Boston is back in the top 10

[OlderRadioGuy]

by a nose ...

according to Radio World News Bytes
http://www.radioworld.com/pages/s.0100/t.8639.html

 

[Laurence Glavin]

A story on the business pages of the Globe reported that well over two-million houses are EMPTY in the United States; I wouldn't be surprised if a significant percentage of them are in the Detroit area. This may not be a boost for Boston and vicinity, just Detroit's loss. Now how about Nielsen's TV market rankings?

 

[newhampshiredude]

A story on the business pages of the Globe reported that well over two-million houses are EMPTY in the United States; I wouldn't be surprised if a significant percentage of them are in the Detroit area. This may not be a boost for Boston and vicinity, just Detroit's loss. Now how about Nielsen's TV market rankings?

The Neilsen ratings don't really matter in this case because they include the Manchester area of New Hampshire, which is growing rapidly right noe. Manchester is trying to balance the losses in the Boston area. I agree though that most of those homesare porbably around Detroit. Its really too bad what is happening with the economic situation in Detroit now.

 

[Laurence Glavin]

A story on the business pages of the Globe reported that well over two-million houses are EMPTY in the United States; I wouldn't be surprised if a significant percentage of them are in the Detroit area. This may not be a boost for Boston and vicinity, just Detroit's loss. Now how about Nielsen's TV market rankings?

The Neilsen ratings don't really matter in this case because they include the Manchester area of New Hampshire, which is growing rapidly right noe. Manchester is trying to balance the losses in the Boston area. I agree though that most of those homesare porbably around Detroit. Its really too bad what is happening with the economic situation in Detroit now.

I drive an American-nameplate car, but I believe it was built in Mexico.

 

[rapking]

Phoenix and MIA ( Miami FL ) will pass Boston soon .

 

[neggy1]

If your VIN number starts with a 3 it is mexican built

2 is canadian

1 is U.S. of A.

J is Japan

W is Germany

 

[Finn]

aren't you talking about final assembly? that doesn't consider where all the parts are made.

I've heard that Hondas have a higher percentage of US-sourced manufacturing than most US-headquartered companies. Don't quote me though.

 

[BRNout]

The Neilsen ratings don't really matter in this case because they include the Manchester area of New Hampshire, which is growing rapidly right noe. Manchester is trying to balance the losses in the Boston area.

I thought Manchester was its own radio market - though it is part of the much larger Boston TV market. Much of the Nashua/Salem area has been absorbed into the Boston radio market and that has helped to keep Boston from falling lower than it is. Those communities were taken from the Manchester market a number of years ago (IIRC).

But, I'm pretty sure that Manchester and its environs comprise their own market - and it is not an "embedded" market, either.

 

[newhampshiredude]

The Neilsen ratings don't really matter in this case because they include the Manchester area of New Hampshire, which is growing rapidly right noe. Manchester is trying to balance the losses in the Boston area.

I thought Manchester was its own radio market - though it is part of the much larger Boston TV market. Much of the Nashua/Salem area has been absorbed into the Boston radio market and that has helped to keep Boston from falling lower than it is. Those communities were taken from the Manchester market a number of years ago (IIRC).

But, I'm pretty sure that Manchester and its environs comprise their own market - and it is not an "embedded" market, either.

Ahhh...hello I live here and it definitley is. We have only one major channel, WMUR (ABC)

 

[BRNout]

Ahhh...hello I live here and it definitley is. We have only one major channel, WMUR (ABC)

Hello right back at ya! And, I am a fellow Granite Stater - temporarily exiled to a much less attractive place!

Let me enlighten you a bit about this business of markets - as it can be confusing. The post is referring to the Boston Radio market. That market involves a more limited area than the Boston TV Market that you are referring to . Radio is measured by Arbitron, TV by Nielsen.

Yes, the Boston TV market extends north to Merrimack County, east to Rockingham County and west to Windham County, Vermont. But, the Boston Radio Market does not. It is limited to places that are much closer in. For example, Keene is in the Boston TV market - but they can hardly receive Boston radio stations at all. They are not in the Boston radio market. Nor are Worcester or Cape Cod or Manchester or Portsmouth. Each is in its own respective radio market. For example, WZID is usually #1 in the Manchester market.

You seem to be confusing the two. The Boston TV market has never fallen from the Top 10 (it's 8th?) - but radio just went back up from 11 to 10. That's because TV covers a much larger area. Hope that clears it up a bit.

 

[DanStrassberg]

Nor are Worcester or Cape Cod or Manchester or Portsmouth. Each is in its own respective radio market.

I think you are wrong about Worcester. I believe the Worcester radio market is considered to be embedded within the Boston radio market. Although, with the exception of WCRN, which is definitely listenable in the western sections of what most of us think of as the Boston radio market as well as WSRS and WXLO, which are audible thoughout Greater Boston (WXLO is licensed to the Worcester COUNTY city of Fitchburg--not to the City of Worcester), I think Worcester IS officially part of (that is, embedded within) the Boston market--at least as far as the FCC is concerned. I'm pretty sure that Entercom's Worcester property, WVEI (AM) and its former Worcester property, WAAF (now licensed to Westborough, I believe) count against Entercom's ownership with respect to Boston-market radio-ownership caps. Because WAAF has been programmed as a Boston signal for decades--long before its CoL and Tx moves, and still longer before the acquisition of simulcast WKAF--it seems unlikely that many people would dispute its being counted as a Boston market station. Many people might say the same about WXLO, although I don't think it really targets Boston. But WVEI, like most of the Worcester AMs, is pretty much inaudible in any part of the Boston market, save for the western fringes of MetroWest during the daytime.

 

[DavidZ]

I believe the Worcester radio market is considered to be embedded within the Boston radio market.
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I don't think so, in fact the Worcester radio market is ranked # 116 according to the latest rankings that places Boston back in the Top 10.