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Bob Rivers is out at KZOK

Except, as is often the case, the Blathering One missed a key point. Bob didn't do any "goodbyes"... he simply ended the show, noting today was his tenth anniversary with the station and thanked CBS for being a good employer. Classy if nothing else. I don't think Bob has much to worry about however the other 11 people on the payroll.... well that's another "kettle of fish" as they say in Ballard. Frankly, listening this morning to the last ten minutes of the show, I was shocked at how much it sounded like NPR. Of course I say that and I don't think I have listened to public radio more than about ten minutes in the past ten years. My point is that for a classic rock station, it seemed out of character but I can't argue with how the ratings stack up for him. Mr. Crow, I am told is only a short term solution as he has been there before and is not eager to hear an alarm clock go off in the 3 o'clock hour. I can certainly understand the speculation of Bob R. going to KIRO but for Bonneville to take his entire team would seem improbable. As for KZOK... Where's Robin and Maynard?? Now that's classic Seattle!!
 
I said it on the other thread about this and nailed it (if I may say so myself) that they're gonna want to go more music in the mornings. Best of luck to all the staff from Bob's show! What a class way to go out. Marty and Jodi are available too don't forget, and isn't Marty already doing some stuff with Jack FM???

Personally, I think they can do a "classic" morning show with 6-10 songs an hour AND some fun...thoughts?
 
oh wow, forget the tears you all........KZOK, has a cash contest starting up oct 4th. this is gonna be great! i think i can win it! i will definetly be listening CBS! you got me now! bob who? spike who? downtown joe who?
besides, while im trying to win this cash, i get to listen to "another brick in the wall" "stairway to heaven", and hopefully, if im lucky "freebird" will get two plays per morning drive.

bob rivers show, is/was my last link to KZOK, and seattle FM radio listening period. good riddance CBS, and your pathetic format of classic rock hits, unless your someone who is under 25 years old, and learning up on dads music artists/groups. i feel sorry for anyone who's in my age group, that has only advanced musically enough in life to listen to this kindergarten "dick and jane go up the hill" style of burned out rock hits music programming.

thanks bob, for always classing up the show, by spot lighting new music from our rock heros, and local music as well.

......sounds like a bob rivers web/pod cast would get one hell of a national audience, and advertisers would follow, and so would i.

thanks for the clinical analy$i$ mr radio and Tv juru. your thinkin logic is always a real nice insight and puzzle piece, to the corporate radio thinking logic of the assembly line of bean counter yes men in new york.

-scott
 
Sad day for radio in my view. Turns out this board was right after all. For years I have read how Bob Rivers, Ichabod, T-Man and Kent and Alan were all washed up. For years posters have called on them to be fired. Hope your happy. Three shows down, one to go! Or is that the real story? Could it be Rivers and Company jumping to kiro or maybe back to kisw and waiting out the non-compete. Time will tell. Unlike the other shows that are gone, Rivers had great ratings in PPM, second only to Kent and Alan. Maybe they made the decision to leave CBS, not the other way around???

I know many think the golden days of radio in Seattle were the 60's. I beg to differ. The 90's had great radio with Andy Savage on the end, Rivers on kisw, Fisher and West on kmtt, Robin and John on the buzz, Charlie and Ty on Kube and kjr, Rivers on kisw, Kent and Alan on kplz, Ichabod ruling kmps. kbsg was a powerhouse. More shows, more talent and more fun, not just music. Maybe as I hit 40 I am getting old and miss the "good old days." Just seems Seattle radio had great talent and all battled to win. Outside of one or two remaining real radio shows, I just hear disposable jocks or worse no talent at all.
 
Marty doesn't sound in any hurry to get back on the dial, of course it's easy to say that until they drop a pile of money in your lap...

Rick "Dub R" Robertson still has not landed anyplace since departing BJ Shea's show, I don't know that he could hold down a full on morning talker but if they are planning on more tunes and less talk he could be an affordable option who is looking to make his own mark.

Is KIRO the big winner in the Bob Rivers sweepstakes? What about a return to the Rock everyone seems to think BJ is circling the drain there after all the changes?
 
radioguy123 said:
I know many think the golden days of radio in Seattle were the 60's. I beg to differ. The 90's had great radio...
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I think the point made many times and in different ways here is people perceive great radio to be when they CONNECT with it (I also have a theory about teenage musical imprinting that helps form an alliance to your station in mid-teens) -- many think KXRX was great station because they connected with the energy. Older washed up folks like myself may prefer 70's (I prefer that to 60's because it was more polished but still had the energy and personality). Others like the 80's/90's "just get down to business and play my music" approach.

But I think the point in common is that minimal effort is being made to keep that CONNECTION alive. That's why a lot of us gripe.

Since many prefer the business focus ... let me try another example. When your Powerpoint starts with "we must get the most revenue in the market" and you reverse engineer from that, it's a pretty tough challenge. When the mindset starts with "what do people want ... how do we deliver it", THEN you can insert that P/Point slide about "we WILL get the most revenue in the market".
 
LITTLEBOYBLUE said:
Since many prefer the business focus ... let me try another example. When your Powerpoint starts with "we must get the most revenue in the market" and you reverse engineer from that, it's a pretty tough challenge. When the mindset starts with "what do people want ... how do we deliver it", THEN you can insert that P/Point slide about "we WILL get the most revenue in the market".
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Well said.
 
so here i am on KZOK listening to "highway to hell".(time to tune out and crank up the CCWiFi) just heard an on air message from kerry, about the bob rivers failure to reach contract stuff. he left a phone # for disgruntled listeners:206-805-1262, or e-mail at [email protected].

while some of us and me are taking the easy route and bashing parent, CBS for our morning show loss. its possible it was rivers and his agent, who pulled a typical big headed hollywierd/sports star stunt, and demanded an exceptionally mega large sum?? dont know?? i guess ill listen to last nights rollye james show replay as i eat my breakfast this morn......
 
scott salvatori said:
so here i am on KZOK listening to "highway to hell".(time to tune out and crank up the CCWiFi) just heard an on air message from kerry, about the bob rivers failure to reach contract stuff. he left a phone # for disgruntled listeners:206-805-1262, or e-mail at [email protected].
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I thought you said goodbye to CBS yesterday: http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=176556.msg1533973#msg1533973.


scott salvatori said:
while some of us and me are taking the easy route and bashing parent, CBS for our morning show loss. its possible it was rivers and his agent, who pulled a typical big headed hollywierd/sports star stunt, and demanded an exceptionally mega large sum?? dont know?? i guess ill listen to last nights rollye james show replay as i eat my breakfast this morn......
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I know it's en vogue to bash corporate radio blindly here, but think about things for a moment. The bottom line is that PPM changed things.

Maybe it could have just boiled down to it not making business sense for either party. Maybe CBS offered a contract that was at a reduced price and it would have required deeper cuts among Rivers' staff and he did not feel he could keep the show at a level to where he wanted it. Could be that, could be part of that, who knows.

Just take a deep breath.
 
bob rivers listener 1st ever listener appreciation party wed, oct 6, at the snoqualmie casino, sno lounge. 8 pm.

according to bob rivers websight: "rest assured, our radio family will be sticking together, and we will return to the airwaves as soon as we can.

you can still reach bob rivers at [email protected]

glad to know the bob rivers cast will be sticking together!

-scott
 
I figured this was River's call. They obviously have another deal and are waiting out the non-compete. Good for them. It is always assumed the greedy big corporation fired the talent, when maybe the talent got to make the decision on whom to work with. Good for Rivers. Will look forward to hearing them again in six months, on whichever frequency.
 
Just sayin'.... what if Bob bought 104.5?

Not that he would, but it could make for interesting discussion...
 
rockradio1017 said:
Just sayin'.... what if Bob bought 104.5?

Not that he would, but it could make for interesting discussion...
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I tried to float this idea awhile ago and got the expected beatdown. (BTW, I thought it was a good idea then and better now.) http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=116048.msg931198#msg931198

I hope you go for it, Bob. Pay low bases and then compensate air talent for not ratings, but ad revenues. (The former is nice, the latter is cash.) Bring back Slaton, R&M.... you get it. If it's a good idea, they'll make a lot more on equity incentives than they would a bi-weekly paycheck. Given the job market, I bet base salaries could be low, too.

It's not without precedent. Dave Grosby just bought the rights to SU basketball and is doing the broadcasting, also. Ballsy move, and I hope it's paying off for him.
 
fremont, great thread repeat from dec 08, before i monitored this board.
many months ago, i brung up the same thinking logic, as visioned through my rose colored glasses, re: bob rivers, and ex/current media friends in high places, buying 104.5.......
are there any other precedents with on-air radio people, buying radio stations, either to extend their careers, or have a bigger say in operations around here?
i recall the great, pat O'day, had a radio station called KQ96, in the early 80's, which i believe came on after the KYYX days. it was short lived, but i recall it being one hell of a adult oriented top 40/contemp station. and pat did the afternooon air shift as well. i'm still looking for a bozz scaggs song he used to rotate..........
 
scott salvatori said:
i recall the great, pat O'day, had a radio station called KQ96, in the early 80's, which i believe came on after the KYYX days. it was short lived, but i recall it being one hell of a adult oriented top 40/contemp station. and pat did the afternooon air shift as well. i'm still looking for a bozz scaggs song he used to rotate..........
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Other way around. Pat had KYYX and it became KQ96 after it went into bankruptcy...though he did stick around to provide air talent services.

Which Boz song you need?
 
as i recollect....kyyx was top 40 hits, then switched to "the wave" format around 80. i remember they(kyyx) completely ruined/burnt out this genre of music in very short order, by programming "new wave" like a pop format with heavy run of continuous top 10 hit rotations, and very tight playlists. unlike pioneer, 1540 KZAM(rock of the 80's), which i listened to, back in the high school daze. I didnt know pat O'day had a hand in that kyyx debacle......

the boz scaggs song, sounds a bit like "lowdown". lots of hard drivin' thumpin' jazz bass. i own a half dozen boz albums, and searched around for info a few years ago(album/singles/discographys). almost sounds like it may not have made an album. may be a "B" side. but, pat did rotate it quite heavily back in the KQ96 days, and i have never heard it anywhere else in all my years of radio tuning...
 
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