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> Whats the state of pop radio today ? Did the boy bands help
> or hurt pop radio ?
>
I'm so glad the boyband era is over. I don't mind a few Teen Pop records on a station's playlist, but it was awful to listen to stations like 102.7 KIIS-FM in 99/2000 when EVERY OTHER RECORD played was by Britney, N Sync, Christina, BSB, 98 Degrees, Mandy Moore, etc.
> or hurt pop radio ?
>
I'm so glad the boyband era is over. I don't mind a few Teen Pop records on a station's playlist, but it was awful to listen to stations like 102.7 KIIS-FM in 99/2000 when EVERY OTHER RECORD played was by Britney, N Sync, Christina, BSB, 98 Degrees, Mandy Moore, etc.
> > Whats the state of pop radio today ? Did the boy bands
> help
> > or hurt pop radio ?
> >
> I'm so glad the boyband era is over. I don't mind a few Teen
> Pop records on a station's playlist, but it was awful to
> listen to stations like 102.7 KIIS-FM in 99/2000 when EVERY
> OTHER RECORD played was by Britney, N Sync, Christina, BSB,
> 98 Degrees, Mandy Moore, etc.
>
I miss the boyband era. I don't know why. It guess just put the POP into CHR/Pop.<P ID="signature">______________
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> help
> > or hurt pop radio ?
> >
> I'm so glad the boyband era is over. I don't mind a few Teen
> Pop records on a station's playlist, but it was awful to
> listen to stations like 102.7 KIIS-FM in 99/2000 when EVERY
> OTHER RECORD played was by Britney, N Sync, Christina, BSB,
> 98 Degrees, Mandy Moore, etc.
>
I miss the boyband era. I don't know why. It guess just put the POP into CHR/Pop.<P ID="signature">______________
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djwoody21
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yeah... i kinda miss that era too. at least it wasn't every other song was a song feat 50 cent.
> > > Whats the state of pop radio today ? Did the boy bands
> > help
> > > or hurt pop radio ?
> > >
> > I'm so glad the boyband era is over. I don't mind a few
> Teen
> > Pop records on a station's playlist, but it was awful to
> > listen to stations like 102.7 KIIS-FM in 99/2000 when
> EVERY
> > OTHER RECORD played was by Britney, N Sync, Christina,
> BSB,
> > 98 Degrees, Mandy Moore, etc.
> >
> I miss the boyband era. I don't know why. It guess just put
> the POP into CHR/Pop.
>
> > > Whats the state of pop radio today ? Did the boy bands
> > help
> > > or hurt pop radio ?
> > >
> > I'm so glad the boyband era is over. I don't mind a few
> Teen
> > Pop records on a station's playlist, but it was awful to
> > listen to stations like 102.7 KIIS-FM in 99/2000 when
> EVERY
> > OTHER RECORD played was by Britney, N Sync, Christina,
> BSB,
> > 98 Degrees, Mandy Moore, etc.
> >
> I miss the boyband era. I don't know why. It guess just put
> the POP into CHR/Pop.
>
Personally, I like CHR but I am not much into the 50 cents. At least Mandy Moore and BSB could be enjoyed by all... After 2000, CHR became much more rap oreaented, and so the downward trend continues. On the other hand, I'm likeing the latena crossover that is starting up again in places. <P ID="signature">______________
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> I'm so glad the boyband era is over. I don't mind a few Teen
> Pop records on a station's playlist, but it was awful to
> listen to stations like 102.7 KIIS-FM in 99/2000 when EVERY
> OTHER RECORD played was by Britney, N Sync, Christina, BSB,
> 98 Degrees, Mandy Moore, etc.
I take it you were not either a teenage girl or gay man during that time, because for us, the great pop music explosion of 1997-2001 (peaking in 1998-1999) was like heaven for us! Yes, a lot of it was cheesy manufactured bugglegum pop, but we loved every minute of it -- just like how a previous generation of pop music fans went weak in the knees at the sight of Elvis, the Beatles, and all the other gorgeous musical idols that burst onto the scene in the late '50s and early '60s.
Unfortunately, after 9/11/2001, pop music seemed to fizzle out just as quickly as Disco did two decades earlier... in 2002, a few foreign boy-bands like A1, Westlife, and BBMak still tried to release new material, but it went nowhere fast, and all the U.S. boy-bands had either disbanded or decided to "take a break to work on solo projects". And that makes it all the more amazing that the Backstreet Boys have actually managed to pull off a successful comeback, even though "Incomplete" is definitely not the strongest 'power ballad' they've ever recorded.
Now I'm just patiently waiting for some other group to have the guts to follow BSB's lead, especially since they are all getting rather old to be in a "boy-band" (the oldest member of BSB is 34!), so surely there is room for a new group featuring fresh faces and fresh voices to make its debut. Heck, why not assembled the New Kids On The Block II? Hopefully this time, though, the gay members will actually be out of the closet.
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> Pop records on a station's playlist, but it was awful to
> listen to stations like 102.7 KIIS-FM in 99/2000 when EVERY
> OTHER RECORD played was by Britney, N Sync, Christina, BSB,
> 98 Degrees, Mandy Moore, etc.
I take it you were not either a teenage girl or gay man during that time, because for us, the great pop music explosion of 1997-2001 (peaking in 1998-1999) was like heaven for us! Yes, a lot of it was cheesy manufactured bugglegum pop, but we loved every minute of it -- just like how a previous generation of pop music fans went weak in the knees at the sight of Elvis, the Beatles, and all the other gorgeous musical idols that burst onto the scene in the late '50s and early '60s.
Unfortunately, after 9/11/2001, pop music seemed to fizzle out just as quickly as Disco did two decades earlier... in 2002, a few foreign boy-bands like A1, Westlife, and BBMak still tried to release new material, but it went nowhere fast, and all the U.S. boy-bands had either disbanded or decided to "take a break to work on solo projects". And that makes it all the more amazing that the Backstreet Boys have actually managed to pull off a successful comeback, even though "Incomplete" is definitely not the strongest 'power ballad' they've ever recorded.
Now I'm just patiently waiting for some other group to have the guts to follow BSB's lead, especially since they are all getting rather old to be in a "boy-band" (the oldest member of BSB is 34!), so surely there is room for a new group featuring fresh faces and fresh voices to make its debut. Heck, why not assembled the New Kids On The Block II? Hopefully this time, though, the gay members will actually be out of the closet.
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> > I'm so glad the boyband era is over. I don't mind a few
> Teen
> > Pop records on a station's playlist, but it was awful to
> > listen to stations like 102.7 KIIS-FM in 99/2000 when
> EVERY
> > OTHER RECORD played was by Britney, N Sync, Christina,
> BSB,
> > 98 Degrees, Mandy Moore, etc.
>
> I take it you were not either a teenage girl or gay man
> during that time, because for us, the great pop music
> explosion of 1997-2001 (peaking in 1998-1999) was like
> heaven for us! Yes, a lot of it was cheesy manufactured
> bugglegum pop, but we loved every minute of it -- just like
> how a previous generation of pop music fans went weak in the
> knees at the sight of Elvis, the Beatles, and all the other
> gorgeous musical idols that burst onto the scene in the late
> '50s and early '60s.
>
I was between the ages of 10 and 14 between 1997 and 2001 (I'm 18 now) I am an 18 year old STRAIGHT male. We had no CHR at all here until June of 1998 when Milwaukee got its first CHR in years WXSS "103.7 KISS FM" WXSS had everything. Current pop, rock, hip hop, dance older 90s rock, pop, hip hop and dance, and 80s new wave, pop, rock and dance. They had Mitch Craig as the voice guy and KIIS's 80s jingle package. I loved hearing all my favorite Hot AC and rock songs mixed in with the hip hop and the pop stuff. 5 months later, Chicago got its first CHR in years WCBR/WBRO (Later WKIE/WKIF/WDEK) "92 KISS FM" which was a very rock and pop friendly CHR. Those were just the glory days of the current CHR era. If it wasn't for all these boybands and pop artists of the late 90s, a lot of the CHR stations that are around today wouldn't be around. It sparked the re birth of CHR.
Whenever I listen to my old tapes of various CHR stations from 1998-1999-2000-2001, I feel a very strong longing for those days.
Aircheck Tape Logs:
KSLZ 7-26-99:
TLC - Unpretty
Fastball - Out Of My Head
Britney Spears - Baby One More Time
Whitney Houston - Its Not Alright But Its Ok
Edwin McCain - I Could Not Ask For More
702 - Where My Girls At
Ricky Martin - La Copa
Brandy - Almost Doesn't Count
Tone Loc - Funky Cold Medina
98 Degrees - I Do
Christina Aguilera - Genie In A Bottle
Billy Crawford - Mary Lopez
Backstreet Boys - All I Have To Give
Big Pun - Still Not A Playa
Enrique Iglasias - Bailamos
Smash Mouth - All Star
Destiny's Child - Bills Bills Bills
Citizen King - Better Days
Mase - Feels So Good
Jennifer Lopez - If You Had My Love
Vengaboys - Boom Boom Boom Boom
WXSS 10-4-98:
Edwin McCain - I'll Be
Usher - My Way
K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
Natalie Imbruglia - Torn
INOJ - Time After Time
Spin Doctors - Two Princes
98 Degrees - Because Of You
Green Day - When I Come Around
Next - Too Close
Hootie & The Blowfish - (Whatever their new song was at that time)
TLC - Baby Baby Baby
WKSC (Launch of CHR format from 1-12-01)
2 Unlimited - Get Ready For This
Destiny's Child - Independant Women
Vertical Horizon - Everything You Want
Dream - He Loves U Not
Creed - Higher
Shaggy - It Wasn't Me
Madonna - Music
3 Doors Down - Kryptonite
Brandy - The Boy Is Mine
SoulDecsion - Faded
Matchbox 20 - If You're Gone
Pink - Most Girls
Ricky Martin - Nobody Wants To Be Lonely
Sugar Ray - Fly
*NSYNC - This I Promise You
Santana - Smooth
Toni Braxton - He Wasn't Man Enough
Mya - Case Of The Ex
Jessica Simpson - I Think I'm In Love
Vertical Horizon - You're A God
BBMak - Back Here
Destiny's Child - Jumpin Jumpin
Mikaila - So In Love With Two
Creed - With Arms Wide Open
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> Teen
> > Pop records on a station's playlist, but it was awful to
> > listen to stations like 102.7 KIIS-FM in 99/2000 when
> EVERY
> > OTHER RECORD played was by Britney, N Sync, Christina,
> BSB,
> > 98 Degrees, Mandy Moore, etc.
>
> I take it you were not either a teenage girl or gay man
> during that time, because for us, the great pop music
> explosion of 1997-2001 (peaking in 1998-1999) was like
> heaven for us! Yes, a lot of it was cheesy manufactured
> bugglegum pop, but we loved every minute of it -- just like
> how a previous generation of pop music fans went weak in the
> knees at the sight of Elvis, the Beatles, and all the other
> gorgeous musical idols that burst onto the scene in the late
> '50s and early '60s.
>
I was between the ages of 10 and 14 between 1997 and 2001 (I'm 18 now) I am an 18 year old STRAIGHT male. We had no CHR at all here until June of 1998 when Milwaukee got its first CHR in years WXSS "103.7 KISS FM" WXSS had everything. Current pop, rock, hip hop, dance older 90s rock, pop, hip hop and dance, and 80s new wave, pop, rock and dance. They had Mitch Craig as the voice guy and KIIS's 80s jingle package. I loved hearing all my favorite Hot AC and rock songs mixed in with the hip hop and the pop stuff. 5 months later, Chicago got its first CHR in years WCBR/WBRO (Later WKIE/WKIF/WDEK) "92 KISS FM" which was a very rock and pop friendly CHR. Those were just the glory days of the current CHR era. If it wasn't for all these boybands and pop artists of the late 90s, a lot of the CHR stations that are around today wouldn't be around. It sparked the re birth of CHR.
Whenever I listen to my old tapes of various CHR stations from 1998-1999-2000-2001, I feel a very strong longing for those days.
Aircheck Tape Logs:
KSLZ 7-26-99:
TLC - Unpretty
Fastball - Out Of My Head
Britney Spears - Baby One More Time
Whitney Houston - Its Not Alright But Its Ok
Edwin McCain - I Could Not Ask For More
702 - Where My Girls At
Ricky Martin - La Copa
Brandy - Almost Doesn't Count
Tone Loc - Funky Cold Medina
98 Degrees - I Do
Christina Aguilera - Genie In A Bottle
Billy Crawford - Mary Lopez
Backstreet Boys - All I Have To Give
Big Pun - Still Not A Playa
Enrique Iglasias - Bailamos
Smash Mouth - All Star
Destiny's Child - Bills Bills Bills
Citizen King - Better Days
Mase - Feels So Good
Jennifer Lopez - If You Had My Love
Vengaboys - Boom Boom Boom Boom
WXSS 10-4-98:
Edwin McCain - I'll Be
Usher - My Way
K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
Natalie Imbruglia - Torn
INOJ - Time After Time
Spin Doctors - Two Princes
98 Degrees - Because Of You
Green Day - When I Come Around
Next - Too Close
Hootie & The Blowfish - (Whatever their new song was at that time)
TLC - Baby Baby Baby
WKSC (Launch of CHR format from 1-12-01)
2 Unlimited - Get Ready For This
Destiny's Child - Independant Women
Vertical Horizon - Everything You Want
Dream - He Loves U Not
Creed - Higher
Shaggy - It Wasn't Me
Madonna - Music
3 Doors Down - Kryptonite
Brandy - The Boy Is Mine
SoulDecsion - Faded
Matchbox 20 - If You're Gone
Pink - Most Girls
Ricky Martin - Nobody Wants To Be Lonely
Sugar Ray - Fly
*NSYNC - This I Promise You
Santana - Smooth
Toni Braxton - He Wasn't Man Enough
Mya - Case Of The Ex
Jessica Simpson - I Think I'm In Love
Vertical Horizon - You're A God
BBMak - Back Here
Destiny's Child - Jumpin Jumpin
Mikaila - So In Love With Two
Creed - With Arms Wide Open
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> Those were just the glory days of the current
> CHR era. If it wasn't for all these boybands and pop artists
> of the late 90s, a lot of the CHR stations that are around
> today wouldn't be around. It sparked the re birth of CHR.
>
> Whenever I listen to my old tapes of various CHR stations
> from 1998-1999-2000-2001, I feel a very strong longing for
> those days.
Another unique thing about that era was the unusually large amount of crossover between CHR/Pop, Hot AC, AC, and even Country. When songs like Faith Hill's "This Kiss" and Lonestar's "Amazed" came upon the scene and became extremely successful in all four of those formats, it became the first time in years that teenagers in L.A. and adults in Oklahoma City were listening to the same music on the radio. It was as if the fragmentation which had affected popular music since the late '80s was finally starting to reverse itself, so that contemporary pop music could actually have "mass appeal".
But when pop music essentially died after 2001, it affected a lot of formats, not just CHR/Pop. AC stations were probably the worst off -- they had gotten used to playing new songs and songs in the current Top 40 all the time, but that source of "AC-friendly" music had suddenly dried up, and AC stations were left with nothing remotely new to play except the same burned-out recurrents like "I Hope You Dance" and "I Knew I Loved You". If it wasn't for Norah Jones and John Mayer, AC might have given up on playing current music entirely, and turned into "AC Gold", because that's what 90% of the playlist was around 2002-2003. Many AC stations still seem quite reluctant to add new material, and many have avoided playing music which I thought would be definite AC hits, like Gavin DeGraw, Keane, and James Blunt.
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> CHR era. If it wasn't for all these boybands and pop artists
> of the late 90s, a lot of the CHR stations that are around
> today wouldn't be around. It sparked the re birth of CHR.
>
> Whenever I listen to my old tapes of various CHR stations
> from 1998-1999-2000-2001, I feel a very strong longing for
> those days.
Another unique thing about that era was the unusually large amount of crossover between CHR/Pop, Hot AC, AC, and even Country. When songs like Faith Hill's "This Kiss" and Lonestar's "Amazed" came upon the scene and became extremely successful in all four of those formats, it became the first time in years that teenagers in L.A. and adults in Oklahoma City were listening to the same music on the radio. It was as if the fragmentation which had affected popular music since the late '80s was finally starting to reverse itself, so that contemporary pop music could actually have "mass appeal".
But when pop music essentially died after 2001, it affected a lot of formats, not just CHR/Pop. AC stations were probably the worst off -- they had gotten used to playing new songs and songs in the current Top 40 all the time, but that source of "AC-friendly" music had suddenly dried up, and AC stations were left with nothing remotely new to play except the same burned-out recurrents like "I Hope You Dance" and "I Knew I Loved You". If it wasn't for Norah Jones and John Mayer, AC might have given up on playing current music entirely, and turned into "AC Gold", because that's what 90% of the playlist was around 2002-2003. Many AC stations still seem quite reluctant to add new material, and many have avoided playing music which I thought would be definite AC hits, like Gavin DeGraw, Keane, and James Blunt.
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> > Those were just the glory days of the current
> > CHR era. If it wasn't for all these boybands and pop
> artists
> > of the late 90s, a lot of the CHR stations that are around
>
> > today wouldn't be around. It sparked the re birth of CHR.
> >
> > Whenever I listen to my old tapes of various CHR stations
> > from 1998-1999-2000-2001, I feel a very strong longing for
>
> > those days.
>
> Another unique thing about that era was the unusually large
> amount of crossover between CHR/Pop, Hot AC, AC, and even
> Country.
I don't think it was unique at all. In fact, in the mid 90s moreso then in the late 90s is when Hot ACs and CHR/Pop stations shared the most titles.
> But when pop music essentially died after 2001,
Give me a break, it never died - some Pop trends slowed down, others gained more MAINSTREAM ground.
AC stations are run by some great minds, but also by a lot of idiots, IMO. As someone who follows charts from all over the world I know that there are plenty of quality AC material that a lot of AC stations in the States are ignoring.
As for your comment about Oklahoma, I'd hardly call it true. While the state of Oklahoma is one of the most conservative in the country (and conservative sounding Country stations have thrived for years), its CHRs are NOT. In fact, 106-9 K-Hits Tulsa, and KJ 103 Oklahoma City relied a lot LESS on Teen Pop while 102.7 KIIS-FM Los Angeles leaned too much in that direction. Oklahoma City also got its first Rhythmic CHR around that time, which performed extremely well, and beat out heritage KJ 103.
Even right now as we speak, both OKC and Tulsa have a CHR/Pop and a CHR/Rhythmic station, just like San Diego, Chicago, or Boston. So there really is no big difference. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by CHRles on 10/05/05 02:49 PM.</FONT></P>
> > CHR era. If it wasn't for all these boybands and pop
> artists
> > of the late 90s, a lot of the CHR stations that are around
>
> > today wouldn't be around. It sparked the re birth of CHR.
> >
> > Whenever I listen to my old tapes of various CHR stations
> > from 1998-1999-2000-2001, I feel a very strong longing for
>
> > those days.
>
> Another unique thing about that era was the unusually large
> amount of crossover between CHR/Pop, Hot AC, AC, and even
> Country.
I don't think it was unique at all. In fact, in the mid 90s moreso then in the late 90s is when Hot ACs and CHR/Pop stations shared the most titles.
> But when pop music essentially died after 2001,
Give me a break, it never died - some Pop trends slowed down, others gained more MAINSTREAM ground.
AC stations are run by some great minds, but also by a lot of idiots, IMO. As someone who follows charts from all over the world I know that there are plenty of quality AC material that a lot of AC stations in the States are ignoring.
As for your comment about Oklahoma, I'd hardly call it true. While the state of Oklahoma is one of the most conservative in the country (and conservative sounding Country stations have thrived for years), its CHRs are NOT. In fact, 106-9 K-Hits Tulsa, and KJ 103 Oklahoma City relied a lot LESS on Teen Pop while 102.7 KIIS-FM Los Angeles leaned too much in that direction. Oklahoma City also got its first Rhythmic CHR around that time, which performed extremely well, and beat out heritage KJ 103.
Even right now as we speak, both OKC and Tulsa have a CHR/Pop and a CHR/Rhythmic station, just like San Diego, Chicago, or Boston. So there really is no big difference. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by CHRles on 10/05/05 02:49 PM.</FONT></P>
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