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Boxer and Clinton want 'legislative fix' for talk radio

I can think of no evidence to suggest that "balance" would mean the death of talk radio.

That proves only one thing. It proves that you lack imagination.

I might suggest that those folks terrified of "balance" are acutally afraid of being trumped in the marketplace of a free and open expression of ideas.

Yes, you might suggest that. You'd be wrong, but that wouldn't stop you from suggesting it.
 
It is not a free market. It is a regulated market which is regulated by the FCC.

As for being wrong about those who are against balance are terrified of being trumpted in the marketplace of ideas...you can't argue I am wrong because you have absolutely no reference point from which to argue.

Fact is what we have now is the same programming all over the nation. How can a true conservative be against an open exchange of ideas?

I'd argue you're not conservatives...your elitists. Only your opinion matters.
 
justareporter said:
Fact is what we have now is the same programming all over the nation. How can a true conservative be against an open exchange of ideas?
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there already exists 'alternative programming'. Show me a major market where there is no NPR, Alternate talk formats ( say Urban Talk ) or a NonComm for those that dont want to listen to 'conservative talk'.... ::)
 
What part of "balance" on a station don't you get?

What part of "balance is achieved through multiple media" don't you get?

No single station can be all things to all people.
 
That my friend is exactly the problem. The reason WHY you have reduced radio listening (in general) is beacause stations have gone away from "full service' to "no service."

Balance through multiple media would mean that you could have a liberal newspaper, a conservative radio station and a libertarian TV station in the same market and that would be balance? Please.
 
justareporter said:
That my friend is exactly the problem. The reason WHY you have reduced radio listening (in general) is beacause stations have gone away from "full service' to "no service."

Balance through multiple media would mean that you could have a liberal newspaper, a conservative radio station and a libertarian TV station in the same market and that would be balance? Please.
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notice JaR never answers the 'tough questions'?

again: show me the major market without an 'alternative' to conservative talk. If you dont care to listen, I guarantee I can find you something else on the dial to listen to..Be it NPR, a non comm, college radio, etc..

The problem is that JaR isn't happy with the current options. He wants the successful conservative flamethrowers to be forced to put on programming they do not want in the interest of 'balance'.

Want to read a liberal papaer? Pick up the NY Times. Want a conservative paper? Try the WSJ or the NY Post.

Want to watch liberal news? The alphabet networks will suffice. Want a conservative slant? Fox News.

Want conservative talk radio? It exists. Want the 'other side'? NPR.

problem solved. ;)
 
The problem is that JaR isn't happy with the current options.

The problem is that JaR lost his job as a reporter for a radio station when the station switched formats, and he wants his job back.
 
I want the sucessful conservative guys to continue to make money and be sucessful. I just want some "alternate views" on the same stations. It is that giving voice to all sides thing which apparently some of those on this blog are terrified of.

And I must unfortunately remind Mr (or Ms...who knows) Evnlee that a broadcast station comes with a LICENSE to serve the public interest.

As for my job...how do you get to be so wrong? Not even close. Try again.
 
justareporter said:
I want the sucessful conservative guys to continue to make money and be sucessful. I just want some "alternate views" on the same stations.
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you still continue to dodge the question. I understand you want to 'force' stations to put on something they do not want to put on. If they did, it would be on there now. My point: (one you keep avoiding) the alternate views are there, just not on those stations. you want to use the police power of the Fed Govt to make certain programmers do your bidding in the name of 'public interest'. But only 'select' cases. Only 'Talk Radio'. It all sounds very disingenous, considering that if you truly despise 'conservative talk', you can find the 'alternate views' on your radio, you just have to look a little harder.

I do not believe that you honestly want the 'alternate views' aired on those stations. I think you'd rather see the whole format go down the tubes. I'm sure you will say you don't care about my beliefs, or that what I suspect is not true, but that's the only thing that makes sense here. The 'alternate views' are there, in many cases, open debate is heard more on conservative talk then it's liberal counterparts. How many times did you hear Al Franken give out the phone number?

'We must make sure radio is balanced. But not music formats. Not sports formats. Not hot talk. Only Talk Radio.'

sounds very, very 1984-ish to me. Now it's time to call me paranoid, JaR ;)
 
there already exists 'alternative programming'. Show me a major market where there is no NPR, Alternate talk formats ( say Urban Talk ) or a NonComm for those that dont want to listen to 'conservative talk'....


Orlando

No urban talker, No Air America-progressive, and the NPR station plays classical music except for "Morning Edition" and ATC -- four conservative talkers, only two of which have any ratings at all
 
Mr. (or Ms as I am not sure) Evnlee continues to miss the point or fails to understand it. I think STATIONS should be balanced..not whole markets. People listen to these stations and their hosts and we should afford the public a chance to hear all views...not have to run around trying to FIND alternate views...assuming they make it to the airwaves.

I find it mind boggling that many who champion a free and open exchange of ideas find the aforementioned so merit-less.

No one wants to wreck talk radio...in fact providing alternate views on the same station might actually bring in MORE listeners and raise the cume.

And yes...some are paranoid...others mi-informed...and still others scared of a true balanced marketplace of ideas.
 
smedge2006 said:
there already exists 'alternative programming'. Show me a major market where there is no NPR, Alternate talk formats ( say Urban Talk ) or a NonComm for those that dont want to listen to 'conservative talk'....


Orlando

No urban talker, No Air America-progressive, and the NPR station plays classical music except for "Morning Edition" and ATC -- four conservative talkers, only two of which have any ratings at all
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smedge, how can one person be so consitently wrong?

Dont like Hannity? Tune in real radio WTKS 'real radio' for Lex and Terry...Try and tell me they are not 'alternative talk', they are most definitely not 'conservative'. And they dont play records, they take calls and talk. Boom, your wrong again.

WQBQ 1410 AM went 'silent' in 2003/04.. Why didn't you guys buy it and put Err Amerika on it? It then went to 'traveler information' and now......drumroll please...it's Spanish format.

Oh yeah, I think they have 4-5 sports talkers, as well as 2 college stations, PLUS your NPR which you say airs the very conservative 'Morning Edition' ::)

Oh, yeah, Orlando is ranked # 34, it's not even on the 'top 20' markets board....

Thanks for trying! Put some ice on that. ;)

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Dont like Hannity? Tune in real radio WTKS 'real radio' for Lex and Terry...Try and tell me they are not 'alternative talk', they are most definitely not 'conservative'. And they dont play records, they take calls and talk. Boom, your wrong again.

WQBQ 1410 AM went 'silent' in 2003/04.. Why didn't you guys buy it and put Err Amerika on it? It then went to 'traveler information' and now......drumroll please...it's Spanish format.

Oh yeah, I think they have 4-5 sports talkers, as well as 2 college stations, PLUS your NPR which you say airs the very conservative 'Morning Edition'

Oh, yeah, Orlando is ranked # 34, it's not even on the 'top 20' markets board....
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the two college stations run mostly music -- not a bad thing, just not talk

QBQ's a bad idea... didn't reach Orlando when it was on. 810 a better idea if it's available, or any of the unrated signals currently beaming around Orange County.

Sports isn't "alternative" ... it's mainstream ... not much to interest a liberal unless Keith Olbermann's doing his weekly shot on ESPN Radio...

I think the thread about yanking the licenses of Spanish stations is amusing... many "secure the borders" conservatives want to do the same thing they accuse us (wrongly) of wanting to do... use the government to shut down a particular type of radio... most conservative criticisms of liberals are a matter of "projection" IMHO...
 
the same thing they accuse us (wrongly) of wanting to do.

I didn't realize that you were a Democrat politician. Are you a Senator, or are you only a Representative? After all, the accusations is that Democrat politicians like Boxer, Clinton, and others want to use legislation to shut down all news/talk format radio. For you to be part of the "us" who is accused of that, you would have to be a Democrat politician. If you are not, then you're being a bit presumptuous to us the word "us".

use the government to shut down a particular type of radio

That's not what that thread is about. It's more of a "put up or shut up" position to prove a point about those who (falsely) claim that the new Fairness Doctrine is about providing a radio voice to American liberals. It presents an alternative to silencing conservatives as a means for American liberals to find a place for their philosophy on the radio. Instead of silencing conservative voices, the liberals could silence non-American voices to make room for their message. The fact that no liberals have commented on that demonstrates that the liberals aren't really looking for a means of getting their message heard, they are only looking for a means of silencing conservative voices.
 
Instead of silencing conservative voices, the liberals could silence non-American voices to make room for their message. The fact that no liberals have commented on that demonstrates that the liberals aren't really looking for a means of getting their message heard, they are only looking for a means of silencing conservative voices.

You really want to suggest that? Which "non-american" voices would you profess to silence? Is that based on ethnicity or politics? Are you suggesting "spanish" radio has no place on the dial? Polish, Italian? which is it? Which ethnic radio is "not American?" Or are those who do not goose-step right behind the VP the "non-Americans."

I am looking forward to this.
 
Which ethnic radio is "not American?"

The ethnic radio that programs in the language spoken by approximately 20,000,000 illegal aliens.
 
So you want to get rid of exactly which radio stations? Hispanic? They make up almost 14% of the population (about 40 million people) because there are how many illegal aliens?

The estimates are around 12 not 20 million (in a news/talk forum it helps to get the numbers at least close) and they are not all from Mexico and South America. And even if they were, you would penalize spanish speaking americans who come to this country legally because there are illegal aliens who may speak the same language? You need to look up the word "bigotry" and see if it applies to your line of thought.

I can't speak as to whether or not you are one, I can however suggest your thinking is. Thankfully yours is NOT the majority opinion.
 
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