When I did a lot of hiking with the scouts I carried one of the small ICOM/Yaesu/Kenwood HT's with me. After about a mile away from the road, cell phone service went to h*** where I am. However, since I had my license, there was never anywhere I went with the scouts that I couldn't hit a mountaintop repeater. Came in useful when we were going to be ending up coming back a lot later than we thought. Getting liscened is not that difficult nowadays, so I would recommend that at least one member of the troop gets licensed.