I understand all that. When people here make comments about the ratings at various commercial stations, they don't have access to the revenues at those stations. All they're working off are the 6+ published numbers. So the fact is that as long as the revenues still come in for WODS, it really doesn't matter what the 6+ numbers say. It might surprise people that sometimes a station can have great ratings and bad revenues, and vice versa.
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I understand all that. When people here make comments about the ratings at various commercial stations, they don't have access to the revenues at those stations. All they're working off are the 6+ published numbers. So the fact is that as long as the revenues still come in for WODS, it really doesn't matter what the 6+ numbers say. It might surprise people that sometimes a station can have great ratings and bad revenues, and vice versa.
Listed as WBZU--they are now WKVB I believe--the former WAAF got half again as many listeners as the previous period; but they are listener supported and ratings may not matter as much as mission. (Don't believe they run ads of course.)
Interesting to note that WEEI is the top streaming station in town. The loss they had between Feb & March was made up by streamers.
>>WROR’s HD2 has been off the air for at least a few weeks.
Checked out my HD radio portable last night.
That does seem to be the only absence.I was
even getting the HD2 (news talk?) and HD3 (oldies--WMVX?) of WNNW's FM translator at
102.9 in Lawrence area (reaching Beverly)..WKVB on 100.7 HD3...
etc
Checked out my HD radio portable last night.
That does seem to be the only absence.I was
even getting the HD2 (news talk?) and HD3 (oldies--WMVX?) of WNNW's FM translator at
102.9 in Lawrence area (reaching Beverly)..WKVB on 100.7 HD3...
etc
The Bone is sorely missed... It was programmed by a fellow Rush fan, so there was pretty much one song per hour! The rest of the playlist was pretty excellent too. It's a shame that streaming HD2 stations is rather cost-prohibitive. Always felt that pushing for a streaming audience for the better HD2s gave them a viability that they don't have in broadcast, for obvious reasons.
I was told that the source for K-Love on 100.7 HD3 is not WKVB, it’s WUBG, but I haven’t listened to hear the ID’s.
WODS was transitioning away from the use of the word Oldies in their promotional stuff, I forget exactly what they were using when they flipped in 2012, but there had been no use of the "oldies" moniker in a few years at this point.
If you look at what WODS would has transitioned to over the last 8 years as the P1 listeners birth year migrated ( "oldies is a dying demographic" ) all you have to do is look at the former CBS, now Beasley WRBQ in Tampa where Paula Street landed in 2013 ( she was beached in September 2019 when Beasley dumped a lot of their mid day talent company wide)
WRBQ slowly slid their playlist towards the 80's with some 70's tossed in occasionally... probably nothing before the disco era, no Golden Oldies, no British invasion artists.
Looking at their play list for the last few hours they have spun everything from Tom Petty and Madonna, to Green Day and Adele.
https://q105fm.iheart.com/music/recently-played/
The Greatest Hits, Boston's Greatest Hits of the 60s and 70s ("and now the 80s")
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My bad! Thanks for the correction.
Recently Played Songs on Tampa Bay’s Hits of the ‘80s & More!
April 24, 2020
9:52 PM Eyes Without A Face—Billy Idol
9:48 PM Somebody'S Watching Me—Rockwell
9:38 PM Kokomo—Beach Boys
9:34 PM You Belong To The City—Glenn Frey
9:29 PM Everything She Wants—Wham
9:25 PM Heaven—Bryan Adams
9:21 PM Come On Eileen—Dexy'S Midnight Runners
9:11 PM (You Gotta Fight For Your Right (To Party)—Beastie Boys
9:06 PM Like A Prayer—Madonna
9:02 PM Runaway—Bon Jovi
8:58 PM Kyrie—Mr. Mister
8:54 PM The Warrior—Scandal
8:50 PM Modern Love—David Bowie
8:39 PM In The Air Tonight—Phil Collins
8:35 PM Hungry Like The Wolf—Duran Duran
8:31 PM Girls, Girls, Girls—Motley Crue
8:26 PM How Will I Know—Whitney Houston
8:23 PM 867-5309 (Jenny)—Tommy Tutone
8:19 PM Human—Human League
8:07 PM SEPARATE WAYS (World's Apart)—Journey
8:03 PM Things Can Only Get Better—Howard Jones
8:00 PM Don'T Stand So Close—Police
7:56 PM Never Gonna Give You Up—Rick Astley
7:52 PM Boys Of Summer—Don Henley
7:48 PM I RAN (So Far Away)—A Flock Of Seagulls
7:37 PM Oh Pretty Woman—Van Halen
7:34 PM Sweet Dreams—Eurythmics
7:30 PM Where The Streets Have No Name—U2
7:26 PM Nothing'S Gonna Stop Us Now—Starship
7:20 PM Sweet Child O' Mine—Guns N' Roses
7:16 PM Girls Just Wanna Have Fun—Cyndi Lauper
7:06 PM Eye Of The Tiger—Survivor
7:03 PM Invisible Touch—Genesis
6:59 PM Alone—Heart
6:56 PM I Can'T Go For That—Hall & Oates
6:52 PM White Wedding—Billy Idol
6:48 PM Baby, I Love Your Way—Will To Power
6:36 PM Careless Whisper—Wham!
6:31 PM Head To Toe—Lisa Lisa & The Cult Jam
6:28 PM Summer Of 69—Bryan Adams
6:24 PM The Reflex—Duran Duran
6:20 PM Another One Bites The Dust—Queen
6:16 PM Photograph—Def Leppard
6:12 PM Funky Town—Lipps Inc.
6:10 PM Breakup Song—Greg Kihn Band
6:06 PM Here I Go Again—Whitesnake
6:03 PM Do You Believe In Love—Huey Lewis & The News
5:59 PM She'S A Beauty—Tubes
5:55 PM I Know There's Something Going On—Frida
5:52 PM You Give Love A Bad Name—Bon Jovi
5:40 PM Jack And Diane—John Mellencamp
5:36 PM Wanna Be Startin Somthing—Michael Jackson
5:33 PM Stop Draggin My Heart Around—Stevie Nicks/Tom Petty
5:29 PM Jessies Girl—Rick Springfield
5:26 PM We Belong—Pat Benatar
5:22 PM Footloose—Kenny Loggins
5:18 PM I Hate Myself For Loving You—Joan Jett And The Blackhearts
5:15 PM You May Be Right—Billy Joel
5:10 PM Mony, Mony—Billy Idol
5:06 PM Dress You Up In My Love—Madonna
5:03 PM You Shook Me All Night Long—Ac/Dc
4:59 PM Rock This Town—Stray Cats
4:55 PM All I Need Is A Miracle—Mike & The Mechanics
4:51 PM Dream Weaver—Gary Wright
4:46 PM I Wanna Dance With Somebody—Whitney Houston
4:42 PM It'S The End Of The World—R.E.M.
4:38 PM (I Just) Died In Your Arms—Cutting Crew
4:33 PM Africa—Toto
4:29 PM Barracuda—Heart
4:25 PM Higher Love—Steve Winwood
4:21 PM Is This Love—Whitesnake
4:17 PM Mad About You—Belinda Carlisle
4:13 PM Wanted Dead Or Alive—Bon Jovi
4:08 PM Ordinary World—Duran Duran
4:05 PM Baby Hold On—Eddie Money
4:01 PM Raspberry Beret—Prince
3:57 PM Missing You—John Waite
3:53 PM Hysteria—Def Leppard
3:49 PM Everybody Wants To Rule The World—Tears For Fears
3:44 PM We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions—Queen
3:40 PM (I'Ve Had) The Time Of My Life—Bill Medley & Jennifer Warnes
3:36 PM You Keep Me Hanging On—Kim Wilde
3:32 PM Your Love—Outfield
3:28 PM Bad To The Bone—George Thorogood & The Destroyers
3:24 PM Lights—Journey
3:20 PM Listen To Your Heart—Roxette
3:09 PM Keep On Loving You—Reo Speedwagon
3:06 PM Axel F (Theme From "Beverly Hills Cop)—Harold Faltermeyer
3:02 PM Everybody Wants You—Billy Squier
2:57 PM Never Surrender—Corey Hart
2:53 PM Sweet Emotion—Aerosmith
2:50 PM Like A Virgin—Madonna
2:38 PM Do Ya Think I'M Sexy—Rod Stewart
2:33 PM Paradise City—Guns N' Roses
2:29 PM West End Girls—Pet Shop Boys
2:25 PM Every Breath You Take—Police
2:22 PM Two Princes—Spin Doctors
2:09 PM Come Sail Away—Styx
2:05 PM Hungry Eyes—Eric Carmen
2:01 PM Pour Some Sugar On Me—Def Leppard
1:57 PM Maneater—Hall & Oates
1:53 PM One Way Or Another—Blondie
1:48 PM In Your Eyes—Peter Gabriel
1:37 PM Do You Really Want To Hurt Me—Culture Club
1:33 PM Don'T Look Back—Boston
1:30 PM Down Under—Men At Work
1:26 PM Home Sweet Home—Motley Crue
1:23 PM When Doves Cry—Prince
1:10 PM SEPARATE WAYS (World's Apart)—Journey
1:06 PM Margaritaville—Jimmy Buffett
1:02 PM Take It On The Run—Reo Speedwagon
12:59 PM Vacation—The Go Go'S
12:47 PM Billie Jean—Michael Jackson
12:43 PM I Don'T Wanna Miss A Thing—Aerosmith
12:37 PM Like A Prayer—Madonna
12:33 PM Heartache Tonight—Eagles
12:30 PM Call Me—Blondie
12:27 PM On The Dark Side—John Cafferty & the Beaver Brown B
12:23 PM If You Leave—Omd
12:19 PM Sister Christian—Night Ranger
12:15 PM The Promise—When In Rome
12:11 PM Eye Of The Tiger—Survivor
12:08 PM What A Fool Believes—Doobie Brothers
12:04 PM Stand Back—Stevie Nicks
12:00 PM 1999—Prince
11:55 AM Armageddon It—Def Leppard
11:51 AM Rocket Man—Elton John
11:48 AM I Love Rock And Roll—Joan Jett
11:45 AM Whip It—Devo
11:41 AM Don'T Stop Believin—Journey
11:37 AM Celebration—Kool And The Gang
11:32 AM Goodbye Stranger—Supertramp
11:28 AM Heaven—Bryan Adams
11:25 AM Harden My Heart—Quarterflash
11:21 AM Another One Bites The Dust—Queen
11:10 AM The Tide Is High—Blondie
11:07 AM Feel Like Makin' Love—Bad Company
11:01 AM Rio—Duran Duran
10:57 AM Land Of Confusion—Genesis
10:54 AM I Will Survive—Gloria Gaynor
10:49 AM Never Say Goodbye—Bon Jovi
10:39 AM Rock The Casbah—Clash
10:34 AM Black Velvet—Alannah Miles
10:31 AM Always Something There To Remind Me—Naked Eyes
10:24 AM Hotel California—Eagles
10:21 AM King Of Wishful Thinking—Go West
10:17 AM High On You—Survivor
10:07 AM December 1963—Four Seasons
10:04 AM Here I Go Again—Whitesnake
10:01 AM We Got The Beat—Go Go'S
9:58 AM You Might Think—Cars
9:54 AM Dancing In The Dark—Bruce Springsteen
9:50 AM Don'T You Want Me—Human League
9:38 AM More Than A Feeling—Boston
9:35 AM Who Can It Be Now—Men At Work
9:32 AM Shakin'—Eddie Money
9:29 AM Jessies Girl—Rick Springfield
9:25 AM Animal—Def Leppard
9:22 AM What I Like About You—Romantics
9:18 AM Faithfully—Journey
9:13 AM Escape (The Pina Colada Song)—Rupert Holmes
9:09 AM Mony, Mony—Billy Idol
9:05 AM Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go—Wham
9:01 AM What About Love?—Heart
8:57 AM Runaway—Bon Jovi
8:54 AM Mickey—Toni Basil
8:50 AM You Belong To The City—Glenn Frey
8:47 AM Shattered Dreams—Johnny Hates Jazz
8:42 AM In The Air Tonight—Phil Collins
8:38 AM Just What I Needed—Cars
8:34 AM Let'S Go Crazy—Prince
8:29 AM Losing My Religion—R.E.M.
8:25 AM I Can Dream About You—Dan Hartman
8:21 AM Cuts Like A Knife—Bryan Adams
8:17 AM Open Your Heart—Madonna
8:13 AM Blinded By The Light—Manfred Mann
8:09 AM I Wanna Dance With Somebody—Whitney Houston
8:05 AM Lovin' Every Minute Of It—Loverboy
8:01 AM Take My Breath Away—Berlin
7:58 AM Any Way You Want It—Journey
7:55 AM Our Lips Are Sealed—Go Go'S
7:51 AM Too Much Time On My Hands—Styx
7:47 AM Electric Avenue—Eddy Grant
7:44 AM Rock And Roll All Nite—Kiss
7:40 AM Nothing'S Gonna Stop Us Now—Starship
7:37 AM Keep Your Hands To Yourself—Georgia Satellites
7:33 AM Let'S Hear It For The Boy—Deniece Williams
7:28 AM We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions—Queen
7:23 AM Beat It—Michael Jackson
7:18 AM Hot Blooded—Foreigner
7:06 AM Misunderstanding—Genesis
7:03 AM Keep On Loving You—Reo Speedwagon
6:58 AM Heart Of The Matter—Don Henley
6:54 AM If This Is It—Huey Lewis & The News
6:47 AM The Warrior—Scandal
6:44 AM I'M Still Standing—Elton John
6:39 AM Is This Love—Whitesnake
6:35 AM My Sharona—The Knack
6:31 AM The Final Countdown—Europe
6:26 AM You'Re The One That I Want—Olivia Newton John/John Travolta
Hardly. That station was gone by 1997. WGMS in Washington was still full power commercial classical to 2007. It even outlasted WCRB. WGMS was also still getting great ratings into its final days. But the demographics were awful, and the station became the FM signal for WTOP. The classical format went to non-com WETA, and they still get great ratings today.
That's the problem,the demographics. Classical music isn't easy to get into as a younger person. It's complex music, and most pieces are at least four times longer than the average popular song, sometimes much much longer. I was brought up with it, but never started to appreciate it until I got well into my 50s and current popular styles had passed me by. Now it's more than half of what I listen to, and I learn something new every day. I just wonder what its long-term future is on radio in this country, given that the style originated and was cultivated in the royal courts of Europe, far from the origins of the more rhythmic musical genres that have been on the ascendancy in recent decades. It's easier, I think, for someone who loved the Beatles or Pink Floyd as a younger person to transition to classical in his later years than one whose musical foundations were laid by Snoop Dogg or even Prince.
Until you learn how much of a gangsta Brahms was. He did more drugs than Snoop. Berlioz loved opium.
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