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Boston's Progressive Talk.net comes to Medford

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Varulven

Great meeting at the Medford library...the room kept filling up. Donna Halper and Robin Bergman proved to be very good moderators. Nice to put faces to the names Dan Strassberg and Laurence Glavin.

Sorry I couldn't stay till the end...I spent 90 minutes there tonight. Amazing turnout with the sub zero temperatures.

http://www.bostonprogressivetalk.net
 
Raccoon, I think you would be impressed with this "Deval Patrick" sort of grass routes effort that they've put together. It was a freezing night out and people kept coming in till the room was pretty packed.

Would this happen for Latino radio?
For any of the stations that flipped on 93.7 from The Rock Garden to the Eagle?
Do you think if the dreaded WRKO cleaned house there would be, ahem, people lining up to "BRING BACK CARR"

ha ha...hardly.

this is an amazing situation --- and it is too bad a Jimmy Tingle or someone didn't see the writing on the wall and get us all motivated before they shut the thing down
 
Maybe there will be a grass roots effort to get Howie back on WVMT, etc...When I go up to VT I was able
to hear him easily in Burlington (in fact, the Motel 6 where I usually stay is in Colchester, a few miles
from the WVMT stick. I almost could pick him up on my fillings!) I do know that at night WRKO can barely
be picked up there; one time I was at that Motel 6 on a Sunday night and Brian Maloney was supposed to
be on Pundit Review. Yes I could pick up WRKO but there was a lot of splashover from the 690 in Montreal.

Whether the grass roots effort for prog talk will work or not, who knows. Again, Bob's AM 740 would be an
ideal freq, at least days...

I wouldn't be surprised if Howie might try to jump to GM/WTKK (but where would they put him?) if
contract time comes around and Entercom lowballs him.

update: a post on boston-radio-interest said Howie was on with the WVMT morning guys and hopefully
his show will be back soon. Had to do with raising rights fees, and Doyle's stay will be short lived
 
Varulven said:
Great meeting at the Medford library...the room kept filling up. Donna Halper and Robin Bergman proved to be very good moderators. Nice to put faces to the names Dan Strassberg and Laurence Glavin.

Sorry I couldn't stay till the end...I spent 90 minutes there tonight. Amazing turnout with the sub zero temperatures.

http://www.bostonprogressivetalk.net
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I have a great face for radio, and I'm not even ON the radio.
 
If WRKO got rid of Howie, there would be a much bigger showing than so-called progressives trying to "save" so-called progressive radio.

It has to do with the sponsors. Just because you would "like" a certain type of programming doesn't mean they will offer it. Then again, I guess whoever put on la musica mexicana didn't realize that the illegal aliens wire all their money back to Mexico and Brazil rather than spending it on the sponsors. Unless they run Western Union commercials almost exclusively ;D

The difference is that most of the listeners on WRKO are actually working for a living, long hours, so they don't have a lot of time to get together at the library.
 
Infidel said:
If WRKO got rid of Howie, there would be a much bigger showing than so-called progressives trying to "save" so-called progressive radio.

The difference is that most of the listeners on WRKO are actually working for a living, long hours, so they don't have a lot of time to get together at the library.
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You're probably closer to the truth than many on this board want to admit. I tend to be skeptical of "grass roots" protests in general & ones protesting format changes on radio stations no one listened to in particular. Alas, extremists (of both ends of the spectrum) can be very good at rallying the faithful. In this day & age there is no shortage of places to go if you want to hear/read leftist viewpoints.
 
problem is, oldbones, 95 per cent of the radio is in the hands of the Republicans. So if you've got to go to the "Democratic Underground", it makes it sound...and feel...so "subversive".

Cindy Sheehan isn't a mom who lost her son to a stupid war, she's...Michael Moore's doppelganger!

when you have a bunch of pirates on the radio screaming that Gore and Kerry would put our country in danger, the sheep give the really dangerous cronies enough votes to enable them to steal the White House and put our country into the worst war in the history of the world. A real flashpoint for trouble down the road the likes of which we haven't seen. This is just the beginning, people, bush has opened Pandora's box
 
I just asked you this question in another posting regarding Mo and Saturdays. But this is a more timely thread, I know. A friend of mine was at the Medford meeting.Is it worth calling stations that have some liberal voices on to encourage them? Or is only worth pursuing 'progressive talk stations' like Clear Channel?
 
Infidel said:
It has to do with the sponsors. Just because you would "like" a certain type of programming doesn't mean they will offer it. Then again, I guess whoever put on la musica mexicana didn't realize that the illegal aliens wire all their money back to Mexico and Brazil rather than spending it on the sponsors. Unless they run Western Union commercials almost exclusively ;D
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wow.. that's a pretty offensive comment...
 
There are others. Are you purposely avoiding mentioning them? I see you did in another of your postings in December.
 
>>95 per cent of the radio is in the hands of the Republicans.

Actually most shows tend to be conservative because it's proved well in the ratings, though prog. talk
is making some gains. As I've said before, if they felt it would make money, the big companies would have loaded up big stations with liberal talkers. And who knows, maybe WRKO may drift more to the left...if it proves to be successful, then hey, the free market spoke.

Conservatalk radio is a reply to the liberal dominance of TV* (hello Ms. Couric), newspapers
(the Globe's here!), magazines (Rolling Stoned), music (most artists tends to be liberal, other than the likes
of Ted Nugent), and movies (from Mikey Moore to Alby Gore). Laura I. was talking about this tonight and someone brought up a comment by George Clooney. Basically he was longing for the days when there was only one point of view out there (libs)
and you didn't have the other side being heard at all. Ingraham was objecting to the idea of government
monitoring/approving speech, rather than the free marketplace.

Liberal talk has every right to exist, by putting out compelling shows that people will want to listen to.
Conservatives don't want to squelch the other side's opinions, but the (un)Fairness Doctrine may...

Actually, now that I think of it, let's do it. But it should be fair. Set up a second taxpayer funded
non-commercial network to rival NPR, but with conservative opinions. On TV, I want 3 more conservative
news channels, and Bill O'Reilly must anchor NBC Nightly News. I want Howie Carr to appear in both
the Herald AND Globe. I want teachers to show conservative-based movies along with the left-leaning ones.
For every liberal opinion on radio-info.com, a rebuttal by a conservative is mandated. Fair is fair.

*--actually I think I'll add Fox News' opinion shows to the "reaction to the liberal media". They are now
among the highest rated shows, because there's a demand for it. (The addition of Beck--Glenn, not Jeff--
to CNN Headline News shows that they realized that there IS an audience for a host on the Right--
he declares himself "a conservative but not necessarily a Republican". I'm not sure what king of ratings he gets but he's still on...so CNN may have finally acknowledged the other side...As for broadcast networks,
most tend to lean left...
 
NPR is popular, Raccoon, because people want to hear Progressive radio. The country leans more progressive than conservative. Gingrich's crowd infiltrated radio and were quite effective. You are the lone voice here backing up the movement with your opinion, but as stated before, where I cite facts (Donna Halper, http://www.donnahalper.com is the source of the 5% vs. 95% numbers) you cite opinion.

My opinion is that when an alleged news source has to attack the then 12 year old daughter of The Clintons, it isn't news, it is just mean-spirited child bashing; we later find out that man is a major, major drug addict with clandestine meetings in the Denny's parking lot. He is far worse than Tom Finneran, as is Bill O'Reilly with the sexual harassment escapade. Republicans, by their very nature, need to be held to higher standards. The low, low standards of a Howie Carr or Anne Coulter say it all. http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi

Progressives listen to NPR because their side failed to infiltrate radio effectively. Dan Rather did nothing wrong.

Do you think Limbaugh would've survived as long as Rather with all his faux pas...oh, that's right, he made a derogatory comment about a football player. Which proves my point again. Limbaugh and Coulter are walking parodies. NPR provides fact-based news. Democrats need news that is delivered with a sense of urgency, not the blah blah blah NPR thang. And certainly not the Republican hyperbole and stupidity. That's where Stephanie Miller turns me off. That's where Randi Rhodes being aggressive will do more for us than Ed Schultz let's walk down the middle and really be fair and balanced. Forget balancing the scales with the Republicans getting to be mean and Democrats taking the higher road. Democrats need to get this country functioning again. A trillion dollars and more for a lie is treasonous; killing the sons and daughters of America is a truly High Crime.

Iraqis want us out of Iraq. They can handle it. Bush is lying again because he's clutching the green zone with all his might, and no amount of blood will satisfy him. He's like a comic book collector who wants
Spiderman #1 and will use other people's money to get it.
 
>>because people want to hear Progressive radio.

10 times as many people in Boston wanted to hear country music :) (12+ ratings) Though at least 'KLB is on a signal you can hear. Will AAR sign up Dixie Chicks to, like, um, er, do a political talk show?

>>Dan Rather did nothing wrong.

I can't picture him airing a hit piece on a President Kerry...the day before the DNC was due to start an
ad campaign attacking Bush for non-service in T.A.N.G., the 60 Minutes II piece ran. Planet of the (Mary)
Mapes.

>>Gingrich's crowd infiltrated radio and were quite effective.

They did it well and were countering the liberal media elsewhere. Had it not been for huge lib media bias,
Limbaugh would have been a failure. He provided an alternative view, much as the way rock and roll
burst through to provide an alternative to Lawrence Welk music. Well, I do invite "bigger stations" to run liberal talk just so we can
see how popular it could become. No takers...? Afraid the ratings may plummet...? (Though WBZ has
centrists and WTKK does have E&B)
 
Varulven said:
NPR is popular, Raccoon, because people want to hear Progressive radio. The country leans more progressive than conservative.
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Why do you insist on using "progressive" as a synonym for "liberal". The 2 words do not mean the same thing! Massachusetts is a very liberal state, but in many ways is very resistant to change....witness the resounding defeat of a ballot question allowing wine to be sold in convenience stores. Witness the long resistance to allowing stores to open on Sunday. Etc.

I don't know where you get your opinion that the country leans more liberal than conservative. Maybe you ought to get out more often.
 
Varulven said:
Iraqis want us out of Iraq.
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You've spoken to how many Iraqis? Just because they told you this on NPR does not make it factual. If they wanted us gone, we'd be gone. No one wants us there any longer than we need to be.

They can handle it.
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Handle what? They've been killing each other for several centuries in that region. If we leave now, peace will magically appear?
 
Varulven said:
Cindy Sheehan isn't a mom who lost her son to a stupid war, she's...Michael Moore's doppelganger!
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At the risk of straying off-topic which I seem to do regularly, lol, I'd have to agree with this statement, now more so than ever.

Originally when she was protesting the war in Iraq, I was like OK whatever, she's in grief and feels her son's death was unjustified. Cool. Whatever.

Now it seems she's enjoyed her 15 minutes of fame and attempting to acquire more free time. Why else would she make a trip to South Korea ?!? to rally support for those who oppose base expansion at Camp Humphreys? For those not in the know, the reason to expand Humphreys is to enable the US Army to return valuable land to the government of the Republic of Korea located nearly in the middle of Seoul amongst other places, and to shut down smaller camps in the surrounding areas to not only give land back to the locals, but also to consolidate operations and cut costs for the U.S. taxpayer. Land that could probably be turned over within the next 50 years or so if tensions decrease (or if North Korea should detonate itself with their own nukes). ;D A reminder that the land was purchased fair and square from the folks that OWNED it (not the squatters that are living there) from the KOREAN GOVT.

So is Cindy Sheehan against cutting costs to the U.S. taxpayer? Or is she meaning to imply that we have no need to be over here, as her knowledge of world affairs is so keen, and we can all go home and have one big party to kick off our anti-military presence overseas and at home so we can be attacked more often on our own soil?
 
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