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boston needs a station like this

I agree, but everyone always get mad at us when we say that here. Over here in Boston, what suxx is that there are way too many Rock and Roll stations. Not everyone likes Rock and Roll music. It is a sin what happened to Star 93.7. That was like one of the best station, but after Disco Vinnie passing, about two weeks later, they changed their format to "93.7 Mike FM"
What they could've done is, if they didn't want radio announcers, change it to a simular format. There's another Entercom station that I'm listenning to now "My 107.9" which is very much simular to (Kiss 108, Magic 106.7, 1090 WILD, and WZLX) put together in four. As a matter of fact, they play a lot of great Urban AC music of the past 1980s-Today. They are playing a "Saturday Night Dance Party" some songs they've been playing tonight are "Jack and Diane" by John Couger mixed with Don't Be Cruel" (Remix) by Bobby Brown, Mixed with "I Can't Wait" (Remix) Nu Shoes, "Beautiful Life" by Ace of Base, "Ride wit Me"-By Nelly, "Knocked Out (Remix)-Paula Abdul, Give It To Me By Rick James, Chaines Of Love By: Erasure, Crush On You by: Jets, and Girls Just Want To Have Fun By: Cindy Lauper. Some of their normal playlist include (She will Be Loved By Maroon 5, Make Me Lose By Eric Carmen, That's The Way Love Goes By Janet Jackson, The Power Of Love By Huey Lewis, Satisfied BY: Richard Marx, Whata Man By Salt n Pepper, You Dropped The Bomb On Me by Gap Band.
With all these pirate stations in Boston, yes @Rapking, I agree, Boston Radio Management need to sit around the round table and put their head together and make a good radio stations. I'd say, why not it be 93.7, since they took away Star 93.7 away like that. That was one of the best stations Boston had. If they can't put on Radio Hosts on there, at least do like their sister station My 107.9 in Indianapilis. My 107.9 is just how Star 93.7 was, but also sounds like WZLX. It sounds simular to "93.7 Mike FM" but way better than Mike FM.
Why can't 93.7 just do like this. My idea is bring back "Star 93.7" or at least put something simular on, make it "My 93.7" and do like their sister station "My 107.9" Change to that kind of format, get a better signal all around Inside Boston, Instead of 103.3 getting a new signal in Boston, have 93.7 get that signal, and change their format. Radio Management has to do something and get some format, if they can not get an Urban AC format, than one of 106.7, 104.1, or 93.7 focus more on NEW Urban AC music.
 
another idea I have is. Do either or
-Mix 104.1 put on "Keith Sweat Hotel" on Monday-Thursday 7pm-Midnight, and on the weekend put on some Urban AC Syndicated Shows (example) "The Countdown" with Walt Baby Love (example).
-Another Idea might be, change the name of the station to "Fresh 104.1" Keep the same Radio Host on, put on "Keith Sweat Hotel Monday-Thursday 7pm-Midnight, and add some Urban AC Syndicated Shows, and focus more on NEW Urban AC music. You all made this topic, these are my ideas.
-If They can't do this, my next idea is, 93.7 should change to "My 93.7" have that format be AC, but focus on more
NEW Urban AC music and have on Urban AC Syndicated shows on weekends. Keep their current signal, and add a better signal inside Boston. If they can't afford to get that signal coverages, there are alternatives such as drop one of the WEEI affilates. Radio Management has to put their head together and sit around the round table and come up with ideas to get a good radio station.
 
poor new jersey...

there are dozens of top 40, rhythmic, hip hop, AC, urban AC, etc stations up and down their coastline, and there are now ZERO alternative stations in the state.

ok, I don't feel that bad, it's Jersey after all.
 
Why does Laura always pick our station for a flip? :-\ I think we're #1 in adults on the weekends, w/live and local jocks teamed up w/fun programming. I don't understand why anyone would want to exchange that for syndicated programming.
 
karsonwithak said:
Why does Laura always pick our station for a flip? :-\ I think we're #1 in adults on the weekends, w/live and local jocks teamed up w/fun programming. I don't understand why anyone would want to exchange that for syndicated programming.

Precisely. And that's why you have a job in radio and he doesn't.

Seriously, does he not understand that Mix is the whitest station in town other than WKLB? They won't even play "Just Dance" with the black singing in it. What on God's green Earth makes him believe that Mix, in a city full of white people, would air syndicated urban programming? This is not Chicago or Atlanta.
 
When a station doesn't make the amount of money the ownership feels it should, then they flip.

As long as there is money being made, they are not going to d*ck with it, unless they know they have a proven product that will take right off, or they can cut expenses to make the bottom line better.

CBS held onto WBCN long past it's expiration date, they pulled the plug, and from what I can see even a year into the flip they are doing better than most people predicted. It takes a while to get a new format profitable doesn't it?

I am not a programmer and don't profess to have any expertise in it, but until the economy turns around and companies start buying spots again, I would think that the radio companies in this market are going to ride it out for a while without any flips from the major players. The talent may come and go, but the song will remain the same.

The formats that people on this board repeatedly say we need in this market, cater to the demographic with the least amount of disposable income, and that is a hard sell to a client, who can take the same dollars and get a better return on it elsewhere. IMHO that is why it is going to be status quo for the foreseeable future, at least on the FM Commercial dial
 
MRBIboredop said:
CBS held onto WBCN long past it's expiration date, they pulled the plug, and from what I can see even a year into the flip they are doing better than most people predicted. It takes a while to get a new format profitable doesn't it?

"Mix" wasn't a new format in the market, it was just a frequency change for an existing format. It didn't need to develop a new audience, it was just a matter of getting their existing audience to tune their radio from 98.5 to 104.1.
 
Laura, maybe it would be a better idea if you moved to an area that featured more stations that were your style. If it's Urban formats you fancy, you should check out Memphis. We worked there for about five years and you can usually count on at least eight of the top ten stations being an Urban format. Urban Oldies, Urban Gospel, Urban AC, Urban Rap, Urban Hip Hop & R&B & yes even an AM Urban TALK station that dominates!

http://www.radio-info.com/site/markets/grid/memphis

I think it's similar to living in Miami and complaining that it never snows. It would seem that no matter how many times it has been tried, Urban formats don't do that well in Boston, so most bail. Just as snow would never work well in South Florida! ;)
 
Eli Polonsky said:
"Mix" wasn't a new format in the market, it was just a frequency change for an existing format. It didn't need to develop a new audience, it was just a matter of getting their existing audience to tune their radio from 98.5 to 104.1.

I think most of us knew that already, so I didn't feel the need to clutter the topic up with the frequency swap call letter parking, etc etc etc that went along with it.

Bottom line 16th place give or take wasn't going to cut it, and in a town that is as passionate about it's sports as Boston is, CBS already having 2 of the 4 major sports teams under contract had very little to lose by flipping. There was almost no risk.

If the bean counters thought they could make more profit by playing polka music they'd flip in a heartbeat.
 
well i think its kinda rude to tell someone to move if they dont like the music!! how bout you move karson and take your crappy station with you!! everyone has difffrent tastes what she is trying to say is we need change, we the people thats y there is no more wbcn miss it but i can here the same thing on aaf etc come on now
 
karsonwithak said:
Laura, maybe it would be a better idea if you moved to an area that featured more stations that were your style. If it's Urban formats you fancy, you should check out Memphis. We worked there for about five years and you can usually count on at least eight of the top ten stations being an Urban format. Urban Oldies, Urban Gospel, Urban AC, Urban Rap, Urban Hip Hop & R&B & yes even an AM Urban TALK station that dominates!
http://www.radio-info.com/site/markets/grid/memphis
I think it's similar to living in Miami and complaining that it never snows. It would seem that no matter how many times it has been tried, Urban formats don't do that well in Boston, so most bail. Just as snow would never work well in South Florida! ;)
Thats Lauro ( not Laura ). Just because someone think boston's radio dial is trash does not mean someone should move out . Boston is a GREAT city and I will welcome anyone to Boston . Boston is more than just the CRAP that on the radio dial.
 
Funny I thought cRAP was the stuff we were lucky enough NOT to have on legal licensed professional radio, at least not in any great quantity
 
Well, I apologize if you thought I was telling someone to move. I imagine you didn't notice the WINK ;) at the end of my post. It was meant to denote sarcasm. Something that can be lost on a message board, I guess.
 
Will said:
Seriously, does he not understand that Mix is the whitest station in town other than WKLB? They won't even play "Just Dance" with the black singing in it. What on God's green Earth makes him believe that Mix, in a city full of white people, would air syndicated urban programming? This is not Chicago or Atlanta.

see this is the problem. Everyone calls Boston a white city. This is infuriating. The black and latino populations are continuously slighted. Why do you think there are so many rap and Carribean pirates???? Boston isnt a white city, its a segregated city - socially and economically.

Yes yes radio is about making money and not about providing a service blah blah. But no one has really tried to focus and market an urban station WELL. When R1 sold 97.7 there were three chicks who flipped out in my office. They didnt understand why there was yet another rock station and no lasting urban station. I dont fully understand either. Look at the pirates who clearly have sold ad slots (101.3, 87.7, 99.7, 96.5, 106.1) - there are community dollars out there....a legal station could pull it off. Its just got to have credibility within the community too. Thats what 97.7 had and what 94.5 lacks.
 
robotique said:
Will said:
Seriously, does he not understand that Mix is the whitest station in town other than WKLB? They won't even play "Just Dance" with the black singing in it. What on God's green Earth makes him believe that Mix, in a city full of white people, would air syndicated urban programming? This is not Chicago or Atlanta.

see this is the problem. Everyone calls Boston a white city. This is infuriating. The black and latino populations are continuously slighted. Why do you think there are so many rap and Carribean pirates???? Boston isnt a white city, its a segregated city - socially and economically.

Yes yes radio is about making money and not about providing a service blah blah. But no one has really tried to focus and market an urban station WELL. When R1 sold 97.7 there were three chicks who flipped out in my office. They didnt understand why there was yet another rock station and no lasting urban station. I dont fully understand either. Look at the pirates who clearly have sold ad slots (101.3, 87.7, 99.7, 96.5, 106.1) - there are community dollars out there....a legal station could pull it off. Its just got to have credibility within the community too. Thats what 97.7 had and what 94.5 lacks.
well put, those three ladies in that office, those are the real listenners to radio, who radio management don't pay attention to. These are the real listenners they have to think about. It may be three ladies, but, hey, they have to think about this. Those three ladies could tell people "oh, you should listen to this new 97.7 W I L D, then the 4th person will like it, then he'll tell four more people, then they will like it, they will tell more people, etc etc... These are your real listenners.
 
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