issues facing the community, you’re more likely to find it on WBFO-FM and WNED-AM as well as on small town radio stations like WBTA, WHDL, WDOE and WLVL.
 
> If you want to hear analytical, insightful discussion of the
> issues facing the community, you’re more likely to find it
> on WBFO-FM and WNED-AM as well as on small town radio
> stations like WBTA, WHDL, WDOE and WLVL.

Thanks. We try. :)

But honestly, I think we're being a little too hard on Bauerle and Beach here. While I havne't had an opportunity to listen to Tom's show in a while, I make it a point to listen to Sandy regularly. Granted, he's full of himself. And undoubtably, he seems to know the answer to all questions. But he does offer critique that you won't get in print media. And like it or not, the pols listen to his "ideas."

Erie County's government has obviously made a lot of cuts. Some easy. Some not so easy. But there still appears to be some fat in that budget ... and until any government cuts all the fat out, I can't see how they could - with clear conscious - raise your taxes ... well, and my taxes too. Afterall, I do a large portion of my shopping in the EC.
 
I agree with Scott here, and to a lesser extent with Mike. But if I may, Phil, why did you post your obviously informed opinions on a RADIO message board instead of calling Sandy on the carpet on his own show? If your facts are right and you can back them up, I know Sandy would respect you for your opinion...and that you would take his show a step up by injecting a lively, coherant debate. And getting through on the phone never seems to be a problem...so the question still remains why you chose to start this thread at all.

One other thing...just because somone is a (gasp!) DJ does not mean that person is not informed and well spoken. What about all the opinionated actors? Are they to be discounted because of their chosen profession? Are we therefore to dismiss any good that Ronald Reagan did as President? Just because Al Franken is a comedian does that negate his obvious intelligence? Sandy may in fact be "full of himself" but he is in fact a bright man whose way of thinking obviously resonates with a large audience (he IS #1). Just because he is also a DJ doesn't lessen that fact. [Is it ironic that I am using the same argument to defend Sandy and Al Franken, a man for whom Sandy has no respect because Franken is a comedian?]

Philip, I think your argument needs to be re-thought.
 
A thought...

> But if I may, Phil, why did you post your obviously informed
> opinions on a RADIO message board instead of calling Sandy
> on the carpet on his own show?

Desi, Phil probably posted on this board because his is a radio guy, and is probably precluded from calling Sandy's show. One other thing to note is that Sandy doesn't always treat people who disagree with him - and have facts that make him look bad - graciously. It's VERY difficult to win an argument with somebody who controls the dump button. This is demonstrated frequently by both the B&B Boys.
 
Re: A thought...

I don't know if I agree entirely with that statement. I have heard Sandy keep people on the air way too long (compared with, say, CFRB, which cuts their callers off usually after they've expressed one thought), although I have also heard him get very snippy with callers who don't listen to what he is saying (and I would probably do the same), which may in fact sound like he just cuts people off who don't agree with him). And I have also heard him have healthy arguments with people who disagree with his point of view; they never change his mind, but he revels in the fact that he lets them state their views and engage him in a lively conversation.

Lest I sound like I'm blindly praising Sandy I'm not...but I DO consider him to be well informed, if not always fair with some callers. I don't have an opinoon on Baurele because I'm out of market and listening to one of our show hosts during the morning hours when I'm not working.

As far as radio folks being on air at WBEN, I would think that's only a problem if Phil is on air at another station in Buffalo. I know that neither WBEN nor Sandy has any policy that precludes other broadcasters being on-air callers.
 
Re: A thought...

> As far as radio folks being on air at WBEN, I would think
> that's only a problem if Phil is on air at another station
> in Buffalo.

Bingo!
 
> > If the sales tax increases, Buffalo is no place for
> Tourism.
> >
> > If anything, LOWERING the sales tax will solve the
> problem.
> > Raise something else if need be.
>
> Well, since a lot of our tourists come from Canada, 8.25% is
> peanuts compared to the GST, PST, etc. that they pay up
> there.
>
> Rest assured, the sales tax increase is just the beginning.

When was Buffalo EVER a place for tourism?

I know. I've been in WKBW-land.

The reason Cleveland exists to make Buffalo look good.

Excuse me .... it's OK to mention radio in this thread?

http://www.univox.com/writer/buffalo96.html

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Re: Not All Blowhards

You are one of the better posters on this board, as witnessed by your thoughts here, but I cannot understand why you engage in hypergraphic bomb throwing with certain posters. Some posts are not worth responding to, why waste your time trading insults?

BTW, Sandy Beach yesterday had a very impressive show covering the resignation of Erie county comptroller Nancy Naples. It was opinionated, yet informative. Between Bauerle and Beach, the latter is the better host and far more entertaining. Bauerle, with his staccato, stentorian "talk show announcer" delivery sounds like a Rush wannabe.
 
> One other thing...just because somone is a (gasp!) DJ does
> not mean that person is not informed and well spoken. What
> about all the opinionated actors? Are they to be discounted
> because of their chosen profession? Are we therefore to
> dismiss any good that Ronald Reagan did as President? Just
> because Al Franken is a comedian does that negate his
> obvious intelligence?

Well-said and quite true. A few years ago, I was at a gathering which included a certain woman who anchors and reports for WBEN. I overheard her talking, not so subtly, to a few people about a "d-j (condescending tone) who had been hired to do news." The implication was clear.

Later, I introduced myself and struck up a pleasant conversation with her, during which I asked in which congressional district she lived and who her congressman was. She didn't know.
 
Desi, my friend, you have taken me to the woodshed, and deservedly so. The problem with the Internet and e-mail is that you can instantly vent your feelings, when it probably is better to sit back and take a deep breath. I guess I erupted when Sandy, in his smug way, made a clearly factual error while making it sound like it was the truth. The problem with me calling in is that I'm not in a position to call another radio station's talk show. And my statement about former DJs serving as talk shows hosts is probably unfair. I'm sure you would excel as a talk show host, if that is something you chose to do. But the basic message of my post is that talk show hosts need to be really careful when they make comments. I know that's probably easier said than done. But when Sandy is railing and railing against someone, but then makes an absolutely false statement to buttress his argument, it causes me to scream. So, I'll leave it at that.
 
> I've had it with blowhard talk show hosts who don't know
> what they're talking about.

Welcome to the world of talk radio.

> I'm listening to Sandy Beach right now.

We'll trade you "Family Values Bob" Lonsberry for Sandy for a week. One week with The Devirginator and you'll beg us to give Beach back.

> Go to work at WJJL.

Outside of a select few (who tend to work for or worked at public radio outlets), most the "talent" doesn't seem to grace us with their presence. Most of the talk radio show hosts don't venture too far beyond their talking points web sites anyway.
 
Point taken, Philip. Believe me, there are times when I get frustrated with Sandy and turn the dial (I also really like John Moore on CFRB in Toronto). Of course the mere fact that you have a reaction means that Sandy is doing his job: he elicits a response. Meaning you either like him or hate him, but you know who he is and where he is on the dial...and you listen.
As for talk radio, I've thought about it, but I'm too far over the hill to pick up and start again. Plus...if you think Sandy occasionally gets a fact wrong, you'd be taking ME to the woodshed just about every day!
 
> Well-said and quite true. A few years ago, I was at a
> gathering which included a certain woman who anchors and
> reports for WBEN. I overheard her talking, not so subtly, to
> a few people about a "d-j (condescending tone) who had been
> hired to do news." The implication was clear.
>
> Later, I introduced myself and struck up a pleasant
> conversation with her, during which I asked in which
> congressional district she lived and who her congressman
> was. She didn't know.
>
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