I just did a rescan and caught Bounce-TV on KDFI's 27-2 stream.
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BOUNCE ON KDFI 27-2
- Thread starter Bob E. Nelson
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You beat me to the punch. 
I just logged in to say exactly that. Looks pretty good.
I just logged in to say exactly that. Looks pretty good.
w9wi said:
Nice idea but it didn't work for me.
One of the troublesome boxes is a CM-7000 (note: this is not the CM-7000PAL DVR, which works fine). Unlike most converter boxes it doesn't allow entry of any channels not picked up by the scan. If you enter 36-anything it just stays on the channel you were on before. (The scan picks up 27-2 OK, but as mentioned earlier it's just a black screen.)
The other box, an Apex DT250, does allow entry of channels by their RF channel number. Unfortunately entering 36-4 shows only a black screen. (36-2, BTW, gets immediately translated to 27-2, which also shows a black screen. 36-1 does go to 27-1, KDFI's main channel, OK.)
Boxes I've confirmed work OK: Funai (Philco/Magnavox) and Echostar (the aforementioned CM-7000PAL DVR), as well as LG DTV's. Interestingly, my Philco is one of the earliest converter boxes to hit the market, so it isn't that newer equipment necessarily works better. Weird.
My Sony TV was receiving HotTV 26.1 when I would tune to 27.1 and nothing when I would try 27.2, so I had to do a rescan. 88 OTA channels now!
I got 85, but KXII wasn't coming in at the time. A nighttime rescan will probably get me back up to 88 streams.
More streams than original episodes of Star Trek (79)! But are there more good streams than there were good episodes (about 30)? That is the question!
BTW, over at AVS Forum they're now saying the Bounce bugs w/ certain receivers have been fixed. Can't wait to get home and see....
More streams than original episodes of Star Trek (79)! But are there more good streams than there were good episodes (about 30)? That is the question!
BTW, over at AVS Forum they're now saying the Bounce bugs w/ certain receivers have been fixed. Can't wait to get home and see....
I wish Time Warner Cable would add Bounce to its line up. Its a hassle to switch video sources while surfing. It was good to see Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids on in Prime Time!!!!!
rantanamo said:
A Home Theater PC w/ two tuners would definitely do the job, and someday everyone will have one. ;D
But for now, the unwashed masses could use an ordinary DTV with two RF inputs (perhaps with HUGE labels "CABLE" and "ANTENNA" to avoid mix-ups and unwanted calls to tech support) and a CableCard slot. Surely such a thing exists somewhere ???
BTW I didn't grok FTW. For The Win? F*** The World? Ft. Worth?
Didn't TV's used to have that feature?JHBrandt said:rantanamo said:
A Home Theater PC w/ two tuners would definitely do the job, and someday everyone will have one. ;D
But for now, the unwashed masses could use an ordinary DTV with two RF inputs (perhaps with HUGE labels "CABLE" and "ANTENNA" to avoid mix-ups and unwanted calls to tech support) and a CableCard slot. Surely such a thing exists somewhere ???
BTW I didn't grok FTW. For The Win? F*** The World? Ft. Worth?
It's possible, but I never saw one. I did buy an analog TV once that scanned both cable and OTA frequencies during the channel scan, though. This was weird because many OTA UHF channels would scan in twice, as both an OTA channel and as a "cable" channel. (OTA 14 was also cable 65, etc.)eskipper411 said:
Some digital TVs do the same, demodulating QAM during the cable scan and 8VSB during the antenna scan. These TV's might let you fake it (sort of) with a simple UHF/VHF splitter/joiner: just connect the cable to the VHF side and the antenna to the UHF side, and you should get all the clear cable channels broadcast on RF 2 through somewhere around RF 40 (depending on where your joiner cuts the VHF side off), plus RF 95-99, and of course all the UHF channels, which are most of the OTA channels.
eskipper411 said:Didn't TV's used to have that feature?JHBrandt said:rantanamo said:
A Home Theater PC w/ two tuners would definitely do the job, and someday everyone will have one. ;D
But for now, the unwashed masses could use an ordinary DTV with two RF inputs (perhaps with HUGE labels "CABLE" and "ANTENNA" to avoid mix-ups and unwanted calls to tech support) and a CableCard slot. Surely such a thing exists somewhere ???
BTW I didn't grok FTW. For The Win? F*** The World? Ft. Worth?
I swear that when I had Dish in the earlier part of the 2000s, it had an antenna outlet that would integrate local hds into the guide. Now I use an HTPC with 4 OTA/QAM tuners and an infinitv4. Integrates all into 1 guide. At the end with Dish, I used a couple of HD-PVRs with the 4 OTA tuners. I guess the downside is using Windows 7 Media Center you have to rely on the Zap2It guide service, which is often slow to change. So I've gone into bothering them everyday mode, to update their guide info to include Bounce at 27-2
rantanamo said:
Sounds a lot like the AM21(N) add-on tuner for DirecTV HD DVRs we've been discussing. Dish probably has something similar; come to think of it, that might have been the genesis of Echostar's DTVPal series of OTA products. But I'm afraid to upgrade my satellite receiver, because if I change my Dish subscription Dish will make me start paying them for the local stations I'm now getting free.
So I'm still using my original Dish Network energy vampire/satellite receiver. It doesn't do anything like that (but I'm sure it was the cheapest model they offered when I signed up for Dish). It does have an RF input and output, but they work like an old VCR: If the receiver is on, it outputs an analog signal on RF 3 or RF 4; otherwise, it just passes the RF input straight through. It doesn't have any sort of OTA tuner, analog or digital. It was intended for TVs with nothing but an RF input, which is all I had back then. (That old TV is in the guest bedroom now.)
Yep. They tried to pull that on me when I changed my Dish subscription and dropped a couple of channels. I had OTA for 2 days then talked them into restoring my deal back like it was, but with the changes I wanted, when I said I was getting 70 OTA channels (at the time) with an antenna, and I found they couldn't even come close to that, plus not paying for unneeded OTA locals was why I went with Dish in the first place. So they did a "one time favor" and took off the OTA and charges but warned any further changes I make next time I would likely get stuck with the locals. So I'm stuck with the programming and receiver I have which is fine for now. Lost the local listings in the Dish TVGOS schedule when they took it off. Even if I use the Dish 722 plug-in OTA tuner I still have to pay the fee to get to see the listings.JHBrandt said:
JHBrandt said:Thanks. I knew I couldn't be the only person who ever thought of this!LibertyNT said:
Though I don't know what's more surprising: that they once made a TV with dual RF inputs, or that Polaroid made TVs
In the back room with the satellite/phone/Muzak/internet/main server equipment at the hotel where I work, there is a small flat-screen Polaroid-made monitor mounted to the rack where the satellite equipment is. I had no idea there were Polaroid TVs/monitors either.
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