After looking over the Boss Radio website recently, I had a question of feasability. The music playlists were very broad...at least by today's standards. It seems to me that a station looking to make a good niche in this market could, if they did their homework, bring back the playlist/format (although the jocks can never be duplicated) and have some moderate success. It seems to be a combination of rock & roll and some of what we would now classify as MOR. I would imagine the target demo would average 35+ but if it was done right you may have a viable format that would keep stations like KRTH from sounding so repetitive. It seems to me that maybe the time is right, what with the baby boomer generation looking for something that would remind them of their younger days (I qualify in this category). Anyway, that's my thought, I'd appreciate yours!
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Phantom
Guest
KHJ, KFWB and KRLA ... loved them ... great idea here!
> After looking over the Boss Radio website recently, I had a
> question of feasability. The music playlists were very
> broad...at least by today's standards. It seems to me that
> a station looking to make a good niche in this market could,
> if they did their homework, bring back the playlist/format
> (although the jocks can never be duplicated) and have some
> moderate success. It seems to be a combination of rock &
> roll and some of what we would now classify as MOR. I would
> imagine the target demo would average 35+ but if it was done
> right you may have a viable format that would keep stations
> like KRTH from sounding so repetitive. It seems to me that
> maybe the time is right, what with the baby boomer
> generation looking for something that would remind them of
> their younger days (I qualify in this category). Anyway,
> that's my thought, I'd appreciate yours!
I agree ... and some of the jocks from that era are still alive and might like to recreate their youth so to speak.
Great idea!
I liked the personality of KFWB and KRLA and the tightness of KHJ in the 1960s. To be honest, I liked KFWB and KRLA best. KRRRRRRLA had a huge playlist at one time ... great jocks.
All of them did.
But Bill Drake cleaned up radio ... He once told a jock, "Man you talk a lot."
A mix of music and personality ... it is a fine line to be sure.<P ID="signature">______________
Tony Lyndell Williams</P>
> After looking over the Boss Radio website recently, I had a
> question of feasability. The music playlists were very
> broad...at least by today's standards. It seems to me that
> a station looking to make a good niche in this market could,
> if they did their homework, bring back the playlist/format
> (although the jocks can never be duplicated) and have some
> moderate success. It seems to be a combination of rock &
> roll and some of what we would now classify as MOR. I would
> imagine the target demo would average 35+ but if it was done
> right you may have a viable format that would keep stations
> like KRTH from sounding so repetitive. It seems to me that
> maybe the time is right, what with the baby boomer
> generation looking for something that would remind them of
> their younger days (I qualify in this category). Anyway,
> that's my thought, I'd appreciate yours!
I agree ... and some of the jocks from that era are still alive and might like to recreate their youth so to speak.
Great idea!
I liked the personality of KFWB and KRLA and the tightness of KHJ in the 1960s. To be honest, I liked KFWB and KRLA best. KRRRRRRLA had a huge playlist at one time ... great jocks.
All of them did.
But Bill Drake cleaned up radio ... He once told a jock, "Man you talk a lot."
A mix of music and personality ... it is a fine line to be sure.<P ID="signature">______________
Tony Lyndell Williams</P>
> After looking over the Boss Radio website recently, I had a
> question of feasability. The music playlists were very
> broad...at least by today's standards.
As to style, they were broad. But they were very short in total cuts.
> It seems to me that
> a station looking to make a good niche in this market could,
> if they did their homework, bring back the playlist/format
> (although the jocks can never be duplicated) and have some
> moderate success.
I think it was a different time. The mid 60's was an era of consensus music... I believe the three Top 40's in LA< KRLA, KFWB and KHJ had, together, over 30 shares.
Today's CHR, KIIS, has a mid to low 4-share.
In that early KHJ era, the market's FMs were not viable so the competiton was basically the AMs on 570, 640, 710, 790, 930, 980, and 1070. There were a couple of niche players, such as KWKW and KALI, and KGFJ in the R&B area. Orange County actually had strong locals with KWIZ and KEZY. But the totality of what is today's LA market was dominanted by less than 10 radio stations. And there were just a couple of formats between them all... you were either MOR or Top 40 or niche.
> It seems to be a combination of rock &
> roll and some of what we would now classify as MOR. I would
> imagine the target demo would average 35+ but if it was done
> right you may have a viable format that would keep stations
> like KRTH from sounding so repetitive.
In the latter part of the 60's, the FCC required FMs to stop simulcasting and to maintain a minimum operating schedule. At that point, music started fragmenting, with Top 40 spinning off the harder rock listeners. As time moved on, the FMs created more specialized format, and everyone picked the staiton that they liked best.
In the Top 40 heyday, people listened because they liked many of the songs. Later, they selected stations because they liked nearly all the songs. Top 40 oly kept its broadness because it had no fragmentation plays against it.
> It seems to me that
> maybe the time is right, what with the baby boomer
> generation looking for something that would remind them of
> their younger days (I qualify in this category). Anyway,
> that's my thought, I'd appreciate yours!
Personally, I look for entertainment I like now. I don't look for a recreation of my past. I don't watch Gunsmoke and Bonanza reruns, either.
> question of feasability. The music playlists were very
> broad...at least by today's standards.
As to style, they were broad. But they were very short in total cuts.
> It seems to me that
> a station looking to make a good niche in this market could,
> if they did their homework, bring back the playlist/format
> (although the jocks can never be duplicated) and have some
> moderate success.
I think it was a different time. The mid 60's was an era of consensus music... I believe the three Top 40's in LA< KRLA, KFWB and KHJ had, together, over 30 shares.
Today's CHR, KIIS, has a mid to low 4-share.
In that early KHJ era, the market's FMs were not viable so the competiton was basically the AMs on 570, 640, 710, 790, 930, 980, and 1070. There were a couple of niche players, such as KWKW and KALI, and KGFJ in the R&B area. Orange County actually had strong locals with KWIZ and KEZY. But the totality of what is today's LA market was dominanted by less than 10 radio stations. And there were just a couple of formats between them all... you were either MOR or Top 40 or niche.
> It seems to be a combination of rock &
> roll and some of what we would now classify as MOR. I would
> imagine the target demo would average 35+ but if it was done
> right you may have a viable format that would keep stations
> like KRTH from sounding so repetitive.
In the latter part of the 60's, the FCC required FMs to stop simulcasting and to maintain a minimum operating schedule. At that point, music started fragmenting, with Top 40 spinning off the harder rock listeners. As time moved on, the FMs created more specialized format, and everyone picked the staiton that they liked best.
In the Top 40 heyday, people listened because they liked many of the songs. Later, they selected stations because they liked nearly all the songs. Top 40 oly kept its broadness because it had no fragmentation plays against it.
> It seems to me that
> maybe the time is right, what with the baby boomer
> generation looking for something that would remind them of
> their younger days (I qualify in this category). Anyway,
> that's my thought, I'd appreciate yours!
Personally, I look for entertainment I like now. I don't look for a recreation of my past. I don't watch Gunsmoke and Bonanza reruns, either.
M
miamimadman
Guest
Bill Drake also said...
http://www.reelradio.com/jmn/index.html#khjretro
Batman, are you aware that Bill Drake & Bill Watson are supposedly working on a new Boss Satellite Oldie's format, possibly out of Texas. The big bucks needed to woo any of the remaining Boss Jocks just isn't available anymore. KROQ AM 1500 in 1973 had the best pay & benefit scheme during the final Top 30 days. $100,000 a year for every Jock. One thing though, the paychecks bounced after a few months, then they went dark!.
> Great idea!
>
> I liked the personality of KFWB and KRLA and the tightness
> of KHJ in the 1960s. To be honest, I liked KFWB and KRLA
> best. KRRRRRRLA had a huge playlist at one time ... great
> jocks.
>
> All of them did.
>
> But Bill Drake cleaned up radio ... He once told a jock,
> "Man you talk a lot."
>
> A mix of music and personality ... it is a fine line to be
> sure.
>
http://www.reelradio.com/jmn/index.html#khjretro
Batman, are you aware that Bill Drake & Bill Watson are supposedly working on a new Boss Satellite Oldie's format, possibly out of Texas. The big bucks needed to woo any of the remaining Boss Jocks just isn't available anymore. KROQ AM 1500 in 1973 had the best pay & benefit scheme during the final Top 30 days. $100,000 a year for every Jock. One thing though, the paychecks bounced after a few months, then they went dark!.
> Great idea!
>
> I liked the personality of KFWB and KRLA and the tightness
> of KHJ in the 1960s. To be honest, I liked KFWB and KRLA
> best. KRRRRRRLA had a huge playlist at one time ... great
> jocks.
>
> All of them did.
>
> But Bill Drake cleaned up radio ... He once told a jock,
> "Man you talk a lot."
>
> A mix of music and personality ... it is a fine line to be
> sure.
>
P
Phantom
Guest
And Tony also says
> http://www.reelradio.com/jmn/index.html#khjretro
>
> Batman, are you aware that Bill Drake & Bill Watson are
> supposedly working on a new Boss Satellite Oldie's format,
> possibly out of Texas. The big bucks needed to woo any of
> the remaining Boss Jocks just isn't available anymore. KROQ
> AM 1500 in 1973 had the best pay & benefit scheme during the
> final Top 30 days. $100,000 a year for every Jock. One thing
> though, the paychecks bounced after a few months, then they
> went dark!.
I would LOVE to do that format ... oh man ...
Yeah, but some people don't need big bucks anymore. They would do it for free. I would work in Dallas for free.
And have ... nearly lol ... recently ...
KROQ was great ... Tuna, Riddle, the Rabbit ... Steve Sands ... got an aircheck ... great stuff ... great ...
How are things MadMan? ... coming back to LA?
> > Great idea!
> >
> > I liked the personality of KFWB and KRLA and the tightness
>
> > of KHJ in the 1960s. To be honest, I liked KFWB and KRLA
> > best. KRRRRRRLA had a huge playlist at one time ... great
>
> > jocks.
> >
> > All of them did.
> >
> > But Bill Drake cleaned up radio ... He once told a jock,
> > "Man you talk a lot."
> >
> > A mix of music and personality ... it is a fine line to be
>
> > sure.
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Tony Lyndell Williams</P>
> http://www.reelradio.com/jmn/index.html#khjretro
>
> Batman, are you aware that Bill Drake & Bill Watson are
> supposedly working on a new Boss Satellite Oldie's format,
> possibly out of Texas. The big bucks needed to woo any of
> the remaining Boss Jocks just isn't available anymore. KROQ
> AM 1500 in 1973 had the best pay & benefit scheme during the
> final Top 30 days. $100,000 a year for every Jock. One thing
> though, the paychecks bounced after a few months, then they
> went dark!.
I would LOVE to do that format ... oh man ...
Yeah, but some people don't need big bucks anymore. They would do it for free. I would work in Dallas for free.
And have ... nearly lol ... recently ...
KROQ was great ... Tuna, Riddle, the Rabbit ... Steve Sands ... got an aircheck ... great stuff ... great ...
How are things MadMan? ... coming back to LA?
> > Great idea!
> >
> > I liked the personality of KFWB and KRLA and the tightness
>
> > of KHJ in the 1960s. To be honest, I liked KFWB and KRLA
> > best. KRRRRRRLA had a huge playlist at one time ... great
>
> > jocks.
> >
> > All of them did.
> >
> > But Bill Drake cleaned up radio ... He once told a jock,
> > "Man you talk a lot."
> >
> > A mix of music and personality ... it is a fine line to be
>
> > sure.
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Tony Lyndell Williams</P>
M
michaelhagerty
Guest
Re: Bill Drake also said...
The big bucks needed to woo any of the remaining Boss Jocks just isn't available anymore.
Miami: While bucks aren't what they used to be, the biggest problem is the inevitable march of time. Assuming that a revival of Boss Radio would have limits...nothing from or after the John Sebastian era...here's what the talent pool looks like:
Robert W. Morgan: Dead.
Roger Christian: Dead.
Gary Mack: Retired in Florida.
The Real Don Steele: Dead.
Dave Diamond: Teaching college in South Dakota.
Sam Riddle: Producing TV shows.
Johnny Williams: Semi-retired in Hawaii.
Donn Tyler: Semi-retired in Hawaii and Santa Fe, New Mexico.
Johnny Mitchell: Dead.
Frank Terry: Retired.
Scotty Brink: Living in Oklahoma, feeding a daily show to WRLL, Chicago.
Tommy Vance: Dead.
Steve Clark: Whereabouts unknown.
Bobby Tripp: Dead.
Humble Harve: On Westwood One's Oldies Channel.
Tom Maule: Dead.
Charlie Tuna: Doing mornings at KBIG, Los Angeles.
Bill Wade: Teaching at a business college in Arizona.
Chuck Browning: Dead.
Shadoe Stevens: Appearing on CBS' Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson.
Mark Elliott: Voiceovers for Disney animated feature trailers.
Jerry Butler: Dead.
Pete McNeal: Retired from radio 30 years ago.
Dick Sainte: Dead.
Walt Baby Love: Urban editor for R&R.
Charlie Van Dyke: Voiceover for a jillion radio & TV stations from Phoenix.
Jimmy Rabbitt: Semi-retired in Colorado.
Cat Simon: Owns an internet business in Arizona.
Captain John: Whereabouts unknown.
Barry Kaye: Voiceovers from Houston.
Jim Carson: Currently at KRTH.
Bill Gable: At CHFI, Toronto.
Danny Martinez: Last heard at KCBS before "Jack" arrived.
Bobby Rich: Mornings/PD at Mix 94.9 in Tucson.
Larry McKay: On Westwood One's Oldies Channel.
Tom Dooley: A preacher in Texas.
Machine Gun Kelly: Doing syndicated weekend programs.
Billy Pearl: An attorney in Long Beach.
Tony Mann: Whereabouts unknown.
Bobby Ocean: Voiceovers in San Francisco/Afternoons on XM7.
Paul Freeman: Displaced when 92.7 became "Jill-FM".
Beau Weaver: Voiceovers. Lots of them.
Dr. John Leader: Voiceovers. Almost as many as Beau.
Dave Sebastian: Voiceover coach.
Shana: At KCBS until "Jack".
Sally Adams: Working for a computer firm in Texas.
Mason Dixon: Working at an oldies station in Florida.
Mucho Morales: On Westwood One's Oldies Channel.
As you said, the money wouldn't be gargantuan...probably not enough to offset the cost of living for someone who isn't already in the Southland...and probably not enough to lure guys like Van Dyke, Mark Elliott, Bobby Ocean, Beau Weaver and John Leader away from their voiceover gigs, or Riddle and Shadoe fom TV. So, your list of alive, in radio (at least recently) and currently living in L.A. is:
Humble Harve
Charlie Tuna
Jim Carson
Danny Martinez
Larry McKay
Machine Gun Kelly (I'm assuming he's in L.A.)
Paul Freeman
Shana
Mucho Morales
Harve and Tuna are givens...huge parts of the glory days of KHJ. Jim Carson did a month of fill-ins between Robert W. and Charlie Van Dyke in 1973 before going to K-100, though his long run at K-Earth compensates for that.
Danny Martinez and Larry McKay did a couple of years each, but after the golden years. The Gunner was late to the party, too...but his higher profile probably offsets that.
Freeman did overnights for maybe a year...and Shana and Mucho were just settling into the chair when the Sebastian era began.
I suppose you could do a Boss Radio with Tuna, Carson, Machine Gun Kelly, and Humble Harve, but my gut instinct is that it would sound a lot more like KODJ than KHJ.
Bottom line: The Boss Radio re-creation happened 13 years ago...at K-EARTH. It's over. Somebody should be plotting the re-creation of KIIS circa '86. Or KKHR with a promotion budget.
---Michael Hagerty
The big bucks needed to woo any of the remaining Boss Jocks just isn't available anymore.
Miami: While bucks aren't what they used to be, the biggest problem is the inevitable march of time. Assuming that a revival of Boss Radio would have limits...nothing from or after the John Sebastian era...here's what the talent pool looks like:
Robert W. Morgan: Dead.
Roger Christian: Dead.
Gary Mack: Retired in Florida.
The Real Don Steele: Dead.
Dave Diamond: Teaching college in South Dakota.
Sam Riddle: Producing TV shows.
Johnny Williams: Semi-retired in Hawaii.
Donn Tyler: Semi-retired in Hawaii and Santa Fe, New Mexico.
Johnny Mitchell: Dead.
Frank Terry: Retired.
Scotty Brink: Living in Oklahoma, feeding a daily show to WRLL, Chicago.
Tommy Vance: Dead.
Steve Clark: Whereabouts unknown.
Bobby Tripp: Dead.
Humble Harve: On Westwood One's Oldies Channel.
Tom Maule: Dead.
Charlie Tuna: Doing mornings at KBIG, Los Angeles.
Bill Wade: Teaching at a business college in Arizona.
Chuck Browning: Dead.
Shadoe Stevens: Appearing on CBS' Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson.
Mark Elliott: Voiceovers for Disney animated feature trailers.
Jerry Butler: Dead.
Pete McNeal: Retired from radio 30 years ago.
Dick Sainte: Dead.
Walt Baby Love: Urban editor for R&R.
Charlie Van Dyke: Voiceover for a jillion radio & TV stations from Phoenix.
Jimmy Rabbitt: Semi-retired in Colorado.
Cat Simon: Owns an internet business in Arizona.
Captain John: Whereabouts unknown.
Barry Kaye: Voiceovers from Houston.
Jim Carson: Currently at KRTH.
Bill Gable: At CHFI, Toronto.
Danny Martinez: Last heard at KCBS before "Jack" arrived.
Bobby Rich: Mornings/PD at Mix 94.9 in Tucson.
Larry McKay: On Westwood One's Oldies Channel.
Tom Dooley: A preacher in Texas.
Machine Gun Kelly: Doing syndicated weekend programs.
Billy Pearl: An attorney in Long Beach.
Tony Mann: Whereabouts unknown.
Bobby Ocean: Voiceovers in San Francisco/Afternoons on XM7.
Paul Freeman: Displaced when 92.7 became "Jill-FM".
Beau Weaver: Voiceovers. Lots of them.
Dr. John Leader: Voiceovers. Almost as many as Beau.
Dave Sebastian: Voiceover coach.
Shana: At KCBS until "Jack".
Sally Adams: Working for a computer firm in Texas.
Mason Dixon: Working at an oldies station in Florida.
Mucho Morales: On Westwood One's Oldies Channel.
As you said, the money wouldn't be gargantuan...probably not enough to offset the cost of living for someone who isn't already in the Southland...and probably not enough to lure guys like Van Dyke, Mark Elliott, Bobby Ocean, Beau Weaver and John Leader away from their voiceover gigs, or Riddle and Shadoe fom TV. So, your list of alive, in radio (at least recently) and currently living in L.A. is:
Humble Harve
Charlie Tuna
Jim Carson
Danny Martinez
Larry McKay
Machine Gun Kelly (I'm assuming he's in L.A.)
Paul Freeman
Shana
Mucho Morales
Harve and Tuna are givens...huge parts of the glory days of KHJ. Jim Carson did a month of fill-ins between Robert W. and Charlie Van Dyke in 1973 before going to K-100, though his long run at K-Earth compensates for that.
Danny Martinez and Larry McKay did a couple of years each, but after the golden years. The Gunner was late to the party, too...but his higher profile probably offsets that.
Freeman did overnights for maybe a year...and Shana and Mucho were just settling into the chair when the Sebastian era began.
I suppose you could do a Boss Radio with Tuna, Carson, Machine Gun Kelly, and Humble Harve, but my gut instinct is that it would sound a lot more like KODJ than KHJ.
Bottom line: The Boss Radio re-creation happened 13 years ago...at K-EARTH. It's over. Somebody should be plotting the re-creation of KIIS circa '86. Or KKHR with a promotion budget.
---Michael Hagerty
M
miamimadman
Guest
Incredible Post!
I bet your missing at least one person
Oh James Martin, 'Charlie Fox', but he's missing too!
> The big bucks needed to woo any of the remaining Boss Jocks
> just isn't available anymore.
>
>
> Miami: While bucks aren't what they used to be, the biggest
> problem is the inevitable march of time. Assuming that a
> revival of Boss Radio would have limits...nothing from or
> after the John Sebastian era...here's what the talent pool
> looks like:
>
> Robert W. Morgan: Dead.
> Roger Christian: Dead.
> Gary Mack: Retired in Florida.
> The Real Don Steele: Dead.
> Dave Diamond: Teaching college in South Dakota.
> Sam Riddle: Producing TV shows.
> Johnny Williams: Semi-retired in Hawaii.
> Donn Tyler: Semi-retired in Hawaii and Santa Fe, New Mexico.
>
> Johnny Mitchell: Dead.
> Frank Terry: Retired.
> Scotty Brink: Living in Oklahoma, feeding a daily show to
> WRLL, Chicago.
> Tommy Vance: Dead.
> Steve Clark: Whereabouts unknown.
> Bobby Tripp: Dead.
> Humble Harve: On Westwood One's Oldies Channel.
> Tom Maule: Dead.
> Charlie Tuna: Doing mornings at KBIG, Los Angeles.
> Bill Wade: Teaching at a business college in Arizona.
> Chuck Browning: Dead.
> Shadoe Stevens: Appearing on CBS' Late Late Show with Craig
> Ferguson.
> Mark Elliott: Voiceovers for Disney animated feature
> trailers.
> Jerry Butler: Dead.
> Pete McNeal: Retired from radio 30 years ago.
> Dick Sainte: Dead.
> Walt Baby Love: Urban editor for R&R.
> Charlie Van Dyke: Voiceover for a jillion radio & TV
> stations from Phoenix.
> Jimmy Rabbitt: Semi-retired in Colorado.
> Cat Simon: Owns an internet business in Arizona.
> Captain John: Whereabouts unknown.
> Barry Kaye: Voiceovers from Houston.
> Jim Carson: Currently at KRTH.
> Bill Gable: At CHFI, Toronto.
> Danny Martinez: Last heard at KCBS before "Jack" arrived.
> Bobby Rich: Mornings/PD at Mix 94.9 in Tucson.
> Larry McKay: On Westwood One's Oldies Channel.
> Tom Dooley: A preacher in Texas.
> Machine Gun Kelly: Doing syndicated weekend programs.
> Billy Pearl: An attorney in Long Beach.
> Tony Mann: Whereabouts unknown.
> Bobby Ocean: Voiceovers in San Francisco/Afternoons on XM7.
> Paul Freeman: Displaced when 92.7 became "Jill-FM".
> Beau Weaver: Voiceovers. Lots of them.
> Dr. John Leader: Voiceovers. Almost as many as Beau.
> Dave Sebastian: Voiceover coach.
> Shana: At KCBS until "Jack".
> Sally Adams: Working for a computer firm in Texas.
> Mason Dixon: Dead.
> Mucho Morales: On Westwood One's Oldies Channel.
>
> As you said, the money wouldn't be gargantuan...probably not
> enough to offset the cost of living for someone who isn't
> already in the Southland...and probably not enough to lure
> guys like Van Dyke, Mark Elliott, Bobby Ocean, Beau Weaver
> and John Leader away from their voiceover gigs, or Riddle
> and Shadoe fom TV. So, your list of alive, in radio (at
> least recently) and currently living in L.A. is:
>
> Humble Harve
> Charlie Tuna
> Jim Carson
> Danny Martinez
> Larry McKay
> Machine Gun Kelly (I'm assuming he's in L.A.)
> Paul Freeman
> Shana
> Mucho Morales
>
> Harve and Tuna are givens...huge parts of the glory days of
> KHJ. Jim Carson did a month of fill-ins between Robert W.
> and Charlie Van Dyke in 1973 before going to K-100, though
> his long run at K-Earth compensates for that.
>
> Danny Martinez and Larry McKay did a couple of years each,
> but after the golden years. The Gunner was late to the
> party, too...but his higher profile probably offsets that.
>
> Freeman did overnights for maybe a year...and Shana and
> Mucho were just settling into the chair when the Sebastian
> era began.
>
> I suppose you could do a Boss Radio with Tuna, Carson,
> Machine Gun Kelly, and Humble Harve, but my gut instinct is
> that it would sound a lot more like KODJ than KHJ.
>
> Bottom line: The Boss Radio re-creation happened 13 years
> ago...at K-EARTH. It's over. Somebody should be plotting the
> re-creation of KIIS circa '86. Or KKHR with a promotion
> budget.
>
> ---Michael Hagerty
>
I bet your missing at least one person
Oh James Martin, 'Charlie Fox', but he's missing too!
> The big bucks needed to woo any of the remaining Boss Jocks
> just isn't available anymore.
>
>
> Miami: While bucks aren't what they used to be, the biggest
> problem is the inevitable march of time. Assuming that a
> revival of Boss Radio would have limits...nothing from or
> after the John Sebastian era...here's what the talent pool
> looks like:
>
> Robert W. Morgan: Dead.
> Roger Christian: Dead.
> Gary Mack: Retired in Florida.
> The Real Don Steele: Dead.
> Dave Diamond: Teaching college in South Dakota.
> Sam Riddle: Producing TV shows.
> Johnny Williams: Semi-retired in Hawaii.
> Donn Tyler: Semi-retired in Hawaii and Santa Fe, New Mexico.
>
> Johnny Mitchell: Dead.
> Frank Terry: Retired.
> Scotty Brink: Living in Oklahoma, feeding a daily show to
> WRLL, Chicago.
> Tommy Vance: Dead.
> Steve Clark: Whereabouts unknown.
> Bobby Tripp: Dead.
> Humble Harve: On Westwood One's Oldies Channel.
> Tom Maule: Dead.
> Charlie Tuna: Doing mornings at KBIG, Los Angeles.
> Bill Wade: Teaching at a business college in Arizona.
> Chuck Browning: Dead.
> Shadoe Stevens: Appearing on CBS' Late Late Show with Craig
> Ferguson.
> Mark Elliott: Voiceovers for Disney animated feature
> trailers.
> Jerry Butler: Dead.
> Pete McNeal: Retired from radio 30 years ago.
> Dick Sainte: Dead.
> Walt Baby Love: Urban editor for R&R.
> Charlie Van Dyke: Voiceover for a jillion radio & TV
> stations from Phoenix.
> Jimmy Rabbitt: Semi-retired in Colorado.
> Cat Simon: Owns an internet business in Arizona.
> Captain John: Whereabouts unknown.
> Barry Kaye: Voiceovers from Houston.
> Jim Carson: Currently at KRTH.
> Bill Gable: At CHFI, Toronto.
> Danny Martinez: Last heard at KCBS before "Jack" arrived.
> Bobby Rich: Mornings/PD at Mix 94.9 in Tucson.
> Larry McKay: On Westwood One's Oldies Channel.
> Tom Dooley: A preacher in Texas.
> Machine Gun Kelly: Doing syndicated weekend programs.
> Billy Pearl: An attorney in Long Beach.
> Tony Mann: Whereabouts unknown.
> Bobby Ocean: Voiceovers in San Francisco/Afternoons on XM7.
> Paul Freeman: Displaced when 92.7 became "Jill-FM".
> Beau Weaver: Voiceovers. Lots of them.
> Dr. John Leader: Voiceovers. Almost as many as Beau.
> Dave Sebastian: Voiceover coach.
> Shana: At KCBS until "Jack".
> Sally Adams: Working for a computer firm in Texas.
> Mason Dixon: Dead.
> Mucho Morales: On Westwood One's Oldies Channel.
>
> As you said, the money wouldn't be gargantuan...probably not
> enough to offset the cost of living for someone who isn't
> already in the Southland...and probably not enough to lure
> guys like Van Dyke, Mark Elliott, Bobby Ocean, Beau Weaver
> and John Leader away from their voiceover gigs, or Riddle
> and Shadoe fom TV. So, your list of alive, in radio (at
> least recently) and currently living in L.A. is:
>
> Humble Harve
> Charlie Tuna
> Jim Carson
> Danny Martinez
> Larry McKay
> Machine Gun Kelly (I'm assuming he's in L.A.)
> Paul Freeman
> Shana
> Mucho Morales
>
> Harve and Tuna are givens...huge parts of the glory days of
> KHJ. Jim Carson did a month of fill-ins between Robert W.
> and Charlie Van Dyke in 1973 before going to K-100, though
> his long run at K-Earth compensates for that.
>
> Danny Martinez and Larry McKay did a couple of years each,
> but after the golden years. The Gunner was late to the
> party, too...but his higher profile probably offsets that.
>
> Freeman did overnights for maybe a year...and Shana and
> Mucho were just settling into the chair when the Sebastian
> era began.
>
> I suppose you could do a Boss Radio with Tuna, Carson,
> Machine Gun Kelly, and Humble Harve, but my gut instinct is
> that it would sound a lot more like KODJ than KHJ.
>
> Bottom line: The Boss Radio re-creation happened 13 years
> ago...at K-EARTH. It's over. Somebody should be plotting the
> re-creation of KIIS circa '86. Or KKHR with a promotion
> budget.
>
> ---Michael Hagerty
>
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michaelhagerty
Guest
Re: Incredible Post!
> I bet your missing at least one person
>
> Oh James Martin, 'Charlie Fox', but he's missing too!
I thought Fox didn't show up at KHJ until after Spears...either under Sebastian in the 9 months before the "All Music" approach or under Chuck Martin after Sebastian left(Johnny Williams' 440.com shows him at KFI in '77 and arriving at KHJ in 1979). If that's wrong, then he absolutely should be on the list. And he's not completely missing...he comments quite frequently on the exhibits at Reelradio.
---Michael Hagerty
> I bet your missing at least one person
>
> Oh James Martin, 'Charlie Fox', but he's missing too!
I thought Fox didn't show up at KHJ until after Spears...either under Sebastian in the 9 months before the "All Music" approach or under Chuck Martin after Sebastian left(Johnny Williams' 440.com shows him at KFI in '77 and arriving at KHJ in 1979). If that's wrong, then he absolutely should be on the list. And he's not completely missing...he comments quite frequently on the exhibits at Reelradio.
---Michael Hagerty
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miamimadman
Guest
a Final thought or two..
Sure I could be wrong with the Fox Man's time frame at KHJ. (Where is he writing in from, what has he said?.) K-EARTH hired Danny Martinez for Weekends & Fill in, but he's gone again. KZLA still lists Freeman as a Weekender. I worked with all 3 of them, great guys. Michael, do you know what Drake & Watson are currently working on?. And even if you don't, do you remember the line up of that Boss Satellite format they put on about 12 years back?. Pretty sure Fox went 'with'. And getting back to that giant list, would Pat Garret (the Unknown Disc Jockey) or Pat Evans have made it? I recently tried to ask DSW, Dave Sebastian Williams a question or two about the final years of KHJ, he didn't remember. This coming from the guy who launched the first minute of Smokin' Oldies (his last Shift)!
> > I bet your missing at least one person
> >
> > Oh James Martin, 'Charlie Fox', but he's missing too!
>
>
> I thought Fox didn't show up at KHJ until after
> Spears...either under Sebastian in the 9 months before the
> "All Music" approach or under Chuck Martin after Sebastian
> left(Johnny Williams' 440.com shows him at KFI in '77 and
> arriving at KHJ in 1979). If that's wrong, then he
> absolutely should be on the list. And he's not completely
> missing...he comments quite frequently on the exhibits at
> Reelradio.
>
> ---Michael Hagerty
>
Sure I could be wrong with the Fox Man's time frame at KHJ. (Where is he writing in from, what has he said?.) K-EARTH hired Danny Martinez for Weekends & Fill in, but he's gone again. KZLA still lists Freeman as a Weekender. I worked with all 3 of them, great guys. Michael, do you know what Drake & Watson are currently working on?. And even if you don't, do you remember the line up of that Boss Satellite format they put on about 12 years back?. Pretty sure Fox went 'with'. And getting back to that giant list, would Pat Garret (the Unknown Disc Jockey) or Pat Evans have made it? I recently tried to ask DSW, Dave Sebastian Williams a question or two about the final years of KHJ, he didn't remember. This coming from the guy who launched the first minute of Smokin' Oldies (his last Shift)!
> > I bet your missing at least one person
> >
> > Oh James Martin, 'Charlie Fox', but he's missing too!
>
>
> I thought Fox didn't show up at KHJ until after
> Spears...either under Sebastian in the 9 months before the
> "All Music" approach or under Chuck Martin after Sebastian
> left(Johnny Williams' 440.com shows him at KFI in '77 and
> arriving at KHJ in 1979). If that's wrong, then he
> absolutely should be on the list. And he's not completely
> missing...he comments quite frequently on the exhibits at
> Reelradio.
>
> ---Michael Hagerty
>
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michaelhagerty
Guest
Re: a Final thought or two..
> Sure I could be wrong with the Fox Man's time frame at KHJ.
> (Where is he writing in from, what has he said?.) K-EARTH
> hired Danny Martinez for Weekends & Fill in, but he's gone
> again. KZLA still lists Freeman as a Weekender. I worked
> with all 3 of them, great guys. Michael, do you know what
> Drake & Watson are currently working on?. And even if you
> don't, do you remember the line up of that Boss Satellite
> format they put on about 12 years back?. Pretty sure Fox
> went 'with'. And getting back to that giant list, would Pat
> Garret (the Unknown Disc Jockey) or Pat Evans have made it?
> I recently tried to ask DSW, Dave Sebastian Williams a
> question or two about the final years of KHJ, he didn't
> remember. This coming from the guy who launched the first
> minute of Smokin' Oldies (his last Shift)!
Miami:
Charlie comments on airchecks of people he's worked with and stations he's worked for. Just this week or last, he posted a comment to a Hal Martin KLIF aircheck because Hal (better known as Michael Spears)'s next stop was CKLW, where they worked together.
I hear the same thing you do...that Drake's working on a satellite oldies format. I never heard a jock lineup for the last attempt: Jones Radio's "Goldies" back in 1990. There were also rumors of a "Rock & Rolldies" satellite format in the mid-late 90s, but nothing ever came of that, either.
I THOUGHT the list was every jock who worked at KHJ from April 27, 1965 (the Boss Radio "Sneak Preview") until John Sebastian arrived in the fall of 1977.
But you know what? I'm wrong. Not about Charlie, I'm pretty sure, but SONNY Fox was at KHJ in late '72 and early '73...for about six months, tops. Sonny's alive and well and hosting (possibly even PDing) XM's Comedy channel.
Garrett and Evans came later, as (I'm pretty sure) did Charlie Fox, Don Cox, The True Don Bleu, Rick Dees, Banana Joe and a handful of others before the flip to Country in fall '80.
As for Dave Sebastian Williams and his memory...hey, in a few weeks, it will be 20 years since the KHJ call letters died (at least temporarily), 26 years since the flip to Country, 28 years since John Sebastian, 29 years since Charlie Van Dyke left the building, 33 years since Morgan, Steele and Drake last graced Melrose, 37 years since Ron Jacobs said Aloha to RKO and 41 years since Boss Radio launched. Long, long, time...all of it. As much as I loved it, this is analogous to sitting around in 1965 when Drake and Jacobs were putting Boss Radio on the air and discussing what the station was doing in 1924, and if it could be done again with the same people.
---Michael Hagerty
> Sure I could be wrong with the Fox Man's time frame at KHJ.
> (Where is he writing in from, what has he said?.) K-EARTH
> hired Danny Martinez for Weekends & Fill in, but he's gone
> again. KZLA still lists Freeman as a Weekender. I worked
> with all 3 of them, great guys. Michael, do you know what
> Drake & Watson are currently working on?. And even if you
> don't, do you remember the line up of that Boss Satellite
> format they put on about 12 years back?. Pretty sure Fox
> went 'with'. And getting back to that giant list, would Pat
> Garret (the Unknown Disc Jockey) or Pat Evans have made it?
> I recently tried to ask DSW, Dave Sebastian Williams a
> question or two about the final years of KHJ, he didn't
> remember. This coming from the guy who launched the first
> minute of Smokin' Oldies (his last Shift)!
Miami:
Charlie comments on airchecks of people he's worked with and stations he's worked for. Just this week or last, he posted a comment to a Hal Martin KLIF aircheck because Hal (better known as Michael Spears)'s next stop was CKLW, where they worked together.
I hear the same thing you do...that Drake's working on a satellite oldies format. I never heard a jock lineup for the last attempt: Jones Radio's "Goldies" back in 1990. There were also rumors of a "Rock & Rolldies" satellite format in the mid-late 90s, but nothing ever came of that, either.
I THOUGHT the list was every jock who worked at KHJ from April 27, 1965 (the Boss Radio "Sneak Preview") until John Sebastian arrived in the fall of 1977.
But you know what? I'm wrong. Not about Charlie, I'm pretty sure, but SONNY Fox was at KHJ in late '72 and early '73...for about six months, tops. Sonny's alive and well and hosting (possibly even PDing) XM's Comedy channel.
Garrett and Evans came later, as (I'm pretty sure) did Charlie Fox, Don Cox, The True Don Bleu, Rick Dees, Banana Joe and a handful of others before the flip to Country in fall '80.
As for Dave Sebastian Williams and his memory...hey, in a few weeks, it will be 20 years since the KHJ call letters died (at least temporarily), 26 years since the flip to Country, 28 years since John Sebastian, 29 years since Charlie Van Dyke left the building, 33 years since Morgan, Steele and Drake last graced Melrose, 37 years since Ron Jacobs said Aloha to RKO and 41 years since Boss Radio launched. Long, long, time...all of it. As much as I loved it, this is analogous to sitting around in 1965 when Drake and Jacobs were putting Boss Radio on the air and discussing what the station was doing in 1924, and if it could be done again with the same people.
---Michael Hagerty
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miamimadman
Guest
You out foxed me!
As many of us did, I pretty much stopped listening to KHJ in the mid 70's, as Rick Carroll was doing his magic at KKDJ. My Car however loved KHJ, and I'm not talking "Car Radio". My Challenger only had an AM Radio, and an 8 Track player.
I never understood why 93.1 KODJ didn't launch as Boss Radio 93 KHJ. It was a once in a lifetime chance. There has to be more than a handful of people who thought so, obviously not at CBS?. Anyway all those names you listed brought up great memories (those I knew). In 1982 I worked with Bobby Tripp's son Reese at Gelson's, kind of like a gourmet Bashas. In any case, thanks for keeping things historically correct. Now if we can only work on Wikipedia's mistake about AM 930... **They continued to simulcast KRTH-FM's Oldies format until 1989.**
Happy Holidays, thanks for checking in!
As many of us did, I pretty much stopped listening to KHJ in the mid 70's, as Rick Carroll was doing his magic at KKDJ. My Car however loved KHJ, and I'm not talking "Car Radio". My Challenger only had an AM Radio, and an 8 Track player.
I never understood why 93.1 KODJ didn't launch as Boss Radio 93 KHJ. It was a once in a lifetime chance. There has to be more than a handful of people who thought so, obviously not at CBS?. Anyway all those names you listed brought up great memories (those I knew). In 1982 I worked with Bobby Tripp's son Reese at Gelson's, kind of like a gourmet Bashas. In any case, thanks for keeping things historically correct. Now if we can only work on Wikipedia's mistake about AM 930... **They continued to simulcast KRTH-FM's Oldies format until 1989.**
Happy Holidays, thanks for checking in!
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michaelhagerty
Guest
Re: You out foxed me!
>In 1982 I worked with Bobby Tripp's
> son Reese at Gelson's, kind of like a gourmet Bashas.
Actually, there is a gourmet Bashas...it's called AJ's (owned by Bashas). It's kind of like Gelson's.....
;-)
---Michael Hagerty
(wondering how, after Gelson's, Miamimadman fares at Publix)
>In 1982 I worked with Bobby Tripp's
> son Reese at Gelson's, kind of like a gourmet Bashas.
Actually, there is a gourmet Bashas...it's called AJ's (owned by Bashas). It's kind of like Gelson's.....
;-)
---Michael Hagerty
(wondering how, after Gelson's, Miamimadman fares at Publix)
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miamimadman
Guest
Publix, how do you know Publix?
(wondering how, after Gelson's, Miamimadman fares at Publix)
The best part of living here, and I hope to leave Miami real soon is Publix!. They might be the best large chain I have ever seen. Of course I try to stay away from the whole Pigs this time of year. It's always freaky to see something with eyes in the Meat case!. We also have an Electronics store called BrandsMart. It's like the Roman Coliseum with real live Customer fights
(wondering how, after Gelson's, Miamimadman fares at Publix)
The best part of living here, and I hope to leave Miami real soon is Publix!. They might be the best large chain I have ever seen. Of course I try to stay away from the whole Pigs this time of year. It's always freaky to see something with eyes in the Meat case!. We also have an Electronics store called BrandsMart. It's like the Roman Coliseum with real live Customer fights
D
dbdigital
Guest
Re: KHJ, KFWB and KRLA ... loved them ... great idea here!
> > After looking over the Boss Radio website recently, I had
> a
> > question of feasability. The music playlists were very
> > broad...at least by today's standards. It seems to me
> that
> > a station looking to make a good niche in this market
> could,
> > if they did their homework, bring back the playlist/format
>
> > (although the jocks can never be duplicated) and have some
>
> > moderate success. It seems to be a combination of rock &
> > roll and some of what we would now classify as MOR. I
> would
> > imagine the target demo would average 35+ but if it was
> done
> > right you may have a viable format that would keep
> stations
> > like KRTH from sounding so repetitive. It seems to me
> that
> > maybe the time is right, what with the baby boomer
> > generation looking for something that would remind them of
>
> > their younger days (I qualify in this category). Anyway,
> > that's my thought, I'd appreciate yours!
>
>
> I agree ... and some of the jocks from that era are still
> alive and might like to recreate their youth so to speak.
>
> Great idea!
>
> I liked the personality of KFWB and KRLA and the tightness
> of KHJ in the 1960s. To be honest, I liked KFWB and KRLA
> best. KRRRRRRLA had a huge playlist at one time ... great
> jocks.
>
> All of them did.
>
> But Bill Drake cleaned up radio ... He once told a jock,
> "Man you talk a lot."
>
> A mix of music and personality ... it is a fine line to be
> sure.
>
The Boss Jocks of KHJ as well as Dave "Hullabaloo" Hull and the others over at KRLA were true radio superheros (and look where KRLA is today...in the toilet).
I may be getting old, but when I hear the likes of Ryan Seacrest and how lame his shtick is, it makes me long to hear all those guys again.
And it has nothing to do with nostalgia, the "Real" Don Steele, Humble Harv and all those other cats just knew how to make great radio.
db
> > After looking over the Boss Radio website recently, I had
> a
> > question of feasability. The music playlists were very
> > broad...at least by today's standards. It seems to me
> that
> > a station looking to make a good niche in this market
> could,
> > if they did their homework, bring back the playlist/format
>
> > (although the jocks can never be duplicated) and have some
>
> > moderate success. It seems to be a combination of rock &
> > roll and some of what we would now classify as MOR. I
> would
> > imagine the target demo would average 35+ but if it was
> done
> > right you may have a viable format that would keep
> stations
> > like KRTH from sounding so repetitive. It seems to me
> that
> > maybe the time is right, what with the baby boomer
> > generation looking for something that would remind them of
>
> > their younger days (I qualify in this category). Anyway,
> > that's my thought, I'd appreciate yours!
>
>
> I agree ... and some of the jocks from that era are still
> alive and might like to recreate their youth so to speak.
>
> Great idea!
>
> I liked the personality of KFWB and KRLA and the tightness
> of KHJ in the 1960s. To be honest, I liked KFWB and KRLA
> best. KRRRRRRLA had a huge playlist at one time ... great
> jocks.
>
> All of them did.
>
> But Bill Drake cleaned up radio ... He once told a jock,
> "Man you talk a lot."
>
> A mix of music and personality ... it is a fine line to be
> sure.
>
The Boss Jocks of KHJ as well as Dave "Hullabaloo" Hull and the others over at KRLA were true radio superheros (and look where KRLA is today...in the toilet).
I may be getting old, but when I hear the likes of Ryan Seacrest and how lame his shtick is, it makes me long to hear all those guys again.
And it has nothing to do with nostalgia, the "Real" Don Steele, Humble Harv and all those other cats just knew how to make great radio.
db
Mason Dixon?
> Mason Dixon: Dead.
I think he still does mornings at Q 105 in Tampa.
> Mason Dixon: Dead.
I think he still does mornings at Q 105 in Tampa.
K
KMRichards
Guest
Re: Mason Dixon?
> > Mason Dixon: Dead.
>
> I think he still does mornings at Q 105 in Tampa.
Sure seems so:
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.oldies1047.com/masondixon.html>http://www.oldies1047.com/masondixon.html</a>
Unless it's a different Mason Dixon.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> > Mason Dixon: Dead.
>
> I think he still does mornings at Q 105 in Tampa.
Sure seems so:
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.oldies1047.com/masondixon.html>http://www.oldies1047.com/masondixon.html</a>
Unless it's a different Mason Dixon.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
Re: Mason Dixon?
> > > Mason Dixon: Dead.
> >
> > I think he still does mornings at Q 105 in Tampa.
>
> Sure seems so:
>
> http://www.oldies1047.com/masondixon.html
>
> Unless it's a different Mason Dixon.
>
If it's the same Mason Dixon who also worked in San Diego?
Yeah, he's at Q105 in Tampa, although he did get into a life threatening car wreck about a year ago. He's better now, and back on the radio, here's his web site: http://www.masondixonradio.com/
> > > Mason Dixon: Dead.
> >
> > I think he still does mornings at Q 105 in Tampa.
>
> Sure seems so:
>
> http://www.oldies1047.com/masondixon.html
>
> Unless it's a different Mason Dixon.
>
If it's the same Mason Dixon who also worked in San Diego?
Yeah, he's at Q105 in Tampa, although he did get into a life threatening car wreck about a year ago. He's better now, and back on the radio, here's his web site: http://www.masondixonradio.com/
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michaelhagerty
Guest
Re: I thought Dees Worked at KHJ
> There is no mention of him on the website, so is my memory
> failing me? Did Rick Dees work at Boss Radio KHJ?
>
StephL:
Yes, but at the very end. Rick arrived in the spring of 1979 and was there until the flip to Country in fall 1980. By that point, KHJ was pretty much over. Here are the Arbitron 12+ numbers for contemporary music stations (including adult contemporary, album rock and oldies) for 1979 from Dees' arrival onward:
April/May 1979:
KMET 5.8
KMPC 3.7
KRLA 3.5
KRTH 3.3
KIIS 3.0
KLOS 2.6
KTNQ 2.4
KFI 2.1
KHJ 2.1
KIQQ 1.8
July/August 1979:
KMET 6.4
KRTH 3.8
KMPC 3.8
KIIS 3.4
KRLA 3.2
KFI 2.9
KLOS 2.6
KTNQ 2.1
KIQQ 1.9
KHJ 1.8
October/November 1979(with TenQ gone):
KMET 5.8
KRTH: 3.8
KRLA: 3.7
KIIS 3.6
KFI 3.3
KMPC 2.8
KHJ 2.4
KLOS 2.2
KIQQ 1.5
KHJ's uptick might have been Rick's morning show, but it is also likely a splitting of the audience (with KFI) that was abandoned when KTNQ went Spanish.
By the way, the rankings may make KHJ look like at least a top 10 station...it wasn't. KABC, KJOI, KBIG, KOST, KFWB and KNX all had better numbers...bumping KHJ out of the top 10....meaning very few people heard Rick on KHJ. He wasn't a star (in L.A. radio) until KIIS.
> There is no mention of him on the website, so is my memory
> failing me? Did Rick Dees work at Boss Radio KHJ?
>
StephL:
Yes, but at the very end. Rick arrived in the spring of 1979 and was there until the flip to Country in fall 1980. By that point, KHJ was pretty much over. Here are the Arbitron 12+ numbers for contemporary music stations (including adult contemporary, album rock and oldies) for 1979 from Dees' arrival onward:
April/May 1979:
KMET 5.8
KMPC 3.7
KRLA 3.5
KRTH 3.3
KIIS 3.0
KLOS 2.6
KTNQ 2.4
KFI 2.1
KHJ 2.1
KIQQ 1.8
July/August 1979:
KMET 6.4
KRTH 3.8
KMPC 3.8
KIIS 3.4
KRLA 3.2
KFI 2.9
KLOS 2.6
KTNQ 2.1
KIQQ 1.9
KHJ 1.8
October/November 1979(with TenQ gone):
KMET 5.8
KRTH: 3.8
KRLA: 3.7
KIIS 3.6
KFI 3.3
KMPC 2.8
KHJ 2.4
KLOS 2.2
KIQQ 1.5
KHJ's uptick might have been Rick's morning show, but it is also likely a splitting of the audience (with KFI) that was abandoned when KTNQ went Spanish.
By the way, the rankings may make KHJ look like at least a top 10 station...it wasn't. KABC, KJOI, KBIG, KOST, KFWB and KNX all had better numbers...bumping KHJ out of the top 10....meaning very few people heard Rick on KHJ. He wasn't a star (in L.A. radio) until KIIS.
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michaelhagerty
Guest
Mason Dixon: Alive and Well.
My apologies to Mason and everyone else. In the blur of radio tragedies the last year or so, I remembered the wreck and forgot the recovery. I'm thrilled he's okay.
The original post has been edited to correct the error.
Again, my apologies.
---Michael Hagerty
My apologies to Mason and everyone else. In the blur of radio tragedies the last year or so, I remembered the wreck and forgot the recovery. I'm thrilled he's okay.
The original post has been edited to correct the error.
Again, my apologies.
---Michael Hagerty
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